Guide to being an exceptional service provider? (for SP & member benefit)

[DocJohnson]

Has this been done already or, if not, is it a good idea?

So my thinking is that this forum exists to benefit punters but it seems - from reading a lot of reviews of late - there are plenty of SPs that take an interest or are possibly even members themselves (or their pimps).

There’s also endless amounts of novice SPs who just get the basics wrong when it comes to customer service.  And some more experienced but quite frankly dreadful SPs who ought to know better/could do better perhaps with pointers. Maybe we could help guide them for our own benefit?

I’m not talking about matters where there would be a very diverse range of opinion (e.g. blowjob techniques/whether or not they should have lip filler etc). 

I am talking about the things where there is - probably - an overriding consensus of opinion as to what simply CAN make an SP’s service good or exceptional (assuming they otherwise satisfy the physical attributes and technical skill requirements that match a punter’s preference).

E.g. No point being great at DT and trying to sell this if you don’t have clear and helpful comms with prospective punters to get booked and seen in the first place (or lose repeat custom). Also, not many punters seem to like paying for time and this being short-changed, or unintentionally/intentionally diluted by an SP spending time on her phone.  Some general etiquette tips might be helpful..

If any SPs were starting out and they followed a how to guide then they might actually have a more successful, sustainable, business and happier punters (so for our benefit).

I imagine lots of you would have helpful suggestions from experience that could be collected and edited into some kind of easy reference guide?!!

If it’s been done already I would quite like to bookmark the link to it so the next time I have dreadful service I can text it the SP! 

[daviemac]

Has this been done already or, if not, is it a good idea?

This is the wrong forum for that type of thing, from the rules - 2 Service Providers
This site allows service providers to be members, but zero-tolerance for touting, flirting, attention-seeking and negative attitude towards punters. Service providers must respect the ethos of the site. This site is not a chat platform between clients and service providers, nor is it a support site for service providers. All service providers / non-punters must reveal their working identities - no 'anonymous WGs'.

There's a thread on what used to be the sister site to this that covers giving SPs tips.

[DocJohnson]

This is the wrong forum for that type of thing, from the rules - 2 Service Providers
This site allows service providers to be members, but zero-tolerance for touting, flirting, attention-seeking and negative attitude towards punters. Service providers must respect the ethos of the site. This site is not a chat platform between clients and service providers, nor is it a support site for service providers. All service providers / non-punters must reveal their working identities - no 'anonymous WGs'.

There's a thread on what used to be the sister site to this that covers giving SPs tips.

Thanks DM - wasn’t aware of that. Will scratch that idea. I have no clue about the sister site and not sure I’m fussed enough to investigate now but maybe I will find the SP’s tip section to forward on, next time I feel short-changed! 

[Steely Dan]

Daviemac, there have been plenty of threads offering advice to escorts in the past.  We have previously considered this as support to punters (so on-message) rather than this becoming a support site to service providers. Helpful to know if the moderator team now think we should no longer tell escorts what we want.

Anyway, where to find all this grand advice? If only there were a companion website to UKP with 607 pages of knowledge about all things punting:

External Link/Members Only

(Note I call PW a companion site, not a sister site, since it is owned by the same person as UKP.)

[JontyR]

Helpful to know if the moderator team now think we should no longer tell escorts what we want.

Wow, that's a leap in logic.

I think that through reviews you can provide areas where a particular service provider can improve aspects of their service should they be interested. 

[daviemac]

Daviemac, there have been plenty of threads offering advice to escorts in the past.  We have previously considered this as support to punters (so on-message) rather than this becoming a support site to service providers. Helpful to know if the moderator team now think we should no longer tell escorts what we want.

Anyway, where to find all this grand advice? If only there were a companion website to UKP with 607 pages of knowledge about all things punting:

External Link/Members Only

(Note I call PW a companion site, not a sister site, since it is owned by the same person as UKP.)

