KazXoX - Canary Wharf

[SamLP]

Kaz seems like a very good SP, and also looks good. However, if every word is gonna be scrutinised with a magnifying glass by her WK, then she'll soon find punters will be put off seeing her.
It won't be her fault of course. One wg already made sure he won't come back to see her, and if this continues another may follow suit if it becomes detrimental to her reputation. Being obsessed is not a good trait, it's bordering on delusional.

[GolfNut]

Exactly, and GN needs to remember why he got banned last time. The WG in question complained to him and he took her word for it and persisted in pushing the agenda that the OP must have upset her until he got banned, and now he's flipping his behaviour over to another punter. Reminds me of pot calling the kettle something.

And who the fuck thought mcfly was a respected member? I certainly didn't and called him out early on which was why he always tried to have a dig at me. He was constantly being called out by other members apart from the fluffy clique that once existed at that time. Respected member my arse.

So you are condoning Claret's actions by all accounts. As expected.  Did you bring your broom with you? 

[SamLP]

So you are condoning Claret's actions by all accounts. As expected.  Did you bring your broom with you? 

No, I'm highlighting your hypocrisy. I addressed your actions and the irony of trying to call someone out for things you've done. The difference between the two was he didn't go out all guns blazing to white knight a WG.

[GolfNut]

No, I'm highlighting your hypocrisy. I addressed your actions and the irony of trying to call someone out for things you've done. The difference between the two was he didn't go out all guns blazing to white knight a WG.

Selective reading. Is that your speciality? 

Maybe try reading it again. I'll summarise for you below to make it easy for you 

The OP had a (very) good punt with a (very) good girl who surprised him somewhat. He later confirmed he'd done the prep but that she still managed to surprised him. I have no gripes or never had any gripes with the review or the reviewer whatsoever. End of.

The fun started with the London clique jumping in trying to twist my words into White Knighting which is about a million miles from the facts.

Mr Claret brazenly announced to the world that he had merrily been reading emails I'd sent to Ameera some while ago.

We're still waiting for a response from Mr Claret about the why's and wherefore's and I assume he'll try and play it down, or deny it altogether even though his posts are there for all to see.

Something I've done? I doubt it pal.

[smiths]

Kaz seems like a very good SP, and also looks good. However, if every word is gonna be scrutinised with a magnifying glass by her WK, then she'll soon find punters will be put off seeing her.
It won't be her fault of course. One wg already made sure he won't come back to see her, and if this continues another may follow suit if it becomes detrimental to her reputation. Being obsessed is not a good trait, it's bordering on delusional.

Indeed, the white knight is trying to divert attention off himself here of course, he says his allegations about Claret will be swept under the carpet which is insulting to admin, if there is evidence of rule breaking admin will deal with it as he sees fit. Doesn't change the fact he is a white knight fan boy with previous including a ban for being one.

[SamLP]

Selective reading. Is that your speciality? 

Maybe try reading it again. I'll summarise for you below to make it easy for you 

The OP had a (very) good punt with a (very) good girl who surprised him somewhat. He later confirmed he'd done the prep but that she still managed to surprised him. I have no gripes or never had any gripes with the review or the reviewer whatsoever. End of.

The fun started with the London clique jumping in trying to twist my words into White Knighting which is about a million miles from the facts.

Mr Claret brazenly announced to the world that he had merrily been reading emails I'd sent to Ameera some while ago.

We're still waiting for a response from Mr Claret about the why's and wherefore's and I assume he'll try and play it down, or deny it altogether even though his posts are there for all to see.

Something I've done? I doubt it pal.

I read and understood everything. No clique jumped in. It was in fact the OP and hendrix who first told you to calm down before you continued lecturing them on how to be specific if they wanted certain services prior to the punt when all the OP did was claim surprise at something he didn't expect. Everyone else managed to understand that except for you who somehow seemed blinded with the fear that your current favourite may be criticised for doing something wrong when it was far from the case.

