B2B turned into bareback sex/ Help!

[Ce95]

Hello, went for a massage, offered extras, chose b2b. During the act the masseuse slid my cock inside her while not wearing a condom, dis not notice at first and thought she was still rubbing her pussy on my cock, around 30 secs later told her I’m cumming, that’s when she removed me quickly and I noticed what was going on.

I am freaking out a bit, any advice on the possible risks, bareback lasted around 30 secs what risks am I looking at? I wouldn’t worry had she not been a masseuse and probably did the same to loads of other clients. Would be reassured to hear about your experiences and how much risk I am looking at And what possible STDs could have been caught

[daviemac]

Hello, went for a massage, offered extras, chose b2b. During the act the masseuse slid my cock inside her while not wearing a condom, dis not notice at first and thought she was still rubbing her pussy on my cock, around 30 secs later told her I’m cumming, that’s when she removed me quickly and I noticed what was going on.

I am freaking out a bit, any advice on the possible risks, bareback lasted around 30 secs what risks am I looking at? I wouldn’t worry had she not been a masseuse and probably did the same to loads of other clients. Would be reassured to hear about your experiences and how much risk I am looking at And what possible STDs could have been caught

You wouldn't worry if it hadn't been a masseuse??? So you're happy to bareback strangers who aren't yet have no clue as to what risk it poses.  Beggars belief.   

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[Kelgon85]

You were in there for 30 seconds. I would say the risks are minimal.

[maxxblue]

You were in there for 30 seconds. I would say the risks are minimal.

And what evidence do you base this on? 

[Waterhouse]

One word for you..... Pillock.

You were happy to have her grinding her bare vag on your bare cock, but the thought or insertion scares the shit out of you?   

Just go and get a check 10 days* after your idiocy, although not as easy these days, but I"m sure you’ll figure it out.

*the mean between 1week for a reliable chlamydia test and 2 weeks for reliable gonorrhoea test.

[daviemac]

You were in there for 30 seconds. I would say the risks are minimal.

And what evidence do you base this on? 

More than likely read it in Viz, it's the type of thing Sid the Sexist or the Fat Slags would say.   

[gbyld87]

Or pay for a test online and post it off.   You'll decide to get tested the first or second night you lie awake sweating about it.

Either way, you won't know for sure, and I guarantee you won't stop worrying about it, until you do.

[Steely Dan]

1) Don't panic.  Act.  But don't panic.

2) Go to a GUM clinic.  Sorted.

3) The rest of you lot:  you should all go to a GUM clinic every 3 months if you fuck escorts. If you don't, you are as silly as the OP.  It is free.  Are you as silly as the OP? Sort it.

I even reviewed it once in the past.  Hmm ... here it is:

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=53163.

[PepeMAGA]

And what evidence do you base this on? 

similar to the 5 second rule for food that's dropped on the floor

[advent2016]

I think I've said this before. I visit quite regularly. They aren't intimidating like they were in the 80s/90s. They've heard everything before.
They give you free canestan, antibiotics and condoms.
They treat privacy very well indeed.

[JontyR]

Just in case this ever comes up for anyone searching for advice in the future apparently that PEP (taken for exposure for HIV) will be prescribed upto 72 hours after exposure...but that it is much more effective if taken within 24 hours.

[joexxx]

Similar to whats already been said, give it a couple of weeks and get tested. Last year I had a condom split whilst fucking a working girl and we didnt notice until I'd cum inside her. I felt a bit paranoid until getting tested & the all clear. The risk is probably minimal but its a risky hobby none the less.

[Rochelle]

similar to the 5 second rule for food that's dropped on the floor

Five? Isn't it the three-second rule? So I've got extra time? Winning!
 

[paper7]

Five? Isn't it the three-second rule? So I've got extra time? Winning!
 

A five seconds food rule is no use when you have a two second cat!

[maxxblue]

similar to the 5 second rule for food that's dropped on the floor

Exactly!   

