18,000 complaints about shithouse on BBC Newsnight

[Marmalade]

Abbott.
Without a shadow of a doubt.
I actually think Maitlis is pretty hot. And I reckon you'd be lying if you didn't at least want to punishment-fuck her  .

That was a bit too easy wasn't it? 
As for Maitlis I'm not into punishment fucking but I'd be pleased if the Beeb relocated her. Maybe to a farm milking cows far far away from the temptations of broadband.

[Marmalade]

Not being rude now. But I guess pictures are ok.
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From the Daily Mail:
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1 Elizabeth Truss, Conservative, South West Norfolk
2 Owen Patterson, Conservative, North Shropshire
3. Eilidh Whiteford, SNP, Banff and Buchan
4. Luciana Berger, Labour Co-operative, Liverpool Wavertree
5. Esther Mcvey, Conservative, Wirral West
6. Mary Macleod, Conservative, Brentford and Isleworth
7. Anna Soubry, Conservative, Broxtowe
8. Rebecca Harris, Conservative, Castle Point
9. Claire Perry, Conservative, Devizes
10. Penny Mordaunt, Conservative, Portsmouth North
11. Charlotte Leslie, Conservative, Bristol North West
12. Theresa Villiers, Conservative, Chipping Barnet
13. Pamela Nash, Labour, Airdrie and Shotts
14. Catherin McKinnell, Labour, Newcastle upon Tyne North
15. Bridget Phillipson, Labour, Houghton and Sunderland South
16. Heidi Alexander, Labour, Lewisham East
17. Eleanor Laing, Conservative, Epping Forest
18. Nicola Blackwood, Conservative, Oxford West and Abingdon
19. Priti Patel, Conservative, Witham
20. Susan Jones, Labour, Clwyd South

Seems Labour MPs are sensitive souls though so although and got the site banned so let's not push the joke too far lads. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, especially if it's a dark night.

[Marmalade]

The above two posts should be deleted after everyone's read them. 

[tynetunnel]

Abbott.

Without a shadow of a doubt.

I actually think Maitlis is pretty hot. And I reckon you'd be lying if you didn't at least want to punishment-fuck her  .

I find her particularly unattractive 

[winkywanky]

Wouldn't life be boring if we all wanted to fuck the same birds? 

[Handel2020]

Ofcom do indeed regulate the BBC, yet you seem to think it's all a stitch-up because it's totally staffed by ex-BBC?

AFAIK BBC staff are required to follow BBC guidelines, or perhaps they're just there for show?

The clue is in the title. They are "guidelines" and not rules. I have the benefit of having had an email exchange with a BBC news reporter and that is why I stated this clearly in post 13. You replied to it without understanding what I had said.

Ofcom becomes the first independent, external regulator of the BBC on 3 April. Our role is to hold the Corporation to account against the delivery of its public purposes, while its new unitary board will govern and run the BBC.

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I guess the whole gang might be controlled by the BBC as some kind of conspiracy, although if you were to Google the various members of the Board and management Team, perhaps there's a chance you might find someone who's not ex-BBC and not had the BBC Chip-Implant fitted yet? They may even be reachable off-grid via the dark web, who knows?

You admitted yourself in another thread that the media have a liberal bias. My point is that there would be some consequence for having such a bias if Ofcom were impartial. They are not.

I don't see the point in linking to documents on what Ofcom claim to do and then throwing around the conspiracy theory tag. You could call Noam Chomsky a conspiracy theorist but he has a hell of a lot of good points on media bias and the world view held by people who come to work in these organisations. I have made a complaint to Ofcom and reasonably pointed out that a former BBC employee being placed in such an organisation is dubious and leads to a situation they will make decisions favourable to other journalists who hold similar views.

It just happens that the liberal bias you admit the media have doesn't seem to bother you. I am happy with any bullshit label: Russia bot, Alt-right, conspiracy theorist etc. These are all nonsense.

[sparkus]

Wouldn't life be boring if we all wanted to fuck the same birds? 

And a bit of a queue.

