Anyone ever feel guilty seeing sex workers

[gurds]

I am attractive (according to women) but I still punt. Less hassle then the dating scene is my reasoning.
Also, when a punter pays for sex he doesn't have to worry about performing or worry about pleasing the woman. It becomes all about him.


what you said, is like saying a man who can cook doesn't need to pay to go to eat at the restaurant.
Maybe he loves to be waited on sometime. Same in the punting scene. 

Is true, but I guess one issue is that if you have habit or are used to seeing escorts it can become a way of life and very little chance you will ever be faithful to anyone in a relationship.

Whereas men that never saw any escorts would most likely be faithful in any relationship and probably better partners overall.

[WelshClipper]

Is true, but I guess one issue is that if you have habit or are used to seeing escorts it can become a way of life and very little chance you will ever be faithful to anyone in a relationship.

Whereas men that never saw any escorts would most likely be faithful in any relationship and probably better partners overall.

I have always thought that the cross over of faithful husband to punting husband is like crossing the Grand Canyon. It’s a huge leap but once committed there is little chance of going back. You are permanently on the dark side.

However my brother-in-law was caught cheating once by my sister and when caught, he went through hell. They are back together in an uneasy truce and he playing the contrite husband

All that mess for a one time, piece of skirt down the road. What fucking loser. Bolshy, bullshitting alpha male as well 

[alabama1]

I am attractive (according to women) but I still punt. Less hassle then the dating scene is my reasoning.
Also, when a punter pays for sex he doesn't have to worry about performing or worry about pleasing the woman. It becomes all about him.


what you said, is like saying a man who can cook doesn't need to pay to go to eat at the restaurant.
Maybe he loves to be waited on sometime. Same in the punting scene. 

The gift that keeps on giving 

[alabama1]

Is true, but I guess one issue is that if you have habit or are used to seeing escorts it can become a way of life and very little chance you will ever be faithful to anyone in a relationship.

Whereas men that never saw any escorts would most likely be faithful in any relationship and probably better partners overall.

Have you ever thought of asking puntingking out for a beer ? I would love to be a fly on the wall. The conversation would be hilarious 

[gurds]

Have you ever thought of asking puntingking out for a beer ? I would love to be a fly on the wall. The conversation would be hilarious 

Would be funny. I understand his view. Seeing escorts can be like going to restaurants. Only problem is once you are used to seeing escorts you are doomed really when it comes to relationships. No chance you can commit to one woman and not end up cheating.

Is what it is. I'm sure we are all aware of this problem. Men are basically just hard wired to want to always have sex with lots of younger women. What fascinates me though is how some men are able to be married for decades and never cheat. To me this is an incredible achievement.

[JontyR]

Would be funny. I understand his view. Seeing escorts can be like going to restaurants. Only problem is once you are used to seeing escorts you are doomed really when it comes to relationships. No chance you can commit to one woman and not end up cheating.

Is what it is. I'm sure we are all aware of this problem. Men are basically just hard wired to want to always have sex with lots of younger women. What fascinates me though is how some men are able to be married for decades and never cheat. To me this is an incredible achievement.

Sorry, but this is just bollocks.

If you want to justify your actions then that is up to you. But no one is forcing you to go and pay to have sex with SPs.

If your behaviours are non-controllable and are causing your significant physical, emotional or financial harm then you need to seek help.

Yeah, we've all made some poor punitng or life decisions, but that's just the world. To say you are unable to control any urge, then you are possibly a danger to yourself and others.

[gurds]

Sorry, but this is just bollocks.

If you want to justify your actions then that is up to you. But no one is forcing you to go and pay to have sex with SPs.

If your behaviours are non-controllable and are causing your significant physical, emotional or financial harm then you need to seek help.

Yeah, we've all made some poor punitng or life decisions, but that's just the world. To say you are unable to control any urge, then you are possibly a danger to yourself and others.

No one forces people. I was referring to the fact that men do have an urge to have sex with younger women. Im 33, I'm sure even when I'm 55 I will still have same urges.

Everyone is different though, maybe some people are able to see escorts and then stop completely if they are in a relationship. I don't know what professional would be able to help in terms of controlling this urge though.

[Colston36]

At 89 my feelings and inclinations have not changed at all. I'm more perverse and less fit than when young. That's all.

[gurds]

At 89 my feelings and inclinations have not changed at all. I'm more perverse and less fit than when young. That's all.

Fair play man to still be going at it at 89. Do you take Viagra or Cialis?

