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The general opinion is don't!

Besides, they probably already know.

I would guess that most of them know and just accept it as part of being an SP since there's sod all they can do about it.
The risk to the punter, as I said earlier, is that if she finds out she could put your phone number on the various "ugly mug" lists, which may reduce your punting options in the future.
The absolute worst thing you could do would be to use a leaving a review on here as leverage to get charged for  "extras" for free.

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The whole point of this site is that reviews are a true reflection of a punt. As it was, and therefore what someone else might reasonably expect, should they arrange a booking. When I have been asked about the site, I state that I’ve never heard of it

I believe that anyone advising a WG that they are a member of this site is hoping that they will get a better time and/or better services, as a result. Or a discount. That can be the only reason. It’s a bit like ‘Which’ doing a review on a fridge freezer. I believe they are impartial and it’s a fair and honest review as they paid money for the appliance at retail. If a manufacturer provided the sample for review, I wouldn't be certain that the review was impartial

In my book, any punter discussing this site with a WG prior to making a booking, is a wrong-un. Any reviews by such a punter, are worthless

100%.

I don't know about the reviews from such a punter being worthless but I would look at them very critically. Certainly a few punters have shown their true colours in this thread. It makes me wonder why OP wanted to discuss UKP with SPs.

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Anyone who is telling an SP that they are a UKP member is giving the same energy of a Yelp (or any other website you can leave reviews on) Reviewer that tells the server in a restaurant that they are a member of said website.

The only motivation for this is to attempt to manipulate the provider into better service.  I'd struggle to believe any other motive.

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I have often told SPs that i do post reviews on AW and also on UK, before booking. I do this mainly because I do not want them to experience any surprises. Most do not care one way or the other
From what you have said you have made your reviews pointless and worthless, the only reason to tell an SP you are a member here and are going to post a review is to manipulate them so you get a better service.

For any review posted on here to be of any use they have to reflect the service any punter who walks in off the street would get, not the sort of service an escort provides when trying to impress so she gets a positive review.

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I have often told SPs that i do post reviews on AW and also on UK, before booking. I do this mainly because I do not want them to experience any surprises. Most do not care one way or the other

That's called manipulation.

You shouldn't really be a member on here if you're using your membership for manipulation.

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In considering this question I think it is interesting to consider the history and evolution of the internet and sex work and in particular in relation to internet forums/review sites.

I began punting in 2003 which was coincidentally the year AW surfaced and by 2005 had fairly widespread use, though was far from the dominant online platform it was to become. This included a feedback system which has existed throughout and which because of its ‘two way’ setup has become increasingly flawed.

However it was predated in 1999 by a national platform (which we cannot name) where users (described as enthusiasts) could submit feedback known as Field Reports (FRs) This site later included a forum for both service seekers and providers to participate. By 2004 this platform was widely accepted as the leading resource for punters and escorts alike.

The latter in particular could derive huge benefit from positive reports and so the majority had no objection to receiving them and would actively seek them. As we have discovered over time, online commercial feedback be it Amazon, Trustpilot etc has its flaws as well as positives and sex work was to be no different. This included touting from SP’s and ‘manipulation’ by punters and SP’s alike. Inevitably as a result and for a variety of other reasons the afore mentioned platform went into decline, before imploding somewhat and now a shadow of its former self.

In 2010 UKP was born on the ethos of being a forum for punters to post ‘honest’ reviews without any strong influence from providers and became hugely popular and successful in achieving that and became the number one review site.

It is important to remember though that while the ethos may be admirable, it is not immune to the failings that all review sites suffer from. In addition the reports published are from a very small percentage of the overall punter population.

Also in adopting this ethos it became  a very hostile environment for what it termed ‘prossies’ and many decided the balance between the value of positive reviews was outweighed by this negative attitude and decided where possible, to seek out and avoid seeing UKP members and also in some circumstances punishing them by blacklisting on sites such as CE.

That said the some of the more 'savvy' professional ones still saw the value of positive feedback on UKP and put aside their dislike.

So we know the site has changed under the new ownership. I know Head1 considers reviews to still be paramount, but the forum has evolved and is considerably less hostile to both punters and SP’s, although the latter are very short in numbers in terms of active participation.

