Zara - Hijabi Girl Wembley

[scutty brown]

I am a simple person and generally would try to help someone I thought was in distress.. it is difficult to comment if I have not met them tbh.
It’s easy to see what you want to see depending on your point of view, and your preconceptions.
There are a lot of cases that we have reviews on here we can pick holes in and find problems with.
“In the UK, having two or more sex workers or escorts in the same premises simultaneously constitutes a brothel, which is illegal to own or manage.”
“Massage parlors are not explicitly regulated by law, but they can be registered with a PSA Accredited Register to ensure good standards of practice. However, offering extras like sexual acts in the guise of a massage is a form of prostitution, which is not illegal on its own, but the act of operating a brothel is illegal. Therefore, while the act of prostitution is not explicitly illegal, offering sexual services in a massage parlor would likely be a violation of laws against running a brothel and related activities.”
 
I have met many escorts who have felt more secure being managed by someone, as they don’t feel equipped to manage their bookings themselves.

I have met escorts in the past that I have helped set up their own bookings and websites, as they were being controlled by others that were not looking after their best interests.

There are a lot of woman who need to become escorts, as they see it as the only way to help support themselves and their families / drug habit etc. Be they from the Uk or overseas. What I don’t like is women who are exploited, who don’t realise what they are agreeing to.

And what will happen to the victims you report? Probably returned to their country of origin, so not really protected. Only 2% of the traffickers prosecuted..

Anyone have the answer 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

Kev
This case is nothing to do with whether it's a brothel or not.
It's also nothing to do with whether the girl wants to be a prostitute or not.
It's all to do with the imagery of this case, which to me and several others here looks very much like a case of modern slavery.
Under the circumstances it's beholden on anyone who has met the girl to report her circumstances to the police to enable them to check her safety and if necessary free her from her current situation. To not do so simply condones the current situation and allows it to propagate and perpetuate. This girl appears to be at risk: investigation is needed.
You mention a low prosecution rate with trafficking cases. I don't know where you get your figures from, but 2% is not something I recognise. However it is possible that the total number of traffickers arrested is that low - of those arrested I think you'll find most are convicted.
Why the low arrest rate? Simply because it is so difficult for the authorities to find, discover, locate and investigate the majority of girls in modern slavery / trafficking environments. They're hidden behind false names, stolen photos, ever changing locations, threats   of rape and violence, psychological intimidation  and control, and threats to their families. Against that background it's remarkable that any arrests are ever made. But some are, and where the evidence is available the perpetrators go to jail.
This is one of those cases where the evidence is there, already related by the reviewers of this girl. There is enough information given to strongly suggest this girl is being exploited my a modern slavery OCG. It needs acting upon, and the best people to start that are those who have met her.
There seems to be a habit among some of our community of ignoring or not understanding the fact and reality of trafficking / slavery when it stares you in the face. Until we collectively change that we are increasingly at risk of legislation emulating the situation in Northern Ireland where are hobby is banned. That's going to happen unless we as a group change.

[daviemac]

Thanks for this. Your earlier point about being potentially prosecuted for meeting a trafficked person is why I believe anyone who’s seen her is kind of naturally inclined to pretend there’s nothing going on and would underplay a situation of exploitation.

Fundamentally, if most people who weren’t involved in the situation (those reading it) can get natural suspicions off what the reviewer wrote, then that speaks volumes. There are loads of high volume SPs who are super popular now (grace and Kary divine in King’s Cross) but no one suspects them of being trafficked as they don’t exhibit the more subtle signs which have been noted by two separate people who have seen Zara, independent of each other. Very rare for both reviews separate of each other to cause a lot of concern for those simply reading it.

There was a big case in the NE a few years ago in order to gather the necessary evidence against a child sex abuse ring they employed a convicted sex offender to infiltrate the gang, nobody knows what he got up to behind closed doors but after a long investigation and evidence gathering the gang were convicted and jailed, no action against the informant.

