Punting rates- What should be the upper limit £80 hour max?

[Hornylad]

Guys we can look at it both ways.. some are cheap but offer a good service and some dont who are also cheap. we cant generalise its down to the individual. for example william looman mentions he sees a girl regularly for £60 (please share her link or details) assuming she must be good if he keeps going to see her.  on the side you have people paying over the odds for a terrible service..

[Moby Dick]

Guys we can look at it both ways.. some are cheap but offer a good service and some dont who are also cheap. we cant generalise its down to the individual. for example william looman mentions he sees a girl regularly for £60 (please share her link or details) assuming she must be good if he keeps going to see her.  on the side you have people paying over the odds for a terrible service..

Probably cost you more for fuel/travel.

You given up on setting limits then. What did the lovely ladies say to you on the other site?

[lamboman]

it's to the girl how much is charges 
and good luck too them
i have a limit of £60/100
if they fit in my bracket and my type i'll see them
just set your price limit and work from that

I've never seen anybody at those rates within 30 miles of my place,you up North?

[willie loman]

Do you think that''s simply due to the Scottish cities being more economically depressed than most of the rest of the UK?

The point i am making is to compare sauna prices to adultworkd prices, saunas being mature businesses, charge realistic prices, compared to adultwork, regardless of area, scotland is by no means economically depressed, plenty of english tourers up here, as wel all  have plenty of disposable income.

[Brumish]

The covid situation has affected us all.

Should girls who charge ridiculous rates have like a universal rate of £60-80 per hour and £50 for 30 mins?

Surely this would benefit them as they would get more customers?

Plus punters will be more happy and will return more often?

what do u think? any SP’s who would jump on this band wagon?

I know i would become a regular..

An interesting take, but you have to consider the so called average pre lockdown rate, and assess whether the market forces are there to suppress it to a lower level than those.
Ultimately it's a wide combination of value, experience and potential quality.
I've done 100-180 pH equivalents but have realised although most try to stay with their peers, there is always room for negotiations.
The scene since March has perhaps provided us with an insight into how the UK shag market might operate post Brexit - an increased quality in EE girls, a realistic rate of around 100 pH and, shockingly, most of the Viva Street adverts are genuine and pretty decent.

[willie loman]

people keep proclaiming that the sex industry is a free market, if only it was, punts would be way cheaper than they are, my experience is only limited to britain, but there is no ryan air or uber or indeed kwikfit etc ,in the world of sex, its not going to change any day soon, fortunately even though its a completely disorganised market, punting in most cities is possible at an acceptable rate for 30 minutes, for me thats around 70-80. look at the porn world that genuinely is a free market, in my teenage years, hard porn cost a fortune, now hardly anyone pays for porn.

[Punterperson1971]

people keep proclaiming that the sex industry is a free market, if only it was, punts would be way cheaper than they are, my experience is only limited to britain, but there is no ryan air or uber or indeed kwikfit etc ,in the world of sex, its not going to change any day soon, fortunately even though its a completely disorganised market, punting in most cities is possible at an acceptable rate for 30 minutes, for me thats around 70-80.

Whatever you pay doesn’t always mean you get good or bad service it depends on the girl not her prices

[lamboman]

people keep proclaiming that the sex industry is a free market, if only it was, punts would be way cheaper than they are, my experience is only limited to britain, but there is no ryan air or uber or indeed kwikfit etc ,in the world of sex, its not going to change any day soon, fortunately even though its a completely disorganised market, punting in most cities is possible at an acceptable rate for 30 minutes, for me thats around 70-80.

Well it is a free market prices will reflect supply and demand,I think supply will outstrip demand this year.

[Suffolkseeker]

OP i mean no disrespect when saying this but what you/i/we want is largely irrelevant.

I would like to pay £20ph or £150 for an overnight booking but it doesn't mean that's what will ever happen.