So, site ethos aside, currently it is probably still unwise to reveal any involvement, but many punters will still do so and some in order to abuse and manipulate the outcome of sessions, although this is impossible to quantify. You should assume that with all reports, there is a possibility the author mentioned he was a UKP member or the SP knew via other means.

Finally as others have touched on already you should concentrate on the quantity and overall positivity or otherwise of reviews and not the detail, much of which may be inaccurate ‘fantasy’ and a source of both bewilderment and amusement to the reviewed SPs  :D

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As Doc said, I also used another site and its intel to triangulate my own intel as I was pretty much flying blind before UKP. A lot of recces to massage shops, a lot of money wasted on farmers wives etc Or visiting brothels where there was zero chance of anyone good ever being on but I had no way of knowing that without repeat visits etc.

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Finally as others have touched on already you should concentrate on the quantity and overall positivity or otherwise of reviews and not the detail, much of which may be inaccurate ‘fantasy’ and a source of both bewilderment and amusement to the reviewed SPs  :D

As always, @Doc Holliday brings a reflective and well thought out view, an excellent summary :hi:.

When several members post reviews of an SP, be they positive or negative, it is the aggregate of the reviews that starts to paint a picture.

That's why all reviews add value, be they the first or thirtieth, they start to show a clear pattern, which a punter can hopefully rely upon.

I'm also sure that there are reviews on here of punts that never took place, sometimes for the posters fantasy, sometimes for the punter to notch up their review count, or prevent themselves from being banned under rule 27.

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The issue with review sites like those mentioned earlier, is that they're increasingly used to try and force freebies. A friend of mine works in the hospitality industry and they often get people threatening negative reviews on a well known travel site if they don't get something free or a reduction in their bill.

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As I recall there were a few high profile bannings on this site on account of demanding freebies for favourable reviews.

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The issue with review sites like those mentioned earlier, is that they're increasingly used to try and force freebies. A friend of mine works in the hospitality industry and they often get people threatening negative reviews on a well known travel site if they don't get something free or a reduction in their bill.

I've had it happen to me with a Google Review.

A client said unless I gave him what he was asking for, for free, he would leave a negative review in his business name. He left a negative review, I sent the email trail to Google, they did nothing.

His own business had appalling reviews, so I replied to the review adding the email trail. I finished off by advising that he should concentrate on his business as it had such appalling reviews.

Offline docpassion1

Do you punt much and variedly?

Not a lot now, 17 reviews here spread over many many years. Before that many more, in many countries.

When making a review on AW there is a process to be followed, Typically the the SP must confirm the booking and a "field report" can posted on AW, after the booking. This is very much part of the process there.
I do ask for a booking confirmation on AW bookings, with the clear understanding that I intend to post a review. I am just following the normal process there. This also provides information for other AW users, that are seeking services.
My objective and hope is that good SPs consistently get good reviews and that other punters are able to see that, wherever they may be looking. I believe that as a good thing, for all of us.

I now understand that UKP have a different process. There is a concern that a stated intent to post a review on UKP, might in some way influence the booking and hence the review. Rules is rules and I will not mention UKP when making future bookings.

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I now understand that UKP have a different process

So its taken you over 4 years to realise  :rolleyes:

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Not a lot now, 17 reviews here spread over many many years. Before that many more, in many countries.

When making a review on AW there is a process to be followed, Typically the the SP must confirm the booking and a "field report" can posted on AW, after the booking. This is very much part of the process there.
I do ask for a booking confirmation on AW bookings, with the clear understanding that I intend to post a review. I am just following the normal process there. This also provides information for other AW users, that are seeking services.
My objective and hope is that good SPs consistently get good reviews and that other punters are able to see that, wherever they may be looking. I believe that as a good thing, for all of us.

I now understand that UKP have a different process. There is a concern that a stated intent to post a review on UKP, might in some way influence the booking and hence the review. Rules is rules and I will not mention UKP when making future bookings.


You miss the point here. The AW system is inherently flawed and, quite frankly, it's a charade based on mutual back scratching.

