UK sentencing

[Stevelondon]

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Sentencing in this country baffles me.

[Doc Holliday]

Sentencing in this country baffles me.

That is because it can be extremely complex and this is one such case.

As I have posted many times before it is always better to read the Judge's sentencing remarks than rely on MSM headlines.

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This one is especially complicated. IMO the real issue here once again relates to mental health services. It is service which is both failing those who are ill and as a result failing those others who are impacted.

It is also a system which over relies on compliance by the patient. In many instances (as is now the case with this individual) patients are not hospitalised when they should be. One of the reasons for this is the lack of such availability.

[scutty brown]

With a decision like that he could actually be locked up for longer than if he was found guilty of murder. Depending on how he develops, he may never get out. It's certainly not an "easy" sentence

[Strawberry]

That is because it can be extremely complex and this is one such case.

As I have posted many times before it is always better to read the Judge's sentencing remarks than rely on MSM headlines.

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This one is especially complicated. IMO the real issue here once again relates to mental health services. It is service which is both failing those who are ill and as a result failing those others who are impacted.

It is also a system which over relies on compliance by the patient. In many instances (as is now the case with this individual) patients are not hospitalised when they should be. One of the reasons for this is the lack of such availability.

Interesting read.

Have you read about the Travelodge killing, the family initiated their own inquest, horrific and sad - could have potentially have been prevented at several points;

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[Pillowtalk]

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Sentencing in this country baffles me.

The Daily Mail baffles me. What is the point of it?

[Blackpool Rock]

The Daily Mail baffles me. What is the point of it?

It's cheaper than bog roll but just be careful the print doesn't come off or you'll have more shit on your arse than before you started 

[JontyR]

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Sentencing in this country baffles me.

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[mills_and_bhuna]

The Daily Mail baffles me. What is the point of it?

You kind of answered your own question.
It's there to push an agenda and give you simple answers to challenging questions
Spoiler alert...there are no simple answers.

[Strawberry]

The Daily Mail baffles me. What is the point of it?

Click bait before the term was ever invented, oh and of course selling advertising.

[JontyR]

Click bait before the term was ever invented, oh and of course selling advertising.

The point of all commercial media is to fill the gaps between the adverts attracting the biggest audience for them as possible.

[Stevelondon]

Sentencing in this country still baffles me and yes I have read quite a lot on this particular case thanks very much.

Complex……….. it always is.

It’s always someone else’s failure.
The guilty party in this instance deciding NOT to take the medication that might stop him from becoming a killer.

Who knew.

Hospitalisation best for him after the event. Will he get to decide if he takes his meds or not.

Oops…… too late.

[Doc Holliday]

Interesting read.

Have you read about the Travelodge killing, the family initiated their own inquest, horrific and sad - could have potentially have been prevented at several points;

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Thanks that is another interesting case which highlights similar issues and links quite well with this case 

[Doc Holliday]

Sentencing in this country still baffles me and yes I have read quite a lot on this particular case thanks very much.

Complex……….. it always is.

It’s always someone else’s failure.
The guilty party in this instance deciding NOT to take the medication that might stop him from becoming a killer.

Who knew.

Hospitalisation best for him after the event. Will he get to decide if he takes his meds or not.

Oops…… too late.

That's a very cynical view Steve. Mental illness is not easy to treat. Treatment options are limited in comparison to physical illness.

Unlike the latter compliance with medication is a huge issue. Most commonly lack of compliance is only a danger to themselves, but where people pose a danger to others we have to have adequate systems to prevent this