Amsterdam RLD punt... lame and humiliating

[MrClive]

Or parts of Brazil have it on a scale that makes Amsterdam look like a prim little backwater.

I would be interested to know where abouts in Brazil this would be

[Marmalade]

I would be interested to know where abouts in Brazil this would be

Belo Horizonte has a street full of multistorey old hotels converted into open door prossie rooms. Rio has the famous VM. Some of the towns in the North have bars like the Wild West.

Belgium has 'windows' just as shit as Amsterdam -- ok, maybe not quite as shit.    Greece has more cheap prossies with the only difference that they have no-pressure waiting rooms and they really are cheap (as in inexpensive -- service varies but better than Amsterdam RLD windows. Then most German cities have Eros Centres -- most are the 'windowed variety. Some one has to knock.

enjoy!

[hmscossack]

I had a crap punt in 1991 in Amsterdam RLD same as the previous , except it was for 50 guilders at the time , OW and no touching
- not good and a rip-off - worst punt ever

[BustyAsianLover]

Asking the girls what services they offer for 50 may seem pointless, because they can lie, but the conversation does give you a chance to work out how cunty she is before you commit to walking in.

I have had some cracking girls. Also been ripped off. About 70% were money well spent.

If the 50 service was good I go back again and pay double for longer time, more positions etc. Feels a bit more GFE because you have time to bond.

[Hungarian Lover]

Sounds to me like a colossal waste of time, visited the RLD about 30 odd years ago and I guess things have changed a lot since then, only went there for a gawp and being as porn mags were illegal bought some and smuggled them back home. Plan to revisit Amsterdam sometime in the future but certainly not for sex, don't see the point really when I can get a GFE back home with a young EE girl with everything thrown in with no haggling at an agreed price, still each to their own. Having said that I intend to try for my first point abroad in Hungary soon with one of the girls from the Rosszlanyok.hu site so we'll see how that goes.

[Azucar D Artagnan]

Belo Horizonte has a street full of multistorey old hotels converted into open door prossie rooms. Rio has the famous VM. Some of the towns in the North have bars like the Wild West.

Let's keep Minas Gerias and B.M under our hat ... don't want that " fucked up " too ! Keep steering all those Gringo tourists to Rio & S.P. 

[RS6]

the "main" RLD is a massive tourist scam - once i was quoted 100 euros for 15 minutes
(this was because it was late night and very busy so she did what Uber do in times of need and start jacking the price up!)
the sex shows are decent tho (casa rosso etc)

i prefer to go to the "other" RLD which is non-touristified

its address is Ruysdaelkade 145, 1072 AR Amsterdam (comes up on google street view) - about 15 minutes away by taxi from centre of dam.

price is the same, 50 euros 15 minuts, there are about 25 windows and the service is much better, friendly girls, no tourist bullshit - no qualms about sex or BJ or HJ - you get all 3 in the allotted time, extras are available but everything seems to be on a 50 euros rate which has never made sense.
some stunners here too and best part is: its one big row of hookers - no walking about street after street

personally I've always felt a rip at 50 euros for 15 minutes but at least you get a quality service - unlike the main RLD.

along with the usual ploy of pretending not be a tourist - if you want to see a lady for an hour - tell her you'll pay 150 euros and you might get away with it.  apparently this is the "locals hour rate" - save yourself 50 euros!

after finding this RLD I've never gone back to the main shit hole.

[Reiver]

the "main" RLD is a massive tourist scam - once i was quoted 100 euros for 15 minutes
(this was because it was late night and very busy so she did what Uber do in times of need and start jacking the price up!)
the sex shows are decent tho (casa rosso etc)

i prefer to go to the "other" RLD which is non-touristified

its address is Ruysdaelkade 145, 1072 AR Amsterdam (comes up on google street view) - about 15 minutes away by taxi from centre of

price is the same, 50 euros 15 minuts, there are about 25 windows and the service is much better, friendly girls, no tourist bullshit - no qualms about sex or BJ or HJ - you get all 3 in the allotted time, extras are available but everything seems to be on a 50 euros rate which has never made sense.
some stunners here too and best part is: its one big row of hookers - no walking about street after street

personally I've always felt a rip at 50 euros for 15 minutes but at least you get a quality service - unlike the main RLD.

along with the usual ploy of pretending not be a tourist - if you want to see a lady for an hour - tell her you'll pay 150 euros and you might get away with it.  apparently this is the "locals hour rate" - save yourself 50 euros!

after finding this RLD I've never gone back to the main shit hole.

[adindas]

Asking the girls what services they offer for 50 may seem pointless, because they can lie, but the conversation does give you a chance to work out how cunty she is before you commit to walking in.

I have had some cracking girls. Also been ripped off. About 70% were money well spent.