The only people who know how many clients an escort is seeing is the escort herself. If she has a dusty phone she'll reduce her prices to increase her demand & in turn her earnings. If her phone is ringing non-stop then maybe she'll increase her prices. The key point here is they'll make decisions to increase their earnings.

Girls that restrict themselves to seeing a few clients a day, by their own choice, but charge a premium to them few punters aren't going to decrease their prices just because of pandemic/lockdowns etc to see or accomodate more clients IF they don't have to. Any girl choosing to do this would quite frankly be insane 

I'm not sure what you were hoping to achieve when starting this thread? 

Great Point well made !!!

[Moby Dick]

Well it is a free market prices will reflect supply and demand,I think supply will outstrip demand this year.

Probably so for the next few years.
Spare money for many will become less due to inflation
(Inflation will be encouraged by the treasury in an attempt to depreciate the national debt)
Wages won’t increase, many will be grateful to have a job.
Less jobs: More sex workers.
Not sure what will happen with the numbers of foreign/migrant sex workers, as travel and borders become more restrictive.

However WG are stubborn and they won’t reduce their prices to attract more customers. Their logic will be to increase prices to recover the money lost. That’s what appeared to happen throughout last year, partly to reduce their pandemic risks by doing less.

Having said that the retired punters on their index linked annuities will have the spending power.
So the old UKP guard may add to pussy inflation.

[willie loman]

Well it is a free market prices will reflect supply and demand,I think supply will outstrip demand this year.

when supply outstrips demand, what happens in a free market? There is hardly a city in britain in the last 20 years where supply hasnt outstripped demand by a very long way.plus of course immigrants who keep prices stagnant in any other field of economic activity, not to mention that much of the activity is cash in hand, which keeps prices down in any other field of economic activity, plus barriers to entry consist of owning a phone.

[lamboman]

Probably so.
Spare money for many will become less due to inflation
(Inflation will be encouraged by the treasury in an attempt to depreciate the national debt)
Wages won’t increase, many will be grateful to have a job.
Less jobs: More sex workers.
Not sure what will happen with the numbers of foreign/migrant sex workers, as travel and borders become more restrictive.

However WG are stubborn and they won’t reduce their prices to attract more customers. Their logic will be to increase prices to recover the money lost. That’s what appeared to happen throughout last year, partly to reduce their pandemic risks by doing less.

Agreed I don't think they can hold out much longer though,luckily for them furlough and SEISS continues for the time being.

[Hornylad]

yes pal in yorkshire

[bnhdgsn]

They should make fillet steak 50p a pound - they'd sell loads. Also, those Gu desserts can be pretty nice; they should make those cheaper.

[Wood2017]

Great Point well made !!!

Thanks mate 

I'm amazed the thread's still going, it's not like we're not going to change anything regarding pricing

I might join a forum for supercar owners proposing manufacturers reduce their prices too, i'd love a Ferrari 

[Deepstroker]

I dont think it matters what WGs charge. Its more about what you are prepared to pay. My upper limit would be 140ph and that would have to be for a well reviewed quality experience.

There seems to be no shortage o good value reasonable quality experiences in some parlours.

I am far far more discriminating now as i got so jaded and fed up with the scene that i stopped but i still look and am tempted . Trouble is, they all see what eachother charges on AW and they maintain the same prices and worse, they increase them sometimes to ridiculous amounts.

I people pay, they ill continue to charge and once they are used to clocking 150-200 an hour, well they are not likely to go back to 100 ph are they ?

[The_Don]

Like I said before, it up to the W/G what price she set/charges. Some punters will pay, others will not and move on.

[bobby1973]

I've never seen anybody at those rates within 30 miles of my place,you up North?

i'm just north of london check my reviews
a lot are massage/b2b + but not all
have fun it's not about paying top price

[Colston36]

As a sad old person with fuck all to do sex-wise I was thinking about this idea today.

The only place where prices were controlled that I have experienced was Russia. The result? Service and quality were utter shit.