[softlad25]

Genital warts not so easy to clear

[mike63]

1) Don't panic.  Act.  But don't panic.

2) Go to a GUM clinic.  Sorted.

3) The rest of you lot:  you should all go to a GUM clinic every 3 months if you fuck escorts. If you don't, you are as silly as the OP.  It is free.  Are you as silly as the OP? Sort it.

I even reviewed it once in the past.  Hmm ... here it is:

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=53163.

I don't know if point number 3 is currently possible. My local clinic was happy to send out appointments for tests on a time interval that you set-6 months in my case. That stopped in March and when I enquired they were doing no regular testing. Everything was by appointment only and basically just for people with symptoms. I don't know if that's changed, and I assume it varies from area to area.

[mr.bluesky]

A five seconds food rule is no use when you have a two second cat!

Or a 1 second dog   

[Doc Holliday]

If you ejaculated outside of her then the risk of her getting pregnant is extremely low 

Also, unless I missed it, you don't appear to have provided a link to the masseur in question?

These f**king stupid type questions should be banned.

[Doc Holliday]

Just in case this ever comes up for anyone searching for advice in the future apparently that PEP (taken for exposure for HIV) will be prescribed upto 72 hours after exposure...but that it is much more effective if taken within 24 hours.

The scenario described above would not qualify for prescription on the NHS though. Most instances of heterosexual vaginal sex do not. You could of course pay for it but that wouldn't really be warranted either.

[Digby232]

Unless you’ve caught covid basically it’s fuck off!! It’s all most health authorities care about at present!.

[Dopedj]

If you ejaculated outside of her then the risk of her getting pregnant is extremely low 

Also, unless I missed it, you don't appear to have provided a link to the masseur in question?

These f**king stupid type questions should be banned.

+1

[Hobbit]

You're gonna be fine most likely. But get yourself checked out nevertheless. Statistically, you have more chance of winning the lottery than catching HIV from bareback vaginal sex. But obviously it's dependent on who you're fucking and whether or not she has anything or not. So it's a high risk so you should go to a STI Clinic.

Be happy, stay safe, save the NHS and keep punting. 

[Zeusthedoc]

call me cynical but this sounds a bit too BS for me

you didn't notice? really, ok
i think what happened is that you did realise and it felt too good for you to do anything about it - i don't blame you, no rubber does feel good
but then you started to regret it and came on here in the hope that people would be sympathetic to your plight.

in any case
-wait 10-14 days and get a test
-don't have sex with anyone else in those 10 days, especially not unprotected sex
-post the masseuses profile

[winkywanky]

If you ejaculated outside of her then the risk of her getting pregnant is extremely low 

Also, unless I missed it, you don't appear to have provided a link to the masseur in question?

These f**king stupid type questions should be banned.

Indeed, that would be helpful. To, er, avoid obviously  .

Judging by the OP's previous punts this took place somewhere in Manchester.

[bhudda]

If you ejaculated outside of her then the risk of her getting pregnant is extremely low 

Also, unless I missed it, you don't appear to have provided a link to the masseur in question?

These f**king stupid type questions should be banned.

Chances of getting pregnant even lower if it was indeed a masseur

[Watts.E.Dunn]

Chances of getting pregnant even lower if it was indeed a masseur

Hows that then, they all on the pill?...

[bhudda]

Hows that then, they all on the pill?...

A masseur is male 

You may get a masseuse pregnant though

[ratedj]

A masseur is male 

You may get a masseuse pregnant though

 

[Doc Holliday]

Chances of getting pregnant even lower if it was indeed a masseur

 

I was being politically correct ( unlike me normally) The term masseur now applies to both sexes. In fact I seem to recall the preferred term is now massage therapists 

[GreyDave]

   This is why I carry a bottle of Nitromorse paint and Varnish stripper in Van ( so much better than the Bleach used by my old mate Donald ) and some 600 grit wet dry paper...

