Clearing up misconceptions about Ukraine.

[Bennygraff]

So I saw a post on here with some ludicrous assumptions and ideas about Ukraine. I run tours of Ukraine and often get asked to find girls.

Let me start.

Price for 1 hour outcall from an average girl is around £40. Plus around 5 for a taxi. Prices do range from around £25-150 depending on where you look and what you want. CIM, anal etc usually costs around 40-60 extra.

One problem is you'll struggle to find an independent escort (if any) however the agencies do have some high quality girls! But there are a lot of girls! They speak an average level of English.

Flights are around £40-100 return depending when you book and what date. (January-June) being cheapest

You can get a nice apartment for around £20-40 a night sometimes less. I've found many for £15 that were very nice.

Taxis are very cheap at around 30p a mile.

These prices are in Kiev. Plesse ask if you want to know more!

[Hertsgent]

Fuck me - is that Touting with a Capital T ? 

[Bennygraff]

Not at all.
Previous post suggested flights were hundreds of pounds and that hotels were 50 a night! You are free to ask any questions.

[Azucar D Artagnan]

You are free to ask any questions.

Geographically how big is Kiev and how easy is it to travel around ? Is it viable to see a SP in the Northern Suburbs and then travel to see another in the Southern Suburbs . Is there a massage parlour scene there ? Is there anything there like German Laufhauses or FKKs ?

 Thanks in advance 

[Bennygraff]

Hi mate, not totally sure what you're asking but I'll answer as well as I can.
Ukraine is east to get around, and cheap. You can get to one end of the country to another for approximately 5-20 pounds depending on if you want to travel first, second or third class... for example I travelled for 15 hours on a train few weeks back and it cost me 7 quid.

Massage parlours that offer sex are illegal. Only erotic and sensual massages. There are various sites you can use for outcalls (both erotic and escort services) the best and most reliable being "backpage Ukraine"

[Bennygraff]

Kiev is a large city. The best way to travel is via the metro service at around 10p to enter the metro. You can get around the city well.

Alternatively a taxi from one side to the other will be around 3-4 quid! Best to use Uber in Kyiv to avoid being ripped off.

[Bennygraff]

There are red light districts and street hookers. But remember it's illegal. Ukraine compensates for this by being extremely cheap, as stated its really cheap. Apartments are 15-20 quid and an outcall for 1 hour is 40 quid. Bottle of vodka is a few quid! Food is cheap and drink..

[adindas]

There are red light districts and street hookers. But remember it's illegal. Ukraine compensates for this by being extremely cheap, as stated its really cheap. Apartments are 15-20 quid and an outcall for 1 hour is 40 quid. Bottle of vodka is a few quid! Food is cheap and drink..

Too good to be true. But I am not ruling out that it could turn to be true. Just need more scrutiny to avoid misleading or wasting people time ...

Any link for outcall ???
Any link for apartment 15-20 quid ??
What about peoplewho are reporting Ukraine on ISG are they idiots want to pay more if they could get it for £40 an hour where is the catch ??

[elihd]

Its definitely cheaper than the UK i don't doubt that however i don't think its going to be as easy as the OP put it, especially if you don't speak Russian or the local tongue. Plus as the op stated above £40 is just for suck and fuck for the majority no cim, nor fk. Lastly if you're not Caucasian its gonna be even harder.

[adindas]

Its definitely cheaper than the UK i don't doubt that however i don't think its going to be as easy as the OP put it, especially if you don't speak Russian or the local tongue. Plus as the op stated above £40 is just for suck and fuck for the majority no cim, nor fk. Lastly if you're not Caucasian its gonna be even harder.

No doubt it is cheaper than the UK also I have no doubt people could get the price quoted by the OP but people must be extremely lucky.
I just check the flight from London to Kiev using sky scanner a few minutes ago, all from January until June the cheapest I could get was around £90 return. This is already the cheapest one and to get this price of £90 people must be already very lucky and flexible of the day of traveling. Otherwise prepare to average price that people are paying of around £200.
Regarding price of escort of £40, you could also easily get Escort from odloty for less than £40. But while it is quoted one hour, the price is actually one cum. If you do not come within 15 minutes they will tell you the time is up. Also everything is extra.
To get this price people might be expected to speak basic local languange

[agcnospam]

Interesting thread and looks like a good idea for some fun with amazing looking girls.

One other factor that needs to be considered in terms of the prices is that the local currency has nosedived against GBP (as well as USD and EUR) over the last few years, for various reasons. For example, you got around 13 Hryvnia (UAH) for £1 around Christmas 2013, whereas now you get around 32 to the pound.

Although this is not always reflect in travel prices, it makes it much cheaper to be in the country and to buy goods and services there. Also Ukraine has had economic problems for a while and the prices were lower than the UK for many things before the latest currency shifts. To give further context, the average salary in Ukraine in July 2016 was $188 per month (USD to UAH conversion rate at the time)

Thanks to the OP for the post, everything he says sounds credible to me (I also have some experience of that region) and this could be a great opportunity to punt some of the hottest girls in the world, at decent prices (even with the extras).

[nigel4498]

You are free to ask any questions.

I will be visiting Vinnista around Easter time.
Any idea re the punting scene in that city?

[adindas]

I am aware that many social media to meet girls are infected by dating agency, escort services as well as fraudsters.

Does anyone know the good social media to get connected with "independent" Ukrainian girls ??

I will appreciate the response from people who have tried it or the links where the independent people share their experience. If you could mention the average time that need to be invested to get one of them and the likely success rate, it will be great ....

[MilleMiglia]

I am aware that many social media to meet girls are infected by dating agency, escort services as well as fraudsters.

Does anyone know the good social media to get connected with "independent" Ukrainian girls ??

I will appreciate the response from people who have tried it or the links where the independent people share their experience. If you could mention the average time that need to be invested to get one of them and the likely success rate, it will be great ....

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These guys know their stuff. I haven't read it myself, but other threads are well written and informative.