As for the rest, I pointed out your hypocrisy on the matter. If he did indeed read any emails, then it would be the wg's fault for showing him rather than his for reading it IMO, however he never said he read them. I read his posts and they refer to them so they could have been read to him or been told about them. He can clarify it if he wants, but really I wasn't getting involve the ins and outs, and more into your hypocrisy. He never white knighted anyone, but that's something you have a habit of doing.

[smiths]

Selective reading. Is that your speciality? 

Maybe try reading it again. I'll summarise for you below to make it easy for you 

The OP had a (very) good punt with a (very) good girl who surprised him somewhat. He later confirmed he'd done the prep but that she still managed to surprised him. I have no gripes or never had any gripes with the review or the reviewer whatsoever. End of.

The fun started with the London clique jumping in trying to twist my words into White Knighting which is about a million miles from the facts.

Mr Claret brazenly announced to the world that he had merrily been reading emails I'd sent to Ameera some while ago.

We're still waiting for a response from Mr Claret about the why's and wherefore's and I assume he'll try and play it down, or deny it altogether even though his posts are there for all to see.

Something I've done? I doubt it pal.

You ARE a white knight and were banned for being so, nothing you post changes that, so its not a million miles from any facts, it IS a fact.

[GolfNut]

You ARE a white knight and were banned for being so, nothing you post changes that, so its not a million miles from any facts, it IS a fact.

The record's still stuck. Here comes Smith with his broom as expected. 

[smiths]

The record's still stuck. Here comes Smith with his broom as expected. 

Just stating a fact unlike you.

[GolfNut]

Just stating a fact unlike you.

Sweeps here. Where's Sooty?? 

[GolfNut]

Just stating a fact unlike you.

To quote Eurypides: "Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish."

or in your case "Talk sense to a fool and he calls you a White Knight."

[smiths]

Sweeps here. Where's Sooty?? 

Feeble, you think belittling me is going to have any affect. A classic case of a poster never learning despite 2 bannings, one for being a white knight which you deny you are, yet again you couldn't make it up.

[GolfNut]

Feeble, you think belittling me is going to have any affect. A classic case of a poster never learning despite 2 bannings, one for being a white knight which you deny you are, yet again you couldn't make it up.

Please explain how it possible for someone to White Knight on a positive review by someone else?

Indeed I may have been banned for a while but clearly if I was the pariah you seem to believe me to be I would have been permanently banned many moons ago.

I only seem to come into conflict with other members on the London Board which is probably because some of you are so up each others arses that anyone with a different opinion is regarded as a WK. Your default name calling position.

So your attempt to deflect the issue of Mr Claret's surreptitious activities will not deter me from seeing this through.

 

[smiths]

Please explain how it possible for someone to White Knight on a positive review by someone else?

Indeed I may have been banned for a while but clearly if I was the pariah you seem to believe me to be I would have been permanently banned many moons ago.

I only seem to come into conflict with other members on the London Board which is probably because some of you are so up each others arses that anyone with a different opinion is regarded as a WK. Your default name calling position.

So your attempt to deflect the issue of Mr Claret's surreptitious activities will not deter me from seeing this through.

 

I am not deflecting anything in reality, I have stated if you have evidence admin will look at it and decide as suits him. That's a separate issue to you being a white knight which you deny, yet that was what you were banned for, so you are denying a fact.

[GolfNut]

I am not deflecting anything in reality, I have stated if you have evidence admin will look at it and decide as suits him. That's a separate issue to you being a white knight which you deny, yet that was what you were banned for, so you are denying a fact.

The evidence has been posted if you care to look. Do you want me to post it to you? 

You appear to be deflecting the serious matter of claret's activities back to my apparent historical White Knighting in an attempt to sweep it under the carpet as I knew you and others would and rightly predicted.

You are so predictable that I predict your next or subsequent posts contains the words White and Knight somewhere in it.   

[smiths]

The evidence has been posted if you care to look. Do you want me to post it to you? 

You appear to be deflecting the serious matter of claret's activities back to my apparent historical White Knighting in an attempt to sweep it under the carpet as I knew you and others would and rightly predicted.

