Finley Boden - Parents jailed

[Blackpool Rock]

i'm thinking this deserves a thread of it's own and whenever these stories appear on the news and they seem to regularly pop up all too often it always brings a lump to my throat and a tear to my eyes 

Poor little lad was only 10 months old and had only been back in his parents "Care" for 39 days but sustained 57 breaks to his bones and 71 bruises plus 2 burns
Infections etc finally led to him dying from a cardiac arrest

It never ceases to amaze me just how sick some people actually are to be able to do this kind of thing 
Hopefully they both suffer and have a hard time inside 

Bless the poor little soul, at least he's not in any pain now

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[mr.bluesky]

What scumbags they are, they should be locked up for good, they showed no remorse during the trial. I only hope they have a tough time in prison and have the shit kicked out of them but they will probably be kept away from other prisoners. The care people who handed the poor kid back to them have a lot to answer for. The system failed him big time.

[shed]

I see the news headlines on shit like this but never read the details. Too upsetting for me I am afraid. Children are a gift from God and hopefully the couple responsible will live a life of hell locked up in a prison full of inmates who want to rip their eyes out every day. 

[MissWolf]

I see the news headlines on shit like this but never read the details. Too upsetting for me I am afraid. Children are a gift from God and hopefully the couple responsible will live a life of hell locked up in a prison full of inmates who want to rip their eyes out every day.

This 
They should both be sterilised to stop them ever having kids again 

[timsussex]

This 
They should both be sterilised to stop them ever having kids again 

In his case with two bricks or a rusty knife !

thankfully she probably will be post menopause when if she  is ever released

[badsin]

Terrible case. There where warnings prior to the lockdowns, that vulnerable people would suffer. Whether that be children, spouses etc.
The evil nature of the treatment of this poor child, is horrifyingly, by people that should be his fiercest protector's.
As others have said, hopefully their time inside will be equally torturous, as what they inflicted

[Stevelondon]

I was waiting for the usual response from the authorities.
“Lessons will be learned”

Unfortunately lessons never seem to be learned by those who sent this poor little soul to his doom.

[mr.bluesky]

I was waiting for the usual response from the authorities.
“Lessons will be learned”

Unfortunately lessons never seem to be learned by those who sent this poor little soul to his doom.

Yeah, those responsible for letting this poor boy go back to his parents should loose their jobs if they haven't all ready done so

[lostandfound]

Was listening to the radio (R4, Today prog) the other day and apparently there are around 50 children who die in care each year in the UK, which by comparison to other countries, is not a high number.

In this case, on the advice of a specialist social worker from CAFCASS the reintroduction to the family was to be done over 2 months instead of the judge's initial decision of 4 months.

The family were very devious, and this case happened during the pandemic - so eg in one instance the family turned away a visit because the child "had covid".

Recommendations are in place for an elite team of highly skilled professionals to be deployed during difficult cases like this one.

In any case, I would hesitate to demonise social workers, who I understand to be in a poorly paid and under resourced profession.

[timsussex]

if they claimed the child had COVID - then you will both be self isolating so I'll pop round now !

He was clearly highest of high risks yet the social workers were fobbed off with excuses SEVERAL times when the briefest of visits would have shown a major problem - he had 57 broken bones!

The only question is who is to blame within the department and I suspect someone low on the totem pole will carry the can

[RadioKid]

These people should be left to rot in a dark cell

[JontyR]

Yeah, I'm guessing the department hasn't got enough staff to do the job effectively. It may be some poor sap who was juggling the work load of 3 by themselves. In such an instance is it really their fault?

[willie loman]

Yeah, I'm guessing the department hasn't got enough staff to do the job effectively. It may be some poor sap who was juggling the work load of 3 by themselves. In such an instance is it really their fault?

you are guessing as are the rest of us, but it is striking how often abusive parents avoid giving access to the house, citing various excuses, that is nothing to do with lack of resource etc

[willie loman]

Was listening to the radio (R4, Today prog) the other day and apparently there are around 50 children who die in care each year in the UK, which by comparison to other countries, is not a high number.

In this case, on the advice of a specialist social worker from CAFCASS the reintroduction to the family was to be done over 2 months instead of the judge's initial decision of 4 months.

The family were very devious, and this case happened during the pandemic - so eg in one instance the family turned away a visit because the child "had covid".

Recommendations are in place for an elite team of highly skilled professionals to be deployed during difficult cases like this one.

