Laura - Temptations

[Kool Keef]

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 Bit of a mixed one this, OWO was enjoyable but the rest was a bit so so & I left feeling unsatisfied in the main.

I booked her because I liked the look of the pics on Temptations site & the other parlour sites she works at down south & was in the mood for a PAWG type body.

Pics are representitive, no probs there, booty looked lovely and big, unfortunately didn't get much of a look at it due to how the punt went.

Don't think I really clicked with her tbh.

Kissing was FK, okay  but I prefer more sensual style, BJ was really nice, quite deep, eye contact, ball licking...

Joey on & sex was a bit underwhelming really due to her leg positioning, I felt restricted but didn't feel comfortable saying anything to her about it.
Doggy was a big let down, was looking forward to seeing her arse jiggle and bounce but due to how she positioned herself it didn't happen, I lost interest within a minute or so so moved to the CIM finish which she swallowed.

My punting opportunities are really limited at the moment & i'd waited a few weeks for that one so that added to the disappointment when I left I think

£70 all in.

[Atlas1957]

At least you get a little bit more for your money at Temptations than Divas Delights.

I do wonder how many of the other new WGs there are visitors from down south. Not sure I like the idea of them bringing their southern prices to our nothern parlours.

[LauraHoD]

Thanks for the review. I respect your constructive criticism. I would of been happy to change position. It's better to speak up at the time rather than suffer in silence lol.
 As for bringing southern prices up north...I always 100% respect the prices of the parlour I work at. And I work or have worked all over the country. FYI that service would of been £80 in Milton Keynes or £90 in London. And I actually live much further north than you so don't be fooled by my accent.

Also Atlas I no longer work at Divas one of the reasons being that working two 13hr shifts in a row did make it hard for me to give the kind of service I would like to. That's not an excuse for your neutral review of me but perhaps an explanation. The reason I didn't give much response to that review was because it was too vague. I'm far more responsive to constructive criticism like this reviewer...

I'm not trying to be sarcastic or make anyone feel uncomfortable. I genuinely do want to know if I could do anything to give my clients a better experience. Obviously sometimes people just don't click as you stated.

[Atlas1957]

I like to be very vague and hopefully unrecognisable.

It does feel like the increased prices are coming up in waves, from Stoke to Crewe to the parlours that the Stoke/Crewe WGs seem to prefer in Manchester, such as Ladybirds and Temptations. And the strategy seems to be keeping the basic rate stable but inflating the extras, which I especially dislike as it causes uncertainty on pricing.

Stoke and Crewe themselves have always been popular with WGs from Birmingham and London (and probably other places north and south) as they are major train stations that usually run faster/later runnung trains. The parlours themselves are reasonable walks from said stations.

I also have a theory that if a WG lives somewhere where she can commute to parlours in London, MK, Birmingham, Stoke, Crewe, Manchester and maybe other spots, she knows she can rotate through the options she has, burn through new girl goodwill at each location, then maybe rely on returning girl goodwill for a few more rotations, etc.

I've had some very business-like punts from the majority of southern based WGs I've met with a few good exceptions. Whereas the local scouse/manc WGs are much better at selling me on the (false I know) idea that they just love having sex with all kinds of men (especially me) and getting paid for it is an incidental bonus.

[Kool Keef]

The reason I didn't speak up is because I didn't feel comfortable enough with you to do so, after doing this for a number of years you pick up a punting sixth sense about whether certain things will go down well or not and I guess I didn't  feel it would at the time, just a feeling.

There's a particular reason I think the booking ended up a bit of a damp squib which i'm not gonna go into on here, for a couple of reasons, but if true it was bad luck on my part, under those circumstances I would maybe return to see if the service was better next time & it was just bad luck but there just wasn't enough there in this booking to make me want to rebook tbh.

[Kool Keef]

I like to be very vague and hopefully unrecognisable.

