GFE - A common extra

[Ali Katt]

We know that some extras are standard in certain industries, but isn't paying extra for GFE a load of shit? I know some men might say I shouldn't speak on what a punter wishes to do or pay for, but last night I was looking at every parlour in South Yorkshire websites and every one had a GFE extra charge, often £20 extra, some "ask the lady in the room". I miss the days when they either did or didn't do a service and it wasn't extra. I have seen adultwork pages where the prossies offer a GFE service for extra and it seems a bad trend that it is becoming a standardised common extra. Many reports I have read said "just a peck on the lips or no kissing, OWO a 2 minute suck etc". The worrying factor is if OWO is £10 extra, it is clear what OWO is and whilst Mrs Sux 'n' fux alot might not do it well or to the punter's standard, it isn't open interpretation. Seriously, what the fuck is GFE really? Is it DFK, is it simply kissing? Is it OWO? Does it include RO? Because IMHO clearly the punters and the girlfriends are clueless. To me it is a crock shit that offers the punter less for more money. Do you agree? It's clear after viewing the reports PN most are willing to pay it? Should we?

[CBPaul]

When I moved from predominantly street punting to indies / incalls, whatever you term it, I naively thought I'd go for GFE 80% of the time and PSE the remaining 20 %. In time I came to realise that they are both a load of bollocks and used to lure punters into believing they will get an all encompassing service. Many profiles are total nonsense in this respect anyway since they offer both 'the ultimate GFE' - catering for the fluffiest of fluffy who will leave really believing they've just been with their real girlfriend AND 'ultimate PSE' based on watching 30 minutes of xhamster.

I soon came to realise it was about what services I wanted and which prossies would provide them, GFE on a profile is just a meaningless acronym.

Paying extra for GFE is stupid, does that mean they do fuck all to start with ? Can't say I'm surprised the PN members are willing to pay for it though as I think it's a move towards the fluffy end of the spectrum.

If a prossie offers oral and sex as standard, which surely she must do, but charges extra for a GFE then the GFE must include what I as a paying punter would want my pseudo girlfriend to do. That could include many different things depending on punter choice, DFK, RO, fingering, CIM and so on.

Not a good trend though, just another way of getting more money for the same service.

[Ali Katt]

Not a good trend though, just another way of getting more money for the same service.

You've summed in one sentence, what took me 20.

[galcom666]

TBH I think the trend is actually the other way. Where more has to be offered as standard. Kind of like airline tickets. A flight to Hong Kong in 1995 was £700. It is still £700.

You can read really old posts of workers who've been at it for a long time. I remember reading one.

She said something about when men knew their place (I hate that phrase even if it refers to men or women). Punters had a choice of an un covered HJ, or covered sex and that was it.

Fast forward to 2014 and a WG who did that for her services would go out of business pretty damned quick.

[sublimetoridiculous]

Fast forward to 2014 and a WG who did that for her services would go out of business pretty damned quick.

There still seem to be plenty of SPs whose modus operandi is to do as little as possible to get you to come as quickly as possible.

They'll get a negative on here, but not all punters read here.

[GreyDave]

GFE

I want one that will take it hard from the start dont suck it gag on it take it up the arse if I am hard enough and then finish with some on her face an tits

My last few GFs licked but never liked it and hated the mess anal noo...way  my other half often says we`ve had quite enough of that you have been getting more ideas from watching porn again ( ) every time I try for the backdoor or offer a face paint free of charge

A gfe is the last on my list I dont like kissing them I mean HP`s dick may of been there 1st

[CBPaul]

GFE

I want one that will take it hard from the start dont suck it gag on it take it up the arse if I am hard enough and then finish with some on her face an tits

My last few GFs licked but never liked it and hated the mess anal noo...way  my other half often says we`ve had quite enough of that you have been getting more ideas from watching porn again ( ) every time I try for the backdoor or offer a face paint free of charge

A gfe is the last on my list I dont like kissing them I mean HP`s dick may of been there 1st

Ah, that'll be the PSE you'll be after then 

Sort of the anti-GFE but still a load of old bollocks.

[galcom666]

Maybe a lot of people don't read this site, however I credit people with the sense not to go back to bad punts, unless they don't know any better.

So sure the SP will skim a lot of people for a short time, but then it'll be a case of dusty phone. Granted they can move around the country a bit and rinse others. But punters also talk, there are several (non UK) WG who have STD. Didn't need the internet to tell me that.

[Ali Katt]

Maybe a lot of people don't read this site, however I credit people with the sense not to go back to bad punts, unless they don't know any better.

So sure the SP will skim a lot of people for a short time, but then it'll be a case of dusty phone. Granted they can move around the country a bit and rinse others. But punters also talk, there are several (non UK) WG who have STD. Didn't need the internet to tell me that.