Whilst there is a "process" as such on AW, there is no obligation to leave feedback. The only reason to leave any is to ensure the SP leaves you good feedback in return. You want good feedback to have a better chance of getting bookings with other SPs. Therefore punters are incentivised to leave positive feedback irrespective of how good the punt was. Leaving negative feedback (let's call that objective feedback or, pushing the boat out, "the truth") has repercussions since the SP might give you shitty feedback in retaliation or even lie (e.g., calling you a boundary pusher) and might blacklist you on escort sites. This can fuck up your chances of booking other SPs in the future.

Note that AW "feedback" is separate from the "field reports" which are a complete joke IMO. The only purpose is for fanboys to suck up to the SP. I choke on the fluff every time I read one.

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For the avoidance of any doubt what is the first rule of fight club ?

I've had a couple mention it & brush it off asking do you mean Pro$$ie net [using the proper name] ?
Adding that i thought these were parlour reviews
This kills off the convo, sorted

As for pro-actively mentioning UKP IMO is behaviour unbecoming which goes against the ethos of what UKP is about

Offline webpunter

Note that AW "feedback" is separate from the "field reports" which are a complete joke IMO. The only purpose is for fanboys to suck up to the SP. I choke on the fluff every time I read one.

Its hilarious they come across as soppy cunt struck inadequate individuals verging on incel status unless they get the folding out

AW FB can mostly be taken with a pinch of salt
The only excpetion is where SPs / massage burds have a long list of FB spread over a period of time from punters who themselves have FB likewise
& where the FB is consistent
In this situation it is but a pointer & likely that whichever burd it is will also have some commentary on here

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You miss the point here. The AW system is inherently flawed and, quite frankly, it's a charade based on mutual back scratching.

Whilst there is a "process" as such on AW, there is no obligation to leave feedback. The only reason to leave any is to ensure the SP leaves you good feedback in return. You want good feedback to have a better chance of getting bookings with other SPs. Therefore punters are incentivised to leave positive feedback irrespective of how good the punt was. Leaving negative feedback (let's call that objective feedback or, pushing the boat out, "the truth") has repercussions since the SP might give you shitty feedback in retaliation or even lie (e.g., calling you a boundary pusher) and might blacklist you on escort sites. This can fuck up your chances of booking other SPs in the future.

Note that AW "feedback" is separate from the "field reports" which are a complete joke IMO. The only purpose is for fanboys to suck up to the SP. I choke on the fluff every time I read one.

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AW reviews are pointless as far as determining if an SP is any good.

The only value for doing a review on AW is to increase your own review count and credibility for other SP's.

Offline docpassion1

So its taken you over 4 years to realise  :rolleyes:

Yes. if I buy a dodgy GPU card from amazon I can post a negative review on amazon. I could also review this experience on other relevant review sites, where it may also be of interest to similar buyers. Some providers know this, even if they are they are unfamiliar with what other relevant sites are out there, for what they are selling, I am still allowed to mention these other sites, when buying electrical goods. Review sites are good for buyers, the more the merrier in my book. I have made some assumptions here, which is my bad. I did not read the small print. This review site does not like to be mentioned at the time of purchase. Rules is rules. I learn each day, and i conform to the rules, as best as I know them.

I also take the point that AW feedback/field reports can be faked or misleading. (reviewers always have risk of banning, when the site does not like what you say.) The amazon web site can also be misleading, where some folks are just paid to write good reviews. Other ("third party") websites such as Trustpilot are often regarded as more reliable and I am happy that these websites also exist. I am allowed to mention Trustpilot as a review site. They have nothing to hide, openness and transparency is part of their ethos    :bomb:

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(reviewers always have risk of banning, when the site does not like what you say.) .

I am allowed to mention xxxxxx as a review site.
A couple of thing I need to clarify with your post.

Nobody is banned due to us not liking what they say, they are banned for using the site as a lever to gain favour with escorts.

Did you notice your post went into premod, that is because we have to check what is being said about that review site before it is made public, therefore if you can mention or not it depends very much on what you say
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Yes. if I buy a dodgy GPU card from amazon I can post a negative review on amazon. I could also review this experience on other relevant review sites, where it may also be of interest to similar buyers. Some providers know this, even if they are they are unfamiliar with what other relevant sites are out there, for what they are selling, I am still allowed to mention these other sites, when buying electrical goods. Review sites are good for buyers, the more the merrier in my book. I have made some assumptions here, which is my bad. I did not read the small print. This review site does not like to be mentioned at the time of purchase. Rules is rules. I learn each day, and i conform to the rules, as best as I know them.