I had probably the worst meal of my life with the rudest people in Odessa - then USSR and now Ukraine. Even the woman selling ice cream was obnoxious.

In this life you get what you pay for - or you don't go back.

[Blackpool Rock]

As a sad old person with fuck all to do sex-wise I was thinking about this idea today.

The only place where prices were controlled that I have experienced was Russia. The result? Service and quality were utter shit.

I had probably the worst meal of my life with the rudest people in Odessa - then USSR and now Ukraine. Even the woman selling ice cream was obnoxious.

In this life you get what you pay for - or you don't go back.

I don't think that's anything to do with prices being controlled I just think Russians are generally rude and obnoxious.
I knew a girl about 10 years ago who was half Russian and half German but lived and worked in Germany and as far as I know was raised there too.
She was the most friendly bubbly and happy smiling person you could hope to meet but she told me about her visit to Russia to meet family and how rude / horrible all Russians seemed to be.
Think there was an incident in a pharmacy when she needed medication, bearing in mind the language barrier she tried to confirm how many tablets she needed to take how many times a day and was snapped at that she'd already been told once, the pharmacist then refused to talk to her anymore 

[chadpitt]

I'm with the OP that prices should go down and stay there.

To all the cucks saying women are free to charge what they want, you're part of the problem and not the solution  . Not only are you acting against your own self-interests but you are ruining it for thousands of other men. You should actively aim to pay less because it's in YOUR interests. It greatly increases the risk/reward ration and better ROI.

Let's be real here, punting was better when rates were less and I dare anyone to truthfully admit punting now with higher prices is better than before 2016 before the pound crashed.

[luv2kiss54]

I dont think it matters what WGs charge. Its more about what you are prepared to pay. My upper limit would be 140ph and that would have to be for a well reviewed quality experience.

There seems to be no shortage o good value reasonable quality experiences in some parlours.

I am far far more discriminating now as i got so jaded and fed up with the scene that i stopped but i still look and am tempted . Trouble is, they all see what eachother charges on AW and they maintain the same prices and worse, they increase them sometimes to ridiculous amounts.

I people pay, they ill continue to charge and once they are used to clocking 150-200 an hour, well they are not likely to go back to 100 ph are they ?

I agree. I have my personal limits that i wont exceed. Some of the prices are bonkers but you cant blame girls for trying to get the most they can as we all do for our particular skills, they just wont get my business. Escorting is no different to any other product if as a punter you think something is too expensive you wont pay it.

[Jimmyredcab]

Let's be real here, punting was better when rates were less and I dare anyone to truthfully admit punting now with higher prices is better than before 2016 before the pound crashed.

The pound didn’t “crash”, it lost around 15% compared to the Euro, irrelevant in punting circles. 

[luv2kiss54]

Probably so for the next few years.
Spare money for many will become less due to inflation
(Inflation will be encouraged by the treasury in an attempt to depreciate the national debt)
Wages won’t increase, many will be grateful to have a job.
Less jobs: More sex workers.
Not sure what will happen with the numbers of foreign/migrant sex workers, as travel and borders become more restrictive.

However WG are stubborn and they won’t reduce their prices to attract more customers. Their logic will be to increase prices to recover the money lost. That’s what appeared to happen throughout last year, partly to reduce their pandemic risks by doing less.

When this nightmare pandemic finishes escorts will be able to cash in as demand will outstrip supply. There are many punters who have stopped punting and will have money to spend and eager to resume when its safe.

Having said that the retired punters on their index linked annuities will have the spending power.
So the old UKP guard may add to pussy inflation.

[luv2kiss54]

When this nightmare pandemic finishes escorts will be able to cash in as demand will outstrip supply. There are many punters who have stopped punting and will have money to spend and eager to resume when its safe.

[Blackpool Rock]

I'm with the OP that prices should go down and stay there.