Soak both paper and knob in said stuff and wipe knob with grit paper risn with some pure Highland bottled water and all will be well 

In the 40 years of punting I had a dozen or so rubbers split on me and only known when Ive pulled out after cumming the WG`s all have gone Oh shit and flushed themselfs with a douche of water last one calmly did this and anouced it was 2nd batch of rubbers that this had happened to her  Soho she washed her self over bidet in room...

Ive got in past NSU from a civie bird so have been lucky a mate who is well hung and gets shaggs on hoildays off birds as result of what can be seen in swim short 2 years ago got...herps of knob not very nice its a chancy game BB I shagged BB loads in late 70`s and early 80`s  never a problem spunk flew all over place then came AIDS and it all changed 

[bobby1973]

Hello, went for a massage, offered extras, chose b2b. During the act the masseuse slid my cock inside her while not wearing a condom, dis not notice at first and thought she was still rubbing her pussy on my cock, around 30 secs later told her I’m cumming, that’s when she removed me quickly and I noticed what was going on.

Where was this 
as i love a b2b
but i don't want that

[winkywanky]

A masseur is male 

You may get a masseuse pregnant though

 

[Rochelle]

A masseur is male 

You may get a masseuse pregnant though

Actually, a masseur is a person who provides massage professionally. Just based on that definition, I'd say using the term to describe a woman is acceptable.

[winkywanky]

Actually, a masseur is a person who provides massage professionally. Just based on that definition, I'd say using the term to describe a woman is acceptable.

Interesting point.

Masseuse is the 'female' version of masseur, which is a general term for someone who provides massage.

masseur
/maˈsəː/
Learn to pronounce
noun
noun: masseur; plural noun: masseurs

a person who provides massage professionally.

In the same way that 'actress' is the female version of actor, which is a general term for someone who is a thespian (not to be confused with lesbian  ).

And as we all know, many actresses (female actors) don't like being referred to as actresses, they want to be seen/judged in exactly the same terms as their male counterparts so they want to be called simply actors.

[Rochelle]

Interesting point.

Masseuse is the 'female' version of masseur, which is a general term for someone who provides massage.

masseur
/maˈsəː/
Learn to pronounce
noun
noun: masseur; plural noun: masseurs

a person who provides massage professionally.

In the same way that 'actress' is the female version of actor, which is a general term for someone who is a thespian (not to be confused with lesbian  ).

And as we all know, many actresses (female actors) don't like being referred to as actresses, they want to be seen/judged in exactly the same terms as their male counterparts so they want to be called simply actors.

I use the word actor to describe a man and a woman, and it is correct.

[winkywanky]

I use the word actor to describe a man and a woman, and it is correct.

I think it's fair to say that in terms of social norms (and also within the industry), female actors were always referred to as actresses, certainly for as long as I can remember (double-edged sword, I go back further than you but perhaps my memory isn't what it used to be    ).

It is more recently that female thesps wish to be referred to as female actors rather than actresses.

When I say that, I genuinely have no opinion either way as to which is 'correct'. But it does tie in with the school of thought which says that if women want to be seen and judged as the equals of men within the acting profession, then they should also be called actors, and for the benefit of stuff like the Oscars, then you would have Best Male Actor and Best Female Actor as distinct categories.

[Rochelle]

I think it's fair to say that in terms of social norms (and also within the industry), female actors were always referred to as actresses, certainly for as long as I can remember (double-edged sword, I go back further than you but perhaps my memory isn't what it used to be    ).

It is more recently that female thesps wish to be referred to as female actors rather than actresses.

When I say that, I genuinely have no opinion either way as to which is 'correct'. But it does tie in with the school of thought which says that if women want to be seen and judged as the equals of men within the acting profession, then they should also be called actors, and for the benefit of stuff like the Oscars, then you would have Best Male Actor and Best Female Actor as distinct categories.

You are incorrect. Females were called actors. It was later that a distinction was made between actor and actress.

[winkywanky]

You are incorrect. Females and males were always referred to as actors. It was later that the term actresses started being used.

Do you have any timescale on that? When do you think they started being called actresses rather than female actors?

