AW likes - Why is there ‘Bareback’ and ‘Unprotected Sex’?

[Scottish81]

Was looking on AW at a girl I was thinking of meeting.  I always have a scan for the dreaded ‘bareback’ on the likes list or in the profile and it wasn’t there, great!  However, a look down her likes list threw up ‘unprotected sex’.  What, if anything, is the difference between the two?  Does US include oral, whereas BB is penetration?  The fact that there is any ambiguity at all should render one or the other term redundant for me.

Why would AW have two almost identical terms for the same thing?

[winkywanky]

Was looking on AW at a girl I was thinking of meeting.  I always have a scan for the dreaded ‘bareback’ on the likes list or in the profile and it wasn’t there, great!  However, a look down her likes list threw up ‘unprotected sex’.  What, if anything, is the difference between the two?  Does US include oral, whereas BB is penetration?  The fact that there is any ambiguity at all should render one or the other term redundant for me.

Why would AW have two almost identical terms for the same thing?

BB and US are generally accepted to mean the same thing, ie unprotected penetrative sex.

Very occasionally a WG will make the 'mistake' of thinking that BB can represent bare oral, but that's patently bollocks because further down the same Enjoys list is Oral Without.

Always assume they mean exactly the same thing, for 99% of sane people that's exactly what they do mean, fucking bare, without a condom.

[Scottish81]

Just as I was thinking.  As it happens the SP I was asking responses to say that she does do bareback sex, so it’s another one for the blacklist.

[Happylad]

Was looking on AW at a girl I was thinking of meeting.  I always have a scan for the dreaded ‘bareback’ on the likes list or in the profile and it wasn’t there, great!  However, a look down her likes list threw up ‘unprotected sex’.  What, if anything, is the difference between the two?  Does US include oral, whereas BB is penetration?  The fact that there is any ambiguity at all should render one or the other term redundant for me.

Why would AW have two almost identical terms for the same thing?

Simply so that everybody can stick to the small print but still have it both ways without fear of argument.  Simple!

[millbush]

Well I've seen one "ticked",one "unticked" where the girl uses a femidom,somewhat confusing and off putting though.

[Gordon Bennett]

To be fair, I was unaware of the unprotected sex option for years - never looked that far down the list. It's conceivable a lady could consciously de-select Bareback but, like I did, miss the need to de-select Unprotected Sex too? Even today, I can't hand on heart say I always remember to scroll all the way down there. I always look for absence of the Bareback service though.

[WASA38]

Another source of confusion is the SP who lists bareback and unprotected sex in her Enjoys list but declares 'no way' in her profile.

Have just messaged a local Rom asking which it is and pointing out that it is a certain way of deterring all would-be punters but she hasn't logged on yet.

Am unlikely to avail myself of her services in any event. Silly mare.

[RedKettle]

With some of the foreign girls you could see that they might get confused given poor English. However in my view you cannot take the risk so if either ticked I assume the worst and avoid.

[rockharders]

bareback is punters lingo, unprotected is not.
Therefore "unprotected" could be there for the idiots who don't know what BB means.

[freeze44]

Well I've seen one "ticked",one "unticked" where the girl uses a femidom,somewhat confusing and off putting though.

Have you now  Crap input as ever!

[RedKettle]

bareback is punters lingo, unprotected is not.
Therefore "unprotected" could be there for the idiots who don't know what BB means.

That makes sense.

[winkywanky]

It does indeed, and thank God I'm a punter and not an idiot  .

[sunnyj]

Few years ago I punted a touring English WG near Heathrow without going through her complete enjoys list.  On her profile, "Bareback" was unselected and "Unprotected Sex" was selected. It was a last minute booking with short notice, so I failed to notice it. 
She looked good, got decent service and overall it was a positive experience. I usually go for OW and I realised she was a barebacker only during post punt chat. 

I posted her profile under "Bareback Avoidance Thread" and didn't write a positive review. One of the few valid reasons I see for not reviewing a punt. 

[Rochelle]

To be fair, I was unaware of the unprotected sex option for years - never looked that far down the list. It's conceivable a lady could consciously de-select Bareback but, like I did, miss the need to de-select Unprotected Sex too? Even today, I can't hand on heart say I always remember to scroll all the way down there. I always look for absence of the Bareback service though.

If you're an escort, you should be looking at the entire list so you can make sure you're not offering anything you don't want to. If would be very stupid if you didn't.

[Londonpunter30]

It’s just another sign of how crap AW is.  The could just put Bareback (unprotected sex) as one option , but that would be good for SPs and punters so they won’t.

Plenty of non English girls have no idea what they are selecting , having things listed twice doesn’t help

[Rochelle]

It’s just another sign of how crap AW is.  The could just put Bareback (unprotected sex) as one option , but that would be good for SPs and punters so they won’t.

Plenty of non English girls have no idea what they are selecting , having things listed twice doesn’t help

If they're independent then it doesn't matter if they're English or not. There are things on the list that I didn't know about at first. It only takes a few seconds to search the Internet.

[winkywanky]

If they're independent then it doesn't matter if they're English or not. There are things on the list that I didn't know about at first. It only takes a few seconds to search the Internet.