To all the cucks saying women are free to charge what they want, you're part of the problem and not the solution  . Not only are you acting against your own self-interests but you are ruining it for thousands of other men. You should actively aim to pay less because it's in YOUR interests. It greatly increases the risk/reward ration and better ROI.

Let's be real here, punting was better when rates were less and I dare anyone to truthfully admit punting now with higher prices is better than before 2016 before the pound crashed.

I agree as much as anyone that prices are too high and Indi's do appear to have bumped them up over the last few years however I prefer parlours and the prices in the NW haven't gone up in the last few years, to my mind they represent the best value.

I don't like picking up on peoples reviews and i'm not having a dig however you do have quite a few £80/hr Negatives which i'd agree is a waste of £80 so perhaps having 2 decent punts at £120/hr would have been better value than 3 shit punts at £80 

There have been previous threads where people have quoted paying XYZ for a girl back in 1984 so now paying ZYX is daylight robbery however when I looked online using an inflation calculator prices were broadly in line with inflation and in many cases cheaper

I do agree though we all have a part to play in not punting a girl when her price is just taking the piss, I have limits in my head based on parlour prices but rather than driving the 100 mile round trip to Manchester which will cost me £15-£20 in fuel / ware and tear etc I will make a call and go £10 / £20 over my limit to punt a girl locally as I save that money in fuel however I won't go over my limit by say £40 on principle


When I 1st started drinking in pubs a pint was about 75-80p and a relation 10 years older said he still worked on 50p being reasonable, we do need to factor in inflation as you can't even get a packet of nuts for 50p now 

[daviemac]

I'm with the OP that prices should go down and stay there.

To all the cucks saying women are free to charge what they want, you're part of the problem and not the solution  . Not only are you acting against your own self-interests but you are ruining it for thousands of other men. You should actively aim to pay less because it's in YOUR interests. It greatly increases the risk/reward ration and better ROI.

Let's be real here, punting was better when rates were less and I dare anyone to truthfully admit punting now with higher prices is better than before 2016 before the pound crashed.

Not all areas are the same, rates have mostly stayed the same since before 2016 where I am. 

[Moby Dick]

When this nightmare pandemic finishes escorts will be able to cash in as demand will outstrip supply. There are many punters who have stopped punting and will have money to spend and eager to resume when its safe.

The busy WG will try to increase prices as punting becomes safer.
There will be punters that are fortunate to keep their jobs (plus the retired) that won’t feel the pinch.
But how many less fortunate punters will there be?
I expect a short blip of a increase and then prices will remain as per pre March 2020.
Simply don’t pay the increase, stick with a regular and don’t accept an increase, shag the missus or have a wank.
Don’t join the rush, and punt responsibly otherwise you fuck it up for everyone.

[Moby Dick]

The pound didn’t “crash”, it lost around 15% compared to the Euro, irrelevant in punting circles. 

Exactly back to the level it was already at in 2015.

The banking fiasco of 2009 fucked up the exchange rate well before Brexit.
I regularly used to punt in the Euro zone, but then it suddenly became less value for money, so went back to parlours on the way to UK airports to reduce the urge when away.

My busiest years were probably between 1998-2010.
The internet has improved the access and visibility of what you can get. But at the same time has resulted in price increases (due partly to positive reviews).

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[alabama1]

When this nightmare pandemic finishes escorts will be able to cash in as demand will outstrip supply. There are many punters who have stopped punting and will have money to spend and eager to resume when its safe.

That is wishful thinking if you are a wg. I for one have spent my money already on other things. I would also guess that some punters have broken the habit, never to return.

[alabama1]

Oh, and sadly others may not return because they have died 

[Brumish]

Oh, and sadly others may not return because they have died 

They're probably having a ball with what the seven wives that they're allowed.  I'd personally have put six on my will as I'd like to keep Sunday free to do a knuckle shuffle and remember the holy ghost. 

