Author Topic: Is there such a thing as "Neutral"  (Read 1750 times)

Offline Natwest

I just wrote a review in East of England section and I decided to call it as "Neutral".

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=353547.0

It wasn't a very scientific study but looking back through a few pages it seems that "Neutral" reviews seem to get the least views and responses. Far more people read Positive and Negative reviews.

I have long wondered if there is such a thing as "Neutral". After all with most punts between £150 and £200 per hour, to walk away not feeling positive is throwing a lot of money away. Again it's not deeply researched but "Neutral" seems to be awarded for

1. Chemistry not quite there
2. Looked good, was friendly but service was patchy
3. Lot of positive reviews but didn't seem to blow you away to the same degree.

Not trying to change the way the forum works but just wondered what the consensus was as to whether a "Neutral" is actually a "Negative" but the punter is a bit too generous and soft to the girl.

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Prior to 2014 the was no neutral option, it was brought in as there was a demand for it. Where a punt wasn't quite good enough for a positive but not quite bad enough to be negative the neutral rating is there. Do you really want to set the site back 10 years.   :unknown:

I don't know how many times this has to be said, but a review is only the opinion of the person posting of how he felt the booking went at the time. Members should read reviews and take what information they find useful and act accordingly.

Just because one punter has posted a negative review for something doesn't mean the lack of that something would be a negative experience for another.


Offline sim0256

tend to agree though would read a neutral or negative review before a positive one.  That's mainly when just perusing rather researching.

Lets face it being ghosted is a defo negative . Lets face it a session with a girl who's not 10/10 looks wise  or is a be shy, or tired or just not into it can be a positive .

It could be said even bad sex is good.

So what does define neutral ??

Offline Natwest

Totally respect that DM. After I posted and looked at the statistics (glancing through pages of latest reviews) it did seem "Neutral" garnered the least responses and views. As I had reviewed a new girl (probably TOFTT) i realised had I posted it with a positive or a negative it was more likely to be read. However, as I don't feel like changing it, perhaps answering my own question. Just wonder why "Neutral" reviews attract the least interest?

Offline Moby Dick

Have you looked at this before:

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The overall rule is “your review, your rating.”
Your rating is your recommendation to other punters about whether to visit. Ratings are summarised in aggregate beneath posts that include the AW link included in your review. Ultimately the impact of your rating on the aggregate will be the only part of your review readers may see - rate accordingly.
Give a positive rating if you want to unequivocally recommend the provider to other punters. If you would repeat the punt as it was, or plan to revisit, you should probably give a positive rating. Many punters believe B&S bookings should not be recorded as a positive rating against original profile, even if you had a good experience. However, the idea of posting a negative review of a positive experience is also misleading. In the end, YR,YR.
Give a neutral rating when you have reservations about recommending the provider to other punters. Describe your reservations in your review.
Give a negative rating as a warning to other punters about the provider. There is a range of opinion about how you should treat dishonesty, misrepresented services, fake pictures and poor value in terms of the overall rating. In these instances, pointing out how you arrived at your rating will leave the punter better informed about whether they want to visit.
« Last Edit: August 27, 2022, 09:13:47 am by Moby Dick »

Offline Natwest

Have you looked at this before:

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I think what I found interesting was not so much the grading (but thank you for the link). Just the variation that it appeared "Neutral" reviews attracted the least interest in terms of "reads" and "posts".

Offline Moby Dick

I think what I found interesting was not so much the grading (but thank you for the link). Just the variation that it appeared "Neutral" reviews attracted the least interest in terms of "reads" and "posts".
Why do you find that interesting? It’s normal human behaviour to pay more interest in the “best or worst”.
The amount of “reads” or “posts” is not significant, and certainly should not be the reason to choose a particular rating.

Offline Natwest

Why do you find that interesting? It’s normal human behaviour to pay more interest in the “best or worst”.
The amount of “reads” or “posts” is not significant, and certainly should not be the reason to choose a particular rating.

Why not find it interesting? Your point is well made but had I not found the topic interesting then I wouldn't have received what you have written. It seems a lot of topics in this section tend to get shot down in flames but it's a topic that has not been debated and so why not debate it? Other people on here might also have interesting thoughts.

Offline JonasG

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Definitely a good option. I've had a few a few neutrals this year.

A WG who delivers the services well but who I didn't fancy or find that attractive for example would be a neutral.

I didn't have a shit time but it's unlikely I'd see her again cos her looks just didn't do it for me that much or just not to my taste etc. (Doesn't mean she's ugly)
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Lets face it being ghosted is a defo negative . Lets face it a session with a girl who's not 10/10 looks wise  or is a be shy, or tired or just not into it can be a positive .

If I received that type of service I'd give it a neutral not a positive, especially if she's not that into it.

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A review is your opinion of an encounter it is nothing to do with chasing views or replies, that would be touting, clickbaiting and trolling.

It's (more than) odd when someone posts an uninspiring review of services and then says something like "it's a positive because she did what was agreed and I think others would like her (services) but I wouldn't return".   

The only person interested in how many views a good review got would be the SP, her fanbois, touts and pimps.
A neg might garner interest from the same perhaps with the intent for damage control.

Offline signy

I think there are two reasons for which I have given a neutral rating, and I think they are valid and would use them again.

1. Where everything was provided as advertised, but for some reason there was no great excitement in the meeting. Possibly due to there being no chemistry bewteen us, or we were both pulling in different directions e.g. in a roleplay. This is not the same as the SP just being lazy or disinterested. It is probably down to communication and expectations, and for a neutral rating would have to be as much my fault as the SP's.

