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Offline purple_t

I'm not going to pretend whoring is a glamorous career, it can't be much fun shagging older guys you don't fancy, and of course there are other negatives such as the stigma associated with it (thanks feminism), crazy punters, etc.

That said, the hourly rate is very good, and the girls effectively can be their own boss (assuming Sergei isn't). So are you surprised more girls don't work as prossies (even if only for a few short years)? Whenever I do an AW search, I'm always quite surprised by the lack of girls on there, especially hot younger girls who could make a killing. Obviously they do exist, I always just expect there to be more than there actually is...

Offline Dani

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Most girls in their late teens don't even think about this work. I know I didn't nor did any of my friends.  My daughter and her friends would rather be broke than do this work
It takes someone with an open mind and strong personality to even think of doing this as a job. The stigma attached and the reaction of others puts many off
I know when I told everyone I lost a lot of 'friends' but my attitude was a real friend wouldn't judge me and my real ones didn't.  Not many young people are willing to go through that or could stand the looks and whispers from other people. If they kept it secret they would then have to lie to everyone they loved or cared about and that can cause huge emotional issues after a while
Not many women could imaging having sex with every man she saw in a bar. (I always say to ladies who express an interest, to walk into any pub and imagine having sex with every man in there regardless of age, size and looks).  Most can't do it and a lot feel sick at the thought.  Most women see sex in a different way to a prossie as they need an emotional connection or physical attraction.
I see sex in the same way I see a hobby. It's something people do when they fancy it. Just like going for a massage or a pizza so it's easy for me to sell it.  Most women can't think that way which is why not many do this work. 

The best way to answer this I guess is to ask you, the OP to walk into a bingo hall and imagine having sex with every woman in there.  The thought would probably make you feel quite unwell as you just couldn't imagine f**king an 80 yr old overweight hairy wrinkly women but being a prossie would mean you would do so happily as its part of the job. I doubt you could do it just like the majority of women couldn't do it

Offline peter purves

I'm not going to pretend whoring is a glamorous career, it can't be much fun shagging older guys you don't fancy, and of course there are other negatives such as the stigma associated with it (thanks feminism), crazy punters, etc.

That said, the hourly rate is very good, and the girls effectively can be their own boss (assuming Sergei isn't). So are you surprised more girls don't work as prossies (even if only for a few short years)? Whenever I do an AW search, I'm always quite surprised by the lack of girls on there, especially hot younger girls who could make a killing. Obviously they do exist, I always just expect there to be more than there actually is...

Like a lot off work, I am not sure the 'returns' (and not just financial) is enough to attract, possibly financially in the short term may be a different matter.

I am interested in your comments above though.

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pking_paul

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I see sex in the same way I see a hobby. It's something people do when they fancy it. Just like going for a massage or a pizza so it's easy for me to sell it.  Most women can't think that way which is why not many do this work. 


So at what age did you start thinking this way?

Offline Bangers and Gash

I can't think of any other job that would give a woman more pleasure than having sex with me.  :kiss:

Noah Hope

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Most girls in their late teens don't even think about this work. I know I didn't nor did any of my friends.  My daughter and her friends would rather be broke than do this work
It takes someone with an open mind and strong personality to even think of doing this as a job. The stigma attached and the reaction of others puts many off
I know when I told everyone I lost a lot of 'friends' but my attitude was a real friend wouldn't judge me and my real ones didn't.  Not many young people are willing to go through that or could stand the looks and whispers from other people. If they kept it secret they would then have to lie to everyone they loved or cared about and that can cause huge emotional issues after a while
Not many women could imaging having sex with every man she saw in a bar. (I always say to ladies who express an interest, to walk into any pub and imagine having sex with every man in there regardless of age, size and looks).  Most can't do it and a lot feel sick at the thought.  Most women see sex in a different way to a prossie as they need an emotional connection or physical attraction.
I see sex in the same way I see a hobby. It's something people do when they fancy it. Just like going for a massage or a pizza so it's easy for me to sell it.  Most women can't think that way which is why not many do this work. 

