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2 review(s) for BRITISH BELLA (Khlo) (0 positive, 0 neutral, 2 negative) [Indexed by WARSZAWA16]

Offline Nickoname1

Decided to gamble. Was local. She looked hot-ish and profile written in decent English.

AW messages then WhatsApp. Eventually agreed a time. Half an hour for £90. Postcode provided. From the outside, it's a former office block converted into rooms or bedsits. Looked ok but appeared to be a number of asylum seekers or similar. Not unsafe but wouldn't fancy it at night.

Shortly before agreed time she asked me to send a face pic. I refused and offered a video call. She refused and clicked the red button when I called. Then silence.

Hung around for 15 mins then left.

She subsequently said she needed a photo and it was only fair as I'd seen her pic on aw.  Obviously I have no idea whether she is real.

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Offline simon07

Maybe she wanted the picture to blackmail you?  :scare:

Never had to submit a picture and not going to either.

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Decided to gamble. Was local. She looked hot-ish and profile written in decent English.

AW messages then WhatsApp. Eventually agreed a time. Half an hour for £90. Postcode provided. From the outside, it's a former office block converted into rooms or bedsits. Looked ok but appeared to be a number of asylum seekers or similar. Not unsafe but wouldn't fancy it at night.

Shortly before agreed time she asked me to send a face pic. I refused and offered a video call. She refused and clicked the red button when I called. Then silence.

Hung around for 15 mins then left.

She subsequently said she needed a photo and it was only fair as I'd seen her pic on aw.  Obviously I have no idea whether she is real.

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This is why this forum is so good. I dropped her an e-mail about 5 days ago and it is yet to be read. Had she read it, I may have arranged an appointment and been equally disappointed.   :thumbsup:

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Maybe she wanted the picture to blackmail you?  :scare:

Never had to submit a picture and not going to either.

That thought did cross my mind.

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This is why this forum is so good. I dropped her an e-mail about 5 days ago and it is yet to be read. Had she read it, I may have arranged an appointment and been equally disappointed.   :thumbsup:

She may be an absolute cracker.....if you are prepared to send a photo. Or it could be something more sinister.

Not for me, and I'm glad my review helped

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You could submit a random picture from the Web, how would she know.

If you turn up for the punt and she queries it,  then it's a reverse Bait and switch  :lol:

An SP once showed me her whatsapp messages from a punter, she remarked that she thought he was good looking.

His profile picture was Philip Schofield  :lol:
« Last Edit: October 12, 2023, 09:11:49 am by PilotMan »

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You could submit a random picture from the Web, how would she know.

If you turn up for the punt and she queries it,  then it's a reverse Bait and switch  :lol:

An SP once showed me her whatsapp messages from a punter, she remarked that she thought he was good looking.

His profile picture was Philip Schofield  :lol:

That's genius even though said punter picked the wrong celeb!

I'm gonna change mine to Brad Pitt immediately!

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That's genius even though said punter picked the wrong celeb!

I'm gonna change mine to Brad Pitt immediately!

...or Prince Andrew. No danger of blackmail then.  :D

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Actually, no. No to all of the above. How does any of this nonsense make any sense whatsoever?

Most clients don't have WhatsApp pictures, text has no ID whatsoever. Most people don't even call. These are random guys going into single, frequently vulnerable women's homes with no pre-booking on AW, not that that is a security check anyway, and in the case of "party girls", these guys are additionally heavily under the influence. Of course she requested a call, of course he refused it and then went on here to post a sore review. He was either banned by her or anxious. Refused the call, freaked her out and she refused to see him.

And the guy who went "oh she just wanted to blackmail him". Like HOW? She didn't ask for photo ID with his address. Is she unable to screenshot a call image?

You guys need to sometimes, just sometimes, use your brains and look at things from the perspective of these girls. The single flat girls don't have security, they tend to be either vulnerable by being new to the country or party girls and you are all sitting there listening to this guys nonsense and going "oh yea she was like gunna blackmaila ya mate and was wastin ya time init, you did right bruv".

Please think. :dash:
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Actually, no. No to all of the above. How does any of this nonsense make any sense whatsoever?