[Rochelle]

Do you have any timescale on that? When do you think they started being called actresses rather than female actors?

Both males and females were called actors. I do not know when they started to use actor for just male and actress for female but I shall look into it.

The definition of actor is a person whose profession is acting.

[winkywanky]

From Wikipedia:

The term actress

In contrast to Ancient Greek theatre, Ancient Roman theatre did allow female performers. While the majority of them were seldom employed in speaking roles but rather for dancing, there was a minority of actresses in Rome employed in speaking roles, and also those who achieved wealth, fame and recognition for their art, such as Eucharis, Dionysia, Galeria Copiola and Fabia Arete, and they also formed their own acting guild, the Sociae Mimae, which was evidently quite wealthy. [23] The profession seemingly died out in late antiquity.

While women did not begin to perform onstage in England until the second half of the 17th-century, they did appear in Italy, Spain and France from the late 16th-century onward. Lucrezia Di Siena, whose name is on an acting contract in Rome from 10 October 1564, has been referred to as the first Italian actress known by name, with Vincenza Armani and Barbara Flaminia as the first primadonnas and the first well documented actresses in Italy (and Europe). [4]

After 1660 in England, when women first started to appear on stage, the terms actor or actress were initially used interchangeably for female performers, but later, influenced by the French actrice, actress became the commonly used term for women in theater and film. The etymology is a simple derivation from actor with -ess added.[24] When referring to groups of performers of both sexes, actors is preferred.[25] Actor is also used before the full name of a performer as a gender-specific term.[citation needed]

Within the profession, the re-adoption of the neutral term dates to the post-war period of the 1950 and '60s, when the contributions of women to cultural life in general were being reviewed.[26] When The Observer and The Guardian published their new joint style guide in 2010, it stated "Use ['actor'] for both male and female actors; do not use actress except when in name of award, e.g. Oscar for best actress".[25] The guide's authors stated that "actress comes into the same category as authoress, comedienne, manageress, 'lady doctor', 'male nurse' and similar obsolete terms that date from a time when professions were largely the preserve of one sex (usually men)." (See male as norm.) "As Whoopi Goldberg put it in an interview with the paper: 'An actress can only play a woman. I'm an actor – I can play anything.'"[25] The UK performers' union Equity has no policy on the use of "actor" or "actress". An Equity spokesperson said that the union does not believe that there is a consensus on the matter and stated that the "...subject divides the profession".[25] In 2009, the Los Angeles Times stated that "Actress" remains the common term used in major acting awards given to female recipients[27] (e.g., Academy Award for Best Actress).

With regard to the cinema of the United States, the gender-neutral term "player" was common in film in the silent film era and the early days of the Motion Picture Production Code, but in the 2000s in a film context, it is generally deemed archaic.[citation needed] However, "player" remains in use in the theatre, often incorporated into the name of a theatre group or company, such as the American Players, the East West Players, etc. Also, actors in improvisational theatre may be referred to as "players".

Interesting.

Although of course we have now strayed way beyond the remit of a thread entitled: B2B turned into bareback sex/ Help! and I hold myself fully responsible for that  .

[daviemac]

Both males and females were called actors. I do not know when they started to use actor for just male and actress for female but I shall look into it.

If you married a prince would you also be a prince, or would you be classed as a princess.   

[Rochelle]

From Wikipedia:

The term actress

In contrast to Ancient Greek theatre, Ancient Roman theatre did allow female performers. While the majority of them were seldom employed in speaking roles but rather for dancing, there was a minority of actresses in Rome employed in speaking roles, and also those who achieved wealth, fame and recognition for their art, such as Eucharis, Dionysia, Galeria Copiola and Fabia Arete, and they also formed their own acting guild, the Sociae Mimae, which was evidently quite wealthy. [23] The profession seemingly died out in late antiquity.