[winkywanky]

The clue is in the title. They are "guidelines" and not rules. I have the benefit of having had an email exchange with a BBC news reporter and that is why I stated this clearly in post 13. You replied to it without understanding what I had said.


You admitted yourself in another thread that the media have a liberal bias. My point is that there would be some consequence for having such a bias if Ofcom were impartial. They are not.

I don't see the point in linking to documents on what Ofcom claim to do and then throwing around the conspiracy theory tag. You could call Noam Chomsky a conspiracy theorist but he has a hell of a lot of good points on media bias and the world view held by people who come to work in these organisations. I have made a complaint to Ofcom and reasonably pointed out that a former BBC employee being placed in such an organisation is dubious and leads to a situation they will make decisions favourable to other journalists who hold similar views.

It just happens that the liberal bias you admit the media have doesn't seem to bother you. I am happy with any bullshit label: Russia bot, Alt-right, conspiracy theorist etc. These are all nonsense.

You keep going on about a complaint you made 15yrs ago (when regulation was completely different), you haven't even said what our complaint was about, and perhaps your complaint was bollocks anyway? Why don't you say what it was?

I said there was often a perceived liberal bias, and do you even understand what that means anyway? It doesn't mean a bias towards a political party, it's more like a sociological bias, a kind of benign, well-meaning 'bent'. Such a thing can perhaps be in perceived conflict with a party of any denomination.

It's almost an intangible. Try regulating 'against' that  .

[Marmalade]

Remind me... when is it we can stop paying the fucking license?

[winkywanky]

Not yet, stop whingeing.

Anyway, it's a licence, not a license 

[Marmalade]

Not yet, stop whingeing.

Anyway, it's a licence, not a license 

Very anti-American

[winkywanky]

No, very pro-British 

[Marmalade]

No, very pro-British 

Does being “pro-British” mean correcting what you see as other people’s ‘mistakes’? I thought that was one of the things for which the English were disliked. 

[winkywanky]

Why should we care? Besides, it is UK Punting, after all 

[Handel2020]

You keep going on about a complaint you made 15yrs ago (when regulation was completely different), you haven't even said what our complaint was about, and perhaps your complaint was bollocks anyway? Why don't you say what it was?

I said there was often a perceived liberal bias, and do you even understand what that means anyway?

No. You actually said

I wouldn't say the BBC is aligned to the Left, is anyone here really gonna say there was 'support' for Corbyn from the BBC? But yes, I would say an overall liberal bias.

It's of no consequence to you what my complaint was about, or what my exchange with the BBC journalist was about. The fact is on the "guidelines" and Ofcom I have known as clear as day how the guidelines are ignored for many years, and how Ofcom have a bias towards liberal ideas from British journalists. I found this out the hard way.

As I said, you don't even seem to understand the basics of the lack of rules for BBC journalists which is why you conflate guidelines with rules. I don't say this to put you down but you don't seem to accept points I make like the above one, or even your earlier admissions on points I have made.

It's futile having any exchange with you. Accusing people you don't know of conspiracy theories and "bollocks" is pointless. 

[winkywanky]

No. You actually said
It's of no consequence to you what my complaint was about, or what my exchange with the BBC journalist was about. The fact is on the "guidelines" and Ofcom I have known as clear as day how the guidelines are ignored for many years, and how Ofcom have a bias towards liberal ideas from British journalists. I found this out the hard way.

As I said, you don't even seem to understand the basics of the lack of rules for BBC journalists which is why you conflate guidelines with rules. I don't say this to put you down but you don't seem to accept points I make like the above one, or even your earlier admissions on points I have made.

It's futile having any exchange with you. Accusing people you don't know of conspiracy theories and "bollocks" is pointless. 

How can you criticise here, a response you received from the BBC over your complaint, when you haven't in any way explained what your complaint was?

And you seem to be completely ignoring the fact that Ofcom rules legally override whatever disciplinary guidelines are in place at the BBC. That's not conflation, is it?

You haven't fully explained what went on, so of course it's futile to expect any productive discussion about it.