The best way to answer this I guess is to ask you, the OP to walk into a bingo hall and imagine having sex with every woman in there.  The thought would probably make you feel quite unwell as you just couldn't imagine f**king an 80 yr old overweight hairy wrinkly women but being a prossie would mean you would do so happily as its part of the job. I doubt you could do it just like the majority of women couldn't do it

Well Mecca Bingo has a lot of hot young asian women  going there for a girl's night out. So based on that, I could personally have sex with a large %age of a bingo halls customers without any queasyness at all. It would take a while though ( Some bingo halls have 1000 people in there. ) I don't know if the patrons of Mecca Bingo are representative though. It's owned by the Rank group who also own Grosvenor Casinos.

Offline Malvolio

As a London punter, I have found no shortage of girls.  Just searched AW for female escorts available today and found 943 profiles.  If you restrict that to 25 and under there are 533 profiles.

Offline purple_t

As a London punter, I have found no shortage of girls.  Just searched AW for female escorts available today and found 943 profiles.  If you restrict that to 25 and under there are 533 profiles.

In a city of nearly 9 million people, that still seems quite low to me! And that's London, other areas of the UK are not so full of WGs.

Btw thank you Dani for your detailed reply. I think you're right, most girls just wouldn't be able to deal with the reality of the job and all that it entails.

Offline stevedave


Btw thank you Dani for your detailed reply. I think you're right, most girls just wouldn't be able to deal with the reality of the job and all that it entails.

Agreed on both counts, thank you Dani for your input. You're right, I suppose it must take a certain mentality to deal with some of the less enjoyable aspects of being a WG...though to slightly counter act your point, plenty of girls do seem to have either upper or lower age limits, or both.

I guess any woman could do this job, but as we see from the reports, it takes a certain kind of woman to do this job well, and more importantly consistently well. There are more than enough negative reviews to show this isn't the case, and there are plenty of girls doing this job solely because either they need quick cash or because they're unable to do much else.

Offline Morthos

Hot younger girls are probably finding that they can make enough money nowadays being a camgirl or findomme. No need for them to actually let any of us touch them.

Offline smiths

I'm not going to pretend whoring is a glamorous career, it can't be much fun shagging older guys you don't fancy, and of course there are other negatives such as the stigma associated with it (thanks feminism), crazy punters, etc.

That said, the hourly rate is very good, and the girls effectively can be their own boss (assuming Sergei isn't). So are you surprised more girls don't work as prossies (even if only for a few short years)? Whenever I do an AW search, I'm always quite surprised by the lack of girls on there, especially hot younger girls who could make a killing. Obviously they do exist, I always just expect there to be more than there actually is...

No I am not all surprised, most women wouldn't so blatantly sell sex with strangers for cash in my view. Some women play the dating game and hook men that way then leech off them of course but that's targeted at one guy or one guy at a time I imagine in the main unless the woman is a serial con artist.

There is also a massive stigma in this country with its bullshit Victorian values, and WGs and punters are looked down on as filthy whores and perverted rainmac wearing weirdos/desperados, media driven in the main with the help of the femi-nazis like Julie Bindel and Harriet Harridan.

Its also interesting in my view after speaking to a few punters I know who have arranged to meet women for sex off Seeking Arrangements that most didn't view themselves as WGs yet that's exactly what they are, offering sex for cash or gifts BUT they just weren't advertising on A/W blatantly as WGs. Same to a degree with those sugar daddy leeches though in some cases they actually don't offer sex at all. Personally I prefer blatant WGs who I know assuming they aren't low lifes I WILL get sex off of in exchange for my cash.

Offline Malvolio

In a city of nearly 9 million people, that still seems quite low to me! And that's London, other areas of the UK are not so full of WGs.