In any case, I would hesitate to demonise social workers, who I understand to be in a poorly paid and under resourced profession.

unless you are living in central london, social worker salaries afford a comfortable lifestyle, plus benefits.

[JontyR]

you are guessing as are the rest of us, but it is striking how often abusive parents avoid giving access to the house, citing various excuses, that is nothing to do with lack of resource etc

You say that, but the ability to make return trips, the pressure of making all the other required calls. That can be down to resource.

[JontyR]

unless you are living in central london, social worker salaries afford a comfortable lifestyle, plus benefits.

Bit of a sweeping generalisation. The difference in liefstyle between a single parent with two kids and those in a DINKY (double income no kids yet) is massive.

[willie loman]

Bit of a sweeping generalisation. The difference in liefstyle between a single parent with two kids and those in a DINKY (double income no kids yet) is massive.

that applies to any public service salary, besides what about child support?

[willie loman]

You say that, but the ability to make return trips, the pressure of making all the other required calls. That can be down to resource.

when you get to the door and are fobbed off, as happens in all of these child deaths, thats down to individual failure not underfunding

[JontyR]

that applies to any public service salary, besides what about child support?

What about it? What about childcare costs?

[JontyR]

when you get to the door and are fobbed off, as happens in all of these child deaths, thats down to individual failure not underfunding

When it comes to jumping to conclusions, you are in the Bob Beamon class.

[timsussex]

When it comes to jumping to conclusions, you are in the Bob Beamon class.

He has a point; it does seem that in every case of child abuse the parent(s) avoided visits - well they would wouldn't they !

Surely it should raise a massive red flag; in this case a visit was missed and then when SS did a surprise visit they were told that he had COVID. It seems that was enough for them to go away

[JontyR]

He has a point; it does seem that in every case of child abuse the parent(s) avoided visits - well they would wouldn't they !

Surely it should raise a massive red flag; in this case a visit was missed and then when SS did a surprise visit they were told that he had COVID. It seems that was enough for them to go away

Not disputing there were failings. Not disputing its utterly horrific. Not disputing that the whole situation should be better. But...

Lets say you were a social worker, you are meant to have 50 kids or whatever that you are meant to monitor. Then one day the manager comes in, says Julie has quit / gone off sick  or wahtever and now you had to do another 50 as well...should you refuse knowing that you don't have the time to do them all properly?

[jackdaw]

Not disputing there were failings. Not disputing its utterly horrific. Not disputing that the whole situation should be better. But...

Lets say you were a social worker, you are meant to have 50 kids or whatever that you are meant to monitor. Then one day the manager comes in, says Julie has quit / gone off sick  or wahtever and now you had to do another 50 as well...should you refuse knowing that you don't have the time to do them all properly?

Yes…there are all sorts of possibilities.

It will be fully investigated, so any action can be taken then.

 But I will admit to a bias: the emphasis shouldn’t be on punishing social workers! In the main they are hard working, well meaning people who often work in far more trying conditions than junior doctors or nurses, for less pay…and often less respect.

[Watts.E.Dunn]

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Another poor lad murdered by supposed parents, not scenteced as yet lets hope they throuw away the keys evil swines!

[RandomGuy99]

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Another poor lad murdered by supposed parents, not scenteced as yet lets hope they throuw away the keys evil swines!

I don't get how a parent can treat their children that way.

[mr.bluesky]

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Another poor lad murdered by supposed parents, not scenteced as yet lets hope they throuw away the keys evil swines!

Hanging them would be a better solution imo.
Considering the injuries and misery they inflicted on the poor boy

[RandomGuy99]

Hanging them would be a better solution imo.
Considering the injuries and misery they inflicted on the poor boy

That would be too quick an exit for them.

Best to let them sit in a cell thinking about their actions for life. 

[mr.bluesky]

That would be too quick an exit for them.

Best to let them sit in a cell thinking about their actions for life.

That's the problem, I don't think they would ,they have never shown any remorse, save the tax payer some money and let them dangle from the end of a rope.

[RandomGuy99]

That's the problem, I don't think they would ,they have never shown any remorse, save the tax payer some money and let them dangle from the end of a rope.

Well I'm sure the other prisoners will give them an experience similar to what they gave their son.

[mr.bluesky]

Well I'm sure the other prisoners will give them an experience similar to what they gave their son.

You would hope so but they will probably be kept separate from the rest of the prisoners