The sad fact is there's plenty of crap prossies that have been at it for years. Not even hidden feedback and bad reviews put some punters off. If one bad review saves some men some money then it's all worth it.

[CBPaul]

The sad fact is there's plenty of crap prossies that have been at it for years. Not even hidden feedback and bad reviews put some punters off. If one bad review saves some men some money then it's all worth it.

Absolutely, to my mind it's also a case of the prossie not getting the money from a potential punt that makes it worth the effort too.

Maybe a lot of people don't read this site, however I credit people with the sense not to go back to bad punts, unless they don't know any better.

So sure the SP will skim a lot of people for a short time, but then it'll be a case of dusty phone. Granted they can move around the country a bit and rinse others. But punters also talk, there are several (non UK) WG who have STD. Didn't need the internet to tell me that.

You're right, not all read this site but it is getting ever more popular. Others do read here but still get lead by their dicks into seeing prossies that are reported to be bad and have awful profiles that really should be warning enough. And they do it again and again. Some are just plain happy with shit service, or B&S though.

Some prossies are happy enough or willing enough to move about, or be moved about. They cover a big area of the country clearing up on one area before moving on. After several circuits I would imagine that business starts to dry up, at which point a new profile appears, or there is a name change and some fresh pictures, to entice the same punters in the same areas to go back in the vain hope of meeting the sexy girl in the pictures this time and getting the full list of services for 80 quid an hour.

We take the piss out of 'Sergei' but he's not all together stupid, a couple of years ago the scam profiles were easy to spot but 'he's' getting more creative and some profiles now merge into the lower end EE profiles - confusing if that's the market you choose.

The more punters that ignore AW fb and search here the better. The more punters who report bad prossies here the better. At the least punters will get a metaphoric slap back to reality if they post a question about a dodgy looking profile.

At the end of the day prossies and pimps have been scamming punters for a long long while and it isn't going to stop. Their methods change over time but the ultimate aim is the same.

[Quesadilla]

We know that some extras are standard in certain industries, but isn't paying extra for GFE a load of shit?...I have seen adultwork pages where the prossies offer a GFE service for extra and it seems a bad trend that it is becoming a standardised common extra. ...Seriously, what the fuck is GFE really? Is it DFK, is it simply kissing? Is it OWO? Does it include RO? Because IMHO clearly the punters and the girlfriends are clueless. To me it is a crock shit that offers the punter less for more money. Do you agree? It's clear after viewing the reports PN most are willing to pay it? Should we?

I've never been quoted extra for GFE - all the ladies in my HL include it as standard.  GFE is more IMHO about an attitude than a service, you should feel like you've come home from a hard day at work (or wherever) and your girlfriend is going to help you wind down.  It is a bit of a bollox term because some have described WG's who spill their woes to them and waste 20 mins of a punt - well, that sounds like my ex so isn't that a GFE? Even a WG who robs you while you're not looking could be described as a GFE.  Depends on how much of a bitch your girlfriends tend to be doesn't it?

For me I don't really ask for a GFE - I am more interested in a MGIADSE - or a My Girlfriend Is A Dirty Slut Experience. I want the girlfriend I dream I could have rather than a realistic one - one who will be intimate, seductive, sensual, snog my face off with genuine passion, and then let me abuse her body as I see fit - DT / gagging / rimming / a levels etc. 

I've described this to various WGs and never had an issue or been charged extra for anything other than A. 

 

[hendrix]

I don't really know what the GFE/PSE labels mean, and I simply won't pay extra's for anything. It's a guaranteed way for me to pass by a profile. I like to know that everything I might want to do could happen if I feel like it, for the agreed price. This is why I largely stick to a small amount of reg's with very extensive "likes" who know how a "hendrix" punt could go and prepare accordingly

[Quesadilla]

I don't really know what the GFE/PSE labels mean, and I simply won't pay extra's for anything. It's a guaranteed way for me to pass by a profile. I like to know that everything I might want to do could happen if I feel like it, for the agreed price. This is why I largely stick to a small amount of reg's with very extensive "likes" who know how a "hendrix" punt could go and prepare accordingly

Alright when you're a living legend - doesn't work for us plebs ! 

[Dani]

GFE is not an extra as it is a style of service not an actual service.  Its the name given to a service that includes lots of kissing and touching and includes OWO and RO if wanted.  Its basically a service like you would get with a girlfriend.  Its more intimate than a PSE but normally has less extreme services and more vanilla services.  I don't get how anyone can charge extra for a GFE unless what they really mean is they charge extra for kissing as that is the only real difference as on a PSE you don't expect kissing as given