[Munter84]

I feel neither guilty nor proud about seeing escorts. I treat it as an act of self-care: I'm a person with sexual needs and I don't think there should be any particular stigma attached to having those sexual needs met, as long as it's through legal and consentual means. In return I think I'm a decent punter: I arrive on time, hygienic, with the correct money, I treat the ladies courteously, and I fuck off on time.

At the same time I agree with ethical punting. I've never knowingly used an escort who was trafficked, or showed any indications of working under duress. Have I punted some moody cows? Sure, but it's a job, none of us are entitled to a job which is easy or enjoyable 100% of the time.

I've also seen a few ladies who, let's not be naive, clearly had issues. Mental health, alcoholism, substance use, whatever. Those issues are by no means unique to sex work, but probably over represented in the industry. I've tended not to make these ladies into regulars. I don't necessarily think punting these "troubled" ladies is inherently exploitative, but it's not great for the conscience either.

[Colston36]

I have taken both. Still take Viagra when I remember; which is not always,thought it doesn't seem to make that much difference. I think what counts is that I do a ludicrous amount of exercise. Swim 4/5days a week, 20 lengths, don't drive, but walk a lot; only see a woman once a week normally. My chief problem is having had prostate misery so have a weird form of orgasm, which is internal. Happily my best female friend is a an ex escort. She is 53 years younger than me, with the filthiest mind you can imagine. Well, maybe filthier. I see her about once a fortnight, often with another escort.

[qarma]

In answer to the OP's original question, I certainly used to feel guilty. The drive home was often torturous!

However, I've come to the realisation that punting has saved my marriage, rather than been a threat to it. I've never had an affair, but I'm in an almost sexless (but otherwise happy) marriage and seeing sex workers has been one of the most exciting and liberating experiences of my life. I'd say it's been invaluable and essential and I wouldn't change anything.

[Colston36]

In answer to the OP's original question, I certainly used to feel guilty. The drive home was often torturous!

However, I've come to the realisation that punting has saved my marriage, rather than been a threat to it. I've never had an affair, but I'm in an almost sexless (but otherwise happy) marriage and seeing sex workers has been one of the most exciting and liberating experiences of my life. I'd say it's been invaluable and essential and I wouldn't change anything.

I sometimes wonder what wives who don't offer sex assume their husbands do.

[tynetunnel]

Mine calls me “wanker”, so maybe there’s a clue!   

[alabama1]

I sometimes wonder what wives who don't offer sex assume their husbands do.

Wank, probably 

[riker]

No guilt here whatsoever.

As for why the majority of men don't cheat on their wives/girlfriends, a) if married they could lose a lot e.g. house etc; b) you are assuming they have options to cheat!

Most men are totally unattractive to women.

[riker]

I have taken both. Still take Viagra when I remember; which is not always,thought it doesn't seem to make that much difference. I think what counts is that I do a ludicrous amount of exercise. Swim 4/5days a week, 20 lengths, don't drive, but walk a lot; only see a woman once a week normally. My chief problem is having had prostate misery so have a weird form of orgasm, which is internal. Happily my best female friend is a an ex escort. She is 53 years younger than me, with the filthiest mind you can imagine. Well, maybe filthier. I see her about once a fortnight, often with another escort.

Awesome, respect to you sir. 89 years old! Fantastic! 

[OakTree]

I can’t say I’ve ever felt guilty about punting but there have been moments, briefly I might add, when I’ve caught myself in the mirror metaphorically speaking.

Am I that much of a loser I’m paying women to have sex?

The moment soon passes as I realise the upside of it all.

Yeah but I’ve fucked and enjoyed some really hot women. Women that in the real world most men could only dream of.

So no I’ve never felt guilty.

[Jonestown]

If you feel guilty just ask the girl for absolution, it’s worked for me for years.

[DastardlyDick]

I think the issue with Prince Andrew (or should that be Andrew Windsor now?) and his involvement with younger women is whether they were coerced or trafficked for sex, not their age. Here in the UK the age of consent is 16, in the US it's either 16, 17 or 18, depending on which State you're in. France, Poland and Czechia it's 15, but in Bahrain it's 21.

[gurds]

I think the issue with Prince Andrew (or should that be Andrew Windsor now?) and his involvement with younger women is whether they were coerced or trafficked for sex, not their age. Here in the UK the age of consent is 16, in the US it's either 16, 17 or 18, depending on which State you're in. France, Poland and Czechia it's 15, but in Bahrain it's 21.

yh, andrew was basically just a sex addict at end of day. Men are attracted generally to younger women, I don't really think Andrew is as scandalous as people think. He was basically just randy and wanted to have sex all the time with loads of women.

