Falling in love..

[Noah Hope]

Selected quotes from Geek Troll No Hope:
Or the best one was his review where he negged the girl because she opened and closed her eyes!
 
watching too much Zizek can drive you crazy

Unfortunately you are not a famous philosopher. Your humour verges on fantasy fixation.  But carry on entertaining. 

Ok!   

"A finite game is played for the purpose of winning,  an infinite game for the purpose of continuing the play. " (Carse, p. 3)

[Marmalade]

Oh dear I think I've maybe given you too much encouragement . . .

[adindas]

There are reasonable number of people in western countries married to ex WGs, prossies. Some are happily married, some are due to other motives.

I do not know whether this is relevant or not. But I have read the stories where Americans, British, and other western countries married with ex WGs, prossies from Thailand’s and other south East Asian developing countries.

Young ex WGs, prossies girls coming from poor background are attracted marrying the guys same age with her father due the attractiveness of living, working and then settled in the western countries.  This stories is not new.

Similarly to beach boys (e.g. cowboys, male prostitutes) in Caribbean, south East Asia marrying an old widow similar age with his mum for the same motive.

[Noah Hope]

Oh dear I think I've maybe given you too much encouragement . . .

Well it is appreciated.
The main thing is my posts have made an impression.  Positive or negative,  the polarity doesn't really matter.

[Marmalade]

Well it is appreciated.
The main thing is my posts have made an impression.  Positive or negative,  the polarity doesn't really matter.

And that is different from trolling, how?

[Noah Hope]

And that is different from trolling, how?

Trolling is done just to bait people. My posts, which you said at first were entertaining, but now apparently feel trolled by, put into virtual ink viewpoints which I'm working out, and want to put out for other members of UKP to think about as well. Isn't that the point of a forum? Some people don't like e. g. geeks and are going to react negatively to geeky posts. There's not much I can do about that. It's just how things are.  That's not my purpose behind any post, but like I posted it shows that it's had some  effect on people who've read it.

[star69]

Basically wg create a persona and that is all you get to know. wg look down on their profession and generally never tell their family what they do so the last thing they want is punter snooping on them.

I met another wg she was of good family and after she stopped, she told me few things 1. wg feels like a machine, there is never any feeling 2. wg almost never have orgasm its all pretend. 3. most wg pussy bleeds because pussy was not designed for getting fucked 10 times a day on super viagra.

 That's a new one, the third point. Does the pussy really bleed like you said , if yes not good news for a punter who sees a busy prossie.

[Marmalade]

Trolling is done just to bait people. My posts, which you said at first were entertaining, but now apparently feel trolled by, put into virtual ink viewpoints which I'm working out, and want to put out for other members of UKP to think about as well. Isn't that the point of a forum? Some people don't like e. g. geeks and are going to react negatively to geeky posts. There's not much I can do about that. It's just how things are.  That's not my purpose behind any post, but like I posted it shows that it's had some  effect on people who've read it.

Trolls can be entertaining. Baiting can be infinite. The purpose of the forum is to help punters find good value in paid sex. Have you had any response to your points except from myself?

[smiths]

That's a new one, the third point. Does the pussy really bleed like you said , if yes not good news for a punter who sees a busy prossie.

Well I have punted with some WGs at 6-8 hour parties where they had fucked up to 40-50 punters and I didn't see any bleeding pussies and some punters really pummelled them.

[Marmalade]

That's a new one, the third point. Does the pussy really bleed like you said , if yes not good news for a punter who sees a busy prossie.

Out of tens of thousands of prossies someone is making a generalisation based on what one wee 'good-fimily' prostitute told him??

Yeah they bleed -- once a month like all women except for the granny-milfs. Maybe she's never heard of lube. Maybe she just disliked the job so much she didn't take care. Or so pissed off it casued an imbalance leading to irregular menstrual bleeding. Maybe her cat or a fingernail scratched it. Maybe she had cancer. Anything but blame herself rather than the 'disgusting ten punters' whose money she accepted.

Science is your friend. A prossie is your employee.