While women did not begin to perform onstage in England until the second half of the 17th-century, they did appear in Italy, Spain and France from the late 16th-century onward. Lucrezia Di Siena, whose name is on an acting contract in Rome from 10 October 1564, has been referred to as the first Italian actress known by name, with Vincenza Armani and Barbara Flaminia as the first primadonnas and the first well documented actresses in Italy (and Europe). [4]

After 1660 in England, when women first started to appear on stage, the terms actor or actress were initially used interchangeably for female performers, but later, influenced by the French actrice, actress became the commonly used term for women in theater and film. The etymology is a simple derivation from actor with -ess added.[24] When referring to groups of performers of both sexes, actors is preferred.[25] Actor is also used before the full name of a performer as a gender-specific term.[citation needed]

Within the profession, the re-adoption of the neutral term dates to the post-war period of the 1950 and '60s, when the contributions of women to cultural life in general were being reviewed.[26] When The Observer and The Guardian published their new joint style guide in 2010, it stated "Use ['actor'] for both male and female actors; do not use actress except when in name of award, e.g. Oscar for best actress".[25] The guide's authors stated that "actress comes into the same category as authoress, comedienne, manageress, 'lady doctor', 'male nurse' and similar obsolete terms that date from a time when professions were largely the preserve of one sex (usually men)." (See male as norm.) "As Whoopi Goldberg put it in an interview with the paper: 'An actress can only play a woman. I'm an actor – I can play anything.'"[25] The UK performers' union Equity has no policy on the use of "actor" or "actress". An Equity spokesperson said that the union does not believe that there is a consensus on the matter and stated that the "...subject divides the profession".[25] In 2009, the Los Angeles Times stated that "Actress" remains the common term used in major acting awards given to female recipients[27] (e.g., Academy Award for Best Actress).

With regard to the cinema of the United States, the gender-neutral term "player" was common in film in the silent film era and the early days of the Motion Picture Production Code, but in the 2000s in a film context, it is generally deemed archaic.[citation needed] However, "player" remains in use in the theatre, often incorporated into the name of a theatre group or company, such as the American Players, the East West Players, etc. Also, actors in improvisational theatre may be referred to as "players".

Interesting.

Although of course we have now strayed way beyond the remit of a thread entitled: B2B turned into bareback sex/ Help! and I hold myself fully responsible for that  .

So I was right...again. 

Okay, I'll end it there.

[Rochelle]

If you married a prince would you also be a prince, or would you be classed as a princess.   

That's not the same thing and you know it. Prince or princess, aunt or uncle, mother or father. Those are specific.

[daviemac]

That's not the same thing and you know it.

Of course it is, there's gender specific names for loads of things. It's just political correctness that they aren't used now. the funny thing is quite a few where what would be the 'male' version mean both sexes, whereas the female version only mean female. - Actor = both, actress = only female.  Funny old world.

Anyway back to avoiding BB I suppose.

[winkywanky]

So I was right...again. 

Okay, I'll end it there.

I'd say not really, it's gone back and forth over time, generally depending on social norms of the day. That Wikipedia piece describes the re-evaluation of the role of women in society in the 50s and 60s in the wake of WW2 but it took until 2010 for the Grauniad/Observer to set it out in print as being 'fact'.

There was even a Music Hall song Don't put your daughter on the stage Mrs. Worthington and in Victorian Times and beyond it was considered that women treading the boards was little more than prostitution (I use the term 'little more' in the context of the time). That was probably more to do with the way that women were regarded at the time, rather than a desire to act being in some way inextricably intertwined with prostitution. Although of course, many a punter would say that there's a bit of acting going on at most punts  .

[winkywanky]

If you married a prince would you also be a prince, or would you be classed as a princess.   

So I was right...again. 

I think there's little doubt that on occasion, Rochelle might be considered a little Princess (that's by degree, not by stature). But IMO a bit of feisty is welcome here on occasion  .

[Gordon Bennett]

I think Rochelle is a goddess.

[winkywanky]

Don't bring religion into it!   

[Rochelle]

I think Rochelle is a goddess.

Lol, very funny.