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Offline davey.edwards1969

A very sad tale which I hope will act as a warning to SP's who offer anal
Saw a lady at the weekend who now works as an indie
I used to see her regularly at a parlour a few years and she remembered me
Had a nice chat and she told me she has had to stop having anal sex on the advice of her doctor due to the damage it has caused
She genuinely used to love it both at work and in her personal life
She revealed that when she worked at a very busy parlour she would often be the only girl on shift to offer A levels and as she was young and naive was lured by the prospect of an extra £200 plus per shift into not refusing any guy anal
Very often she was having anal over 10 times a day and for 3 days a week
She regrets it now
Even porn stars rarely do more than 2 anal scenes a week
She is a nice girl and I do feel sorry for her

Offline Dopedj

I’ve heard several stories like this ...I remember one Chinese sp I used to see back in the day -stopped working cause of this issue her ass being loose-she said she couldn’t eat a lot of food cos of it.
Sad indeed

Offline Waterhouse

Sorry to hear this, never welcome news under any circumstance.

Despite enjoying erotic domination, and even having considered it, I've never been on the receiving end of a strap-on for this very reason. I don't want to be wearing nappies years from now.

Hopefully your 'lady friend' will recover in due course.

Online WARSZAWA16

Sad story obviously. Unfortunately it's fairly obvious though that too much/a lot of anal is certainly going to bugger up someones arse in the future and all that entails (no pun intended).

Offline Home Alone

Yes; a sobering reminder that punting has its health hazards.

Ironically for me, it's come at a time when experiencing anal sex was one of the items on the bucket list of services to experience before time catches up with me & age - finally - forces me to retire.

Part of me says, "What I've never had, I'll never miss." On the other hand, if I see someone who offers it, and the subject comes up in conversation in the room, . . .

Offline Shearer1955

Its strange that I do enjoy giving anal to a lady if it is available but I would never entertain the prospect of owt up my own arse
Obviously there are dangers with anal sex and you feel sorry for the lady concerned

Offline Drayki

Fuck, her arse has taken a lot of cock in such a short space of time, she must of been sore after that  :scare:

Offline Romney

Maybe that's one of the reasons so many wg's who offer it charge extra?  Perhaps they hope that will result in fewer punters requesting it, as they realize they can't and probably shouldn't be doing it with every bloke they see for their own long term health....

Offline Waterhouse

Maybe that's one of the reasons so many wg's who offer it charge extra?  Perhaps they hope that will result in fewer punters requesting it, as they realize they can't and probably shouldn't be doing it with every bloke they see for their own long term health....
False logic.

If you are worried about longer term consequences, simply do not offer it - period. 

No point in charging a few quid extra unless you're throwing caution to the wind and either haven't thought about the future or don't give a hoot about it, and trying to earn a few more ££'s.

Offline Romney

False logic.

If you are worried about longer term consequences, simply do not offer it - period. 

No point in charging a few quid extra unless you're throwing caution to the wind and either haven't thought about the future or don't give a hoot about it, and trying to earn a few more ££'s.

Not really.  It depends on if them charging extra actually significantly reduces the number of times they engage in anal or not.  If they end up doing it only once or twice a month because few punters choose to pay for it, then the likelihood of long term consequences are much less, or at least I would think so....

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Not really.  It depends on if them charging extra actually significantly reduces the number of times they engage in anal or not.  If they end up doing it only once or twice a month because few punters choose to pay for it, then the likelihood of long term consequences are much less, or at least I would think so....

Yes this, and I know an SP that practices this theory to eliminate every punter opting for A levels. According to her its effective enough.

Offline davey.edwards1969

The problem was that it was a very busy parlour and very often she was the only girl offering anal
So every guy who came in wanting anal ended up with her and was expecting to pay extra for it
She readily admits to being seduced by the extra money

Offline Waterhouse

Not really.  It depends on if them charging extra actually significantly reduces the number of times they engage in anal or not.  If they end up doing it only once or twice a month because few punters choose to pay for it, then the likelihood of long term consequences are much less, or at least I would think so....