[Simplyred]

Falling in love (or something similar) happens--both ways.  It can get fucking choppy when you repeat book, overnight whatever especially with a foreign girl who may be perfectly happy blurring the lines over into saying to you they love you.  This has happened to me and it's acutely worse when you engage in a lot of social media. 

[noutathome]

Been on here for ages but this is the first time I can make a meaningful contribution!

That SA site!  Met a girl a few months ago and the head over heels feeling is biting me (I am 46).  She's attractive and clever and has used SA to fund her studying and is quite open in telling me what she's been up to but with calls/texts/whatsapp and every date we are having I seem to be getting deeper.  She's cooked for me, is never clock watching and has been great company and we share common interests and I have known her real identity from day one.  I am even helping her network to find a job.

I know she has one long term 'suitor' which I am fine with as she needs rent covered (and he does that) and I sort of help out a bit with the rest BUT is she addicted to other men/sex or is it just money for the bills she needs and can I trust her bearing in mind everything that has been said on this thread?!  She tells me that she wrestles with this and seems to block it out by drinking quite a bit and then talking loads before the inevitable 'arrangement' needs to happen!  Not too sure how many repeats she has as she does not really go out of her way to be engaging!

[Noah Hope]

Trolls can be entertaining. Baiting can be infinite. The purpose of the forum is to help punters find good value in paid sex. Have you had any response to your points except from myself?

I've had a look back at my previous posts,  the responses were varied:

fairfield positive response
virtual waster & Mysterion negative response
RedKettle  :neutral response

[welshman]

In a previous post I mentioned the introduction of the GFE has made sex with WGs much more intimate.  I will give an example of this. There was a lady I saw who worked with an agency called Judys Mature Escorts. The lady went out of her way to make the sex feel intimate and like the sex you have with a partner. She did not offer a massage at the beginning which is often standard with WGs.  She would cuddle up and launch straight into full on snogging which resembles what you would do with a partner.  Pre GFE this would have been unthinkable.

[mikexxlong]

It has been said many times on this forum just go punting for sexual gratification,
do not go looking for a relationship, it will end badly. Punting is not dating, so look elsewhere

No matter how intimate, sensual or comforting a pro$$ie may act towards you do not take it as a sign of affection;
she has been paid to be of service and wants more of your money i.e. repeat custom etc.

If in the highly unlikely situation a pro$$ie has fallen for you I am sure she will let you know, if she chooses to do so
(But have your wits about you, apply common sense,
listen to your gut feeling, not your bell end. To figure out whether she is being genuine or there is an ulterior motive etc.)

Then it’s up to you whether to pursue a relationship with her or not .but remember there is
Potentially a shit load of baggage and various issues you might have to deal with

[oring123]

Ask on uke?

[Tony_Red]

I've met 2-3 genuinely nice ladies...nice as in I wouldn't mind dating that type of personality based on meeting them 1-2 times, but the majority I could never consider even dating let alone fall in love with. Messy, racist, shallow, very self-conscious and lieing non stop etc. and this includes 'darlings' too.  As someone looking for a top gfe, i've noticed that I click far better with the genuinely nice girls, of which there are not many that I have met. Just my 2 cents.

[Horizontal pleasures]

Save it for your OH

[punternw]

I've fallen in love with a WG. She has no idea how I feel, she would be horrified if she knew and would never see me again. As a result I've kept it secret. She is fantastic at her job, she makes you feel like you're the only person that matters, she's kind, passionate and caring. It's been very difficult, but I recently made the decision not to see her again.

[star69]

 Remember seeing a movie called Lust Caution. A chinese movie by a well known director the one who directed Brokeback mountain. The girl is a spy who engages in a sexual relationship with an enemy to garner secrets. They have steamy sex and in the end she falls for him even though he is her number 1 enemy and saves him from assasinated. Thus, the title.

 Not saying that prossies are bound to be like this but just iluustrates what can happen  if you have a close, lustful relationship. A few of us must have seen the movie, it has got the most erotic scenes as well.

[stevedave]

Remember seeing a movie called Lust Caution. A chinese movie by a well known director the one who directed Brokeback mountain. The girl is a spy who engages in a sexual relationship with an enemy to garner secrets. They have steamy sex and in the end she falls for him even though he is her number 1 enemy and saves him from assasinated. Thus, the title.