It does feel like the increased prices are coming up in waves, from Stoke to Crewe to the parlours that the Stoke/Crewe WGs seem to prefer in Manchester, such as Ladybirds and Temptations. And the strategy seems to be keeping the basic rate stable but inflating the extras, which I especially dislike as it causes uncertainty on pricing.

Stoke and Crewe themselves have always been popular with WGs from Birmingham and London (and probably other places north and south) as they are major train stations that usually run faster/later runnung trains. The parlours themselves are reasonable walks from said stations.

I also have a theory that if a WG lives somewhere where she can commute to parlours in London, MK, Birmingham, Stoke, Crewe, Manchester and maybe other spots, she knows she can rotate through the options she has, burn through new girl goodwill at each location, then maybe rely on returning girl goodwill for a few more rotations, etc.

I've had some very business-like punts from the majority of southern based WGs I've met with a few good exceptions. Whereas the local scouse/manc WGs are much better at selling me on the (false I know) idea that they just love having sex with all kinds of men (especially me) and getting paid for it is an incidental bonus.

I have a similar record with Southern WGs, particularly from the S.E., just don't tend to click with them in general like I do with WGs from the North.

[LauraHoD]

The reason I didn't speak up is because I didn't feel comfortable enough with you to do so, after doing this for a number of years you pick up a punting sixth sense about whether certain things will go down well or not and I guess I didn't  feel it would at the time, just a feeling.

There's a particular reason I think the booking ended up a bit of a damp squib which i'm not gonna go into on here, for a couple of reasons, but if true it was bad luck on my part, under those circumstances I would maybe return to see if the service was better next time & it was just bad luck but there just wasn't enough there in this booking to make me want to rebook tbh.

I do feel bad that things didn't go as well as you were expecting. Obviously I'm not expecting you to book me again. But I'm not telepathic and I'm very open to being politely directed (I can be quite submissive)

Maybe it is just a North/South thing?! But thinking about it all the neutral reviews I have had in the last year or so have actually been in the West...WEST Midlands, North WEST.....and even Glasgow which is WEST Scotland....
I guess I shouldn't ever work in Wales or Ireland  lol

[LauraHoD]

I've had some very business-like punts from the majority of southern based WGs I've met with a few good exceptions. Whereas the local scouse/manc WGs are much better at selling me on the (false I know) idea that they just love having sex with all kinds of men (especially me) and getting paid for it is an incidental bonus.

Well I do agree to some extent...I'm not sure about  " business like" I prefer "no nonsense ", "down to earth"or "genuine ".
   But yes indeed they really amount to the same thing. I have no hustle!!  I wish I did I would probably have far more regular clients if I gave them the impression that I adored them and couldn't wait to see them again. Over the years I have witnessed both in person and from reading reviews on here that the SP that are always booked solid, its not just about looks and service it's about that hustle.  I worked for years in strip clubs too and had fairly low success because that is really all about the hustle.
  Like you implied you know it's fake but you want to feel desired and I guess that's what I mean when I say "hustle "

I did once actually get a positive review from someone in the Geordie land who's one gripe was my annoying SE accent that grated on him. That made me laugh tbh.

[Kool Keef]

I do feel bad that things didn't go as well as you were expecting. Obviously I'm not expecting you to book me again. But I'm not telepathic and I'm very open to being politely directed (I can be quite submissive)

Maybe it is just a North/South thing?! But thinking about it all the neutral reviews I have had in the last year or so have actually been in the West...WEST Midlands, North WEST.....and even Glasgow which is WEST Scotland....
I guess I shouldn't ever work in Wales or Ireland  lol

I didn't get any submissive vibes from you at all tbh, the opposite in fact, felt a bit of slight passive aggressiveness on a  couple of occasions hence the reason I didn't speak up later on in the booking, i'm not a shrinking violet in the room but i'm also not an idiot who's gonna risk further souring the atmosphere of an already meh booking.