[Handel2020]

The confusion is yours:

You stated in post #45 that BBC staff are required to follow guidelines - Wrong.

You stated you didn't say the BBC had a liberal bias in another thread - Wrong.


I can't say I'm into these internet barneys, but you clearly contradict yourself and it is there for anyone looking at these threads to go back and see. BBC staff are not required to follow guidelines. They can ignore them if they think they are are justified in doing so. Again, I found this out 15 years back. You don't seem to grasp the fact that Ofcom are not there to rigorously enforce BBC guidelines.

I can say anything here about an email exchange with the BBC or Ofcom without providing full details which could make me identifiable in any case. In any case based on your record in this forum you wouldn't be much of a judge of the finer details of the case.

[winkywanky]

The confusion is yours:

You stated in post #45 that BBC staff are required to follow guidelines - Wrong.

You stated you didn't say the BBC had a liberal bias in another thread - Wrong.


I can't say I'm into these internet barneys, but you clearly contradict yourself and it is there for anyone looking at these threads to go back and see. BBC staff are not required to follow guidelines. They can ignore them if they think they are are justified in doing so. Again, I found this out 15 years back. You don't seem to grasp the fact that Ofcom are not there to rigorously enforce BBC guidelines.

I can say anything here about an email exchange with the BBC or Ofcom without providing full details which could make me identifiable in any case. In any case based on your record in this forum you wouldn't be much of a judge of the finer details of the case.

They are required to follow guidelines, hence Maitlis being reprimanded  .

You simply refuse to give any facts as to your complaint, nor any details re: the reply you received.

Therefore your post about being ignored when you made your alleged complaint is completely meaningless, is it not? 

This isn't a 'barney', you refuse to give any details, you don't need to give personal facts or anything that would give yourself away, you're simply talking bollocks and wanting to receive some kind of approbation from what I can see.

And I keep telling you Ofcom's role has changed in the last 15yrs, I provided a direct link to show that, yet you keep banging on about it.

Complete waste of time.

[NIK]

Robert Moore, ITN's North America correspondent, has just given an incredibly biased anti Trump report. And it isn't the first time.

[bhudda]

Robert Moore, ITN's North America correspondent, has just given an incredibly biased anti Trump report. And it isn't the first time.

Hard to think how anyone could make up stuff about trump and make him seem worse than the truth does

[David1970]

Robert Moore, ITN's North America correspondent, has just given an incredibly biased anti Trump report. And it isn't the first time.

Nik that’s seen from your incredibly biased pro Trump view point, why not watch Fox News they think Trump is wonderful like you.
For anyone who is not biased you should watch Fox News it’s hilarious, I watched it when ever I am the states cheers me up.

[Handel2020]

They are required to follow guidelines, hence Maitlis being reprimanded  .

You simply refuse to give any facts as to your complaint, nor any details re: the reply you received.

Therefore your post about being ignored when you made your alleged complaint is completely meaningless, is it not? 

This isn't a 'barney', you refuse to give any details, you don't need to give personal facts or anything that would give yourself away, you're simply talking bollocks and wanting to receive some kind of approbation from what I can see.

And I keep telling you Ofcom's role has changed in the last 15yrs, I provided a direct link to show that, yet you keep banging on about it.

Complete waste of time.

You're a troll. You didn't even acknowledge your gaffe in admitting the BBC's bias in another thread then denying it.

[tynetunnel]

Remind me... when is it we can stop paying the fucking license?

No license or licence needed for fucking, Marmalade. Not even for a dog or the wireless these days, just the telly and driving 

[winkywanky]

You're a troll. You didn't even acknowledge your gaffe in admitting the BBC's bias in another thread then denying it.

Since you seem to have some deeply-held 15yr-old beef over the BBC, and presumably this isn't simply a complaint over your perceived bias on some programme or other because you're so touchy about it, I can only surmise thay you've been an unwilling subject on Watchdog, or perhaps even Crimewatch?  How long have you been back on the outside?

And you call  a troll?