Most clients don't have WhatsApp pictures, text has no ID whatsoever. Most people don't even call. These are random guys going into single, frequently vulnerable women's homes with no pre-booking on AW, not that that is a security check anyway, and in the case of "party girls", these guys are additionally heavily under the influence. Of course she requested a call, of course he refused it and then went on here to post a sore review. He was either banned by her or anxious. Refused the call, freaked her out and she refused to see him.

And the guy who went "oh she just wanted to blackmail him". Like HOW? She didn't ask for photo ID with his address. Is she unable to screenshot a call image?

You guys need to sometimes, just sometimes, use your brains and look at things from the perspective of these girls. The single flat girls don't have security, they tend to be either vulnerable by being new to the country or party girls and you are all sitting there listening to this guys nonsense and going "oh yea she was like gunna blackmaila ya mate and was wastin ya time init, you did right bruv".

Please think. :dash:
Firstly, are you an escort as this post gives the impression you are.  :unknown:

The odd thing is your only 2 previous posts are warnings about you being scammed so is that you trying to discredit other SPs.   :unknown:

You've been here over 5 1/2 years if you are a punter what reason do you have for your lack of contributions.


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 :hi:   I`ll throw in 2 penny worth as has happened in past to me.

My vocie is North London Harrowish from 60s so there is a catch of people that I sound ...at times similar too :cool: .... As an example so do a few of my mates and among others Now Dead Mr Micheals and a few other celebs :drinks:...How ever! it could be you sounded like somebody she knew  :scare: :scare: :scare:  and just wanted to make sure she did not meet you in person ....Quite a few of the Black ladies :kissgirl:  Ive seen dont see Black lads just incase the meet a distant friend  ect so I d give benifit of doubt but to be fair ...you`ve been on here a long while and nether post or reveiw ...could do better as my teacher used to say :hi: :hi:
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And lastly, the whole suggestion he was "going to get jumped". This building is a tinfoil outer shell housing 40 or so stuios. A fly farts and you hear it. Not only that, it is commercial property converged as temporary housing and therefore very obviously houses a wide variety of clients and thus, funnily enough, has far more security than most other buildings anywhere.

You guys need to sometimes, just sometimes, use your brains and look at things from the perspective of these girls. Instead of jumping on "we are punters we are bothers all situations are the same we are paying", lapping up each other's nonsense and going "oh yea she was like gunna blackmaila ya mate and was wastin ya time init, you did right bruv coz like there was ten guys in there ready to rob ya 75 quid off ya for a 15 minute cus that's like well worth their while and makes total business sense init".

Please think. :dash: And also I would urge you to think about the impact your behaviour has on the incomes and livelihoods of these people. Your feels were harmed and you are unable to admit this is due to your own inadequacy and therefore you lash out against people who are largely defenceless. It is obvious to me from the very basics of reality, should be obvious to others and actually you, Nickoname, could be doing some self reflection. Think about it, read what I wrote, breathe for two days, and please do stop lashing out at people as though they are trying to harm you. They aren't. This is lack of self reflection on the context you are operating in. The other aspects you understand better on than I.
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Even if I was AN escort, would that make a difference as to what I was saying!? No. So your point is redundant unless of course you think escorts shouldn't be listened to because what they say could never ever have anything of value to you. If you are suggesting I am Isabella, not sure my literary style aligns with her and that should be fairly obvious but again, what is the relevance of your point? Are you saying I cannot speak because I've not made enough posts or what I say is automatically a falsehood or that I, either because I had not posted enough or was an escort, would even have motivation to in some way skew the above? And even if I did, where is your refutation of the matter?

And before you go onto my motivations, rather than continuing to embarrass you or others who would, they are also irrelevant to any of the points I was making. They are independent of any person, they are situational and some of you guys are thinking this is a game of scam the punter. I mean sure, that is played in parts of Luton and Slough but in general, most of these people are just trying to make a living. And the above is vitriolic and damaging on a lot of levels. Geezer clearly got cold feet/uncomfortable which is OK, it happens, we are all human, then was embarrassed by her seeming rejection which was just her justified paranoia and you've painted her as a blackmailer with a group of robbers and murderers at the standby who does this to waste people's time because her demands are so incredibly obscure and extreme, rather than based on basic personal safety. Come on.

How about before continuing this nonsense where you and your clique try silence reality by volume, we agree to all first visit Graham’s Hierarchy of Disagreement and then bring up the conversation to a level which my post justified, despite some of its flustered and frustrated tone.
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Even if I was AN escort, would that make a difference as to what I was saying!? No. So your point is redundant unless of course you think escorts shouldn't be listened to because what they say could never ever have anything of value to you.
Nothing wrong with escorts being members and having their say but they must disclose the fact they are service providers and inform admin of their workings names.

All in the rules if you bothered to read them.

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On your other points I want to know why you have not made any useful contributions during your time as a member, something that is also in the rules which you are totally ignoring. This does require an answer BTW.

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That's before I even start on you being a white knight. We do not tolerate extremes on here, white knights are just as bad as those who push boundaries and are abusive, neither do escorts any favours.

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Decided to gamble. Was local. She looked hot-ish and profile written in decent English.

AW messages then WhatsApp. Eventually agreed a time. Half an hour for £90. Postcode provided. From the outside, it's a former office block converted into rooms or bedsits. Looked ok but appeared to be a number of asylum seekers or similar. Not unsafe but wouldn't fancy it at night.

Shortly before agreed time she asked me to send a face pic. I refused and offered a video call. She refused and clicked the red button when I called. Then silence.

Hung around for 15 mins then left.

She subsequently said she needed a photo and it was only fair as I'd seen her pic on aw.  Obviously I have no idea whether she is real.

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I see her the other night, we talked about this review among many things. she wanted a face pic to see if she was Half attracted to him and willing to engage in sexual activities with him. She doesn't like to see Asian/Indian men her preference which she is entitled to as she is going to be engaging in sexual activities with the punter. Nothing to do with blackmail etc. I hade her outcall to my property (no problems since!)

She said this customer/man that made this review spoke to her neighbours which she witnessed and found very indiscreet and disrespectful! Which is why she aired him!

Shes a great punt, young 26, passionate, good energy and give great deepthroat.
Her pussy is night and tight and shaven and clean. Mutal oral both ways (owo on me) was lovelyyyy.
30min outcall turned into 2.5hrs of great fun no clock watching and well worth the 120 notes!

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she wanted a face pic to see if she was Half attracted to him and willing to engage in sexual activities with him.
WTF, what has attraction got to do with anything, she's a prostitute providing sexual services if she need to be attracted she's in the wrong game.

All the ones I've seen only want you arrive and leave on time, be clean, have the correct money and stay within the boundaries, looks are irrelevant.

Can't see any mention of requiring of photo on her AW page? 

Oh and another thing what are you doing discussing another member's review with this SP, looking to gain favours??  :unknown:
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Well since we have accepted my points as fair, valid and worthy of the esteemed members attention to re-evaluate the narrative above, I am not an escort which should be pretty obvious, and, as your own rules state, I have no quota to fulfil.

I have not white knighted anyone, there is no basis for that at all. There is nothing in my post specific to Isabella. I expressed no views on her whatsoever, I simply confirmed she was who she was and then I pointed out the context of the situation and the misunderstandings and intentional minor but absolutely critical fallacy in this person's story which led to his own bad experience, from which he should learn, not reinforce basic errors so many people make.

Had I thought about rather than accepted it as factual, I'd have known it immediately. I would suggest that would be of much more value to the community as a part of the role of the moderators, to remove obviously false or in fact slanderous and based on no reality posts, than to deplatform the people who challenge the echo chamber, I mean I'm sure you all know everything as do your new members and nothing needs to be challenged. Yes my tone was irate and maybe you've never had a conversation with any of these women as to the impact these thins have on them, I have, a number of them, and sure there are elements of truth in everything, but this thread is so wildly vicious because the OP mishandled the situation and then changed one basic fact and missing, obvious context from every part of the other side of the story. The part I found the most absurdly triggering was the assertion that the lower and mid range party crowd are some sort of blackmailing criminal masterminds. Most of them don't even care about what day of the week it is let alone blackmailing people with no information and cleaning the money after. It's just vicious, no base in reality, just said probably out of ignorance of this segment and then reinforced. But it sits with the people who consume this information and it's not helpful to the punters because it doesn't reflect reality of the situation and escalates their paranoia and damages their experience.

And lastly, "lurker accounts" are a matter relevance due to storage and potential security issues over inactive accounts being hacked, this being superficially pointed out in your rules. As my account is clearly not dormant and I am using it to read posts and look at images and links restricted outside of login, banning it would simply be deplatforming of somebody who said some uncomfortable things, tread on a few eggshells and upset you because you reacted without sufficient reflection on the situation. I lose nothing by losing the account. I gain by telling you rather than trying to throw rules and subrules at me to silence me, you should go to the start of the thread, reread it, assess the information and context in it and then work out whether or not the initial comments by several posters were logical, likely and proportional or fair with zero context by me, then whether my context was relevant and then to what degree you need to actually moderate the things your contributors do vs to what degree you wish to do better for anyone reading this and anyone buying services or commissioning services. That is your choice, not whether you spend more time inventing ways to silence me. For that, you simply press the ban button.
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you simply press the ban button.
Correct, I've had enough of your bullshit.

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Yea you be a tyrant. What is it the last refuge of? the impotent?
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Correct, I've had enough of your bullshit.

Thank F*&k for that.

Claims to be a punter, writes countless essays on telling punters what they should / shouldn't do, but in 5.5 Years not a single worthwhile contribution or review.

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I notice that she has changed her profile name, maybe trying to distant herself from this review

now called "KHLOE_BELLA"

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I see her the other night, we talked about this review among many things. she wanted a face pic to see if she was Half attracted to him and willing to engage in sexual activities with him. She doesn't like to see Asian/Indian men her preference which she is entitled to as she is going to be engaging in sexual activities with the punter. Nothing to do with blackmail etc. I hade her outcall to my property (no problems since!)

She said this customer/man that made this review spoke to her neighbours which she witnessed and found very indiscreet and disrespectful! Which is why she aired him!

Shes a great punt, young 26, passionate, good energy and give great deepthroat.
Her pussy is night and tight and shaven and clean. Mutal oral both ways (owo on me) was lovelyyyy.
30min outcall turned into 2.5hrs of great fun no clock watching and well worth the 120 notes!

Looks like you're short a review fella  :lol:

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WTF, what has attraction got to do with anything, she's a prostitute providing sexual services if she need to be attracted she's in the wrong game.

All the ones I've seen only want you arrive and leave on time, be clean, have the correct money and stay within the boundaries, looks are irrelevant.

Can't see any mention of requiring of photo on her AW page? 

Oh and another thing what are you doing discussing another member's review with this SP, looking to gain favours??  :unknown:

Is that against the rules or the law I think not!

It was a general conversation we was aloud to have!

I wasn’t looking for any gains from it lol she brought it up!

I’m very experienced in this game and have put a lot of effort into reviews, when I get time I will make one about her!

I don’t need to lie or bs I just state facts! I don’t pick sides, I just say it how I find it!
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Is that against the rules or the law I think not!

It was a general conversation we was aloud to have!

I wasn’t looking for any gains from it lol she brought it up!

I’m very experienced in this game and have put a lot of effort into reviews, when I get time I will make one about her!

I don’t need to lie or bs I just state facts! I don’t pick sides, I just say it how I find it!
Discussing reviews with escorts casts doubt over all of your reviews, why on earth would you want to even tell them you are a member here let alone discuss other people's reviews with them if not to gain something?

What was it? "you've got a negative review on UKP I'll post positive comments to counteract it and post a glowing positive"   :unknown:

Will you be getting a freeby for the review?

BTW half decent members deny all knowledge of UKP if an escort brings it up.
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Discussing reviews with escorts casts doubt over all of your reviews, why on earth would you want to even tell them you are a member here let alone discuss other people's reviews with them if not to gain something?

What was it? "you've got a negative review on UKP I'll post positive comments to counteract it and post a glowing positive"   :unknown:

Will you be getting a freeby for the review?