[LauraHoD]

Oh yes I can be kind of sarcastic so that might of been what you picked up on. Maybe it was my accent. Anyway we didn't click for whatever reason.
  But just want to make it clear I'm very happy to take direction. So long as it's respectful it actually makes my job easier if I'm told what to do.
  I'm not trying to start an argument because I did actually feel bad when you said you didn't get to punt much and left feeling unsatisfied. I'm not that arrogant that I think everyone has to think I'm amazing and I can't accept criticism. I'm still glad you think my photos are accurate and you enjoyed the blow job.
 I have had positive reviews that have been far more critical towards me so I'm definitely not offended.

[Upsndowns79]

Thanks to the SP for coming on and discussing the feedback. I have to say it’s refreshing, not defensive and very open and honest.

[TomTank]

I agree.
It's a good thread with some good points made by all parties.

I can see the extras argument from both sides.
With the cost of everything going up working girls will want to make a bit more, and if I were them I would be measuring my earnings against minimum wage, so for selling my body I would want a hell of a lot more than £12 an hour.
At standard £50 per half hour where they get £30, a girl's effective hour rate would vary according to how often she is booked, so on a 10 hour shift (not including maid's tips):

50% "occupancy" would be £15.00 an hour
75% "occupancy" would be £22.50 an hour
90% "occupancy" would be £27.00 an hour

so extras are clearly important to make it an acceptable hourly rate vs minimum wage, especially if it's not very busy.

However, from our point of view we want a fair price, and not to have the piss taken out of us, especially when the girl is trying to make up for it not being busy, or previous customers not having had any extras.

This is where parlours and girls need to be more transparent.
Best example, and i think it applies today, is the old Sandy's model of £50 per half hour - you never got the full half hour, and if you didn't want the £10 OWO you got a poor service.

Sandy's, and these parlours should be more honest and set the price at £60 for a good service that includes most of what we would want - kissing, OWO, bit of domme maybe. Max should be £70 apart from stuff like anal.
That way the customer knows what they are paying and the girl knows what she is making.

Rant over! 

[LauraHoD]

Thank you for your responses.
  We do indeed need to increase prices due to the increasing costs of living. The sex industry prices in general have not really risen in line with inflation over the last few decades. The punters are definitely getting more for their money than they were at the start of the century. I went into more detail about this on another thread.

Also at Temptations (not sure about other parlours) there is a menu or list of prices so its very clear what you need to pay for what services and the SP can't just make it up as she feels like. I usually just ask do you want OWO? Do you want CIM? The other services are more niche. So I feel like if clients want them they will ask.

Personally if I can get an average of £10 extra from each client then I would be happy enough with that but if  I offered more extreme services I would expect more extras. I don't get the impression from reading other reviews that's the SP working there are too pushy for extras. Management don't take a big cut from what you pay at the desk so that probably helps

And I do actually calutale my hourly rate lol...also working in multiple different places it helps me see which places are earning me the most money since they don't always have the same hours I don't compare daily rates anymore

[Blackpool Rock]

Thank you for your responses.
  We do indeed need to increase prices due to the increasing costs of living. The sex industry prices in general have not really risen in line with inflation over the last few decades. The punters are definitely getting more for their money than they were at the start of the century. I went into more detail about this on another thread.

Also at Temptations (not sure about other parlours) there is a menu or list of prices so its very clear what you need to pay for what services and the SP can't just make it up as she feels like. I usually just ask do you want OWO? Do you want CIM? The other services are more niche. So I feel like if clients want them they will ask.