...and now you are a valued contributor to it  .

[LLPunting]

It’s just another sign of how crap AW is.  The could just put Bareback (unprotected sex) as one option , but that would be good for SPs and punters so they won’t.

Plenty of non English girls have no idea what they are selecting , having things listed twice doesn’t help

Actually they need 3 options to parallel what happens with fellatio.  As they should also do for cunnilingus and anal.

[MelissaHoney]

To be honest bareback/unprotected sex should be banned on official sites. And also punters who ask for bareback/unprotected sex on their RBs should not be allowed to do so.
Health and Safety should be above all.

[LLPunting]

To be honest bareback/unprotected sex should be banned on official sites. And also punters who ask for bareback/unprotected sex on their RBs should not be allowed to do so.
Health and Safety should be above all.

Maintaining transparency about this service being offered and partaken IS in the interests of H&S for all in the industry.
Much like being outspoken about calling out sexual harassment has improved the situation across industries since the action gained momentum with #metoo.
Just as the legitimisation of SPs involved in prostitution and their clients would be better for the UK rather than driving them underground by banning and stigmatising sex-work and paying for sex.  We probably all agree that a zero-tolerance crackdown on all those who traffic or exert control over SPs would be the necessary accompanying action.

[S.X. MacHine]

To be honest bareback/unprotected sex should be banned on official sites. And also punters who ask for bareback/unprotected sex on their RBs should not be allowed to do so.
Health and Safety should be above all.

Indeed. I agree with you that it would be better if SPs were not permitted to advertise themselves as barebackers. I think it odd that AW should allow them to.

[daviemac]

Indeed. I agree with you that it would be better if SPs were not permitted to advertise themselves as barebackers. I think it odd that AW should allow them to.

I disagree, I want to know if they're barebackers so I can avoid them.

[Derrick101]

I disagree, I want to know if they're barebackers so I can avoid them.

+100 to this 

[Aengus]

It is sometimes as confusing as hell! 

I’ve looked at girls showing ‘unprotected sex’ and OWO in their likes, but have statements like. ”bareback no way! Do you think I’m stupid or what” in their notes. 

I guess they mean OWO but not bare penetration but how are we to know? I just avoid them, but then maybe miss out on a hot chick that I would really like to fuck ! 

[Newtothisstuff]

AW is out to make money. The SPs are out to make money. It doesn't matter whether you like the idea of bareback or think it should be banned. The site is searched by guys who want bareback and there are SPs willing to offer it. AW makes money off them just as it does from the rest of us.

[winkywanky]

It is sometimes as confusing as hell! 

I’ve looked at girls showing ‘unprotected sex’ and OWO in their likes, but have statements like. ”bareback no way! Do you think I’m stupid or what” in their notes. 

I guess they mean OWO but not bare penetration but how are we to know? I just avoid them, but then maybe miss out on a hot chick that I would really like to fuck !

Email them on AW and tell them how stupid they seem.

[PepeMAGA]

Maybe it should be away from the likes list altogether and be adding the top (one description) where it says Escorts, available today etc. Must admit when I search I tick dislike bb but assume that covers unprotected too. Have yet to be offered it

[Londonpunter30]

AW is out to make money. The SPs are out to make money. It doesn't matter whether you like the idea of bareback or think it should be banned. The site is searched by guys who want bareback and there are SPs willing to offer it. AW makes money off them just as it does from the rest of us.

Yes that is true, but by listing services under different names and not making it clear what each one means doesn’t help the situation.

[Boristheboy]

bareback is punters lingo, unprotected is not.
Therefore "unprotected" could be there for the idiots who don't know what BB means.

In which case, you don't need the "bareback" option at all. Just have "unprotected sex" and then everyone knows what it means.

[daviemac]

In which case, you don't need the "bareback" option at all. Just have "unprotected sex" and then everyone knows what it means.

No, leave the 'bareback' there, it's near the top and you don't have to scroll down the list to see it, if I see it I move on without looking further. If escorts are stupid enough to tick something they are unsure of then that's their problem. It's not like it never gets mentioned on sites like this.

You'd be surprised how many times a member has asked about an escort for it to be pointed out they have 'unprotected sex' listed and for them to say they didn't look that far down the list.

[Londonpunter30]

The best thing would be t change it to

“Bareback (unprotected sex)”

No ambiguity and leaves it at the top.

That would b3 useful to SPs and punters so fuck all chance of that happening

[scutty brown]

Lots of confused concepts from girls over this, especially foreigners.......

some seem to believe bareback means anal or raw anal, while unprotected means raw vaginal.
others seem to think that bareback means vaginal without condom - but she's on birth control, while unprotected means no birth control at all (so you have a pregnancy gamble)

all bollocks of course and just proves you can't trust to understand what they really mean

[scutty brown]

To be honest bareback/unprotected sex should be banned on official sites. And also punters who ask for bareback/unprotected sex on their RBs should not be allowed to do so.
Health and Safety should be above all.

If that happened then you girls would be plagued with endless messages asking for bareback, and punters turning up and requesting it once they've got their clothes off. Also it would be harder for you to check a punters history as you AW would no longer show whether his previous meetings were with barebackers