Views vary I guess... to me it is still a false logic.  If you are worried about future ramifications, don't do it.

The girls that charge extra simply want their cake (hoepfully a working bumhole in ten years time) and to eat it too (having the extra cash for it).

If a punter wants anal, he will usally shell out for it if he fancies the girl and she offers it at an extra charge.  That is not safeguarding her. The only way to safeguard against a thing is to not do it / offer it in the first place. If the girl does not offer it and its' a deal breaker for the punter, then he will go elsewhere and pay the extra to another SP.

Take BB for example... do it or don't - protect yourself from STIs (the more serious ones at least) or don't.  No middle ground.  If you BB then you risk catching a nasty such as HIV or Syphilis. If you cover-up, you eliminate that risk (well for the most part anyway). *

*In this hobby anyway.  Also I'm not condoning BB in any shape or form. As customer I never have and never will.
« Last Edit: February 25, 2019, 03:47:40 pm by Yondu616 »

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So what is actually wrong with this girl now?

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Offline Dopedj

So what is actually wrong with this girl now?
Loose ass according to my friend ...for instance if u want to take a poo u can hold it in for a long while if u can but a loose ass means  :vomit: :vomit:

Offline mrfishyfoo

The problem was that it was a very busy parlour and very often she was the only girl offering anal
So every guy who came in wanting anal ended up with her and was expecting to pay extra for it
She readily admits to being seduced by the extra money

She made her choice and that was driven by greed so she only has herself to blame.  :unknown: :unknown:

I for one have ZERO SYMPATHY !!!  :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Bed and lay come to mind.  :timeout: :timeout:

Offline unus669

Playing devils advocate here. Isn’t, the so called after effects, of engaging in anal anecdotal :unknown:

If anal sex, after effects were common, why haven’t we heard, tonnes of gay men, are suffering with all sorts of after effects. Yes, some will say, SPs have more anal, than a gay man, however over a life time a gay man, will probably have more anal than a SP?

Offline advent2016

Not being an expert, but have read a lot as I occasionally like being fucked with a (normal sized) strap-on the keys are plenty of lubrication, start small, if it really hurts (need safe word) STOP. Beware of Haemorrhoids, and treat them professionally.  Surgery can repair some types of damage. The best advice is become well informed. There are plenty of sensible internet resources.

Sometimes it is unrelated to anal sex, but from other reasons such as fistula. Again best advice is become informed about sexual health before trying anything new.
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Online Mothball15

I've heard stories about gay men wearing nappies & Inserting tampons due to this problem.

Offline unus669

I've heard stories about gay men wearing nappies & Inserting tampons due to this problem.

Still anecdotal then.

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You don't actually say what's wrong with her arse, apart from she says her GP said to give the thing a rest, the reality is she clearly wanted the money, there are downsides to many jobs, if she'd been stacking shelves she may have injured her shoulder / back / arm, and of course would have earned a lot less.  :music:

Offline GreyDave

 :hi:  Well for a punter the main danger is as The Old Rocker Ian Dury said...

A little bit of claggy on the waggy  :) :) :)   Best to remember "the hope that springs eternal....springs right up your behind...."
« Last Edit: February 25, 2019, 09:06:57 pm by GreyDave »

Offline Rocket Scientist

Still anecdotal then.

I found this on the internet so it must be true

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can anal sex have any long term effects on my body? I’ve heard that it can cause anal leakage later in life, and anal prolapse. is this true?

No. Although most couples do not have anal intercourse, it can be perfectly healthy and safe in both the long and short term. As with vaginal intercourse, however, there is a very small risk of leakage and prolapse over the course of a lifetime. Anal intercourse can also aggravate existing hemorrhoids.

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Offline Doc Holliday

Playing devils advocate here. Isn’t, the so called after effects, of engaging in anal anecdotal :unknown:

If anal sex, after effects were common, why haven’t we heard, tonnes of gay men, are suffering with all sorts of after effects. Yes, some will say, SPs have more anal, than a gay man, however over a life time a gay man, will probably have more anal than a SP?