You are so predictable that I predict your next or subsequent posts contains the words White and Knight somewhere in it.   

Its apparent historical white knighting is it, classic, thanks for the chuckle.

[GolfNut]

Its apparent historical white knighting is it, classic, thanks for the chuckle.

I wish it was as easy to predict the lottery as it is to what you are going to say smiths.

Please continue it's better than counting sheep! 

[smiths]

I wish it was as easy to predict the lottery as it is to what you are going to say smiths.

Please continue it's better than counting sheep! 

Apparent historical white knighting, that's a new one on me, I am still chuckling so thanks for that.

[GolfNut]

Everyone else managed to understand that except for you who somehow seemed blinded with the fear that your current favourite may be criticised for doing something wrong when it was far from the case.

Why would I be concerned?  He had a better punt than expected did he not?

Just because I stuck up for Kaz on her negative, does not preclude me from commenting given my knowledge of her and her services to help other punters make informed decisions about her and her capabilities. Does it?

If he did indeed read any emails, then it would be the wg's fault for showing him rather than his for reading it IMO, however he never said he read them. I read his posts and they refer to them so they could have been read to him or been told about them. He can clarify it if he wants, but really I wasn't getting involve the ins and outs, and more into your hypocrisy. He never white knighted anyone, but that's something you have a habit of doing.

If he did indeed? He stated he read my emails 4 times!

Clearly another sweeper trying to clear up a mess his buddy has got himself into! 

[GolfNut]

Apparent historical white knighting, that's a new one on me, I am still chuckling so thanks for that.

Were you bullied at school smiths? 

[SamLP]

You're boring. Repeating the same mantra and trying hard to impose your failed arguments.
You keep mentioning you only have problems with the London punters when clearly there are other punters from other regions who also have commented on this and other reviews and you've also decided to have digs at them. Saying something untruthful will always come back to bite you. You question why you would need to white knight on a positive. I think we all had the same impression and question earlier when you're confused mind needed to be explicitly told by the OP much later in the review that he had no issues even if it had been as vanilla as he went in expecting before you calmed down, but of course you quickly deflected from your own actions to try and place the spotlight on another. You seem to have previous form with bad attitude towards wg's when you don't get what you want and also seem to get into a lot of squabbles with punters, but of course you'll keep insisting everyone has a problem with you, despite you being banned several times before. It would be better for you to reel it in rather than to keep digging. This time I won't bother responding to a PM with an apology and admittance to being a white knight.

[monstar]

Selective reading. Is that your speciality? 

Maybe try reading it again. I'll summarise for you below to make it easy for you 

The OP had a (very) good punt with a (very) good girl who surprised him somewhat. He later confirmed he'd done the prep but that she still managed to surprised him. I have no gripes or never had any gripes with the review or the reviewer whatsoever. End of.

The fun started with the London clique jumping in trying to twist my words into White Knighting which is about a million miles from the facts.

Mr Claret brazenly announced to the world that he had merrily been reading emails I'd sent to Ameera some while ago.

We're still waiting for a response from Mr Claret about the why's and wherefore's and I assume he'll try and play it down, or deny it altogether even though his posts are there for all to see.

Something I've done? I doubt it pal.

You would have been wise to take a step back many posts ago, or now, but it's your choice. 

I recently met Kaz and had a very good time, but was also surprised she can be full on and naughty past the vanilla GFE I expected from her previous reviews and profile - lesson happily learnt. 

Ultimately this was also my mistake but I wouldn't appreciate your aggressive post pointing it out, which comes across as white knighting a potential minor negative point for a girl you have previously unnecessarily defended up to a temporary ban. You have now stated this is not the case, miscommunication happens, move on.

On the other point, C&B never said he read your emails sent to Ameera.

Punters excessively accusing and attacking others often ends in the same result, 'banned' under their own name.

What happens next, I believe is up to you. 

Back on topic - nice review, thanks OFJ and useful info for those seeking more than a vanilla GFE. 