If the 50 service was good I go back again and pay double for longer time, more positions etc. Feels a bit more GFE because you have time to bond.

How come EUR 50 for 15 minutes, no toauhing, one pisition is good Value for money. In londone there are many EE girls area offering £50-60 for half hours. Most services are included. OWO, DATY, multiple position, etc

[Jerboa]

How come EUR 50 for 15 minutes, no toauhing, one pisition is good Value for money. In londone there are many EE girls area offering £50-60 for half hours. Most services are included. OWO, DATY, multiple position, etc

We know it's not, 40 years ago if you were a horny sailor fresh off a ship, AMS DeWallen would of been paradise, but like everything in this world, a place gets popular, folk talk about AMS being a sex capital, millions of stag do's turn up, girls and pimps see how they can extract cash with little or no work, and the RLD turn into a cash extracting district, a shadow of it's original self. 

[pumps]

I was in Dam the other day, the RLD is just a ripoff gimmick, stay home or go to Asia if you want VFM.... Thailand preferably... another place I was in the other day soaking up the whoring scene 

[adindas]

I was in Dam the other day, the RLD is just a ripoff gimmick, stay home or go to Asia if you want VFM.... Thailand preferably... another place I was in the other day soaking up the whoring scene 

Indeed. Let leave Amstedam window shopping to clueless tourists.
Punters, people who have some knolwdege of punting in Europe will avoid them in the first instance.

Yes Amsterdam RLD was good, but it was over 25 years ago when the price was still in 40-50 dutch guilders.

[adindas]

We know it's not, 40 years ago if you were a horny sailor fresh off a ship, AMS DeWallen would of been paradise, but like everything in this world, a place gets popular, folk talk about AMS being a sex capital, millions of stag do's turn up, girls and pimps see how they can extract cash with little or no work, and the RLD turn into a cash extracting district, a shadow of it's original self. 

Indeed we live it Amsterdam window shopping to clueless tourists who have more money than sense or punters who do not want to learn.

[sharky1]

i've been going to Amsterdam for a number of years and have rarely had a bad experience.

Infact this year i've been twice, had a total of 9 punts and only paid more than €50 twice which all included OW and sex in multiple positions.

Both times i've paid more than €50, was with the same girl (1 time on each trip) but it got me 30 mins and i'd usually decline but she was an absolute worldy and not that often you get the near perfect girl for you bouncing on your dick for some monopoly money.

That's not to say i've not had it tried on before on past trips, i've always atleast got OW for €50 and when they've tried upselling another €100 for sex, €50 for clothes off i just give a little laugh and decline. The positive punts byfar outweigh the negative for me and these negative punts are few and far between.

The best talent in De Wallen come out around 21:00/22:00 until around 02:00/03:00. If you go during the day, it's mostly fat old munters with the odd gem about. Singel is hit and miss for me, i found it dead at night 21:00+ with most windows empty, during the day it's mostly Romanian/Bulgarian looking older ladies.

Like others have said, you need to negotiate at the door before you go in. I always follow a conversation abit like below, if you still get ripped off then atleast you've done all you could not to:

How much?
€50
What do i get for €50?
Suck and fuck darling
So i can fuck you for €50?
Yes darling
You take clothes off and i can touch?
Yes darling
How long do i get?
20 mins

I've had my best punts with the best looking girls i've ever been with in Amsterdam.

Quality of the women in De Wallen at night is second to none, compared to anywhere i've ever visitied. Helped by the fact their fully on show, so if they arent top notch and not a niche then they arent gonna make much money.

I've had some quality punts with some RLD girls a few months ago and definitely recommend the above approach. Asking them those questions also gives you a great opportunity to see what their general attitude to punters is. If they seemed annoyed that I was asking those questions I would walk, as they'd likely keep that attitude after I pay. If they were friendly and happy to answer, big thumbs up.

[Nz]

Is there anywhere in Amsterdam to punt for £20 like we get in soho?

[Jerboa]

I've had some quality punts with some RLD girls a few months ago and definitely recommend the above approach. Asking them those questions also gives you a great opportunity to see what their general attitude to punters is. If they seemed annoyed that I was asking those questions I would walk, as they'd likely keep that attitude after I pay. If they were friendly and happy to answer, big thumbs up.

Yes ok there are some good ones if you look for a needle in a haystack, but AMS is just over priced and poor quality.

[Jerboa]

Is there anywhere in Amsterdam to punt for £20 like we get in soho?

No, as you will understand if you read this thread, Amsterdam is a tourist cash extraction machine, it’s there to take as much off clueless tourists for little service.

[Mothball15]

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I think the good days are gone.

[pumps]

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I think the good days are gone.

I think if you read this thread, it has already been established that the gone days are already long gone 

[jaydefo24]

So, are we to conclude all women in the windows are trafficeked ?

[HughLoad]

Brussels Gare Du Nord/Rogier used to be great for walk ins.

Had one shortly after splitting with then wife - my first punt. Smoking body, boots and bkini and 50e for 30 minutes. It was a long time ago (15-16 years) but I do remember she spent about 5 minutes just rubbing her tits all over my cock and thighs and stomach - oddly erotic.

Then oral with and she rode to completion.

Sadly the eastern europeans moved in and it all went to shit.

[pumps]

So, are we to conclude all women in the windows are trafficeked ?

No, won't be all. A good percentage will be though....

[Brazilian Martian]

Let's keep Minas Gerias and B.M under our hat ... don't want that " fucked up " too ! Keep steering all those Gringo tourists to Rio & S.P. 

  that's not fair

[Marmalade]

  that's not fair

VM is semi-fucked now anyway. It used to be a straight 30Rs including the room. Now they want 100. Better going to a clínica.

[Brazilian Martian]

VM is semi-fucked now anyway. It used to be a straight 30Rs including the room. Now they want 100. Better going to a clínica.

Happening all over now, i had a prossie tell me she only wants us dollers via the cupid app. I used to visit a few places similar to VM in centro sao paulo and pay 20 reals for a fuck and i could also have a beer and talk with other punters. Now i m told the girls are asking for 60 and 70 reals for a pump and dump.

[Jerboa]

Happening all over now, i had a prossie tell me she only wants us dollers via the cupid app. I used to visit a few places similar to VM in centro sao paulo and pay 20 reals for a fuck and i could also have a beer and talk with other punters. Now i m told the girls are asking for 60 and 70 reals for a pump and dump.

If she wants 70US, tell her to get her ass to Miami lol.

[Marmalade]

70Rs is about £15

[AnyOldUsername]

I've got to start contributing rather than just reading at some point so here we go;

I visited Amsterdam last week and stayed in the RLD (not my choice), I obviously did some window shopping and after reading this thread was curious and thought id do some experimenting. I've been before, probably about 6/7 years ago and had 2 great punts, I'll be honest and say that yeah I did have a little lack of respect for money and thought I'd write off 150 Euro's, I'd only of spent it on crap anyway.


DaveyB123 posted about how he does it, so I thought I'd give it a go his way, and leave it to my friends (only 1 ended up trying) to go about the touristy way as they don't punt regularly. Without typing out a full transcript, I essentially tried Daveys way with 5 girls and 2 of those I walked away from as I got the bitchy vibe and felt like they couldn't be bothered with my questions so why would they be any better when I walked in? The other 3 I agreed on OWO, sex and clothes off and 2 of those worked out just like that, I may have even gone over on time with one by a couple of minutes but she was fine about it, the only negative was the face she pulled during missionary, in hind site I should of asked for doggy with that one. The third was just shit, seemed very friendly and open to questions but once we got down to business most of the things we agreed on were now extras, I wasn't in the mood for an argument or a beating from Sergei so took OW and left for 50, not without bitchy comments about me being English and how I should understand it throughout

As for my friends experience, he did the tourist usual of "how much?" "50" goes in and then theres tons of extra's, she tried to charge him by card of all things but it was blocked, I convinced him to call it a loss when he came out and tried to head to a cash point.

In summary I agree that it has gone downhill but there are still some good ones to be found there, talking before and asking the right questions to asses first does seem to help, but its never a guarantee.

[Spanish Lad]

First ever punt was in RLD AMS in 1988 with a 18/19 year old Brazilian. Remember it as if it was yesterday

[AnyOldUsername]

First ever punt was in RLD AMS in 1988 with a 18/19 year old Brazilian. Remember it as if it was yesterday

were there a lot of choices in terms of nationality then? It all seems to be eastern European and nothing else now, at least from what I've encountered on my trips.

[CtrDM]

I’m not sure if anyone here had the pleasure of meeting the Thai beauty, Cookie. I first visited Amsterdam on Queens Day 2011 and would return 6 times up until NYE 2012. I sessioned with her at least twice per visit.

She was about 5’4 in heels, early 20’s and had that real cute Thai look about her. Welcoming and friendly, a true WG who made her subject feel welcome. She had a smurf hanging in her window to put you on notice that she was working ... and the god damn curtain was always drawn! Patience is a virtue, they say, and one that paid dividends.

Anyone who is familiar with Ignatzmice may have read the glowing reports on her.

There was another great Thai, called Mai Thai. She also offered Thai massages and a wonderful smile. She was slightly older and a lot more upfront, but an able deputy to Cookie.

Alas, it wasn’t until 2014 that I would visit Thailand proper, but Cookie shall always remain in the Champions League places for me!