Studies are few but this is I think the most recent? External Link/Members Only

The problem is, it is something which is difficult to measure and relies on detailed questionnaires but the study appears to confirm an increased risk of faecal incontinence.

The other issue is that faecal incontinence is not a common condition and whereas the rate increases in women (9.9 vs. 7.4%) and men (11.6 vs. 5.3%) this still means that the vast majority of men and women who said they practiced anal sex had no reported issues.

The other issue is that it appears the study did not examine in detail the frequency of anal intercourse (women especially) although logically the more you are exposed to a risk the more likelihood of problems ... but that is assumed and not proved and there will be individual susceptibility to the same risk factor?

So yes there is much anecdotal evidence, but although your risk of faecal incontinence in men is doubled, the total numbers are still relatively small, which is why we haven't heard of large numbers of gay men with problems.
« Last Edit: February 25, 2019, 09:33:06 pm by Doc Holliday »

Offline unus669

Studies are few but this is I think the most recent? External Link/Members Only

The problem is, it is something which is difficult to measure and relies on detailed questionnaires but the study appears to confirm an increased risk of faecal incontinence.

The other issue is that faecal incontinence is not a common condition and whereas the rate increases in women (9.9 vs. 7.4%) and men (11.6 vs. 5.3%) this still means that the vast majority of men and women who said they practiced anal sex had no reported issues.

The other issue is that it appears the study did not examine in detail the frequency of anal intercourse (women especially) although logically the more you are exposed to a risk the more likelihood of problems ... but that is assumed and not proved and there will be individual susceptibility to the same risk factor?

So yes there is much anecdotal evidence, but although your risk of faecal incontinence in men is doubled, the total numbers are still relatively small, which is why we haven't heard of large numbers of gay men with problems.

 :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Didn’t read all of the link, but it’s handy, for me to read later.

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As someone with a bit of medical knowledge, and who has been doing anal for years (both working and not), bollocks and absolute bollocks to all of that scare mongering.

Anal only causes issues if you rush to too large to quickly and don't use enough lube (hence slowly slowly at first, then increase the pace).

Fecal incontinence occurs in a set percentage of people regardless of whether they do anal or not. If a homophobic myth that all old gays shove a tampon up their arse.

IBS, Chrones, piles, childbirth, diabetes, strokes, spins bifida, and more can cause fecael incontinence.

And I say this as someone who was born with a condition that makes it high impossible to shit without meds. Despite years of doing anal I still have to rely on the meds. It's a muscle, worked appropriately no damage occurs. Shoving something large in without warm up, certainly will, but anyone with any sense warms up.

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Studies are few but this is I think the most recent? External Link/Members Only

The problem is, it is something which is difficult to measure and relies on detailed questionnaires but the study appears to confirm an increased risk of faecal incontinence.

The other issue is that faecal incontinence is not a common condition and whereas the rate increases in women (9.9 vs. 7.4%) and men (11.6 vs. 5.3%) this still means that the vast majority of men and women who said they practiced anal sex had no reported issues.

The other issue is that it appears the study did not examine in detail the frequency of anal intercourse (women especially) although logically the more you are exposed to a risk the more likelihood of problems ... but that is assumed and not proved and there will be individual susceptibility to the same risk factor?

So yes there is much anecdotal evidence, but although your risk of faecal incontinence in men is doubled, the total numbers are still relatively small, which is why we haven't heard of large numbers of gay men with problems.

Doesn't really, the paper groups men and women aged 20 to 69 with no differentiation between frequency (just that they'd did it), and doesn't link symptoms to behaviour. And doesn't even differentiate between preexisting conditions that could cause in and behaviour.

The paper even acknowledges, it's suggestion. Not causation. Hundreds, thousands, millions of people exist who have incontinence and report never having done anal, it just kind of happens as you get older. Things fall apart.