The main reason he was close to Epstein in the first place was due to his power and connections and his ability to fasttrack Andrew into a life of riches and opulence, more than what Andrew had before. Epstein had connections with loads of powerful people.

A 40 year old having sex with a 17yr old might be creepy but not illegal, if he did indeed have sex with the 17yr old.

[KatieEdinburgh]

A 40 year old having sex with a 17yr old might be creepy but not illegal, if he did indeed have sex with the 17yr old.

Well not if the 17 year old is being paid to do so - even in the UK and disregarding the difference between age of consent here (16) and most of the US (18).

There are no prostitutes under the age of 18. Only trafficking victims 

[daviemac]

This is drifting into something totally unrelated to the topic of the thread and even into politics.

What has any of the names mentioned got to do with members of this forum feeling guilty for booking escorts?   

[Maak]

Sometimes, but if I punt or not, many other punters will shag the WGs anyway.

[Hurley]

I feel neither guilty nor proud about seeing escorts. I treat it as an act of self-care: I'm a person with sexual needs and I don't think there should be any particular stigma attached to having those sexual needs met, as long as it's through legal and consentual means. In return I think I'm a decent punter: I arrive on time, hygienic, with the correct money, I treat the ladies courteously, and I fuck off on time.

At the same time I agree with ethical punting. I've never knowingly used an escort who was trafficked, or showed any indications of working under duress. Have I punted some moody cows? Sure, but it's a job, none of us are entitled to a job which is easy or enjoyable 100% of the time.

I've also seen a few ladies who, let's not be naive, clearly had issues. Mental health, alcoholism, substance use, whatever. Those issues are by no means unique to sex work, but probably over represented in the industry. I've tended not to make these ladies into regulars. I don't necessarily think punting these "troubled" ladies is inherently exploitative, but it's not great for the conscience either.

Same here

[Colston36]

Is true, but I guess one issue is that if you have habit or are used to seeing escorts it can become a way of life and very little chance you will ever be faithful to anyone in a relationship.

Whereas men that never saw any escorts would most likely be faithful in any relationship and probably better partners overall.

More utter drivel, as usual. I was not even remotely faithful for many years, through three marriages and three  other long relationships. And I never felt in the least guilty, nor paid a pro for sex save once when drunk until I was 60. However I always fancied whores more than straight women - still do.

I got a lot of free sex because I had a very good job in a large international ad agency, was quite good looking, though not as captivating as you, Gurds. But I had published books and did a lot of public speaking. In that context I was seen as attractive. But I was never faithful in any relationship for decades. And since I discovered UK punting, I've been as a happy as a pig in shit.

[Colston36]

I feel neither guilty nor proud about seeing escorts. I treat it as an act of self-care: I'm a person with sexual needs and I don't think there should be any particular stigma attached to having those sexual needs met, as long as it's through legal and consentual means. In return I think I'm a decent punter: I arrive on time, hygienic, with the correct money, I treat the ladies courteously, and I fuck off on time.

At the same time I agree with ethical punting. I've never knowingly used an escort who was trafficked, or showed any indications of working under duress. Have I punted some moody cows? Sure, but it's a job, none of us are entitled to a job which is easy or enjoyable 100% of the time.

I've also seen a few ladies who, let's not be naive, clearly had issues. Mental health, alcoholism, substance use, whatever. Those issues are by no means unique to sex work, but probably over represented in the industry. I've tended not to make these ladies into regulars. I don't necessarily think punting these "troubled" ladies is inherently exploitative, but it's not great for the conscience either.

Well put.

[puntingking]

I feel neither guilty nor proud about seeing escorts. I treat it as an act of self-care: I'm a person with sexual needs and I don't think there should be any particular stigma attached to having those sexual needs met, as long as it's through legal and consentual means. In return I think I'm a decent punter: I arrive on time, hygienic, with the correct money, I treat the ladies courteously, and I fuck off on time.

At the same time I agree with ethical punting. I've never knowingly used an escort who was trafficked, or showed any indications of working under duress. Have I punted some moody cows? Sure, but it's a job, none of us are entitled to a job which is easy or enjoyable 100% of the time.

I've also seen a few ladies who, let's not be naive, clearly had issues. Mental health, alcoholism, substance use, whatever. Those issues are by no means unique to sex work, but probably over represented in the industry. I've tended not to make these ladies into regulars. I don't necessarily think punting these "troubled" ladies is inherently exploitative, but it's not great for the conscience either.