 Not saying that prossies are bound to be like this but just iluustrates what can happen  if you have a close, lustful relationship. A few of us must have seen the movie, it has got the most erotic scenes as well.

I may have read this wrong, but are you suggesting that if a WG has hot, intimate sex with you, the chances of her falling in love with you increase?? No wonder I've got girls I've punted calling me up every day to see me again 

What about the 20 guys she saw before me? Or the 20 guys after me? I hope she gets free texts and unlimited minutes...

Oh, and the director is Ang Lee.

[star69]

I may have read this wrong, but are you suggesting that if a WG has hot, intimate sex with you, the chances of her falling in love with you increase?? No wonder I've got girls I've punted calling me up every day to see me again 

What about the 20 guys she saw before me? Or the 20 guys after me? I hope she gets free texts and unlimited minutes...

Oh, and the director is Ang Lee.

 Am not suggesting anything. I am just emphasing the power of lust, which is what the movie is about. Love CAN happen if the minds and situation is right. With the UK punting scenario, where the money is what the WG all cares about, this is highly unlikely.

[Marmalade]

Am not suggesting anything. I am just emphasing the power of lust, which is what the movie is about. Love CAN happen if the minds and situation is right. With the UK punting scenario, where the money is what the WG all cares about, this is highly unlikely.

You have a slight point maybe if it was some newbie Pinay hooker who feels she's falling in love with some hygienic bastard from the West, probably the first man that hasn't expected her to buy her own yams for lunch. Check out Vivago's thread on the International section.

My experience has been the opposite. If I've dated them, and attempted to punt them first, the punt has always been so totally shit as to be laughable. I refused to go out with one woman (living abroad) on the basis that she was a crap shag and told her as much. Disaster punt. She begged me for three weeks, refusing any money or gifts in kind. After that she was as hot in the sack as promised. Another one, we started chatting within a few minutes and started laughing.The connection was brilliant and the idea of pretending to like each other for a paid sex encounter too ridiculous to contemplate. Abandoned the punt but met her later for a drink. (note: both incidents at HER suggestion/obvious insistence -- if it comes from the man she will just think he's a turd wanting free sex.)

I think the psychology is pretty obvious. Either she manages to fake a natural desire for sex and gets carried away passionately with a punter -- in which case she is disgusted -- or she allows her distaste at having a paid encounter with him show -- in which case it lacks passion.

The only other possibility is sex knowing that she is a prossie but having no interest in a paid encounter with her. Has happened a couple of times and no names would ever be revealed and the sex was great. But I should point out I am pulling unusual incidents out of hundreds (probably not quite in four figures but upper hundreds). I know one other punter who has a similar attitude and clocks up the occasional relationship but it is rarer than hamburger in a vegan cafe.

[Marmalade]

ps if you are seeking love, and looking for it by seeing prostitutes, your head is pointing in the wrong direction.

[oring123]

£ and wg job mean cant happen as they cant allow it simple

[Brazilian Martian]

ps if you are seeking love, and looking for it by seeing prostitutes, your head is pointing in the wrong direction.

Some guys would be better off joining eharmony or pof instead of punting some men think that they have a special relationship with prossies. 

[Marmalade]

Some guys would be better off joining eharmony or pof instead of punting some men think that they have a special relationship with prossies. 

Absolutely. Fucking dummies. I mean imagine you are a prostitute and a guy seems mega interested in you. He is there seeing you in your role as a prostitute. Surely the natural conclusion would be, "well if he is interested in me playing this role he sure as hell couldn't be interested me in real life." To me. it's not exactly rocket science. 

[Simplyred]

I think there are a range of situations, it's not monolithic. Go on SAAFE and read the threads of the prossies looking for help because they've fallen for a client.  Happens on occasion.

I totally agree that it's foolish to go looking for love with a service provider, that's NUTS.  But I know one prossie who told me point blank she's interviewing for a husband: fuck first, then get to know and get paid doing it.  Not saying it's especially wise--she will invariably find herself a cheater--but there ya go.  Different cultures/countries have very different value systems.

[star69]

ps if you are seeking love, and looking for it by seeing prostitutes, your head is pointing in the wrong direction.