BTW half decent members deny all knowledge of UKP if an escort brings it up.

All my reviews are very genuine as anyone could tell lol. I tell the truth good or bad.

She said someone left me a bad review on a punting website.
I said, yes iv seen it!
she said yeah, I asked for a face pic to make sure he wasn’t Indian/asian as I don’t like to see customers of that orientation.
which she is entitled to do!

Then she see him talking to her neighbours and like said thought is was very indiscreet and disrespectful!

Even if she is a service provider she is aloud to choose her clientele, at the end of the day she is having sexual interactions with the customer it’s her body and her choice.

Would you give oral to a large overweight ugly female of an orientation you didn’t find attractive even for money I think not!

Never did I tell her I was a member or I have write many reviews myself!
I am discreet and don’t haggle in them sort of ways lol I’m not short of notes!

I haven’t wrote her a positive review just gave my thoughts as iv found them.
Everyone can make up their own minds.
But a lot of people that follow my reviews and I speak to know I’m genuine with a lot of experience!  :thumbsup:
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All my reviews are very genuine as anyone could tell lol. I tell the truth good or bad.

She said someone left me a bad review on a punting website.
I said, yes iv seen it!
she said yeah, I asked for a face pic to make sure he wasn’t Indian/asian as I don’t like to see customers of that orientation.
which she is entitled to do!

Then she see him talking to her neighbours and like said thought is was very indiscreet and disrespectful!

Even if she is a service provider she is aloud to choose her clientele, at the end of the day she is having sexual interactions with the customer it’s her body and her choice.

Would you give oral to a large overweight ugly female of an orientation you didn’t find attractive even for money I think not!

Never did I tell her I was a member or I have write many reviews myself!
I am discreet and don’t haggle in them sort of ways lol I’m not short of notes!

I haven’t wrote her a positive review just gave my thoughts as iv found them.
Everyone can make up their own minds.
But a lot of people that follow my reviews and I speak to know I’m genuine with a lot of experience!  :thumbsup:
Don't believe you mate, yes any escort can see or not see who they like but none of that has anything to do with you.

You have come on a negative review, told us all you've discussed it with the SP, defended her to the hilt including what you say is her right to ask for a face pic, even though nothing is mentioned on her profile about that and while you haven't posted a review of her you have stated you are going to post a positive for her.

Dodgy as . . . .

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Don't believe you mate, yes any escort can see or not see who they like but none of that has anything to do with you.

You have come on a negative review, told us all you've discussed it with the SP, defended her to the hilt including what you say is her right to ask for a face pic, even though nothing is mentioned on her profile about that and while you haven't posted a review of her you have stated you are going to post a positive for her.

Dodgy as . . . .


An irrelevant opinion is just that! Irrelevant!

I don’t give a damn what you believe or don’t!

You stated that a prostitude shouldn’t complain about who they see and there in the wrong game if they choose to be “picky” with clients! You have sharply backtracked on that little man.

You’re not Judge, jury or executioner around here!

Defended her to the hilt is laughable, just said the truth as I found it!

She doesn’t need to advertise about a face pic on her profile, it is up to the punter weather he sends one or not when asked or moves on!

So jog on, get reviewing and being a joey  :thumbsup:
I’m done with you Mac you don’t need to reply!

Ps fellas - shes a gooden  ;)
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An irrelevant opinion is just that! Irrelevant!

I don’t give a damn what you believe or don’t!

You stated that a prostitude shouldn’t complain about who they see and there in the wrong game if they choose to be “picky” with clients! You have sharply backtracked on that little man.

You’re not Judge, jury or executioner around here!

Defended her to the hilt is laughable, just said the truth as I found it!

She doesn’t need to advertise about a face pic on her profile, it is up to the punter weather he sends one or not when asked or moves on!

So jog on, get reviewing and being a joey  :thumbsup:
I’m done with you Mac you don’t need to reply!

Ps fellas - shes a gooden  ;)

Unfortunately for you I am judge, jury and executioner around here and apart from you discussing another member's review and your white knight antics, abuse of a mod is an instant ban.

BTW I'm just debating the best way to show how dodgy you are in the banning reason.
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