Sergei question

[Tecova]

In a Thai massage parlour, ladies are typically on rotation, quite a few for many years given the age of ladies I have seen when having a massage there recently.

I wonder about EE/S. American girls who typically seem to be in their 20s. They tend to be rotated around the country too but that would be done upto a limit as I don't think I've ever seen a 50yo EE/S. American on VS for example.

Does Sergei say 'you're too old.' or whatever and send them back or can the girls stop of their own accord etc..?

I know there's threads on why girls quit but they tend to be aimed at English indies which I'm not on about.

[RandomGuy99]

I suspect the non-trafficked ones do the job to achieve a particular goal e.g. make enough money to do x (help their family/children, pay bills, get surgery, buy house, pay hospital or medical bills, pay their way in college/university, etc.) and once they achieve their goal they return to their normal life. They may also have a bit of a vacation while they're in the country. Some may miss the money and return to the job over the years. Others happily achieve their goals and return home and enjoy their lives. The amount of time they spend in the country may be dictated by the length of their visa waiver.

I think the South American girls tend to be independents who gave travelled to the UK to have a secret job away from their family. They want to make money and see the country. They may work ir visit the country in groups possibly actually friends. At the end of their European tour they return home ehen their tourist visa/visa waiver expires.

The trafficked ones probably get worn out and disguarded and replaced by "fresh meat" in the grinder.

[fed24]

To be honest those genuine Thai and Philippine prossies left in the UK won't be trafficked, they will be the ones who got here over a decade or more ago married then got divorced so have residency. Because most will be country girls with little to no education all they can do is lie back, spread their legs and think of home as an income.

The glory days of punting young Thai and Philippine prossies is over imho, it died with Theresa Mays hostile environment policy and the national obsession to get baseline immigration figures down! I actually don't even agree with the label "Trafficked" preferring "facilitated" when it comes to them getting to the UK, going back to when I used to regularly punt Thai prossies in London fifteen years ago they were all their willingly and had used "fixers" to enable them to get to the UK. At that time they were able to make good coin spending time in UK parlours and the quality of their service was cut above the local talent in many cases. Usual method to get to the UK was via a language school, unfortunately May had a massive clamp down on the language schools and that in combination with an economic boom in East Asia led to them not bothering to come to the UK any more. Those who are here now are those who stayed and got residency, what is funny is if I check the old London agency websites the same adverts are up for girls I saw fifteen years ago. Some will be reused bait and switch using Chinese girls whilst others are the same ones I saw all those years ago...still advertising themselves to be in their early twenties! 

[vindici]

I actually don't even agree with the label "Trafficked" preferring "facilitated" when it comes to them getting to the UK, going back to when I used to regularly punt Thai prossies in London fifteen years ago they were all their willingly and had used "fixers" to enable them to get to the UK.

I highly doubt that the word "trafficked" as used in the context of punting includes people that come to the UK willingly for sexwork. Let's not muddy the waters.

I enjoy punting, but only with willing participants, so any whiff of trafficking is a no no for me.

[scutty brown]

the future of a tired jaded trafficked girl is variable and depends on who controls them, and their nationality

just as an example, when they're too old to service europeans, there's plenty of demand for girls in the middle east or Africa, serving the worker population. Plenty of gangs willing to trade girls on, bit like cars at auction
And after that there's the organ harvesting business

[RandomGuy99]

the future of a tired jaded trafficked girl is variable and depends on who controls them, and their nationality

just as an example, when they're too old to service europeans, there's plenty of demand for girls in the middle east or Africa, serving the worker population. Plenty of gangs willing to trade girls on, bit like cars at auction
And after that there's the organ harvesting business

Which is why if you suspect an SP is being trafficked or being forced into the sex business then you should report it so the appropriate action can be taken by the authorities to get the SP out of that dangerous situation.  You can report such situations anonymously.

[fed24]

I highly doubt that the word "trafficked" as used in the context of punting includes people that come to the UK willingly for sexwork. Let's not muddy the waters.

I enjoy punting, but only with willing participants, so any whiff of trafficking is a no no for me.

It goes without saying that actual trafficking is unacceptable and I was not attempting to muddy the waters, more fool me for not explaining a bit more clearly! Feminists and anti prostitution NGO like to extend the term "trafficking" to all prostitutes inferring they are all doing it unwillingly especially those who have come from another country. To get to the UK as a woman who willingly wants to enter the sex trade does need facilitators on occasion who are paid money or otherwise remunerated to enable them to get to the UK. The antis call this trafficking, I prefer facilitated as there is no coercion going just a transaction to allow someone to come here and enter the business!

If you think a woman is trafficked report it!

[daviemac]

To get to the UK as a woman who willingly wants to enter the sex trade does need facilitators on occasion who are paid money or otherwise remunerated to enable them to get to the UK. The antis call this trafficking, I prefer facilitated as there is no coercion going just a transaction to allow someone to come here and enter the business!

Why do they need to pay anyone other than a travel agent to legally come to the UK to work. You appear to be talking about people working here illegally and no matter what the job is that is against the law.

Every so often they raid Asian massage parlours looking for people working here illegally. The same as they do with any other business where they suspect there are people working illegally.