+1 

[qarma]

I feel neither guilty nor proud about seeing escorts. I treat it as an act of self-care: I'm a person with sexual needs and I don't think there should be any particular stigma attached to having those sexual needs met, as long as it's through legal and consentual means. In return I think I'm a decent punter: I arrive on time, hygienic, with the correct money, I treat the ladies courteously, and I fuck off on time.

At the same time I agree with ethical punting. I've never knowingly used an escort who was trafficked, or showed any indications of working under duress. Have I punted some moody cows? Sure, but it's a job, none of us are entitled to a job which is easy or enjoyable 100% of the time.

I've also seen a few ladies who, let's not be naive, clearly had issues. Mental health, alcoholism, substance use, whatever. Those issues are by no means unique to sex work, but probably over represented in the industry. I've tended not to make these ladies into regulars. I don't necessarily think punting these "troubled" ladies is inherently exploitative, but it's not great for the conscience either.

+1

Good post.

[shagmore]

No not at all, they advertise for punters to pay for having sex with them. You have to be careful of the Chinese / Thai escorts as they could be pimped, same with the eastern europeans, but you can usually spot the ones that are legit.
They are offering a service, I am paying for a service. Whats the issue.

I have a very good relationship with a couple of wgs who I see on a regular basis, it pays their bills, it empties my sack.

No problems at all, if you have a problem or feel guilty then you should not be punting.

Cheating of the fiancee, again, no, if she put out more I wouldn't have to punt.

These vies are typed after having several drinks, but I stick by them

[Thephoenix]

These vies are typed after having several drinks, but I stick by them

Verry god vies chum!!
Av anoter one! 

[big-al93]

Cheating of the fiancee, again, no, if she put out more I wouldn't have to punt.

If there's a mismatch sexually as  a fiance, please think very carefully about actually getting married, chances are the taps will be turned off completely.
Not saying you should feel guilty about cheating, but if you feel the need to before marriage, you should maybe reconsider the wedding.

[yesbby]

Sometimes, but if I punt or not, many other punters will shag the WGs anyway.

This is almost certainly not an attitude you would take towards any other issue of morality that you take seriously, whether it be theft, adultery, discrimination, climate change, littering or whatever is your thing.

I do feel guilty about contributing to the downfall of some of these women - I particularly don't like being part of a situation where a WG is totally committed 24seven to the role, especially as they enter the twilight of their fertile and attractive years. They've sold it for some material gain but I can see the loneliness and dysfunction on the horizon. I can't take the momentary pleasure seriously enough to overlook it.

Even the clever ones who come to London intermittently from poorer circumstances to make big sums can lose themselves in the process. I've had close contact with more than one over a period of years, watched them buy property back home, pay for their kid's security etc. But they've lost the plot slowly over time, their relationship with men has degraded, their moral structure has become stranger. I have contributed towards that.

I seek out the ones that seem to be in it for a shorter period - I find that easier to live with personally. This week I've heard news of an accepted marriage proposal from a WG / punter relationship. That seems to be a good outcome for the girl in question. Both parties are moving in the right direction. Neither will begrudge the punters who funded her stay in London - she gets out of Brazil to live in the city of her choice, he gets a hot new injection of DNA into the dating pool. Seems a reasonable trade-off for what's lost in a period of 'escorting'. 

[maybe]

We're doing our part by lowering crime by a little ...

Imagine having money and the urge and no where to get relief. Desperate ppl could go crazy.

[puntingking]

We're doing our part by lowering crime by a little ...

Imagine having money and the urge and no where to get relief. Desperate ppl could go crazy.

worse than that -

Imagine being a lonely man with no one around him and having intense sexual feeling yet no where to release that sexual feeling.

I am someone who is unable to cum during masturbation so imagine having that aswell.
Men in that scenario would go crazier. 

[alabama1]

We're doing our part by lowering crime by a little ...

Imagine having money and the urge and no where to get relief. Desperate ppl could go crazy.

Don't you mean the WG's are doing their part ?

[Thephoenix]

I used to feel guilty at first then realised it was for the common good.

[Bonker]

I dunno.
The pope?
A member of the royal family?
A eunuch?

I give up,  who?

[scutty brown]

I am someone who is unable to cum during masturbation so imagine having that as well.

The fix for that is in your own hands - just stop looking in the mirror while you're wanking. You're obviously no Narcissus

[lewisjones23]

Not in the slightest.

I pay the price they set, see them when they make themselves available, turn up on time and clean and dont ask for anything not on their likes list

Everything is on their terms so not sure what there is to feel guilty about

[Colston36]

Definitely not a nonce, no evidence either that Andrew is a nonce. Most of the women he had sex with were in their 20s.

"Most of the women"? And the others? So he was a part-time nonce.