I also take the point that AW feedback/field reports can be faked or misleading. (reviewers always have risk of banning, when the site does not like what you say.) The amazon web site can also be misleading, where some folks are just paid to write good reviews. Other ("third party") websites such as Trustpilot are often regarded as more reliable and I am happy that these websites also exist. I am allowed to mention Trustpilot as a review site. They have nothing to hide, openness and transparency is part of their ethos    :bomb:

Oooh i didnt realise, yeah right  :rolleyes:
You've been on here long enuf & done enough reviews for your claim IMO to be disingenuous
WTF have amazon & TrustP got to do with our fave sport ?

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I also take the point that AW feedback/field reports can be faked or misleading. (reviewers always have risk of banning, when the site does not like what you say.)

To be fair, I think he was talking about being banned from AW rather than UKP?

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To be fair, I think he was talking about being banned from AW rather than UKP?
Yeah but I was just emphasising unlike AW we don't ban people on here just for saying something we don't like.   :hi:

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Finally as others have touched on already you should concentrate on the quantity and overall positivity or otherwise of reviews and not the detail, much of which may be inaccurate ‘fantasy’ and a source of both bewilderment and amusement to the reviewed SPs  :D

Surely not!


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Ps.... I hope my response has been worth , cos I fell asleep with my finger on the back delete button. :rolleyes:
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Yes. if I buy a dodgy GPU card ...

You still miss the point. You should consider how these kinds of business make money. If a review site is free for consumers but earns from other businesses (sellers) then the site if going to show bias towards the sellers. Why would it be any other way?

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We should think of ourselves as the Michelin Star review board  :D

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Yes, there is a mystery around the identity of Michelin star inspectors UKP members. They operate under strict anonymity to ensure unbiased evaluations and avoid special treatment for chefs and restaurants SP's and brothels. While they are employees of the Michelin Group Members of UKP, their identities are kept secret, even from their families. This secrecy is crucial to maintaining the integrity and credibility of the Michelin Guide UKP Site.

Here's why anonymity is so important:

Unbiased Evaluations:
Keeping their identities secret prevents chefs and restaurant staff SP's from trying to influence the inspectors member or provide special treatment, ensuring a fair assessment of the dining  punting experience.

Consistent Experience:
Anonymity allows inspectors members to experience restaurants SP's the same way any other customer would, providing a more realistic and reliable evaluation of the food and service.

Maintaining Credibility:
The Michelin Guide UKP relies on the trust of its readers, and anonymity is a key factor in maintaining that trust.

Focus on Quality:
By remaining anonymous, inspectors members can focus solely on the quality of the food, service, and overall dining punting experience, without being swayed by external factors.

While inspectors members can reveal their occupation themselves to close friends and family, other members, their restaurant punting visits are always done incognito. They pay for their meals punt like any other customer and maintain a rigorous schedule, often visiting multiple restaurants and hotels SP's in a single day.

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 :hi:  Been on here about 10 years and in that time Ive seen maybe 2x the number of WG`s than Ive actually reveiwed here out of those I can say only maybe 5-7 in those years out of maybe 250 odd meets has UKP  reveiws been mentioned  AW ones Id say 20 -30 times , those were asking for feedback and I got feed back too from them all positive ...The WGs that mentioned UKP all mentioned it after they had given what Id put as good to Very good service ( Kerry sadly no longer with us and LisaFF were the ones who actively recomended looking for WGs reveiwed on here AW feed back opens doors as some will not see you with out it However reveiws are short and not really trustworthy and open