The OP has suggested we compile a guide for SPs to follow, however I will refer it to Head1 for his opinion.

BTW I did not mean PW when I referred to what used to be the sister site to this, I mean the 9 page 'advice for new escorts' thread on what used to be UKE but is now EH.

[Mr_Shins]

We don't give support to service providers but our posts can give them some insight as to what we are really after, although of course we are not all the same.

You don't have to be a porn star to be a good sex provider, and many of us find it more attractive to see media of you dressed, in civilian clothing or gym wear than naked. In fact we have a whole topic here on service providers in gym wear.

[Steely Dan]

The OP has suggested we compile a guide for SPs to follow, however I will refer it to Head1 for his opinion.

BTW I did not mean PW when I referred to what used to be the sister site to this, I mean the 9 page 'advice for new escorts' thread on what used to be UKE but is now EH.

I don't give a shit about UKE or EH.  The OP was suggesting we compile a guide for SP to follow, and we have done this before.  And I provided the link. But you not only said it was a bad idea, but against the rules. I think the OP suggestion was good.  Just not new.  Since we have done it already, for you to say it is not in the rules was a big surprise. 

Wow, that's a leap in logic.

Not a big leap in logic to hear that the norms from a few years back are now not OK.

[DocJohnson]

The OP has suggested we compile a guide for SPs to follow, however I will refer it to Head1 for his opinion.

BTW I did not mean PW when I referred to what used to be the sister site to this, I mean the 9 page 'advice for new escorts' thread on what used to be UKE but is now EH.

If Head1 considering then I think I meant more of a do’s and don’t type thing - all written from experienced punters’ perspectives, rather than a full guide on how to be an SP and support them etc (that has it’s own merits but not purpose of this forum). Not an ongoing diatribe and not something that would need much if any updating but could still be helpful in a basic kind of way to further the cause?

Also, not overly lengthy and not something that is obviously debatable/down to an individual’s taste (although maybe there are some punters that love challenging comms, flea infested pits and SP’s with bad BO but hopefully they’re the clear minority - otherwise I’m put of touch )

Up to powers that be though and I’m not going to feel shot down if this just aint the right place. 

[Steely Dan]

I meant more of a do’s and don’t type thing - all written from experienced punters’ perspectives,

Did you look at the link? Been there done that, more edits welcome.

[DocJohnson]

Did you look at the link? Been there done that, more edits welcome.

Feck - sorry and thanks  - that covers it in the way envisaged. Punting wiki seems like a very good resource from what I’ve seen when dipping in previously.

[daviemac]

I don't give a shit about UKE or EH.  The OP was suggesting we compile a guide for SP to follow, and we have done this before.  And I provided the link. But you not only said it was a bad idea, but against the rules. I think the OP suggestion was good.  Just not new.  Since we have done it already, for you to say it is not in the rules was a big surprise. 

Not a big leap in logic to hear that the norms from a few years back are now not OK.

Can you link to the guide on the main forum that gives advice to escorts as that is what the OP is suggesting.  I don't recall anything of that nature but will be happy to point it out to Head1 if it has been done before.

The link you posted is to the punting wiki which is separate to the main forum and not covered by the same forum rules.

"A guide to being an exceptional service provider" sounds very much like a support thread for SPs to me and therefore against the current rules and site ethos.

Escorts have EH and SAAFE to get tips on how to give a good service, we have reviews they can read and can see what they are doing right or wrong.

[cotton]

Has this been done already or, if not, is it a good idea?

I agree with Davie , its a bad idea , aside from the issue of it conflicting with the site ethos id say the whole idea of a guide to being a good hooker is over-egging the difficulties involved in being a good SP. 
Being a good hooker isnt rocket science , a guide like the OP describes would benefit nobody and just be a pointless talking shop for people with too much time on their hands.
Bad SPs arnt bad because they dont understand how to be good , they are bad because they are simply lazy , entitled and dishonest and just arnt interested in being any better.
Nobody needs a guide and to suggest anyone needs a guide detracts from the reality that bad hookers are just bad because they choose to be bad.
The whole idea is ridiculous 

[RedKettle]

With a few exceptions I am not sure many WGs will take such a guide as constructive if on UKP. More chance of it having an impact on EH.