 No one is looking to fall in love with a prossie, certainly not me . The whole point is it CAN happen whether it is one - sided or not. I have no intention of falling for one myself. And certainly I have no doubt that prossies have the same feeling. But as mentioned above, it is not impossible what with the GFE services provided and if the girl happens to be attractive. Is that clear now ?

[Marmalade]

No one is looking to fall in love with a prossie, certainly not me . The whole point is it CAN happen whether it is one - sided or not. I have no intention of falling for one myself. And certainly I have no doubt that prossies have the same feeling. But as mentioned above, it is not impossible what with the GFE services provided and if the girl happens to be attractive. Is that clear now ?

Nope. You are full of shit. Even if you mean well. GFE services are the least likely to end up as 'relationship.' You'd be safer locked up.

[Tony_Red]

No, no, no FFS! You ain't gonna get no love from a WG. How old are you?

I think you are confusing lust with love. Love is listening to her moaning, to be there for her when she's got the flu and coughing and sneezing all over you. Love is not telling her off when she fucks up dinner. Love is letting her choose what to watch on telly. Love is you both treating each other's families as your own.

Physical attraction is just a very small part of it. When they are 50, their tits are gonna be near there knees and they are going to be as dry as a dessert and as loose as a fucking wizard's sleeve.

[howrude]

I wouldn't fall in love with a prostitute in the same way that I wouldn't fall in love with a porn actress, stripper, nude model or whatever. Like with those things, it's the sex industry and it's the mere physical thrill from a desirable, sexy woman is what I seek.

[star69]

No, no, no FFS! You ain't gonna get no love from a WG. How old are you?

I think you are confusing lust with love. Love is listening to her moaning, to be there for her when she's got the flu and coughing and sneezing all over you. Love is not telling her off when she fucks up dinner. Love is letting her choose what to watch on telly. Love is you both treating each other's families as your own.

 I know the difference between love and lust. And I repeat I am not looking to fall in love with a wg, just wanted get a general feeling about this and whether anyone had fallen for one.

 Your definition of love is very romantic though.   

[punternw]

I never meant to fall for the one I did. I've been punting for years before this and never once developed feelings for any of them. I just couldn't help it this time. Luckily for me she has moved out of the area (Manchester) and has since retired. It forced me to get on with my life and helped me move on. I will never make the same mistake again.

[E.L. Wisty]

Never happened with me.

[ickydicky]

look the set up is simple. you pay the hoor money to have her suck your cock and to fuck her. then you go on your way. in comes another punter who pays the hoor to suck his cock and fuck him. and so it goes on. love does not come into it. its a business transaction on both sides.  end of. simples

[Brazilian Martian]

look the set up is simple. you pay the hoor money to have her suck your cock and to fuck her. then you go on your way. in comes another punter who pays the hoor to suck his cock and fuck him. and so it goes on. love does not come into it. its a business transaction on both sides.  end of. simples

Spot on the trouble is the guys that probably fall for working girls have no social life or really bad social skills ie can't chat interact with regular women. So they latch on to the only affection they get and it seems real to them even though they are paying for it. 

[Nagilum]

Sex is an emotional thing. It's natural that some people will fall in love with the girl, while its frown upon in the punting community, it's not abnormal.  Don't forget it happens the other way round too, many girls end up dating a client. 

[MilesPrower]

Imagine falling in love with a women you know has been podged thousands of times by thousands of cocks....

[AnthG]

Spot on the trouble is the guys that probably fall for working girls have no social life or really bad social skills ie can't chat interact with regular women. So they latch on to the only affection they get and it seems real to them even though they are paying for it. 

But if a guy started punting and he suddenly 'fell for' the very first girl he ever booked. Then yeah there is something wrong here.

But say for example if a guy had been punting for many years. Had around 50 bookings in those many years and met one sole girl in that time that knocked him for six. I would think he would have liked that same girl no matter what job she did and no matter how or where he met her.

[hullad]

I view it as a business relationship nothing more, I pay money for some sex time with no strings. I do see one lady quite regular and we have a very good working relationship she knows who I am and vice versa. We are both in no doubt of the status of provider and customer, we do have a laugh and its very friendly.