[NIK]

Nik that’s seen from your incredibly biased pro Trump view point, why not watch Fox News they think Trump is wonderful like you.
For anyone who is not biased you should watch Fox News it’s hilarious, I watched it when ever I am the states cheers me up.

Au contraire, I think Trump is an arrogant thicko. However, the fact that he isn’t clever enough to do the usual bland political speak is refreshing. Even better is the fact that he constantly pisses off the fascist liberal left who actually love ‘hating rather than hoping’.  Anyone  who does that and doesn’t give a fuck about their sensibilities and their attempts to shut down stuff they don’t approve of is to be admired.
And he is unconsciously hilarious. 

[Handel2020]

Since you seem to have some deeply-held 15yr-old beef over the BBC, and presumably this isn't simply a complaint over your perceived bias on some programme or other because you're so touchy about it, I can only surmise thay you've been an unwilling subject on Watchdog, or perhaps even Crimewatch? 

"Presumably..." "Talking bollocks" "Crimewatch" is all troll talk. 

Again, just learn to remember what you have typed in other threads, admit your blunders when I kindly point them out, and be consistent. That might keep you off Crimewatch for trolling.

[winkywanky]

"Presumably..." "Talking bollocks" "Crimewatch" is all troll talk. 

Again, just learn to remember what you have typed in other threads, admit your blunders when I kindly point them out, and be consistent. That might keep you off Crimewatch for trolling.

What the fuck are you on about you tosspot? Liberal bias isn't political bias as I explained to you, but either you're too thick to understand or perhaps you're still sore at your appearance on Crimewatch?

If you have a complaint to make, have the balls to back it up, or just fuck off really 

[daviemac]

You stated in post #45 that BBC staff are required to follow guidelines - Wrong.

These seem like guidelines to me.   

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[winkywanky]

Indeed they are.

But as I keep trying to explain, these days you can complain to Ofcom, the regulatory body in the Uk which presides over all broadcasters here. They are above and beyond whatever the BBC has in place itself.

But for some reason Handel seems to think it's all some kind of BBC conspiracy stitch-up because he didn't get the result he wanted. And in any case, his 'complaint' is from 15yrs ago when things were very different .

[daviemac]

Indeed they are.

But as I keep trying to explain, these days you can complain to Ofcom, the regulatory body in the Uk which presides over all broadcasters here. They are above and beyond whatever the BBC has in place itself.

But for some reason Handel seems to think it's all some kind of BBC conspiracy stitch-up because he didn't get the result he wanted. And in any case, his 'complaint' is from 15yrs ago when things were very different .

Thanks for confirming, I wasn't sure if them stating 'guidelines' in the title and the header was an error.      

[winkywanky]

There's also a full set of Producer's Guidelines which cover every type of programme, and include such gems as not encouraging the public to endanger themselves as a result of watching a programme (don't try this at home), plus countless other gems.

They're probably the most self-regulated broadcasting organisation in existence. Doesn't stop them being tediously right-on and PC a lot of the time, nor does it mean they also always get everything right, either. Every organisation is full of individuals, and unlike a newspaper, not all the content can be run by the editor before printing (in the BBC's case, the DG).

I'm very interested to find out what happened with the Newsnight in question, although many might agree with what Maitlis said in her opening to camera, it rode roughshod through the rulebook. It was very unprofessional of her, and perhaps others, specifically the show editor.

[NIK]

Just having a gander at her on Newsnight - a yawnsville prog I rarely watch. If you take the hair & slap away I reckon you’d reveal a rate minger. 

[King Nuts]

Just having a gander at her on Newsnight - a yawnsville prog I rarely watch. If you take the hair & slap away I reckon you’d reveal a rate minger. 

A rate minger? Have you suddenly developed a Geordie accent?

[tom269u001]

Well said Emily! Sod any guidelines!

[David1970]

A rate minger? Have you suddenly developed a Geordie accent?

Where’s the Grammar Nazi King Nut, get stuck into him.
Or could it be you have a soft spot for Old Nik?

[sparkus]

A rate minger? Have you suddenly developed a Geordie accent?