[Mstar86]

For indexing as seems very relevant

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[gurds]

Let’s be honest. She does back to back owo cim bookings with seemingly dodgy dudes for circa 10 hours a day. A dozen loads would be a kind estimate. It’s definitely no go territory. Can’t imagine she’s clean

Also when did £55 for a blowjob become cheap. Baffled by the demand for this one can’t lie

Nowadays going price for blowjob is like 120 for 30 mins, sometimes more! Depending as well on cim, swallow, etc.

Some people do 15 min blow and go but I think 30 mins is a better length of time for a good BJ.

[puntingking]

Let’s be honest. She does back to back owo cim bookings with seemingly dodgy dudes for circa 10 hours a day.

If this bothers you then this hobby isn't for you 

[jamiekinkxxx]

If this bothers you then this hobby isn't for you 

Not everyone see SP's that take this approach. There are some that are low volume providers, so I 100% disagree with your premise

[JustaPunter]

If this bothers you then this hobby isn't for you 

Just because you don’t view all SPs as a piece of meat doesn’t mean “this hobby isn’t for you”, you don’t need to be a misogynist to visit SPs

[Garyhart]

Just because you don’t view all SPs as a piece of meat doesn’t mean “this hobby isn’t for you”, you don’t need to be a misogynist to visit SPs

He’s trying to troll you, ignore the guy

[MLawro93]

If this bothers you then this hobby isn't for you 

Going to disagree here. Preferring a provider who's lower volume or takes time between bookings is completely reasonable, for both the client's experience and the provider's wellbeing.

Caring about how a SP manages her schedule doesn't mean "this hobby isn't for you." You don't have to view providers as disposable to participate.

[puntingking]

The point I was making is that this should not put you off seeing a sp, even though it is not ideal to see sp who have back to back bookings.

I always try to be a sp first customer of the day, but I can't know for sure or guarantee that I will be.

I would still punt a sp if I fail to be their first customer of the day, even though I would much preferred I was their first.

It is their job at the end of the day, they will of course see more than just you in their work day.

[MLawro93]

The point I was making is that this should not put you off seeing a sp, even though it is not ideal to see sp who have back to back bookings.

I always try to be a sp first customer of the day, but I can't know for sure or guarantee that I will be.

I would still punt a sp if I fail to be their first customer of the day, even though I would much preferred I was their first.

It is their job at the end of the day, they will of course see more than just you in their work day.

That may be what you meant, but "this hobby isn't for you" reads as dismissive, not nuanced. Online forums don't convey tone, easy for things to come across differently than intended 

[gurds]

Issue as well is hygiene. If she has no time between clients to clean herself is a big hygiene risk.

[scutty brown]

If this bothers you then this hobby isn't for you 

Well it damn well should bother you - and everyone else indulging in this hobby.
Why is she doing back to back bookings? Because she is under control by a pimp / gangmaster / fake boyfriend or similar. That's clear from the reviews of her. You could say she's trafficked, in the legal sense she is - but best to avoid using that word because too many people on this site misunderstand it. And using it makes people run away like headless chickens.
However you say it, she's not in control of her own life. She's fucking to order, the order of some hidden pimp who manages her timetable and life. However you look at it, that's a miserable life she doesn't deserve but can't get out of on her own.
Her only exit route is if someone who's seen her calls the police with details, with full address including flat number or room number (if a hotel). No good just giving a rough address, they need detail so they can just walk in and grab her
Locate her. Call 101, tell them where she is and that she's at risk.



For completeness she has other profiles as well, some claiming she's Polish, others Indian
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and on this Kommons page External Link/Members Only
as "Indian Cim,Owo,Cif, Included - 24"  allegedly named Madison

[MissWolf]

The pimp isn't even hidden Scutty, I've read at least one review where he answered the door and took the guy to the room 


https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=432817.0

Also this one https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=443652.0

[Garyhart]

Well it damn well should bother you - and everyone else indulging in this hobby.
Why is she doing back to back bookings? Because she is under control by a pimp / gangmaster / fake boyfriend or similar. That's clear from the reviews of her. You could say she's trafficked, in the legal sense she is - but best to avoid using that word because too many people on this site misunderstand it. And using it makes people run away like headless chickens.
However you say it, she's not in control of her own life. She's fucking to order, the order of some hidden pimp who manages her timetable and life. However you look at it, that's a miserable life she doesn't deserve but can't get out of on her own.
Her only exit route is if someone who's seen her calls the police with details, with full address including flat number or room number (if a hotel). No good just giving a rough address, they need detail so they can just walk in and grab her
Locate her. Call 101, tell them where she is and that she's at risk.