I know love and its not that

[Brazilian Martian]

But if a guy started punting and he suddenly 'fell for' the very first girl he ever booked. Then yeah there is something wrong here.

But say for example if a guy had been punting for many years. Had around 50 bookings in those many years and met one sole girl in that time that knocked him for six. I would think he would have liked that same girl no matter what job she did and no matter how or where he met her.

You have a good point there but surely i would expect him to see sense and realise she's a prossie that it could be a case of EAS. Some people confuse lust with love

[Rifte]

A prossie I fucked in Singapore uses her services and style to try and entrap men into a relationship with them.

She was Cambodian, and had been married twice already to a couple of Australian business men. One had died during their marriage!

She contacted me on my punting phone out of the blue a few weeks ago to tell me that if I wanted to 'have marriage with her' ( I didnt!), I couldnt because she had found an American guy now.

Bitch was crazy......but fuck me, she was hot as hell, and she was probably one of the best fucks I have ever had.

[Brazilian Martian]

A prossie I fucked in Singapore uses her services and style to try and entrap men into a relationship with them.

She was Cambodian, and had been married twice already to a couple of Australian business men. One had died during their marriage!

She contacted me on my punting phone out of the blue a few weeks ago to tell me that if I wanted to 'have marriage with her' ( I didnt!), I couldnt because she had found an American guy now.

Bitch was crazy......but fuck me, she was hot as hell, and she was probably one of the best fucks I have ever had.

At least you had the sense to know that she was more trouble than worth, guys that get into those situations I have no sympathy for them at all. They deserve to get bled dry getting involved with thai or asian prossies for marriage   

[Nagilum]

At least you had the sense to know that she was more trouble than worth, guys that get into those situations I have no sympathy for them at all. They deserve to get bled dry getting involved with thai or asian prossies for marriage   

It's hilarious when you see them out and about in the UK. Usually a guy in his late 50s or 60s with a non smiling, stiff lipped Thai girl. 

It gets worse because traditionally, the girls want you to support their whole family back home.

[Brazilian Martian]

It's hilarious when you see them out and about in the UK. Usually a guy in his late 50s or 60s with a non smiling, stiff lipped Thai girl. 

It gets worse because traditionally, the girls want you to support their whole family back home.

Spot on when I last got a thai massage the massause was very talkative telling me she has recently divorced her husband in the uk as the age difference was too much and he's boring all he seems to do is sit in the pub with his mates.

She also said she needs excitement in her life blah blah and how she wants nice things like gucci hand bags and la senza underwear. Funny how she got rid of him after she got her stay in the uk 

She is from the philipines and met her mug of a ex when he was over there on holiday twelve years ago.

[jaszyj87]

I recon I could fall in love with a WG/Pornstar as they are people to but I dont think I could with a girl ive seen in a professional capacity.

[MrMatrix]

But if a guy started punting and he suddenly 'fell for' the very first girl he ever booked. Then yeah there is something wrong here.

But say for example if a guy had been punting for many years. Had around 50 bookings in those many years and met one sole girl in that time that knocked him for six. I would think he would have liked that same girl no matter what job she did and no matter how or where he met her.

You describe the scenario that I was in a couple of years ago. She would also talk about meeting someone as well. I do wonder if I was seduced by a smooth talking WG knowing I was a bit vulnerable. Never the less had I met this same person in civvy street I would have still fallen for her. Even knowing she was a WG it would have made no difference to me she was really quite some thing. She said who would want to end up with her knowing that she was a WG. Told her it wasn't a problem to me. In the end just got too expensive and stopped seeing her - but I often do think about her. I know it probably makes me a right silly sod, but I couldn't help myself. What I would say is it will never happen again. Would rather have stayed in love with the OH really, but that's another story

[Brazilian Martian]

I recon I could fall in love with a WG/Pornstar as they are people to but I dont think I could with a girl ive seen in a professional capacity.

I could not the thought of knowing that 60 to 100 other guys have fucked my misses and the potential mother of my children would put me off taking it serious

[Rifte]

This is the girl with her second husband. Apparently he is alive still.

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