Author Topic: Why are men so unhealthy?  (Read 2138 times)

Offline RandomGuy99

BBC News - Why men are so unhealthy - and what can be done
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Offline hairdownthere

You should visit my neck of the woods, the general state of the women make all the men look like Adonis.

It's embarrassing the state some people let themselves get into

Offline Munter84

In a way that's a bit of a clickbaity title. It could just as easily have been titled "Why are people so unhealthy"; most women aren't exactly Olympians either. Women have similar rates of obesity to men, almost as high a prevalence of smoking, and rapidly closing the gap for alcoholism.

Anyway, I think there are sex-specific factors at play here, although this article unhelpfully rolls them all together: genetic predispositions, lifestyle choices, career, mental health and suicide, engagement with health services. It's not unheard of for young men to have lifestyles that on the surface are impeccably clean and ascetic, only to one day snuff themselves out through suicide or misadventure: did this person live a healthy or unhealthy life? There are at least a couple of metrics that could be used.

Without wanting to devolve this into a long, bitter Manosphere-style rant I suspect most of the sex differences, both in health and lifespan, are mostly social in nature. There's a vicious cycle in play where men are less likely to practice self care, pursue careers in certain fields, or access certain types of help, and in turn the system remains stacked against those that do try bucking the trend. I could give the example of my own attempt to access NHS mental health support when at my lowest ebb ("Hello, are you suicidal? No? We'll send you a photocopied A4 page on mindfulness in the post, good luck"). I could point out the way that men are encouraged to open up about their feelings and show emotion, but are invariably mocked or ostracised when they do (frequently by women). Disparities in criminal sentencing, usually based on the circular reasoning that women are primary caregivers. And so on.

Offline PepeMAGA

"He says there are biological reasons – the male immune system is less able to fight off infection. But, as the story of the young man seeking condoms above demonstrates, they can also lack the skills to access health services."

 Yes, men don't have the skills to go to a reception kiosk or pick up a phone.

Offline Adoniron

"He says there are biological reasons – the male immune system is less able to fight off infection. But, as the story of the young man seeking condoms above demonstrates, they can also lack the skills to access health services."

 Yes, men don't have the skills to go to a reception kiosk or pick up a phone.

Some young men can barely strong a sentence together.

Offline RandomGuy99

Some young men can barely strong a sentence together.
Even the older ones too  :D

Offline radioman33

The Gen Z lot won’t have seen smoking in pubs and don’t drink or smoke like the older generation.

Online mr.bluesky

Maybe men have more stressful jobs than women,
Men tend to drink more than women , although many modern women can hold their own when it comes to drinking.
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Offline Strawberry

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Maybe men have more stressful jobs than women,
Men tend to drink more than women , although many modern women can hold their own when it comes to drinking.
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I need to fact check this but I was told alcohol is metabolised differently by women, meaning that comparatively less body mass, less muscle tissue aside, women are more susceptible to the effects of alcohol. Found an article now;

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Offline alabama1

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Do you have an opinion  :unknown:

Offline Colston36

Some young men can barely strong a sentence together.

Sometimes one comes across people who can't spell tricky words like string.

Offline RandomGuy99

Do you have an opinion  :unknown:
My opinion is we're busy, have a not so good diet and many of us just want to put our feet up when we get home instead of wanting to go to the gym. The weather doesn't help either especially in autumn and winter.  We generally don't go to the doctor and don't pay much attention to our health unless it's really bad.

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Sometimes one comes across people who can't spell tricky words like string.

Glue is better than string

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Offline RandomGuy99

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That bit in the article where the guy says he didn’t go to the doctors cos he thought he could fix it himself,
“I didn’t want to be a burden”

Bollocks……. Just someone else afraid to see a GP in case they get told something they don’t want to hear.

Offline RandomGuy99

That bit in the article where the guy says he didn’t go to the doctors cos he thought he could fix it himself,
“I didn’t want to be a burden”

Bollocks……. Just someone else afraid to see a GP in case they get told something they don’t want to hear.
It's best to go to the GP if you have a concern as it will at least put your mind at ease.

Online myothernameis

BBC News - Why men are so unhealthy - and what can be done

Another aspect to consider, so 5 years ago, covid arrived, and took many lives, and still doing damage through long-covid

Through 3 covid infections over the last 5 years, and numerous upper tract infections, and now know the left side of my lungs is no longer functioning properly

So now my health suffers on a daily basis, and sometimes affect my general outlook

So how many person out there have had covid at sometime, and now have long-covid, but good chance the nhs dont record this data

Offline alabama1

It's best to go to the GP if you have a concern as it will at least put your mind at ease.
Not if it's bad news it won't !

Offline RandomGuy99

Not if it's bad news it won't !
If it's bad news then at least you can plan instead of sitting there worrying. The sooner a problem is found, the sooner treatment can start and your chances of a positive outcome are increased.

Offline Markus

I’ve met many women who can put men away when it comes to drinking and smoking.

Regarding my own health,   I recently had some alarming news and have changed my habits pretty much overnight.    Cut down the alcohol completely, try to gym at least 2-3 times a week,  eating greens everyday,  sleeping properly and reduction in sugar and also in stress where possible. 

It has made quite a difference to my life.   My doctor told me that the number 1 biggest killer is sugar.   He himself is a diabetic and diagnosed at 40, he turned his life around.   As the doctor pointed out, sometimes a bit of a health scare can put your life in to perspective and actually be a godsend.   

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My doctor told me that the number 1 biggest killer is sugar.   

It's more addictive than Cocaine, a fraction of the price, and there are dealers on every corner.

Research is now showing that repeated use and over use is the cause of more chronic illness than almost any other factor.

I confess, I am an addict. Trying to give it up is difficult, it's hidden in lots of food.

I've always eaten lots of greens and veg, but I've changed my diet a lot over the past few years. I rarely eat meat at home, I eat a wider range of grains, beans and pulses. I also eat nuts and or berries daily.

One of my other addictions is white bread.