The really good ones who will take notice probably read reviews and postings on here and learn from them.

[HailWood]

IMO a good SP is a good SP because she has the right attitude (aptitude?) for paid sex. Giving a list of do’s and don’ts to SPs with a poor attitude/aptitude will make very little difference to what we receive from them.

[Steely Dan]

IMO a good SP is a good SP because she has the right attitude (aptitude?) for paid sex. Giving a list of do’s and don’ts to SPs with a poor attitude/aptitude will make very little difference to what we receive from them.

Agree.  But some of those with the right attitude can still benefit from advice from punters, not just the crap they get from SAAFE.  As others have pointed out, advice is all over the place on UKP.  The page on PW is nothing new, just pulls some of it together.  If one punter gets a better service from one escort, then the page was not a total waste. Anything more is a bonus. 

The page is several years old, so new ideas welcome.  Things really do move on, even with the world's oldest profession.

[DocJohnson]

Agree.  But some of those with the right attitude can still benefit from advice from punters, not just the crap they get from SAAFE.  As others have pointed out, advice is all over the place on UKP.  The page on PW is nothing new, just pulls some of it together.  If one punter gets a better service from one escort, then the page was not a total waste. Anything more is a bonus. 

The page is several years old, so new ideas welcome.  Things really do move on, even with the world's oldest profession.

A minor one but the page refers to MTV for music and the problem of ads. The girls I’m banging nowadays have spotify but sadly not all of them have the ad-free version.  They don’t realise how off-putting it is when the likes of Phillip Schofield interrupts the music to tell you he’ll buy-any-car.com - twice on the same day this shit happened to me with otherwise very well reviewed SPs. I mentioned it to one of them at the time.  I’ll be dropping it in my reviews of them shortly but if you want suggestions for edits then this is one that would update it. The idea is the same though, so not exactly new.

[Steely Dan]

A minor one but the page refers to MTV for music and the problem of ads. The girls I’m banging nowadays have spotify but sadly not all of them have the ad-free version.  They don’t realise how off-putting it is when the likes of Phillip Schofield interrupts the music to tell you he’ll buy-any-car.com - twice on the same day this shit happened to me with otherwise very well reviewed SPs. I mentioned it to one of them at the time.  I’ll be dropping it in my reviews of them shortly but if you want suggestions for edits then this is one that would update it. The idea is the same though, so not exactly new.

Agree.  Edit made.

All you have to do these days is say 'Alexa, play sexy music'.  I'm sure some punters don't care.  But can't think there are any out there who want adverts.

[Lou2019]

A minor one but the page refers to MTV for music and the problem of ads. The girls I’m banging nowadays have spotify but sadly not all of them have the ad-free version.  They don’t realise how off-putting it is when the likes of Phillip Schofield interrupts the music to tell you he’ll buy-any-car.com - twice on the same day this shit happened to me with otherwise very well reviewed SPs. I mentioned it to one of them at the time.  I’ll be dropping it in my reviews of them shortly but if you want suggestions for edits then this is one that would update it. The idea is the same though, so not exactly new.

If it’s a huge concern of yours, I’m sure they would welcome you to play your own Spotify playlists

[DocJohnson]

If it’s a huge concern of yours, I’m sure they would welcome you to play your own Spotify playlists

It’s not a huge concern of mine but I like your idea and I’ll gladly take my own phone with spotify premium on if a service provider would only pay for my phone to be upgraded so that I can do that and also cover my spotify subs while they’re on. 

As a side note I think many punters do take their own music if they’re able to. But the wiki page I was suggested an update/edit to was not one focused on how punters could improve their own experience (although there is certainly room for such advice too but that’s not the theme of this thread..)