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Offline Jimmyredcab

Took me 2 minutes to find this, from the BBC website.  :unknown:

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Fair enough, are you saying that no British murderer has even gone on to kill again on release. ??????
I'm not saying that at all, I was explaining the way sentencing works in this country and that is by part in prison and part on licence or in the case of a suspended sentence all on licence.

The fact a convicted killer has come into this country is not a failing in the British judicial system, it is a failing elsewhere.

Took me 2 minutes to find this, from the BBC website.  :unknown:

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Not sure what that has to do with the way sentencing works either.   :unknown:
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Offline RAJEC

Was the 4th unidentified male JC???

Offline Plan R

£1250 in cash, assuming 10yrs served that's 125 GBP per year of jail time. Between three of them.
Nice work Einsteins.
Hopefully by the time they're out they'll have arseholes like the Blackwall Tunnel.

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I really don't think you understand the british sentencing system, you keep saying that you do, then make comments clearly indicating that you don't. It's pretty good and for damn sure better than US style "life means life".

By having people serve 9 years on licence, they have to keep their nose clean for 9 years. I.e. habit form a crime free lifestyle during that time. By having the offender reform, you actually protect the community. That is the thought behind the system.

That is the thought !
In an ideal world of course, reform would work.
But of course it does'nt,
I do not agree either with your statement that our system is better then the US......America certainly has its faults (a lot actually)
But what is wrong with life meaning life.

Let me put it this way.
Henry Long, Jessie Cole and Albert Bowers were sent to prison. Having been found guilty of a police officers death...manslaughter. They will be eligible for release after two thirds of their sentence has been served.
16 years and 13 years each respectively.

In the courtroom they smiled and waved at family as they were led down after sentencing. No remorse, no sense of guilt, no empathy whatsoever. Because they could not give a fuck.
There is not a single fraction of doubt in my mind that these three twats will ever reform.
But as you say. Lets spend a lot of our tax money on at least trying.

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Judges pass sentences that reflect the length of time they want them in prison, if he wants them in prison for 9 years the sentence is 18, if they were to serve all the sentence given in prison the sentence would be 9 to achieve the same result. Only that way they would not be on licence for 9 years so the sentence would be shorter. They state a minimum term of a life sentence because that's how long the want them locked up.

Or do you really think it comes as a surprise to a judge that they only serve half of the sentence actually in prison.   :unknown:


I do not think that at all and there is nothing I have said that should make you think I do.
My argument is a very simple one.
Wen a judge passes sentence and gives out 18 years....then in my view it should mean 18 years of prison time. After that the person released can be out on license etc.

In truth I believe our sentences are too soft.

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I do not think that at all and there is nothing I have said that should make you think I do.
My argument is a very simple one.
Wen a judge passes sentence and gives out 18 years....then in my view it should mean 18 years of prison time. After that the person released can be out on license etc.

In truth I believe our sentences are too soft.
That is the part you don't seem to understand, if the judge wants to give 9 years in jail he passes an 18 year sentence so the 9 is done in prison then another 9 as a safety net out on licence. When passing an 18 year sentence it is never intended to be 18 years inside.

Serving the full term inside means there is no licence period after release.


Offline Matrix

£1250 in cash, assuming 10yrs served that's 125 GBP per year of jail time. Between three of them.
Nice work Einsteins.
Hopefully by the time they're out they'll have arseholes like the Blackwall Tunnel.

Roughly 10p a day, per chump!

Offline Ybadman

That is the part you don't seem to understand, if the judge wants to give 9 years in jail he passes an 18 year sentence so the 9 is done in prison then another 9 as a safety net out on licence. When passing an 18 year sentence it is never intended to be 18 years inside.

Serving the full term inside means there is no licence period after release.

A judge usually does not have that much discretion in regards to sentencing.

Personally I do feel sentences in this country for violent crime are too lenient but those sentences are put in place by parliament and the unelected sentencing council.

I do believe in rehabilitation but I also believe that some of the pathetic sentences we see for violent crime actually damages the integrity of the judicial system in the eyes of the public.

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That is the part you don't seem to understand, if the judge wants to give 9 years in jail he passes an 18 year sentence so the 9 is done in prison then another 9 as a safety net out on licence. When passing an 18 year sentence it is never intended to be 18 years inside.

Serving the full term inside means there is no licence period after release.


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We at cross purposes and I assure you I do understand.   I’m just not making myself clear in truth.

Harsher sentences followed by licensing..... way to go  :yahoo:

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A judge usually does not have that much discretion in regards to sentencing.