[Brumish]

That is wishful thinking if you are a wg. I for one have spent my money already on other things. I would also guess that some punters have broken the habit, never to return.

Once the balancing of books comes into play, and inevitably it will be the working class on the median getting shafted the most, a lot of street walking will come back. We could yet be returning to the £20 a pop scenario.

[MilleMiglia]

That is wishful thinking if you are a wg. I for one have spent my money already on other things. I would also guess that some punters have broken the habit, never to return.

I've been thinking this for a while. I recall reading an article about breaking habits and, although I don't remember the time period quoted, it wasn't that long. My guess is that a lot of guys have looked at the money that has accumulated in their account, begun to see it in terms of what it could buy in the way of other things, and either started to indulge their hobbies, or spent the money on more mundane, practical matters.

[lamboman]

As a sad old person with fuck all to do sex-wise I was thinking about this idea today.

The only place where prices were controlled that I have experienced was Russia. The result? Service and quality were utter shit.

I had probably the worst meal of my life with the rudest people in Odessa - then USSR and now Ukraine. Even the woman selling ice cream was obnoxious.

In this life you get what you pay for - or you don't go back.

Met lots of Russians ,never a nice one the men are the rudest most ignorant ,arrogant people you can meet.The women not much better.

[Horseman]

I've been thinking this for a while. I recall reading an article about breaking habits and, although I don't remember the time period quoted, it wasn't that long. My guess is that a lot of guys have looked at the money that has accumulated in their account, begun to see it in terms of what it could buy in the way of other things, and either started to indulge their hobbies, or spent the money on more mundane, practical matters.

About 7 years a go on a trip abroad I managed to pick up several thousand very cheap cigarettes (was outside the EU so zero tax and when I say cheap I mean ridiculously cheap) Needless to say I didn't need to buy any at home for a long long time. About 3 months after getting home I was sorting through my finances and realised I had hundreds of pounds more sat in my account than I expected. (worth noting at this time I was child free and not great at actually checking my balance, I earned enough to not worry about it so long as I didn't go mad)

After checking that everything that should have been paid had indeed been paid it struck me the only thing I wasn't spending money on that I used to was smoking. Then I sat and thought about it. Aprox £6 a packet at at least 1 packet a day was £180 a month plus extra when I went out (which was a lot back then) The realisation how much I was spending on cigarettes was the push I needed to stop. I haven't had so much as a one since.

There will be more than one punter who'll have this same realisation and stop I expect.

[Wood2017]

I've been thinking this for a while. I recall reading an article about breaking habits and, although I don't remember the time period quoted, it wasn't that long. My guess is that a lot of guys have looked at the money that has accumulated in their account, begun to see it in terms of what it could buy in the way of other things, and either started to indulge their hobbies, or spent the money on more mundane, practical matters.

I can see there being a lot of truth in this.  Punting is after all just a luxury service/experience.

For some i'd imagine enforced time away during lockdowns/pandemics will lead to them realising they can do without this hobby, for others when normality returns there might just be things that are a far higher priority. If i was given £400/£500 & told i could either have a long booking last several hours or a city break away somewhere i'm taking that city break without any hesitation, assuming things were 'normal' again.

[Wood2017]

That's a great analogy Horseman 

I didn't see it before i hit post on my own as i took too long to write my message lol.

I think your smoking apiphenany might ring true for some punters, even if only a small percentage.

[Horseman]

That's a great analogy Horseman 

I didn't see it before i hit post on my own as i took too long to write my message lol.

I think your smoking apiphenany might ring true for some punters, even if only a small percentage.

Indeed - it won't be for everyone. I myself will not stop even though I saved some money through the year (no punting from 1st lockdown until November!) But then I'm not normally that prolific.

I guess it will depend on the individuals reasons for punting. The guy in a dead bedroom marriage who doesn't want to leave but still has needs will almost certainly return to punting. Someone who does/did it for the extra thrill outside a healthy relationship might just decide the money is better spent elsewhere.