For completeness she has other profiles as well, some claiming she's Polish, others Indian
External Link/Members Only
External Link/Members Only
and on this Kommons page External Link/Members Only
as "Indian Cim,Owo,Cif, Included - 24"  allegedly named Madison

It’s clear to see what’s actually going on, we had this discussion about this same SP on another thread but many punters for some reason I don’t understand, would rather pretend to be oblivious to it. It’s very confusing how punters can see the issues from the previous threads on her and still line up to see her.

threads like these are the reason why I largely avoid VS and other ultra cheap providers who have 20 different nationalities each, alongside an extreme back to back booking style. 2 punters who saw her both independently expressed their concerns with her, for those like puntingking to dismiss it as a non issue ultimately says a lot about him, he has a habit for defending the indefensible 

[Garyhart]

There was a big case in the NE a few years ago in order to gather the necessary evidence against a child sex abuse ring they employed a convicted sex offender to infiltrate the gang, nobody knows what he got up to behind closed doors but after a long investigation and evidence gathering the gang were convicted and jailed, no action against the informant.

Saw this again and thought I replied back then. Interesting case this is. I’m convinced that if they deployed this tactic with said SP, they’d find ample evidence of exploitation taking place. A quick read alone of this review and others of her would answer all of their suspicions.

[scutty brown]

Saw this again and thought I replied back then. Interesting case this is. I’m convinced that if they deployed this tactic with said SP, they’d find ample evidence of exploitation taking place. A quick read alone of this review and others of her would answer all of their suspicions.

The difficulty is that if the girl is found to be trafficked, then anyone visiting her is automatically guilty of an offence. And worse, if the visit is under the control of the police then all kinds of legal confusion come into play regarding entrapment, collusion, and outright illegality. You can't deliberately break the law to prove the law has been broken.....

[Garyhart]

The difficulty is that if the girl is found to be trafficked, then anyone visiting her is automatically guilty of an offence. And worse, if the visit is under the control of the police then all kinds of legal confusion come into play regarding entrapment, collusion, and outright illegality. You can't deliberately break the law to prove the law has been broken.....

I’m not saying anyone should go and do that but I think Daviemac said the police themselves sent across a fmr sex offender to go and gather intel on the operation. They use these tactics for a lot of different crimes, former criminals of an offence will know all the nooks and crannies of it.

The bit of your post I highlighted is a big part of why I think many punters who’ve seen her / want to see her pretend that nothing is going on.

[MLawro93]

Again this SP keeps popping up, many reviews already of her, both negative and positive. Disappointing to see so many look past red flags to show interest and potentially see her. There is a genuine high risk you are supporting the exploitation of someone.

[gurds]

was thinking of seeing her but will avoid. Also big issue is she is sucking lots of cocks one after another and throatpies and no breaks in between to clean herself.

Is a bit disgusting for any punters.

[puntingking]

2 punters who saw her both independently expressed their concerns with her, for those like puntingking to dismiss it as a non issue ultimately says a lot about him, he has a habit for defending the indefensible

yawn

[Garyhart]

yawn

I’m not the only one who thinks this mate, others have noted it, including Daviemac who’s said the same to you only a few weeks ago. you’re a weirdo and I worry for SPs who have to bear with you

[puntingking]

The difficulty is that if the girl is found to be trafficked, then anyone visiting her is automatically guilty of an offence. And worse, if the visit is under the control of the police then all kinds of legal confusion come into play regarding entrapment, collusion, and outright illegality. You can't deliberately break the law to prove the law has been broken.....

