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Offline puntingking

The 35 year old woman who was beaten and killed in gants Hill moments away from her front door early hours on Sunday morning. 

But many men are killed by stabbed wound on our capital streets so it is hardly a crime that only affects females. Its the leftist media at it again point scoring blaming all men for a small portion of bad men behaviour. 

The result they say: teach men not to be bad.

Men know how to not be criminals. How pathetic and sexist is that to males.

Am I right? Or wrong on this?

I must say though, my heart goes out the family of the 35 year woman who was killed in Gants Hill. It was a brutal act and terrible. You should not be expecting that kind of behavior in the uk in this day of age.

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I’m not so sure about that last sentence in the OP.

Murders, stabbing a in the UK are certainly NOT unexpected anymore.

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In the early hours, the streets of towns and cities were once where those on the razzle were finding their way home, early workers on their way to work, street cleaners and the like already at work and a Police presence.

Not anymore, all sorts wandering around, on foot or on a cycle, some in cars pretending to be cabs, often had an early hours drive into London with a young lady, seen females making their way home from a night out, stalked and hassled and groups of men prowling the streets with no obvious reason to be there, particularly on mild nights, sometimes gone way over west on empty roads, prime target for Plod looking for a drink driver, would have been stopped often back in the day, but there is no Police presence any more, they only react to calls.

Until the Authorities take back the streets, this will keep happening, very obviously some men do not know how to behave, leave women walking home alone, if you go out in the early hours you will see it for yourself. The article does have a point.

How do Plod react? finding coppers to create a street presence for a few days, after the incident, does anyone else feel this is a pathetic response?
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I’m not so sure about that last sentence in the OP.

Murders, stabbing a in the UK are certainly NOT unexpected anymore.

yes but he is right when he said we 'should not expect' such behaviour

it is not unexpected but in our relatively civilised society it is something we should not take to be expected

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The 35 year old woman who was beaten and killed in gants Hill moments away from her front door early hours on Sunday morning. 

But many men are killed by stabbed wound on our capital streets so it is hardly a crime that only affects females. Its the leftist media at it again point scoring blaming all men for a small portion of bad men behaviour. 
You conveniently left out the fact that it was also rape, or attempted rape.  How many men are raped and killed?  This post seems to confirm your prejudices, more than that of the media.

Most stabbings and killings are gang related.  If you are not a gang member, or look like you might be one, the picture is very different.


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You conveniently left out the fact that it was also rape, or attempted rape.  How many men are raped and killed?  This post seems to confirm your prejudices, more than that of the media.

Most stabbings and killings are gang related.  If you are not a gang member, or look like you might be one, the picture is very different.

Can you find me  news article where it says she was raped? I can't seemed to find one? To my knowledge she wasn't raped. She was just beaten and murdered.  I have no prejudice here. All I care about is justice and fair reporting and no bias.

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If she was raped, it would changed my view slightly but not much.

For instance the leftist mps bang on about teaching men how to "not rape" . Oh yes. That have been spoken about.  Not blatant but it has. I have no interest in being violent to any Man or woman.  Nobody needs to teach me how not to be "bad".

I take your point. Much more woman than men do get  rape.

But the media and leftist can't and shouldn't blame all men for that. 
Blame the bad man.

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Can you find me  news article where it says she was raped? I can't seemed to find one? To my knowledge she wasn't raped. She was just beaten and murdered.  I have no prejudice here. All I care about is justice and fair reporting and no bias.
Jeez, how hard are you looking?  Do a quick Google search, and just about every news source mentions that he is also being charged with attempted rape.  Here is just one
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Or perhaps I should ask, where are you looking?  But then I wouldn't call most of our tabloid press "lefty" at the same time as saying I have no prejudice!


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Can you find me  news article where it says she was raped? I can't seemed to find one? To my knowledge she wasn't raped. She was just beaten and murdered.  I have no prejudice here. All I care about is justice and fair reporting and no bias.


So what would you call fair for a scumbag prowling the streets in the early hours, trying to rape a woman returning from a night out, robbing her then battering her to death ?
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For instance the leftist mps bang on about teaching men how to "not rape" . Oh yes. That have been spoken about.  Not blatant but it has. I have no interest in being violent to any Man or woman.  Nobody needs to teach me how not to be "bad".
I take your point. Much more woman than men do get  rape.
But the media and leftist can't and shouldn't blame all men for that. 
And having given you the example you asked for, can you please supply me with an example where msm have said anything about teaching men not to rape with regards to this murder?


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In the early hours, the streets of towns and cities were once where those on the razzle were finding their way home, early workers on their way to work, street cleaners and the like already at work and a Police presence.

Not anymore, all sorts wandering around, on foot or on a cycle, some in cars pretending to be cabs, often had an early hours drive into London with a young lady, seen females making their way home from a night out, stalked and hassled and groups of men prowling the streets with no obvious reason to be there, particularly on mild nights, sometimes gone way over west on empty roads, prime target for Plod looking for a drink driver, would have been stopped often back in the day, but there is no Police presence any more, they only react to calls.

Until the Authorities take back the streets, this will keep happening, very obviously some men do not know how to behave, leave women walking home alone, if you go out in the early hours you will see it for yourself. The article does have a point.

How do Plod react? finding coppers to create a street presence for a few days, after the incident, does anyone else feel this is a pathetic response?