UKP reveiws are longer (well mine and some lads are ) and give the punters age shape and what they got up to and how it all went they are far more valuble  when spending on a special WG is to be considered as this is an expensive hobby and we arent all Business owners and Lotto or Premium bond winners ;)  I look to follow a few lads who have similar tastes and lads (older like myself) as its a good indication of how ill get treated ...I never bring up UKP I have always feigned ignorance AW you cant as the first thing most girls ask is ..How did you get to hear about me ?.... Viva or AW I always say even after Ive checked out reveiws on here ...Trouble is a moment i am in what could artisticly be called a Jade Period and am banging Chinese WGs in a local flat which changes them sometimes 2x a week so as Fatboy pointed out they are pretty usless unless you go in that day or 2-3 days after they are all blending in to one Suzy Wong like image late 30s Milf so I am too getting Jaded ( forgive pun) I am going to have to have a new target WG to find I started with Big Titted Blondes 40 years ago maybe thats the future these small Chinese women are not built for comfort :D :D :D

Additionally : I know this sounds boring I try never to go with the flow with Service provider I have a set pattern of postions and try to do more or lest the same with each girl maybe with a little extra if they are in to it as it give me a better understand of how they squared up to the last girl in X postion some are great in Thai squating cow girl other do variation and some just kneel over you and grind a bit, I find me standing her froglegged corner of bed gives good idea of thumbing clit and if its good enough to eat ;) doggy holding brests and hips and ability to take rapid pounding ect ...Ill get my anorak Alll Best lads  :drinks:
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Oooh i didnt realise, yeah right  :rolleyes:
You've been on here long enuf & done enough reviews for your claim IMO to be disingenuous
WTF have amazon & TrustP got to do with our fave sport ?
To answer this question .... I was indicating that i use a number of review sites when buying goods, as and when necessary, This is not an exclusive one site only situation.

I do make an extra effort when reviewing both good and bad "SPs", again often using many SP review sites. I do mainly this for the sake of those seeking service, many of whom these are not UKP members.
I see no reason not to posts such reviews on many sites, to sort out the good from the bad, as was my experience with them.
Many punters do not want to post reviews at all, which is not a helpful situation, This can be a "lions den" situation, both here and elsewhere. Poster beware.
I do post multiple reviews using many SP review websites, and will continue to do so, there being no reason why i should not do this.

Other interesting feedback on my posts are noted and appreciated.

The monitoring here, i did not find intrusive in any way. I respect that currently UKP want to keep a "low profile" for reasons that they have. Again I have no intention of mentioning UKP to SPs again.

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WTF have amazon & TrustP got to do with our fave sport ?

TBF I think it was me who first mentioned them  :hi:


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Why did you feel compelled to mention UKP ? Do you think you will get a better service ? And regarding her AW feedback, i can imagine why she would rather fall back on that  :rolleyes:

not at all, we talked on AW and whattsapp for days before the meeting, she has retruned after a 5 year break {still only 29} and i was her 1st meeting so she was a bit nervous as was I, and we left each other AW feedback, she is zero feedback {back after a break} and I said i will do a review on UK as i have had a few good punts through other recomendations etc. No intention of trying to get anything etc just being nice etc. Think in her previous profile she may have had some feedback she didnt like ? who knows

The punt was actually amazing and she is back in my area later August so may visit again   

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not at all, we talked on AW and whattsapp for days before the meeting, she has retruned after a 5 year break {still only 29} and i was her 1st meeting so she was a bit nervous as was I, and we left each other AW feedback, she is zero feedback {back after a break} and I said i will do a review on UK as i have had a few good punts through other recomendations etc. No intention of trying to get anything etc just being nice etc. Think in her previous profile she may have had some feedback she didnt like ? who knows

The punt was actually amazing and she is back in my area later August so may visit again

This bollox about special circumstances detailing UKP
& whats worse you offered it
No minge benefits eh  :rose:  :rolleyes:

As a reminder & as i have previously posted on the subject of SPs asking about UKP ⬇️


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Some of them probably know via pimps or fluffys.
 
if you do mention it and leave a review try not give away any identifiable information , it may come back to bite you.

Oh yes... i didnt say i would leave one, but my AW user name and UKPunt was similar, and she must have been stalking the site for comments. Thankfully the entire communication for the punt was done through AW email so no way of tracing, but boy she was pis*ed off. Even though the punt itself i put as an enthusiastic positive, when asked about her size i said she carried a few pounds and that might not be what you are looking for if you are after skinny girls. Anyway she hit the roof.