You would need "good" punters to see her for them to make a judgment whether she is traffcked or not. If a "good" punter think she is then he would report it. That is how the majority of these get solved.

Without good punters wanting to arrange a booking with her, it would only leave bad punters to keep going and nothing gets done.

They are not concerned with punters, they are concerned with pimps and real trafficked victims.

[puntingking]

I’m not the only one who thinks this mate, others have noted it, including Daviemac who’s said the same to you only a few weeks ago. you’re a weirdo and I worry for SPs who have to bear with you

Just for the record, sps have always said that I am polite to them and so on. All things good.

Don't make it personal mate

[Mstar86]

Jeeze this thread took a turn!

Some really good points raised though.

Hope she’s ok and finds away out if she isn’t doing this by her own free will.

[Midnight_Peeler]

I think these on going assumptions of her is one of the reason I've decided not to post more reviews of her, which may or may not be a good idea.
Might get some flak for trying to defend her but I don't care. I've met her and spoke to her multiple times, others haven't. And this isn't me trying to convince people to see her. If you don't want to then don't and you shouldn't be judged for it
Spend your time and money on someone who you're comfortable with.

People just pick out the negatives, fill in imaginary gaps and build there own story and tell you, "No, this is actually what's happening".

Yes, her standards are low. Probably worse when she was in a hotel in Wembley, but my more recent visits to her, there were no problems at all (as far as I know of).

Once when I visited, I actually went into a shop before hand, saw a guy there, even let me cut in front of him in the queue. When I went got to her, much to my surprise, he opened the door. Super chill guy, let me in, told her I was here and I got on my business with her.
In fact, we actually went WAY over time. She was pretty annoyed (not at me) and was arguing with him or annoyed that the person handling her comms (a girl) didn't tell him or her the time was up.

If he was her pimp, pretty sure he'd be concerned with punters getting more time than they paid for.
He didn't seem to care much... why? Because he was just her security (as she told me), not her manager or pimp.
I told her I can pay her extra as I felt bad for also not watching the time, she said no no no.
If she was concerned or worried she'd probably want to make sure she had money for her "pimp".

Another time I visit her, a different guy was there. Again, chill guy. Sat down and waited for her with him while he was playing some games or watching tv. Neither of these guys talked to her like trash, seemed more like they worked for her if anything.

Honestly I think it's a good idea to take ALL reviews, comments and opinions, good or bad with a pinch of salt (including mine).
So someone says "when her pimp eventually arrived" or a scary looking guy opened the door. How do they know they're her pimp? Did he introduce himself as such? Did she say so? Pretty sure it's a common joke to label guys met when visiting an SP as a pimp or Sergei...

It's not so rare for SPs to have "security". And they rightly should if they want.

[puntingking]

Hi Midnight_Peeler, I have not seen this sp (yet) but I am with you on this. 

[stewart99]

Given this seems like a no go, can anyone suggest alternative providers of a similar service for pretty good value?

[finn5555]

Given this seems like a no go, can anyone suggest alternative providers of a similar service for pretty good value?

Yes 👍🏻👍🏻

[puntingking]

Given this seems like a no go, can anyone suggest alternative providers of a similar service for pretty good value?

There are 2 positives and 2 negative reviews of this sp. The chance of a bad experience with this sp is no more higher than the chance of a good experience with this sp 

[Lorachoop]

Damn the discussion is still going, on a review I posted. I walked for reasons I have already listed but haven't said much on the various replies about her being forced to do this. If my opinion matters, I will share it. I do NOT think she is doing this against her will. Firstly, she can speak English well and was quite assertive with the punter before me "You need to go, your time is up" and the brief encounter I had with her, I did not get the feeling she was doing this against her will. If I had this inkling, I would have def! done something about it. Reporting a vulnerable person is just the right thing to do, I do not think she is one.

[puntingking]

Damn the discussion is still going, on a review I posted. I walked for reasons I have already listed but haven't said much on the various replies about her being forced to do this. If my opinion matters, I will share it. I do NOT think she is doing this against her will. Firstly, she can speak English well and was quite assertive with the punter before me "You need to go, your time is up" and the brief encounter I had with her, I did not get the feeling she was doing this against her will. If I had this inkling, I would have def! done something about it. Reporting a vulnerable person is just the right thing to do, I do not think she is one.