Offline Kinkykate78

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As someone with a bit of medical knowledge, and who has been doing anal for years (both working and not), bollocks and absolute bollocks to all of that scare mongering.

Anal only causes issues if you rush to too large to quickly and don't use enough lube (hence slowly slowly at first, then increase the pace).

Fecal incontinence occurs in a set percentage of people regardless of whether they do anal or not. If a homophobic myth that all old gays shove a tampon up their arse.

IBS, Chrones, piles, childbirth, diabetes, strokes, spins bifida, and more can cause fecael incontinence.

And I say this as someone who was born with a condition that makes it high impossible to shit without meds. Despite years of doing anal I still have to rely on the meds. It's a muscle, worked appropriately no damage occurs. Shoving something large in without warm up, certainly will, but anyone with any sense warms up.

This.   Never ever had any issues whatsoever.

Offline allroadboy

not for the faint hearted, but this clip shows what a mess peoples back passages become when they do too much

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This.   Never ever had any issues whatsoever.

To be fair you're a big unit, and as such likely you turn out above average sized turds, thus better placed to take anal, but you're in your 50's so not that old, perhaps when you get into your 60's you may however escape any problems by virtue of having a big arse  :hi:
« Last Edit: February 26, 2019, 12:40:24 pm by James999 »

Offline unus669

To be fair you're a big unit, and as such likely you turn out above average sized turds, thus better placed to take anal, but you're in your 50's so not that old, perhaps whe nyou get into your 60's you may however escape any problems by virtue of having a big arse  :hi:

 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

Offline cueball

not for the faint hearted, but this clip shows what a mess peoples back passages become when they do too much

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Those tomatoes won't be any good for a BLT after being up there  :dash:  :D  :scare:

Offline Waterhouse

not for the faint hearted, but this clip shows what a mess peoples back passages become when they do too much

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Once seen cannot be unseen.  :scare:  :vomit:

This for me is the truth of the matter. Studies and theoretical articles and papers cannot deny the proof in the pudding, so to speak.


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To be fair you're a big unit, and as such likely you turn out above average sized turds, thus better placed to take anal, but you're in your 50's so not that old, perhaps when you get into your 60's you may however escape any problems by virtue of having a big arse  :hi:

In my 50s?   :lol: :lol: 


Offline Kinkykate78

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And as someone who also has a lot of medical knowledge the size of a person has little bearing on the size of their shits  :rolleyes:

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When a pro$$ie says she has medical knowledge she tends to mean that she's caught an STI and went to a clinic  :sarcastic:

Online threechilliman

not for the faint hearted, but this clip shows what a mess peoples back passages become when they do too much

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I've learnt not to click on this sort of thing.

Offline Kinkykate78

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Doesn't really, the paper groups men and women aged 20 to 69 with no differentiation between frequency (just that they'd did it), and doesn't link symptoms to behaviour. And doesn't even differentiate between preexisting conditions that could cause in and behaviour.

The paper even acknowledges, it's suggestion. Not causation. Hundreds, thousands, millions of people exist who have incontinence and report never having done anal, it just kind of happens as you get older. Things fall apart.

Makes me wonder how that paper passed peer review...

Offline bushman

To be fair you're a big unit, and as such likely you turn out above average sized turds, thus better placed to take anal, but you're in your 50's so not that old, perhaps when you get into your 60's you may however escape any problems by virtue of having a big arse  :hi:
:lol: :lol: :lol: I needed this. Thanks

Offline Doc Holliday

Sorry another rambling post .. but I am stuck in waiting for a delivery

Doesn't really, the paper groups men and women aged 20 to 69 with no differentiation between frequency (just that they'd did it), and doesn't link symptoms to behaviour. And doesn't even differentiate between preexisting conditions that could cause in and behaviour.

The paper even acknowledges, it's suggestion. Not causation. Hundreds, thousands, millions of people exist who have incontinence and report never having done anal, it just kind of happens as you get older. Things fall apart.