Btw thank you Dani for your detailed reply. I think you're right, most girls just wouldn't be able to deal with the reality of the job and all that it entails.

Not all WGs are on Adultwork - and I only searched for the ones with the green 'verified today' sign.

Put it another way - when I wake up in the morning and think "I'd like to have a punt today", I've always been able to arrange a punt by midday.  That doesn't imply a shortage of supply to me

vt

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If more girls were able to overcome their personal revulsion and the social stigma of prostitution there would be a massive oversupply and fall in price.

We are already seeing signs of it with the ever increasing influx of Romanian/EE girls who seem not to attach the same stigma to prostituting themselves in a foreign land for easy cash and also the rise of pseudo-prostitution sites like SA where girls can circumvent their personal revulsion for clients by screening them and only agreeing to consort with those they like the look & sound of...this supply is soaking up punters and pushing hourly rates ever lower in real terms.

Doing the maths, if punters punt on average once a month and prossies service 10-15 punters a week, each prossie needs around 40-60 punters to keep her busy. You can see how the supply/demand balance can be easily upset by small increases in supply (prossies).
« Last Edit: June 16, 2016, 08:43:55 am by vt »

vt

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To take the maths to its logical conclusion...for every prossie who enters the market another 50 punters must enter for the supply/demand balance to remain the same. If supply exceeds demand, the overall pressure on prices is downward.

Offline anyfucker

I can't think of any other job that would give a woman more pleasure than having sex with me.  :kiss:
i think there are 15  women (at least ) who would disagree   :lol:

WhattheFlip

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I'm surprised when I see studies like that one someone referenced recently about students selling themselves, and never see the results of loads of 18-22 yo english girls on AW! I think camming etc makes it so easy for them to top up their income, they don't need to escort.
I think lots of girls like the idea of escorting in theory after seeing Secret Diary etc where most of the punters are handsome 30-50yo businessmen who go to the gym 5 times a week and will either 'make love' to them, or want to do funny, kinky non-sexual stuff. But then they realise that the reality is the nuts and bolts, day-to-day job is having sweaty fatties, weirdos and pensioners (love you all guys!) stick their tongues in their mouths, hump away at them, and cum on their faces, the romance of the idea goes. It's not a lot of money for most people-most girls wouldn't sleep with someone they didn't fancy unless it was for thousands, probably tens of thousands, maybe even more. And that's before we even get to the 'stigma' and having to lie to everyone you know, aspects of the game.

ickydicky

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interesting insightful and nuanced reply to the op from the hoor dani.

Noah Hope

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interesting insightful and nuanced reply to the op from the hoor dani.

Dani came up with an interesting thought experiment. But it wouldn't work in practice.
The bingo hall would turn into a polyamorous mess.

vt

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interesting insightful and nuanced reply to the op from the hoor dani.

Yep, Dani is a reliable guide to the female view of the industry without any of the usual histrionics.

DG

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I guess it takes a certain type of girl to sell sex, but if I was female with my attitude towards sex, I would do it. :hi:

crazytrain

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 To be a prossie is very easy but to be a good prossie is hard.That is what I think.

Offline joe diddley

Aside from the issues of morality, revulsion of having sex with fat, hairy, ugly old men, and the state of the market, the job must also be very stressful. Problems surrounding the complexities of bookings, having the place in good order with all the accoutrements in place, having to put on a performance all the time, anxiety about difficult and even potentially aggressive clients, having to hide your work from friends and family, inability to develop or sustain ordinary relationships with men outside work, etc. must make this quite a stress inducing job. Not only that but you need to be very well organised to handle all of this, at least if you do it properly. I'm not sure many girls are psychologically up to this, even if they entertain the idea. No wonder many of the very best WGs burn out after a while. No, I'm not surprised that more girls don't do this job.