 

[gurds]

To op, how will hotel stuff bust your ass? Most hotels don't really care about prostitution.

[finn5555]

To op, how will hotel stuff bust your ass? Most hotels don't really care about prostitution.

Well they certainly don’t condone or encourage it 

[gurds]

They make money from it . Happens in majority of hotels in the country. Prostitution is legal as well in England.

[finn5555]

They make money from it . Happens in majority of hotels in the country. Prostitution is legal as well in England.

Prostitution is legal    Thank you for that important piece of information

[scutty brown]

They make money from it . Happens in majority of hotels in the country. Prostitution is legal as well in England.

You're treading into murky waters with comments like that....
Prostitution may well be legal, but a hotel providing accommodation for use by a prostitute is illegal.

[gurds]

You're treading into murky waters with comments like that....
Prostitution may well be legal, but a hotel providing accommodation for use by a prostitute is illegal.

fair enough. The britannia hotel in canary wharf never got the memo 

[Lorachoop]

To op, how will hotel stuff bust your ass? Most hotels don't really care about prostitution.

I have heard it from many SPs, where they were reported (by a disgruntled customer or surrounding rooms) when working out of a hotel, and the hotel staff asked them to leave.

[finn5555]

fair enough. The britannia hotel in canary wharf never got the memo 

It is now full of immigrant fighting age men off the boats 

I am sure if they had complaints they would have acted on them, don't be so naive. 

[gurds]

The difficulty is that if the girl is found to be trafficked, then anyone visiting her is automatically guilty of an offence. And worse, if the visit is under the control of the police then all kinds of legal confusion come into play regarding entrapment, collusion, and outright illegality. You can't deliberately break the law to prove the law has been broken.....

Yh and this seems really unfair. How can any punters possibly know for sure if a girl is exploited or not

I think this law should be changed to where it is illegal to have sex with a girl if you already know beforehand that she is trafficked/exploited.

[puntingking]

The difficulty is that if the girl is found to be trafficked, then anyone visiting her is automatically guilty of an offence. And worse, if the visit is under the control of the police then all kinds of legal confusion come into play regarding entrapment, collusion, and outright illegality. You can't deliberately break the law to prove the law has been broken.....

in this case you speak off, any man can be guility of rape if a woman says "yes" but in her mind she means "no". Or that she regrets having sex the next morning and so reports a rape. 

How can a man know if a woman wants sex or not 

It is black and white.
If she says "yes" or has actions that suggests that she wants sex with you. Then she does want sex.
It is only rape if a woman says "no" and the guy carries on having sex with her 

So in your view any woman can regret having sex and report a rape.

A guy can't do that, can he 

If this sp says to one of her clients - "i am being forced, bla bla bla" then most people (I'd like to think everyone) would report that and help the girl out. 

It is not a man's fault if he sees a sp and there are no suggestions from him that a woman in question is being forced in anyway.


Every time I see a sp, I would know if they are doing it by choice or by force. You will call me naive properly in thinking this but I would know.
 

Anyone can have a look on the internet for signs of what to look out for to be safe and sure 

But as punters, it is also our responsibility to make sure if we come across signs that look distrubing to us to report it straight away to the right authorities and I have faith that most punters would do that. 
 

[scutty brown]

Yh and this seems really unfair. How can any punters possibly know for sure if a girl is exploited or not

I think this law should be changed to where it is illegal to have sex with a girl if you already know beforehand that she is trafficked/exploited.

If you did that it gives an instant defence to everyone of "I didn't know". Would make a prosecution impossible

[puntingking]

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[puntingking]

Her mobile number has not been put up on her profile for a good few days now 

[puntingking]

Her adult work link is gone.

Any new links? Or has she moved on? 

[koshkaj]

Other ads are still up, probably more out there and the number is the same

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[puntingking]

Other ads are still up, probably more out there and the number is the same

External Link/Members Only