Halifax Bank - Doing a "Ratners"

[Gordon Bennett]

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It's hard to cut through the noise on this story but it does seem that there is building momentum of customers closing their accounts.

Halifax announced there silly twatty pronoun badges on Twitter earlier this week. Some customers called it out as unnecessary virtue signalling and tgen some twerp from Halifax social media department tweeted they were welcome to close their accounts if they didn't like it. Cue a steady stream of people apparently doing just that.

[lillythesavage]

Think you made my mind up, thought of doing so when they closed the branch customers could park at, something to do over the weekend 

[Punterperson1971]

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It's hard to cut through the noise on this story but it does seem that there is building momentum of customers closing their accounts.

Halifax announced there silly twatty pronoun badges on Twitter earlier this week. Some customers called it out as unnecessary virtue signalling and tgen some twerp from Halifax social media department tweeted they were welcome to close their accounts if they didn't like it. Cue a steady stream of people apparently doing just that.

I’m with the Halifax and although it’s very rare I go inside to use the bank I don’t really care what they have on the badges as long as they/he/she or it does their job right been with them for a long time no reason to close accounts over something like this.
Btw this is only my opinion

[pbrown355]

They are saying they don't care what you think. There's nobody else I'd deal with if they showed such a rude disregard for what I might think.

[Gordon Bennett]

I’m with the Halifax and although it’s very rare I go inside to use the bank I don’t really care what they have on the badges as long as they/he/she or it does their job right been with them for a long time no reason to close accounts over something like this.
Btw this is only my opinion

I think it is the guy inviting people to take their business elsewhere that's the issue though, not the nonsense on badges. Lets be frank, I imagine less than 1% of their customers engage on Twitter but I suspect at least half that do will not be impressed with some twerp effectively telling them to fuck off.

[sir wanksalot]

I think it is the guy inviting people to take their business elsewhere that's the issue though, not the nonsense on badges. Lets be frank, I imagine less than 1% of their customers engage on Twitter but I suspect at least half that do will not be impressed with some twerp effectively telling them to fuck off.

I think they "misread the room". People are generally respectful in this country of how people choose to live their lives but they equally don't need to be preached about it or have it shoved down their throat when there is no need. It seems Halifax were jumping on the bandwagon trying to score brownie points and it's backfired on them.

[lamboman]

I think it is the guy inviting people to take their business elsewhere that's the issue though, not the nonsense on badges. Lets be frank, I imagine less than 1% of their customers engage on Twitter but I suspect at least half that do will not be impressed with some twerp effectively telling them to fuck off.

Yes an article in the Telegraph today saying much the same about firms with woke social media feeds that are a law unto themselves.
In a purely business sense this is really bad business.

[Watts.E.Dunn]

Watts.E. Dunn : him/hunk/well hung


Whats not to like;?...

[Colston36]

Yes an article in the Telegraph today saying much the same about firms with woke social media feeds that are a law unto themselves.
In a purely business sense this is really bad business.

The Halifax is REALLY good at bad business. I have an account I never use after wasting time trying to get help or even a word of comprehensible English from poor (no doubt underpaid) souls in the Philippines. Obviously the overpaid slobs who run the bank mistake economy for management.

[LLPunting]

Watts.E. Dunn : him/hunk/well hung


Whats not to like;?...

Go on, wear that into your local branch.

Maybe Metro Bank would be more fruitful?   Still find myself scanning the desks for needy-looking hotties/milfs there everytime I walk past outside, since that story posted to the forum a while back.

[Stevelondon]

Watts.E. Dunn : him/hunk/well hung


Whats not to like;?...

But it has to be truthful 😂

[PepeMAGA]

even if gender theory was legitimate (its not) how rare would it be that you actually had to use the pronouns on the badge? you usually address the teller/ advisor directly. if you dont, you'd be saying from a distance "I spoke to that woman over there last time" without having chance to see the badge.
always good to see this kind of thing knocked back. like the gilette ad telling men (in the video focused on the white men) to do better. think their sales took a big hit after that and the trans shaving ad.

[King Nuts]

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It's hard to cut through the noise on this story but it does seem that there is building momentum of customers closing their accounts.

Good. The trans/pronoun thing has turned into a total racket. All this hectoring has pushed ordinary people away from being broadly tolerant and supportive of their cause, to wanting to switch off every time some infantilising, narcissistic pronoun demand, or daft flag or symbol comes into view.

The Halifax has probably now succeeded in alienating a large chunk of its customer base, and I can only hope they go out of business. Fuck 'em.

[tynetunnel]

I have been ‘encouraged’ to amend my email signature at work to include ‘my’ pronouns. I wont unless they make me and even then it’ll be very vague yet compliant: “he/she/him/her/they/me/whatever I feel like being today” which will help nobody!

I detest all this virtue signalling and hope it causes Halifax pain. Even that Howard the staff member who featured in their well remembered ads in the early 2000’s has described this as ‘disgraceful’ Or, as I prefer, a ‘load of bollocks’. I will continue to assume (as I always have) that you are addressed by the way you look, or how your name implies, unless you advise me otherwise. So by all means if you are Graham Smith but identify as a woman, then add your pronouns and I’ll address you as ‘she’ if that’s what you wish.