Offline joe diddley

Just to add that next to all of the above, working in a Soho walkup, often seen by some observers as the depths of degradation for those girls who work in such establishments, might be seen as a relative breeze. You go to work and the maid organises almost everything, down to screening out undesirables and providing security. That's in the better walkups of course, I hasten to emphasise. All you then have to do is fuck as many men as you can for the day. Not necessarily an easy task in itself but if you build up a roster of regulars and get some longer appointments, it is no worse, I suggest, than working as an independent where you may have more complicated expenses than the walkup girl's split with the management on top of all the headaches alluded to in my post immediately above.

Norbut

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I suspect that a lot more women would consider selling sex if they could get around the issues of social stigma, health risk, safety, inconvenience, having to have sex with any grungy old git at short notice, etc.

Sugar daddy sites like seekingarrangement might be a possibility to overcome the disadvantages of AW style prostitution.  I can imagine a set up where a woman has regular meetings with one or perhaps a few trustworthy regulars and everyone is happy and safe.  However, these sites seem to set unreasonable expectations as regards price and services (or lack thereof).

Is there a gap in the market for a more 'basic' sugar daddy service?


vinnyadms

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I cant even get my mistress to fuck a bloke (of her choice) whilst I watch - so fat chance I'd be able to pimp her out to all and sundry. I think she probably represents 99% of the population ....

The students selling sex % figures you see includes web cam, strippers, phone lines etc etc a small % actually sell their bodies.

Offline Jimmyredcab

As a London punter, I have found no shortage of girls.  Just searched AW for female escorts available today and found 943 profiles.  If you restrict that to 25 and under there are 533 profiles.

Many are headless photos or lowlife skanks ----------------- Adultwork is fucking useless.    :bomb: :bomb: :bomb:

Offline redneon

Aside from the obvious stigma and health risks... If she's truly hot, chances are she doesn't need to worry about money too often. There's bound to be guys in her friendzone jumping at the chance to pay for everything.

mikexxlong

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No because they either have more respect for themselves
or they know they couldn’t bring themselves to get it on with every tom dick or harry that turned up,
regardless of how much money could be made

These days no girl has to turn to prostitution to survive,
(unless they are sadly forced or have out of control drug addictions, etc.)

As there is just too much help and support out there from benefits to help finding regular work,
housing the list goes on, so no real need to out of necessity.


Offline maxxblue

To be a prossie is very easy but to be a good prossie is hard.That is what I think.

How do you know when you haven't started punting yet?

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=100682.msg1195200#msg1195200

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Offline welshman

As other posters have said one of the most difficult aspects of being a WG is having sex with men regardless of their appearence whom WGs have no attraction to.  I started punting pre GFE when things like kissing were not allowed and punters were quite limited in what they could do which may have made having sex with men WGs felt no attraction to more tolerable.  In recent years there has been the introduction of the GFE where kissing and hugging has become standard and the sex between punters and WGs is more intimate which may make it more difficult for WGs to have sex with men they feel no attraction to because WGs are now expected to do more with punters than in the past.   

Offline Kinkykate78

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To be honest I don't think it's a job most women could do; you need to like people, have high tolerance levels in some cases, and genuinely love (lots of) sex to be good at this.   :) oh and be completely uninhibited  :D

Offline Horizontal pleasures

So many claim to enjoy the work in their profiles, so is it true?

I mainly go for mature ladies and they seem to have fun with me, it cannot all be an act surely, which it would have to be with someone in her twenties with me aged 74, not overweight but bearded and starting to wrinkle.


Offline joe diddley

The mature WGs, HP, are in my view often better not because they are necessarily more skilled in the sack (though some certainly are) or because they enjoy sex more (though I guess some do) but because they have developed mechanisms to deal with those stresses I discussed in my earlier posts on this thread. Experience has taught them how to deal with these effectively and they are therefore often less uptight, more relaxed, and consequently a lot more fun. Hard of course to generalise but that's how I think it stacks up as often as not. 