Personally if I can get an average of £10 extra from each client then I would be happy enough with that but if  I offered more extreme services I would expect more extras. I don't get the impression from reading other reviews that's the SP working there are too pushy for extras. Management don't take a big cut from what you pay at the desk so that probably helps

And I do actually calutale my hourly rate lol...also working in multiple different places it helps me see which places are earning me the most money since they don't always have the same hours I don't compare daily rates anymore

I would say that parlours still offer reasonable VFM even if some of the extras have nudged up in price from £10 to £20 etc but some parlours or perhaps specific girls chance their arm and want to charge punters for reverse oral 

90% of my punts were at Temptations back when it was Sandys and it was £50/hh + £10 OWO and + £20 for CIM so my standard punt was either £60 or £80 if I went for the CIM option and I was OK with this although it was my maximum back around 8 years ago when it closed
I believe that's still the same price now so IMO decent VFM given that inflation has been fairly high for a couple of years in between

I wouldn't say that Indi's on AW etc are good VFM though and their prices have risen considerably to cover the increased cost of living etc, I was looking on VS earlier for Blackpool which is one of the most deprived areas in the country and girls advertising as Italian; Latino; Greek etc (So most likely Romanian) are now wanting £80/hh and you know the service will be shit and you will get hit for extras or they don't do XYZ once you are in the room 

I'm not trying to make this yet another thread about prices as there are already plenty but there is a marked difference in VFM (IMO) between parlours which are decent value and Indi's

The problem here for the parlours is that their business has declined due to the rise in Indi's and if they now raise their prices then they get less business, I went to a parlour in Preston about a year ago and the girl on reception used to work at Sandys
There was a lot of chatting and a couple of other girls apparently also worked there briefly, the receptionist then said years ago if you worked a shift you could almost write your own cheque for £400-£600 depending on what extras you offered and some girls were booked solid every shift but nowadays you don't actually know if you will get more than 1 or 2 customers per shift in some parlours

I clearly remember phoning to book a girl as soon as they opened only to be told she was already fully booked and that I needed to book the day before to see X, the day before was usually OK but even then I remember calling fairly early and being told No availability
 

[TomTank]

I think we're okay with it not being another pricing whinge, it's more to do with extras, consistency, and transparency.

As soon as a parlour girl starts adding more than £10 (max £20) per half hour, for anything but anal it's
a) Taking the rate too close to some good indie (especially dungeon) girls
b) Taking the piss in terms of the cost of living increase justification

I also think on an hourly basis, and how many hours I have to work to earn a punt these days is a hell of a lot more, and way above cost of living increases. I'm not lucky enough to be in work that has had COL increases, and just have to work more hours.
The question of whether an extra is per booking, or per 30 minutes of a booking is another vague area - it should be per booking, but it's mostly per 30 minutes because the £10 extra gets the girl to the rate they feel they should be on.

[LauraHoD]

I'm fairly new to working in the north of England and the extras system so I just try to not take the piss by adding  too much but also some clients do seem to think they can pay the bare minimum and get everything. Like if your paying £40 for 15 mins no extras....but then wanting a massage, kissing, RO, multiple positions and shower after!!...I have had explain to some "the service you want isn't the service you are paying for, you want a GFE service. Not a basic quickie)"

But I do get on the other side you don't want to double the price of a service by adding on so many extras(it felt like that at Divas where you could charge £50 or £100 for a 30min service depending on extras).

It's easier when everyone just pays the same £70/80 for half hour and all service is included. That's what I do down south and in Newcastle. But I'm sure that would put off northern clients and like someone said would put us in competition with independent SP. So like I said I just have to respect the local culture of wherever I am working.

[Kool Keef]

This review seems to have been hijacked into a debate about parlour prices, I never complained about the price in the review, just the service 

[TomTank]

This review seems to have been hijacked into a debate about parlour prices, I never complained about the price in the review, just the service 

Because she works South and in Stoke, Atlas made the price comparison, and because the 2 parlours in question have been subject to debate on extras, I chucked my two penneth in. It's very possible that the service is affected by the price though ....

Interestingly it used to work the other way round .... when I used to punt in the Stoke / Crewe area in the 90s, it was noticeable that girls who also worked in Manchester were bringing their prices