Personally I do feel sentences in this country for violent crime are too lenient but those sentences are put in place by parliament and the unelected sentencing council.

I do believe in rehabilitation but I also believe that some of the pathetic sentences we see for violent crime actually damages the integrity of the judicial system in the eyes of the public.

More or less what I was getting at  :P

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Proven reoffending statistics make for interesting reading on the gov web site.
Records for 2020/21 will be released in May.

Rehabilitation is one of those discussions that vary from country to country. I think Scandinavian countries have a higher success rate than here for instance.
So why is that.

Lots and lots of differences regarding populous is one thing.

Offline bukowski

They done all of that for less than £2000. How much does that work out per year they will be jail for? I don't understand the logic at all.


the only logic is they wanted to do it
they did not care
they did not expect the victims to contact the police


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Offline Jimmyredcab

£1250 in cash, assuming 10yrs served that's 125 GBP per year of jail time. Between three of them.
Nice work Einsteins.

Most crimes don’t justify the possible sentence, unless you have the brains to carry out a Brinks-Mat style robbery or a Hatton Garden heist.  :thumbsdown:

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Fair enough, are you saying that no British murderer has even gone on to kill again on release. ??????

No one is saying that.

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Most crimes don’t justify the possible sentence, unless you have the brains to carry out a Brinks-Mat style robbery or a Hatton Garden heist.  :thumbsdown:

Absolutely.

A friend of mine worked for a bank. She told a couple of stories where a member of staff had been caught with their hand in the till. Or transferring cash from other peoples accounts etc.
So they ended up sacked, criminal records etc.
But the daft thing was it was never for hundreds of thousands of quid. It was always some stupidly low amount.
Why bother !!!

Offline Adoniron

They call us time wasters if we cancel but if they do it we are supposed to accept its for a good reason.

Always have a plan B (and sometimes C).

Offline tynetunnel

Most crimes don’t justify the possible sentence, unless you have the brains to carry out a Brinks-Mat style robbery or a Hatton Garden heist.  :thumbsdown:

Exactly. Many years ago I worked for a cash heavy business where the owner would go abroad for weeks at a time leaving me in charge of it all, including banking. I could probably have saved up a couple of hundred grand during such a period and done a runner with it all. But even £200,000 wouldn’t have been enough to warrant a lifetime looking over my shoulder, dreading a knock at the door, and/or a potential prison sentence. Plus I’m a nice guy and it’s not in my nature! But seriously, why risk your liberty, and good name just for a few lousy quid. Bloody fools!

Offline Greenchilli

the only logic is they wanted to do it
they did not care
they did not expect the victims to contact the police

A lot of such robberies are not reported for 'known' reasons.

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They call us time wasters if we cancel but if they do it we are supposed to accept its for a good reason.

Always have a plan B (and sometimes C).


But of a mix up in threads I’m guessing  :D

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I have to admit. I get a little fed up with this whole idea that it’s the system that fails everybody.
Oh they came from a broken home.
The family unit was poor.
They grew up in an area without a library or grass to play on.


There are plenty of deprived kids who grew up in far worse conditions but they don’t grow up to rob and rape.

There are whole psychological arguments about evil being inflicted upon someone versus people actually just being born with an evil nature.
Personally I think both are true.

People commit all kinds of heinous crimes. But rape.........I’d have the bastards castrated and that’s just the start. Fucking trash.

1000% its a choice todo what they did and to behave that way, nobody made them choose to do that

Scum whatever colour or nationality is scum.

Offline cotton

the only logic is they wanted to do it
they did not care
they did not expect the victims to contact the police
Yeh plus one of the defendants was apparently owed money which set the wheels in motion , moral of the story if you getting local thugs to do security make sure you pay them so they dont have a grudge.
Shame for the women tho , one had only been in this country a number of days , unfortunate that they bore the brunt of the attack while the persons responsible for the pay dispute were presumably absent.

Offline laurenb

Three years ago an agency escort was killed at the flat across my street .
Police visited literally everyone asking if we saw the man .
He apparently heard the voices in his head , local hospital turned him down,
The same day he booked this Colombian lady and killed her .
He was later arrested in Central London .
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Offline RAJEC

Three years ago an agency escort was killed at the flat across my street .
Police visited literally everyone asking if we saw the man .
He apparently heard the voices in his head , local hospital turned him down,
The same day he booked this Colombian lady and killed her .
He was later arrested in Central London .

Stop posting bollocks everywhere you fucking twat

Offline Macmillan1964

Absolutely frightening . I remember reading about in at the local newspaper .
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