2. Where the preamble is good, and the SP is trying hard, but just isn't very good at the job. Can't fault her for effort, and is a nice person to talk to and doesn't rush me out the door. Really needs to find a different career, or take some advice from other escorts.

When I read a neutral rating from other punters, I pay particular care as to the +ves and -ves that led to that rating to decide if they are important to me.

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There is an argument that the rating itself is not important and maybe not needed  - ok that maybe taking things too far but its what is written, the detail of the review that is important. Guys rating according to what is important to them. It may or may not be important to you or me.

For example, some guys rate down because she doesn't offer owo (and even so when its not offered on a profile), some rate down because they think a lady charges too much - even again when they knew the price before they booked etc.

Surely if you are potentially interested in a lady, you READ all her reviews (well at least the recent one!). if you just quickly glance over the review ratings for the lady, then you haven't done your research very well!

Offline ulstersubbie



2. Where the preamble is good, and the SP is trying hard, but just isn't very good at the job. Can't fault her for effort, and is a nice person to talk to and doesn't rush me out the door. Really needs to find a different career, or take some advice from other escorts.



I totally agree, I have found this with dommes over the years. Some simply don't have the aptitude (if that's the correct word).

Offline threechilliman

There is an argument that the rating itself is not important and maybe not needed  - ok that maybe taking things too far but its what is written, the detail of the review that is important. Guys rating according to what is important to them. It may or may not be important to you or me.

For example, some guys rate down because she doesn't offer owo (and even so when its not offered on a profile), some rate down because they think a lady charges too much - even again when they knew the price before they booked etc.

Surely if you are potentially interested in a lady, you READ all her reviews (well at least the recent one!). if you just quickly glance over the review ratings for the lady, then you haven't done your research very well!

Exactly this for me. Read the reviews and form your own views.

Offline Sh5278

Personally, a 'Neutral' for me is when I can't fault the services/looks of the SP, but left the meet feeling not completely satisfied.

It's really hard to fully describe a 'Neutral' meet but I know it when I have one.

Offline Dipper

Serves a purpose but no “x factor” is how I’d describe my neutrals.

Offline Nagilum

I just wrote a review in East of England section and I decided to call it as "Neutral".

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=353547.0

It wasn't a very scientific study but looking back through a few pages it seems that "Neutral" reviews seem to get the least views and responses. Far more people read Positive and Negative reviews.

I have long wondered if there is such a thing as "Neutral". After all with most punts between £150 and £200 per hour, to walk away not feeling positive is throwing a lot of money away. Again it's not deeply researched but "Neutral" seems to be awarded for

1. Chemistry not quite there
2. Looked good, was friendly but service was patchy
3. Lot of positive reviews but didn't seem to blow you away to the same degree.

Not trying to change the way the forum works but just wondered what the consensus was as to whether a "Neutral" is actually a "Negative" but the punter is a bit too generous and soft to the girl.

Ultimately, its how you feel and never a need to justify it. Neutral has its place in my books and I will give them as a benefit of the doubt and let the punter decide if they wish to proceed. The important thing for me in reviews is detail to make it easier for the punter.

Negative for me has to be stone wall. Services not delieverd, bad attitude, B&S, no show or not putting in the effort. Those can never be Neutral. So yes, it has a place. 

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In theory, yes I think the OP is perfectly correct. At the prices paid, the service should have you coming away feeling great. The ‘guide’ finesses it very cleverly however for those that read it. In practice there’s that — work within the system we have — but also punters’ expectations. I get quite tired of fans kicking up a stink over a negative. Cases where a majority would have given and would give a positive, is it misleading to give a negative??

Whether p4p or Amazon, I mostly note the existence of positive reviews but skip past them to the negatives. The negatives give useful info on important buying decisions. Unless it’s awful, there will always be people singing the praises. I need to know what for me would be a deal-breaker. That’s what comes out in articulate negative reviews. A neutral just means confused thinking on the answer to the question, ‘were you blown away or not?’ But given the system we have, they are what they are. Get used to it.

Offline Munter84

You're parting with a lot of money in the average punt so no wonder the experience tends to be polarising and Positives or Negatives are the norm.

I think being able to differentiate a review into a third Neutral category is very valuable though, as it allows a bit more contextual detail. If negative = "wouldn't recommend under any circumstances" and positive = "unhesitating recommendation", then a Neutral invites the reader to lean in, read a bit more carefully and make their own mind up.

That's what I think anyway! Ultimately it's all subjective.

Offline Moby Dick

As per the puntingwiki guide - reply #4

RED = STOP, don’t Go / WARNING

Neutral = reservations recommending , proceed with caution

GREEN = GO again / recommend

Simple really.

Offline pewpewpew

I think it's pretty simple. If I come away thinking that was great, I want to go back, it's a positive.

If I come away thinking it was ok, not the best but not bad either. She didn't do anything wrong per se, but I just didn't feel it, then it's a neutral.

If I come away re evaluating my life choices it's a negative

Offline wristjob

I tend to go with how I felt when I walked out. For me neutral is usually where she did everything as advertised but there just weren't any fireworks. It can be chemistry, maybe it felt too automatic, maybe I've just seen the girl 1 too many times. In the latter case it likely wouldn't be a review. I guess you can have situations where the girl just wasn't really that attractive in the flesh but gave a good service, I guess that's on me cos maybe i should have walked in those cases.


Offline Thephoenix

My last punt was a neutral.
The girl and the service provided was very good, and gvfm, but even though I'd made an appointment I was kept waiting, there was some texting going on and I didn't get the full hour.
As long as you explain the reasons, neutral is a useful option.