Offline maxxblue

So many claim to enjoy the work in their profiles, so is it true?

I mainly go for mature ladies and they seem to have fun with me, it cannot all be an act surely, which it would have to be with someone in her twenties with me aged 74, not overweight but bearded and starting to wrinkle.

 :lol:

You are just starting to wrinkle at 74. What's your secret?

Offline Horizontal pleasures

if I revealed it on here it would no longer be a secret.

Offline momochan

is it cos black dont crack ?   :lol:

Ben4454

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I am sure 60% of women would do this job if there were no negative social/press stigma about doing it. Look at certain asian country towns where the place is full of monetary companions and you will see what I mean. I think this is kind of proven with the rise of Seeking Arrangement. Look at pornstars.. no social stigma but in reality you are being paid to be fucked yet the media attention is much different. This means it attracts hotter girls.

In the British media working girls are portrayed as toothless herion addicts... if they were portrayed as beautiful businesswomen then more women would join... it is all about the image which is portrayed by the media and current social views. If no one judged women for this role then more would be open minded to do it. The truth is all women love sex and all women love money.. so for a majority becoming a monetary companion would be a good career move, however with the current negative stigma towards it many women will not touch the full blown working girl identity.. it is in the current 'sugar baby' status. I believe a lot of women have this career idea 'locked down' in their minds but they cannot fully let themselves go because they would feel bad about it.

I think for Britain to become even more liberal about prostitution it would drive UP tourism meaning more money for the government. Less people would go on benefits because they could do this career instead. Myself I see prostitution as any other career. I do not view these women as 'sluts' and I have a respect for them (unless Romanian)
« Last Edit: June 19, 2016, 10:58:12 am by Ben4454 »

5th Musketeer

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I think that Ben4454 has a point.  Several of the WGs I have seen have NOT looked like WGs at all, and if you saw them on the street you would never guess what they did in their spare time.  In fact you might look at them and think they would be ideal to get to know as a civvy.

Offline maxxblue

I think that Ben4454 has a point.  Several of the WGs I have seen have NOT looked like WGs at all, and if you saw them on the street you would never guess what they did in their spare time.  In fact you might look at them and think they would be ideal to get to know as a civvy.

What does a WG look like?  :unknown:

Offline hantshagger

the 'lady of the night', personification maybe..... as one might have seen in years gone by.  Times change....  less need to be "visibly a WG" when there's the internet to get appointments .....

5th Musketeer

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What does a WG look like?  :unknown:
Perhaps I was thinking of looking at the issue from the reverse - and especially GFE, or "girl next door" however we define that to ourselves.  On the other hand, as Hantshagger pointed out, there is less need these days for WGs to look like WGs used to when there's the internet to get appointments .....

Offline joe diddley

I am sure 60% of women would do this job if there were no negative social/press stigma about doing it. Look at certain asian country towns where the place is full of monetary companions and you will see what I mean. I think this is kind of proven with the rise of Seeking Arrangement. Look at pornstars.. no social stigma but in reality you are being paid to be fucked yet the media attention is much different. This means it attracts hotter girls.

In the British media working girls are portrayed as toothless herion addicts... if they were portrayed as beautiful businesswomen then more women would join... it is all about the image which is portrayed by the media and current social views. If no one judged women for this role then more would be open minded to do it. The truth is all women love sex and all women love money.. so for a majority becoming a monetary companion would be a good career move, however with the current negative stigma towards it many women will not touch the full blown working girl identity.. it is in the current 'sugar baby' status. I believe a lot of women have this career idea 'locked down' in their minds but they cannot fully let themselves go because they would feel bad about it.

I think for Britain to become even more liberal about prostitution it would drive UP tourism meaning more money for the government. Less people would go on benefits because they could do this career instead. Myself I see prostitution as any other career. I do not view these women as 'sluts' and I have a respect for them (unless Romanian)

 :rolleyes: