How many street girls in Holbeck Leeds? Or Manchester/Liverpool for street scene

[Londoner2000]

I was wondering  how many girls are out on the street typically in
1. Holbeck
2. Manchester Piccadilly
3. Liverpool
 I’ve spent a few hours a day on aw ( attaching screenshots)  and really sick of all the fake profiles, people not replying etc.  i’ve cropped out the images so you can’t see my number, but as you can see only about a quarter of my messages were even replied.  A couple of ones that did reply were romanian bait and switch scams. Even when im willing to pay £100/half hr ( going rate for an English girl in London),  still haven’t found anything close to some of my best street punts from the early 2000s of which the most I ever paid was 20.  At the time there were so many girls around  I don’t know if that’s still the case.  There is no more street scene in London Bournemouth etc  but I was wondering if it still exists in Manchester liverpool or anything nearby? if it’s worth the trip for some good old fashioned fun?

Please don’t post about risks negatives etc I know all that been doing it 20 years. I’m just asking the question thank you.

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[scutty brown]

the more questions you ask, the bigger fucking idiot you become.

Few, if any of the members here visit the places you're asking about

[Londoner2000]

 Look at some of the replies I’ve got from members here, harking back to glory days  and it’s obvious  and what they write that they miss those days.  i’m trying to adapt to the modern world and aw,  but it’s harder than I thought  simply because of the difficulty of finding the Equivalent.

[scutty brown]

life has moved on
the street scene isn't there - unless you're on a deathwish.

go to Shiel Road and you have a choice of english crackwhores or russian gang slavegirls, neither are good for your health

[nightbot]

I'm too young to remember those days (was a teenager in 2000s) but I can't imagine why anyone would miss the days of health/security risks, limited services and consider them glory days. From what I understand girls back then (and right up until Polish girls came into the scene in late 2000s) didn't even kiss let alone DFK. Unless it's the ease of access that you miss.

[Londoner2000]

 I’m a little bit older but not much. I was in my 20s in the 2000s, in my 30s from 2010 onwards.  The thing is there were no health or security risks because people turned a blind eye completely.  There were more services offered arguably  because everyone would kiss  if that’s what you wanted,  and access it made it much easier.   Every town had a red light district, and if you look at the other posts about SPs/street prostitution  there’s a few people who really miss it -  and they talk about how drugs started getting into it and that’s when the police started getting involved, and it went downhill.  It hasn’t  completely disappeared even a couple years ago met some  stunning girls on the street not crackheads  but that area has dried up now .  A lot of the people talking against it have either never done it or have only seen crack whores on the street , And I remember a time when that wasn’t the case.

 There was another post about “ how long ago was your first punt?”   I wrote a reply but didn’t post it  as it was a little bit too emotional  but maybe it’s worth posting it here.

“1995. 25 years bloody hell. I was actually 15 but told the woman I was 17 & she agreed with some hesitation. Russian or Kazakh / Uzbek  woman.

The next time wasn’t a punt ie no sexual contact but in 2003 I picked up a street girl in Bournemouth. She said she was 19 and I was 22 - but when I got close she was probably younger. She was stunning, a 9/10 and innocent but youth was on her side. If she wasn’t on the street and was older I would’ve asked her out. The kind of girl you would marry in a heartbeat. Not a druggie clean veins and lovely, she said it was her first time on the street 5 min before we met and she had never had a client before. I didn’t believe her at first but we talked all night in my car from midnight to sunrise - no money exchanged even though she offered for free I couldn’t bring myself to touch her as it would invalidate my point. I even wrote her a really emotional letter to try to convince her not to start doing it. it feels like yesterday I cannot believe it was 16 years ago.

My 2nd punt ever I was 25 in 2006 Manchester.   My gf had cheated on me with a stranger and I came out of my longest ever relationship 3 months prior. I watched Rocco anal porn every day, lived in total isolation (had never been to Manchester before but moved there to get away), and started drinking 4 beers a night just to get to sleep... anyway I saw a hot Scottish street walker, skinny uni student exactly my type. I fucked her in the ass, taught her how to gape, did a lot of ass to mouth, and I angled my thrusts so the gape got bigger and bigger until gape was the size of a peach 🍑 , then came on her face and tongue (told her how to stick out her tongue), used my fingers to wipe all the cum into her mouth & got her to swallow.

Suddenly, for £10 I was Rocco Siffredi. I paid her £10. Cheaper than a take away pizza or a few liters of Petrol. With my x girlfriend in years we did that once - anal hurt her too much - it was pleasures of the flesh, largely irrelevant, but suddenly my Rocco porn fantasies became reality.

Some of my cum had gone into her eye and it was red. It kind of turned me on more, I had seen Rocco do it deliberately, but also had a post cum guilt pang. After she cleaned up I made her some tea (it was cold out), and my bedsit was absolutely freezing so I gave her the blanket. We hugged for warmth - and then after silence I said “you shouldn’t be in this place”, and she burst into tears. It was real weeping, and I could not console her. I never saw her again.

Aft going from feeling nothing for the three months prior, to a sudden emotional endorphin rollercoaster. Suddenly, I could feel again. Like Rocco, on top of the world. And I felt her pain sorrow and loss. Heroin and crack addicts get  same dopamine receptor response that non addicts get when they have sex.  The girl didn’t do gear, she was not an addict -  but I realized I was.

I went back to the RLD and did it again the next day, and the next. No one else beat the Scottish girl.

Over the next year or two  I went out every single night like an addiction. Probably 1000+ times an average of once or twice a night with 300+ girls from Manchester Liverpool Leeds Glasgow etc. I rented short let flats or bedsits with my own entrance on gumtree and spareroom near the RLDs. There were nights when I speed banged 4/5 street walkers between 10pm-5am -  I was 25 and horny. I was an addict.

But after that I haven’t for the last decade  or whenever I’ve been in a relationship.  I just came out of a relationship last year, went to Thailand  and was disappointed with what happened after a decade.  So I tried the old hunting grounds around the UK  and in 10 years, and what seems the blink of an eye to me they don’t exist anymore.

[nightbot]

Well that's some story I'll give you that, especially about the young girl..that sounds emotional. But I will say this, and with all due respect, you may be looking at it through rose tinted glasses. My point about health risks stands, think about the sort of stuff you did and think about how many girls you did this with. Now think about how many guys those girls did similar stuff with. You with me so far yea?

You say that everyone turned a blind eye to health and security. So now, can you imagine the probability of something going wrong health wise in an era when health checkups, STD awareness and level of precautions were obviously far lower than it is today? You may not have caught anything, but that only removes a fraction from the overall potential probability of what someone else could have caught in an environment like that.

There's also the factor of scams, which again you may not have experienced but it's obviously far more likely to be scammed in a setting like that than it is in the current environment.

Lastly, there's a final factor regarding the girls themseleves who now choose to start doing this, continue to do this and even like doing it. Contrast this to doing a job just to make ends meet everyday, a job they wouldn't be doing if they had food on their plate and a roof over their head without it...a job that even you yourself recommended someone against in the past. It's easy to link the rampant drug use to the poor conditions the girls suffered be it financially or emotionally.  Which one do you think is more likely to provide a better form of experience for both the girl and the client in today's age?

I won't deny that the freedom and the cheapness are lost in time and seem to have their charm, but as someone said in this thread the market has moved on. And the market moved on because there were flaws in the old system that kept piling on each other for years/decades which were eventually incompatible with modern living requirements, otherwise the market would not have changed.

[lpopo]

Ive been down Sheil Road in Liverpool about 10/12 times recently in the evening and there seems to be between 5 and 10 girls around every time. None that you would touch with someone elses shitty stick to be honest. Id defo carry a bottle of dettol with you

[Licking Lizard]

I'm too young to remember those days (was a teenager in 2000s) but I can't imagine why anyone would miss the days of health/security risks, limited services and consider them glory days. From what I understand girls back then (and right up until Polish girls came into the scene in late 2000s) didn't even kiss let alone DFK. Unless it's the ease of access that you miss.

Not sure if the street scene was ever glorious but just because it has dwindled, doesn't mean that the health and limited service has followed suit.

It would probably be the only thesis I'd ever consider writing, comparing the punting scene of the old days to now.  Back then, the choice of where we punters went fishing could pretty much guarantee the quality of WG we could get.  If you wanted a £10 'blowie' or handjob from a scank on the way home after a night out, then cruise the streets.  If you wanted a bit more class and quality, then search the local free media or Daily Sport. But now, with vivastreet and AW, it's a lucky dip.  I've read reports of punters stumping up silly money for the kind of service I'd of expected from the street.  So when I think about it, yes, there are aspects of the 'old days' I miss.  Although the scene was smaller, punters had a lot more control of where to fish and what to expect.   

There are still just as many crack whores in existence today offering a shit service.  It's just that with a cheap smart phone, they can now 'walk the streets' without getting off the couch.  It's now also too easy for opportunist WG's to offer a shit service (or rip punters off) who would never of consider walking the streets because they knew they'd run the risk of a slap if they'd tired it on with the wrong punter.

Also remember that just because a girl doesn't advertise bareback doesn't mean that she doesn't do it.  As a parlour owner told me once, most girls on the game are doing it for reasons we punters would rather not know about.

[Licking Lizard]

I’m a little bit older but not much. I was in my 20s in the 2000s, in my 30s from 2010 onwards.  The thing is there were no health or security risks because people turned a blind eye completely.  There were more services offered arguably  because everyone would kiss  if that’s what you wanted,  and access it made it much easier.   Every town had a red light district, and if you look at the other posts about SPs/street prostitution  there’s a few people who really miss it -  and they talk about how drugs started getting into it and that’s when the police started getting involved, and it went downhill.  It hasn’t  completely disappeared even a couple years ago met some  stunning girls on the street not crackheads  but that area has dried up now .  A lot of the people talking against it have either never done it or have only seen crack whores on the street , And I remember a time when that wasn’t the case.

 There was another post about “ how long ago was your first punt?”   I wrote a reply but didn’t post it  as it was a little bit too emotional  but maybe it’s worth posting it here.

“1995. 25 years bloody hell. I was actually 15 but told the woman I was 17 & she agreed with some hesitation. Russian or Kazakh / Uzbek  woman.

The next time wasn’t a punt ie no sexual contact but in 2003 I picked up a street girl in Bournemouth. She said she was 19 and I was 22 - but when I got close she was probably younger. She was stunning, a 9/10 and innocent but youth was on her side. If she wasn’t on the street and was older I would’ve asked her out. The kind of girl you would marry in a heartbeat. Not a druggie clean veins and lovely, she said it was her first time on the street 5 min before we met and she had never had a client before. I didn’t believe her at first but we talked all night in my car from midnight to sunrise - no money exchanged even though she offered for free I couldn’t bring myself to touch her as it would invalidate my point. I even wrote her a really emotional letter to try to convince her not to start doing it. it feels like yesterday I cannot believe it was 16 years ago.

My 2nd punt ever I was 25 in 2006 Manchester.   My gf had cheated on me with a stranger and I came out of my longest ever relationship 3 months prior. I watched Rocco anal porn every day, lived in total isolation (had never been to Manchester before but moved there to get away), and started drinking 4 beers a night just to get to sleep... anyway I saw a hot Scottish street walker, skinny uni student exactly my type. I fucked her in the ass, taught her how to gape, did a lot of ass to mouth, and I angled my thrusts so the gape got bigger and bigger until gape was the size of a peach 🍑 , then came on her face and tongue (told her how to stick out her tongue), used my fingers to wipe all the cum into her mouth & got her to swallow.

Suddenly, for £10 I was Rocco Siffredi. I paid her £10. Cheaper than a take away pizza or a few liters of Petrol. With my x girlfriend in years we did that once - anal hurt her too much - it was pleasures of the flesh, largely irrelevant, but suddenly my Rocco porn fantasies became reality.

Some of my cum had gone into her eye and it was red. It kind of turned me on more, I had seen Rocco do it deliberately, but also had a post cum guilt pang. After she cleaned up I made her some tea (it was cold out), and my bedsit was absolutely freezing so I gave her the blanket. We hugged for warmth - and then after silence I said “you shouldn’t be in this place”, and she burst into tears. It was real weeping, and I could not console her. I never saw her again.

Aft going from feeling nothing for the three months prior, to a sudden emotional endorphin rollercoaster. Suddenly, I could feel again. Like Rocco, on top of the world. And I felt her pain sorrow and loss. Heroin and crack addicts get  same dopamine receptor response that non addicts get when they have sex.  The girl didn’t do gear, she was not an addict -  but I realized I was.

I went back to the RLD and did it again the next day, and the next. No one else beat the Scottish girl.

Over the next year or two  I went out every single night like an addiction. Probably 1000+ times an average of once or twice a night with 300+ girls from Manchester Liverpool Leeds Glasgow etc. I rented short let flats or bedsits with my own entrance on gumtree and spareroom near the RLDs. There were nights when I speed banged 4/5 street walkers between 10pm-5am -  I was 25 and horny. I was an addict.

But after that I haven’t for the last decade  or whenever I’ve been in a relationship.  I just came out of a relationship last year, went to Thailand  and was disappointed with what happened after a decade.  So I tried the old hunting grounds around the UK  and in 10 years, and what seems the blink of an eye to me they don’t exist anymore.

I'm quite prepared to be shot down by saying this but after reading this as well as your other posts and reviews, you don't come across as being wired up right !

If ever there was a big red alert button, I'd be twatting it with a baseball bat. #scary

[lewisjones23]

I'm quite prepared to be shot down by saying this but after reading this as well as your other posts and reviews, you don't come across as being wired up right !

If ever there was a big red alert button, I'd be twatting it with a baseball bat. #scary

+1 absolute barmpot

[Jonestown]

If the OP’s care worker knew about the shit he is posting on here he would be back in lockdown doing the largactil shuffle in a flash.

[Richthescouser]

I'm quite prepared to be shot down by saying this but after reading this as well as your other posts and reviews, you don't come across as being wired up right !

If ever there was a big red alert button, I'd be twatting it with a baseball bat. #scary

Not sure why you’d be getting shot down. This is someone with some massive issues they need fixing.

[Londoner2000]

Not sure why you’d be getting shot down. This is someone with some massive issues they need fixing.

Lol yes  I agree I do have massive issues that need fixing.  Maybe I watched too much porn  and it fucked me up.  I Went on legalporno.com  and I own HALF The anal videos they’ve ever produced.  Perhaps that speaks volumes in itself.  My point of writing the long thing about first punt was perhaps catharsis.

[wilburs horse]

Nearly always girls out in the evening in Bolton on coe street near where illusions is.

[Londoner2000]

Wow thanks a lot!

[Londoner2000]

But now, with vivastreet and AW, it's a lucky dip.  I've read reports of punters stumping up silly money for the kind of service I'd of expected from the street.  So when I think about it, yes, there are aspects of the 'old days' I miss.  Although the scene was smaller, punters had a lot more control of where to fish and what to expect.   

There are still just as many crack whores in existence today offering a shit service.  It's just that with a cheap smart phone, they can now 'walk the streets' without getting off the couch.  It's now also too easy for opportunist WG's to offer a shit service (or rip punters off) who would never of consider walking the streets because they knew they'd run the risk of a slap if they'd tired it on with the wrong punter.

This is my point exactly thank you. Even paying five or six times as much for the same service I can’t get anything.  Some of the replies said “ all street girls are crackheads” when they are not.  It’s like saying “All fat people are jolly” or any stereotype -  I bet none of those people have been with a single non crack head street girl.  So that’s the problem People jumping to conclusions and talking shit without having gone through my experiences. 

[Norfolkfuntimes]

Too much anal porn can clearly have an effect... 🙄

[Licking Lizard]

This is my point exactly thank you. Even paying five or six times as much for the same service I can’t get anything.  Some of the replies said “ all street girls are crackheads” when they are not.  It’s like saying “All fat people are jolly” or any stereotype -  I bet none of those people have been with a single non crack head street girl.  So that’s the problem People jumping to conclusions and talking shit without having gone through my experiences.

I'll go out on a limb here and say that these days, all street girls are crack heads, and probably the most desperate ones if they cant afford a mobile and a viva street profile.  Either that, or they're coerced.

They days of a normal girl walking the streets for a bit of devilment or fun (like it was 25 to 30 years ago) are well and truly gone.