That'd be "reet", not "rate". Rate would be South Yorkshire or Nottinghamshire.

[bhudda]

Where’s the Grammar Nazi King Nut, get stuck into him.
Or could it be you have a soft spot for Old Nik?

King nut a satanist? Now you mention it it sort of makes sense ...

[NIK]

That'd be "reet", not "rate". Rate would be South Yorkshire or Nottinghamshire.

Or even Derbyshire! 

Serry, sithee, etc, etc.
We old bastards can still recall the dying dialect. 

[king tarzan]

I'm surprised 18,000 people actually watch Newsnight.

I used to love watching Newsnight.. liked Jeremy Paxman..

[Handel2020]

Liberal bias isn't political bias

You are a fuckwitted fool.

[winkywanky]

You are a fuckwitted fool.

Oh do piss off you snivelling wanker.

Post up shit and can't back it up 

[Squire Haggard]

I used to love watching Newsnight.. liked Jeremy Paxman..

He was watchable, and makes Emily Maitlis look like crap. Like others, she's been punted into the post because of her gender.

[NIK]

He was watchable, and makes Emily Maitlis look like crap. Like others, she's been punted into the post because of her gender.

Precisely. From my very infrequent visits to Newsnight they all appear to be female now.

Maybe the Beeb know hardly anyone watches it? 

[king tarzan]

Precisely. From my very infrequent visits to Newsnight they all appear to be female now.

Maybe the Beeb know hardly anyone watches it? 

I used to like Kirsty Wark many many years ago.. very yummy then😋😋👅👅

[winkywanky]

Precisely. From my very infrequent visits to Newsnight they all appear to be female now.

Maybe the Beeb know hardly anyone watches it? 

It may simply be of course, that the BBC are fulfilling their female quotient on a backwater show which nobody watches  .

[Yankee21]

I am delighted to announce the Newsnight team has been nominated for a BAFTA for the
Maitlis and her interview with Prince Andrew 

[winkywanky]

I thought she was pretty crap on that, she didn't probe him half as hard as she would with a politician.

I think the somewhat hopeful BAFTA-nomination is more on the basis that they got the gig to interview him, rather than the interview itself.

[King Nuts]

I thought she was pretty crap on that, she didn't probe him half as hard as she would with a politician.

I think the somewhat hopeful BAFTA-nomination is more on the basis that they got the gig to interview him, rather than the interview itself.

BAFTA's a fucking racket anyway. Who cares what BAFTA thinks or does.

[winkywanky]

The industry daaaahling, the industry   

[NIK]

Not being rude now. But I guess pictures are ok.
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1 Elizabeth Truss, Conservative, South West Norfolk
2 Owen Patterson, Conservative, North Shropshire
3. Eilidh Whiteford, SNP, Banff and Buchan
4. Luciana Berger, Labour Co-operative, Liverpool Wavertree
5. Esther Mcvey, Conservative, Wirral West
6. Mary Macleod, Conservative, Brentford and Isleworth
7. Anna Soubry, Conservative, Broxtowe
8. Rebecca Harris, Conservative, Castle Point
9. Claire Perry, Conservative, Devizes
10. Penny Mordaunt, Conservative, Portsmouth North
11. Charlotte Leslie, Conservative, Bristol North West
12. Theresa Villiers, Conservative, Chipping Barnet
13. Pamela Nash, Labour, Airdrie and Shotts
14. Catherin McKinnell, Labour, Newcastle upon Tyne North
15. Bridget Phillipson, Labour, Houghton and Sunderland South
16. Heidi Alexander, Labour, Lewisham East
17. Eleanor Laing, Conservative, Epping Forest
18. Nicola Blackwood, Conservative, Oxford West and Abingdon
19. Priti Patel, Conservative, Witham
20. Susan Jones, Labour, Clwyd South

Seems Labour MPs are sensitive souls though so although and got the site banned so let's not push the joke too far lads. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, especially if it's a dark night.

Is this a beauty parade?
Might be full of 'diversity', but I reckon the white one wearing the red tie in the middle is the best looking.