Couldn't agree more. Up here on Teesside, you hardly ever see a police car unless it's doing 90 with the blues and twos going as it races to an incident. The days of cop cars patrolling looking for problems seems to be long gone. I read that some forces no longer even run a dedicated traffic division because of cutbacks, everyone is simply on general duties. The standard of driving has now become atrocious, I see wankers doing about 60 through 30 areas all the time, usually, but not exclusively, in Beamers or Audis. As you say, the authourities need to take back the streets.

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Agreed the police are now a reactionary institution. Maybe they should review how the fire service work, who are now largely pro-active and are achieving great results.

I agree with one of the comments above, the streets at night are now almost 'no go zone' for normal folks.

Terrible shame for this young lady, with so much to look forward too. Hopefully the scumbag will get a nice long sentence, and a good kicking thrown in :hi:

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Couldn't agree more. Up here on Teesside, you hardly ever see a police car unless it's doing 90 with the blues and twos going as it races to an incident. The days of cop cars patrolling looking for problems seems to be long gone. I read that some forces no longer even run a dedicated traffic division because of cutbacks, everyone is simply on general duties. The standard of driving has now become atrocious, I see wankers doing about 60 through 30 areas all the time, usually, but not exclusively, in Beamers or Audis. As you say, the authourities need to take back the streets.

Not only in cars patrolling, feet on the ground, or pedals  :D, They can find them after an incident, to reassure the public, what a load of bollocks that is.

Honestly, I drive untaxed, outwardly uninsured vehicles all over the country sometimes and a lot locally, I CBA anymore to put them on the database or put the trade plates on, the last time I got stopped was with the car with a drugs marker, and that must be 8 to 10 years ago.

I once went to collect an E55 AMG from North of Cambridge, I arrived to find the previous owner had removed his personal reg., plates and all, had not brought the trade plates, so off I went to Maldon with no plates on the car.

I got stopped on the outskirts of Maldon, not surprised I got that far, said I stuck new plates on with sticky pads, " they must have fallen off"  Asked where I was going, that was it. They do not give a fuck.

This prick in the OP does not deserve a fair anything in my book, there are loads more prowling the streets in the early hours, freely without a blind bit of notice from Plod. Until it is too late. 
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Where is misogyny or any variant on the word used in the OP article?

Who is saying it's a misogynistic crime?

There is no revelation about the motivation for the crime in the article so how can you ascribe one, especially a hate crime?

No one quoted in the article is making that claim. 

I would hope peace-loving, civil-minded people on the centre and Right-wing of politics would also be condemning bad male behaviour.

Seem that OP is just unleashing a rabid rant against the Left-wing msm by disrespecting the memory of this victim.  Perhaps that was the mysogynistic action in his mind.

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So what would you call fair for a scumbag prowling the streets in the early hours, trying to rape a woman returning from a night out, robbing her then battering her to death ?

I did not say that  :unknown:

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Agreed the police are now a reactionary institution. Maybe they should review how the fire service work, who are now largely pro-active and are achieving great results.
The big difference is that the fire service spend a large part of their day waiting for a call-out, so can spend that time doing pro-active work.

It was a bad move taking police off the streets and putting them into patrol cars, breaking the link between police and public, but realistically it was the only way they were going to spread their resources ever more thinly.  That and government measuring their performance by time to respond to incidents, rather than stopping crime in the first place.

As Aldebaran pointed out, the police have been subjected to so many cut-backs over the years.  Police numbers should have been increasing to match the increase in population, but instead they were subjected to cut-backs.  It would be interesting to see a comparison between numbers of policemen per head of population in say the 1950s and now.  Or how much we pay for policing per head of population then and now.


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And having given you the example you asked for, can you please supply me with an example where msm have said anything about teaching men not to rape with regards to this murder?

I will look and will post it in a while. The stuff I have heard has been from the tv from passing. I will look online and post it on here.
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And having given you the example you asked for, can you please supply me with an example where msm have said anything about teaching men not to rape with regards to this murder?

I can't seem to find an example from British msm going back within the last three years. 

But I know what I heard on the msm. Believe me or not.
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The big difference is that the fire service spend a large part of their day waiting for a call-out, so can spend that time doing pro-active work.

It was a bad move taking police off the streets and putting them into patrol cars, breaking the link between police and public, but realistically it was the only way they were going to spread their resources ever more thinly.  That and government measuring their performance by time to respond to incidents, rather than stopping crime in the first place.

As Aldebaran pointed out, the police have been subjected to so many cut-backs over the years.  Police numbers should have been increasing to match the increase in population, but instead they were subjected to cut-backs.  It would be interesting to see a comparison between numbers of policemen per head of population in say the 1950s and now.  Or how much we pay for policing per head of population then and now.

policing has moved on, police management is way better than it was years ago, the idea that having extremely expensive and highly trained individuals walking pointlessly about is absurd,

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policing has moved on, police management is way better than it was years ago, the idea that having extremely expensive and highly trained individuals walking pointlessly about is absurd,

You mean individuals like this  :D

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Utterly ridiculous statement, the streets are a law unto themselves because the pricks are poorly managed and will not get out of a car.
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I can't seem to find an example from British msm going back within the last three years. 
But I know what I heard on the msm. Believe me or not.
So this wasn't a case of the msm using this incident as an excuse to have a misogynistic rant about men after all.  It was you using this poor woman's death as an excuse to have a misogynistic rant about something you vaguely remember in the msm from years back.