Yes indeed .. so just another piece of flawed medical investigation  ;)

So if scientific method cannot help us much we are left with the anecdotal evidence and there is a great deal of that.

We are also left to speculate with theory and hypothesis albeit without any proof.
On that note one could argue that anal sex is abusing what that part of the body was designed for. The sphincter muscle was designed to keep waste matter in place until the door opened at the appropriate occasion and usually for short periods of time .. at the same time preventing/reducing any ingress into a body cavity.

The vagina was designed with copulation and procreation in mind and whilst that too has musculature at play, it is normally much easier for it to relax and unlike the back passage can produce its own natural lubrication.
Now I do think the Almighty was guilty a major design fault in expecting a nine month old head and body to work its way out of that same orifice!! Perhaps he was a sadist? That said he wasn’t a total misogynist as he created a small penis at the entrance in the guise of a clitoris with a sensory nerve supply capable of creating amazing pleasurable sensations. Clearly this is where the male reproductive organ was meant to enter and not it’s next door neighbour.

Now because nature never intended for us to engage in anal sex does not mean that man (and other species) will not engage in the activity. Man has always been curious, which is why pornography has had such a huge impact on the incidence of 'potting the black' over the last couple of decades. In addition some women can and do find it pleasurable.

On the basis this is not however a 'natural' activity then one could argue we are abusing our body?

The body is fortunately pretty tolerant to abuse. It was never designed for example to be exposed to alcohol, but there is a level of exposure which the liver especially will tolerate and which will vary from individual to individual.

My hypothesis would therefore be that the nature of that abuse, the more frequent the exposure to it and the longer it persists over time, the more likely you are to suffer damaging consequences.
That said I agree there are a great many other conditions which are more likely to give rise to faecal incontinence, both in those who do and those who don’t engage and that the majority of people who do engage will suffer no long term ill effects as a result.



Anal only causes issues if you rush to too large to quickly and don't use enough lube (hence slowly slowly at first, then increase the pace).

It's a muscle, worked appropriately no damage occurs. Shoving something large in without warm up, certainly will, but anyone with any sense warms up.

Completely agree with that, but I would suggest what you are describing is excessive abuse and I would argue it happens more frequently than you suggest? Not everyone has your common sense  ;) :)

I would also argue it happens more frequently in the paid sex arena, where many will engage in anal sex under difficult conditions to be relaxed and on more occasions per day/month ...which brings me full circle to the opening post scenario.  :)

Thoughts?

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Sorry another rambling post .. but I am stuck in waiting for a delivery

Yes indeed .. so just another piece of flawed medical investigation  ;)

So if scientific method cannot help us much we are left with the anecdotal evidence and there is a great deal of that.

We are also left to speculate with theory and hypothesis albeit without any proof.
On that note one could argue that anal sex is abusing what that part of the body was designed for. The sphincter muscle was designed to keep waste matter in place until the door opened at the appropriate occasion and usually for short periods of time .. at the same time preventing/reducing any ingress into a body cavity.

The vagina was designed with copulation and procreation in mind and whilst that too has musculature at play, it is normally much easier for it to relax and unlike the back passage can produce its own natural lubrication.
Now I do think the Almighty was guilty a major design fault in expecting a nine month old head and body to work its way out of that same orifice!! Perhaps he was a sadist? That said he wasn’t a total misogynist as he created a small penis at the entrance in the guise of a clitoris with a sensory nerve supply capable of creating amazing pleasurable sensations. Clearly this is where the male reproductive organ was meant to enter and not it’s next door neighbour.

Now because nature never intended for us to engage in anal sex does not mean that man (and other species) will not engage in the activity. Man has always been curious, which is why pornography has had such a huge impact on the incidence of 'potting the black' over the last couple of decades. In addition some women can and do find it pleasurable.

On the basis this is not however a 'natural' activity then one could argue we are abusing our body?