[Watts.E.Dunn]

They, Hallifax,  were a shower before this caper started up!

Mind you regret the bank brances closing, there was a south Amercian stunner at Barclays in Cherry Hinton Road cambridge called Amparo, lovely sounding and memorable name!, she it seemed didnt last that long as a casheir what with the fantastic pair she had:)...

[daviemac]

I have been ‘encouraged’ to amend my email signature at work to include ‘my’ pronouns. I wont unless they make me and even then it’ll be very vague yet compliant: “he/she/him/her/they/me/whatever I feel like being today” which will help nobody!

I detest all this virtue signalling and hope it causes Halifax pain. Even that Howard the staff member who featured in their well remembered ads in the early 2000’s has described this as ‘disgraceful’ Or, as I prefer, a ‘load of bollocks’. I will continue to assume (as I always have) that you are addressed by the way you look, or how your name implies, unless you advise me otherwise. So by all means if you are Graham Smith but identify as a woman, then add your pronouns and I’ll address you as ‘she’ if that’s what you wish.

I can understand including a pronoun in an email signature, sometimes I don't even know if it's a man or woman I'm replying to and in the case of a woman if she's a Miss, Ms or Mrs.

Can't see the point of having it on a badge though, I just use the name that's shown and class that as how they want to be addressed.

[Watts.E.Dunn]

The lovely sounding "Mademoiselle" for an unmarried French girl was done away with by the Feministas back in 2012 :-(

[DastardlyDick]

Good. The trans/pronoun thing has turned into a total racket. All this hectoring has pushed ordinary people away from being broadly tolerant and supportive of their cause, to wanting to switch off every time some infantilising, narcissistic pronoun demand, or daft flag or symbol comes into view.

The Halifax has probably now succeeded in alienating a large chunk of its customer base, and I can only hope they go out of business. Fuck 'em.

They're probably hoping that enough of the LGBTQ+ brigade will join them to make up the loss.
I think this can be summed up as either a " First world problem" or a "storm in a teacup".!

[King Nuts]

They're probably hoping that enough of the LGBTQ+ brigade will join them to make up the loss.
I think this can be summed up as either a " First world problem" or a "storm in a teacup".!

Well, here's a question. Does anyone actually know anyone who's in that particular brigade? I don't, and I've spent most of my life working in what could broadly be termed the entertainment business, which is of course known to have more than its fair share of those who bat for a different side.

[RedKettle]

I can understand including a pronoun in an email signature, sometimes I don't even know if it's a man or woman I'm replying to and in the case of a woman if she's a Miss, Ms or Mrs.

I used to think knowing whether to use Miss or Mrs was complicated, little did I know how the world would change......

[Handel2020]

My view of companies like Halifax, Gillette and Sainsburys is that they don't care if they lose customers because they are so profitable. It doesn't really hit them in the pocket. It's like a massive company such as Google being fined one million dollars which is nothing to them. Unless there was some significant hit to their profits they can go with the flow of whatever politics is deemed to be progressive.

There was that Gillette ad a few years ago which gave some message about violence / abuse towards women that caused some people to stop buying their products. Their sales did decline but they blamed it on people growing beards and general trends in the industry. I doubt they would acknowledge it even if the advert had caused sales to decline.

[pbrown355]

King Nuts,
I have been in an industry which is not known for anything other than doing its job. I have, however, known, and know, loads of people from that brigade. So do you whether you're aware of it or not. They are not homogenous, they are all degrees of humanity just like the rest of us who aren't in the brigade.

[King Nuts]

King Nuts,
I have been in an industry which is not known for anything other than doing its job. I have, however, known, and know, loads of people from that brigade. So do you whether you're aware of it or not. They are not homogenous, they are all degrees of humanity just like the rest of us who aren't in the brigade.

I don't doubt you. At the same time, I know several gay people - men and women - who detest the notion of Pride, the marching, the hectoring, the weird flags, and the never-ending, hegemonic alphabet of allegiances and grievances. They don't want to stand out and be counted as people who are different. They don't see themselves as different or demanding privilege or a separate kind of attention. They want to be treated the same as everyone else, with their sexuality neither noticed nor discussed.

[Colston36]

I don't doubt you. At the same time, I know several gay people - men and women - who detest the notion of Pride, the marching, the hectoring, the weird flags, and the never-ending, hegemonic alphabet of allegiances and grievances. They don't want to stand out and be counted as people who are different. They don't see themselves as different or demanding privilege or a separate kind of attention. They want to be treated the same as everyone else, with their sexuality neither noticed nor discussed.

A homosexual friend and colleague, talented and respected in my industry really resented the overt gay campaigning. On the other hand I think it has done a lot of good.

[King Nuts]

A homosexual friend and colleague, talented and respected in my industry really resented the overt gay campaigning. On the other hand I think it has done a lot of good.

It's an interesting question. How much nudging was needed and how much was a change in the law required? Maybe the driver was simply that films and tv and music from he 70s onwards portrayed a much more socially inclusive world.

Either way, Pride has now won the battle. Trains and police cars are painted in rainbow colours. How much more acceptance does Pride want?

Time to let it be, I reckon.