[claretandblue]

Gulfnut you really are a bellend, why did you bring ameeras name into this thread?

I never asked to see emails, she happened to show me something post punt as she mentioned how you were harassing her because she didn't want to see you,what I saw in black and white supported what she was saying!

You didn't like that as I recall,and I still have the pm message you sent me warning me that things "wouldn't end well" if I continued discussing  it 

As I said I have no interest in what you have been upto since but you are clearly a wrong un

[claretandblue]

Just to make very clear this was shown to me in passing ,I never saw and would have absolutely zero interest in seeing another punter's awank profile number or punting phone number as this lowlife clown is suggesting. ...

Also to reiterate this episode of his with ameera was ages ago so his fake concern/outrage is simply a very poor way of trying to deflect attention from his dodgy activities 

[GolfNut]

Nice try Claret. You forgot to mention that she hadn't read my last message to her until I posted on her review. After which she replied within minutes.

That means you must have been sat with her while you were posting in order to have read it. Or in direct communication with her as I was posting. Definitely no White Knight there then. 

And the message or messages were shown to you "in passing" for exactly WHAT purpose by Ameera?

Any NORMAL punter at that point would have refrained from getting involved. A White Knight on the other hand.....

I think the saying goes, it takes one to know one. Although I have never read another punters emails to a wg.

[hendrix]

I never asked to see emails, she happened to show me something post punt as she mentioned how you were harassing her because she didn't want to see you,what I saw in black and white supported what she was saying!

Thanks for clarifying C&B - this makes sense to me now with regards to why she'd even show you emails 

[claretandblue]

Nice try Claret. You forgot to mention that she hadn't read my last message to her until I posted on her review. After which she replied within minutes.

That means you must have been sat with her while you were posting in order to have read it. Or in direct communication with her as I was posting. Definitely no White Knight there then. 

And the message or messages were shown to you "in passing" for exactly WHAT purpose by Ameera?

Any NORMAL punter at that point would have refrained from getting involved. A White Knight on the other hand.....

I think the saying goes, it takes one to know one. Although I have never read another punters emails to a wg.

I was getting dressed and she mentioned what an absolute cock you were and showed me a message on her phone, probably lasted about 30 seconds but it was long enough for me to judge what a peculiar bloke you are 

Interesting that you have ignored my point about your frankly laughable attempt to threaten me previously by pm 

As for posting on here while I was with her?Laughable, as any sensible,established punter on here knows I am strictly a punting phone man so wouldn't be sitting there sending messages on ukp as it's an old Nokia style brick!

Anyway I am done explaining myself as I know I did nothing wrong and you are just using it to deflect attention from yourself, you won't take it,but I would suggest you toodle on off to the midlands board while you still have the chance 

[smiths]

Nice try Claret. You forgot to mention that she hadn't read my last message to her until I posted on her review. After which she replied within minutes.

That means you must have been sat with her while you were posting in order to have read it. Or in direct communication with her as I was posting. Definitely no White Knight there then. 

And the message or messages were shown to you "in passing" for exactly WHAT purpose by Ameera?

Any NORMAL punter at that point would have refrained from getting involved. A White Knight on the other hand.....

I think the saying goes, it takes one to know one. Although I have never read another punters emails to a wg.

It takes one to know one, so no longer an apparent historical white knight, but now an admittance you are a white knight, just as I have posted, and for what you were banned for being. Got their in the end.

[OutForJustice80]

Just waiting for someone to come back with "I know you are, I said you are so what am I" or "I'm rubber and you're glue".

[erutico]

Shit lads. Why this cringey fkin' drama?

[Titi]

Just waiting for someone to come back with "I know you are, I said you are so what am I" or "I'm rubber and you're glue".

Yea just skimmed through the whole thread and boy some ppl love drama. UKE is littered with this kind of nonsense. I think sometimes ppl lose track that punting is thrill seeking and meant to be fun not melodramatic.

[hsn23]

Just waiting for someone to come back with "I know you are, I said you are so what am I" or "I'm rubber and you're glue".