The body is fortunately pretty tolerant to abuse. It was never designed for example to be exposed to alcohol, but there is a level of exposure which the liver especially will tolerate and which will vary from individual to individual.

My hypothesis would therefore be that the nature of that abuse, the more frequent the exposure to it and the longer it persists over time, the more likely you are to suffer damaging consequences.
That said I agree there are a great many other conditions which are more likely to give rise to faecal incontinence, both in those who do and those who don’t engage and that the majority of people who do engage will suffer no long term ill effects as a result.


Completely agree with that, but I would suggest what you are describing is excessive abuse and I would argue it happens more frequently than you suggest? Not everyone has your common sense  ;) :)

I would also argue it happens more frequently in the paid sex arena, where many will engage in anal sex under difficult conditions to be relaxed and on more occasions per day/month ...which brings me full circle to the opening post scenario.  :)

Thoughts?

Scientific research is always limited by what people tell us. We know fecal incontinence occurs within a certain percentage of men and women past a certain age regardless of sexual activity. It's just a reality when you get to a certain age muscles aren't as good as they were.

To propose sex weakens a muscle would also be to suggest that a man or woman who can deepthroat would be more likely to choke on food. Just doesn't happen.

To assume that a provider is more likely to take less care ignores the fact that numerous providers refuse anal on grounds of size (likely due to the mistaken belief it will cause pain damage, when the reality is the arse is able to take more than the vagina size wise, just takes warm up).

I can only speak for myself, but I have less anal sex with work than I do in my personal life. I think the expectation of anal sex is over stated from the reality of it.

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Makes me wonder how that paper passed peer review...

They didn't go firm on any result and it's a rarely researched area. So easier to pass. All depend on who it gets sent to. Good friends easy pass. Not that knowledgeable, easy pass.

Many shit papers get published with little evidence. The key is to not draw a direct conclusion and stay vague in an area of low research. You'd never pull that off in cancer or blood. But sphincter tension you'd be able to get away with. You just likely won't get funding.

When a pro$$ie says she has medical knowledge she tends to mean that she's caught an STI and went to a clinic  :sarcastic:

Nope just years of working as a scientist in STD research and it's associated cancers.

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Tailseeker, from your knowledge of STI transmission can you tell us how risky is bareback anal intercourse for the owner of the penis? (Especially heterosexual anal, if that makes a difference). I know that it is risky for the owner of the anus.  And thank you for all your contributions to this site.

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They didn't go firm on any result and it's a rarely researched area. So easier to pass. All depend on who it gets sent to. Good friends easy pass. Not that knowledgeable, easy pass.

Many shit papers get published with little evidence. The key is to not draw a direct conclusion and stay vague in an area of low research. You'd never pull that off in cancer or blood. But sphincter tension you'd be able to get away with. You just likely won't get funding.

Nope just years of working as a scientist in STD research and it's associated cancers.

Indeed.  Have worked in cancer research for a number of years myself.

Offline Rocket Scientist

Now because nature never intended for us to engage in anal sex does not mean that man (and other species) will not engage in the activity. Man has always been curious, which is why pornography has had such a huge impact on the incidence of 'potting the black' over the last couple of decades. In addition some women can and do find it pleasurable.

On the basis this is not however a 'natural' activity then one could argue we are abusing our body?

Who can say with confidence what nature intended?  Is it abuse to slide a slobbering dick down the throat or take one up the back passage.  Yet curiously the unintended consequence of each act is pleasurable for many


Offline unus669

Who can say with confidence what nature intended?  Is it abuse to slide a slobbering dick down the throat or take one up the back passage.  Yet curiously the unintended consequence of each act is pleasurable for many

Also, hasn’t human beings anatomy evolved, as a result of human activity  :unknown: If we believe, we are descendant of apes, cavemen et al?

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Offline PeachyAssFan

not for the faint hearted, but this clip shows what a mess peoples back passages become when they do too much

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I wish I hadn’t looked :(

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I wish I hadn’t looked :(

I wish I had not read your comment that tempted me too look  :vomit: