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Offline Mikefr1972

I had booked to see Apple at Annabella's today. I had made the booking a couple of days ago and was told to confirm on the day.

I called this morning at 11.45 ( I had been told to call by 10.30) But due to running late I was late. The maid chastised me for calling late. I apologised but she repeated in harsh voice you should have called by 10.30.
I asked if Apple was booked for the time that I had booked. She was not. I told the maid she needed to be polite and not rude to clients. Anyway, I was pissed and cancelled my booking. I have visited this joint many times in the past, but they have lost me as a client.

My point is this. Why do these maids treat us money paying as shit. And should we put up with it.

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Part of their job is to do the filtering for the SPs and they probably have bad days just like the rest of us. You were in the wrong, so you just have to take it on the chin sometimes. No need to throw your toys out of your pram.

And yes you have to put up with it if you want to shag their SPs. Treat them nicely and folow their rules and they'll be nice to you.
« Last Edit: February 03, 2023, 03:37:12 pm by RandomGuy99 »

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I called this morning at 11.45 ( I had been told to call by 10.30)
You called late and they're in the wrong? If you can't afford them the common courtesy of contacting at the agreed time . . . . .

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Ffs not another one... I was late for my train the
Other day and the bloody driver didn't wait for me  :(

Offline contentguy


I asked if Apple was booked for the time that I had booked. She was not. I told the maid she needed to be polite and not rude to clients. Anyway, I was pissed and cancelled my booking. I have visited this joint many times in the past,* but they have lost me as a client.

My point is this. Why do these maids treat us money paying as shit. And should we put up with it.

* I bet they're gutted, and wonder if after your words of wisdom whether you'd be welcome back?

I wonder why you didn't you go "full on Karen" and ask to see the manager?   :unknown:

Offline Munter84

I've fallen foul of a grumpy maid before (different agency) and have to admit I felt pretty defensive and hurt at the time. In hindsight though? It's nothing personal. These places deal with a lot of punters and I gather a lot of them are time-wasters. They aren't mind-readers and they don't know (or care) about your reasons for not calling on time.

Probably the best you could have done there would be to apologise for the unintended lateness and point out that this is the first time in many bookings you've been unable to call on time. Burning your bridges hurts you more than them.

Offline StingRay

I've always found the maids to be very friendly and helpful at the London branch of the chain referenced by the OP. Mind you, I make a point of always confirming the booking by the required time, even though I've sometimes been on a crowded train which can be challenging! They even called me back later in the day once, after I had confirmed, to advise that the girl had been taken ill and gone home sick. I think they actually have quite a difficult job sometimes given that they have to manage the bookings and confirmations for a number of girls and things can change at short notice, especially given the current transport strikes situation.
« Last Edit: February 03, 2023, 06:43:26 pm by StingRay »

Offline shed

Not surprised that some maids become rude and impatient. The stupid idiotic questions they must be asked on a daily basis. Not the easiest job and difficult not to lose ones rag

Offline Stevelondon

Have you thought about maybe writing a letter of complaint…… :lol:

Offline LLPunting

Sorry this defending maids is horse shit.  We are paying clients so if they want confirmation that we're turning up they should call us or text.  Sure they have to deal with timewasters but that's what they are partly paid for!

Any credible professional service provider, sex or regular business, has contacted me if they are the ones anxious about a meeting taking place.  If we are known to each other, doing repeat business, then we respect each other by notifying one another as soon as we become aware of an issue affecting out business.  My regulars do this, the managements of parlours and flats who recognise me do too and those genuine professionals dealing with me for the first time likewise are the ones contacting to confirm; back in their heyday Aprov, Diva, Barracuda, Olina, 90minutes et al all took the initiative to manage the meetings, confirming on the day and advising if the girls were ready early or running late.  EE, Chinese, Thai, Brit, whomever, those who know proper business etiquette all respect the client.
Only criminals and disrespectful operators treat the clients with the contempt the OP is questioning.

Offline contentguy

Sorry this defending maids is horse shit.  We are paying clients so if they want confirmation that we're turning up they should call us or text.  Sure they have to deal with timewasters but that's what they are partly paid for!

Any credible professional service provider, sex or regular business, has contacted me if they are the ones anxious about a meeting taking place.  If we are known to each other, doing repeat business, then we respect each other by notifying one another as soon as we become aware of an issue affecting out business.  My regulars do this, the managements of parlours and flats who recognise me do too and those genuine professionals dealing with me for the first time likewise are the ones contacting to confirm; back in their heyday Aprov, Diva, Barracuda, Olina, 90minutes et al all took the initiative to manage the meetings, confirming on the day and advising if the girls were ready early or running late.  EE, Chinese, Thai, Brit, whomever, those who know proper business etiquette all respect the client.
Only criminals and disrespectful operators treat the clients with the contempt the OP is questioning.

To clarify - are you suggesting the OP did the right thing?
You think he's welcome back if he want's to return to Annabelles?

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Sorry this defending maids is horse shit.  We are paying clients so if they want confirmation that we're turning up they should call us or text.  Sure they have to deal with timewasters but that's what they are partly paid for!
Are you really saying service providers should contact the punter.   :unknown:  Heard it all now.

Standard procedure is for the punter to confirm as and when if the SP requires it. If they don't hear by the deadline they take another booking or do you think they should wait around on the off chance it does get confirmed.

If any SP contacted me without my express permission to ask if I was still coming I would cancel and post a negative on here. Having said that I would make sure I had confirmed before their deadline.


Offline LLPunting

To clarify - are you suggesting the OP did the right thing?
You think he's welcome back if he want's to return to Annabelles?

Annabelles and their sister op in MK bank on their lock on the local market, their affiliation with HoD under the banner of their officially condoned exploiter don't deserve the patronage.  The girls should form a cooperative and run their own shop.

If a maid gave me the lip he reports then I'd also have said something about her manners and dumped the operation.  I have sworn off a number of crews with shitty management.  Easier to do here in London and that's part of the reason why the MK cartel can get away with their shit.  In my less informed days when HoD were just in the one place in South Ken and the girls were pretty good I frequented them a fair amount, even schlepped to MK a few times to try their girls who didn't come to London, but they messed me about with poor service and double bookings and then the girls got worse as they opened more sites so I binned the lot.  Then I learned about Mr HoD and there's no way I'm giving them another look.  If any of the well regarded girls go indie and seem VFM then I may book them indie.

OP may find he's fucked for local choice by excluding them but there are other ways to enjoy punting.  GL to him if he sticks to his principles.  If he's got a ball'n'chain to work around then guess life might be pretty shit for him.  Hopefully he's got better cock control than I and can cork it long enough to go epic with a darling (or duo or trio) further afield.

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Don't know about you guys but to me parlour maids and GP receptionists must receive the same training everywhere...

They keep you waiting on the phone, when they answer they ask awkward questions, they get shirty with you if you don't reply as expected.  Then they try to book you for hours you told them weren't good for you, etc.

Offline jesse4585

Why do these maids treat us money paying customers as shit. And should we put up with it.
Sounds like she was well out of order. If more punters like you respond by withholding business, that should be an effective way to encourage them to treat us better.

By chance I met the Annabelle's maid in person yesterday. Had a punt with Jess who was fantastic - will review in a bit once I've calmed down & can be more objective.  Not meaning to defend the maid but just to have a go at answering your why question.  I think the maid was extra busy yesterday per it being Jess's first day back & lots of punters Jamming the lines trying to book her or confirm pre-bookings.  Tried phoning five times between 10 - 1030 but coudlnt get through - so double out of order that she critcised you for not doing so.   Anyway, I suspect the maid was stressed from being on the phone  for maybe an hour+ solid. Plus she wont like hearing of cancelations or delays as she's the one who has to deliver the bad news to the lass - and some of the WGs really dont like cancellations. It makes it worse if its a late cancellation as more chance of re-arranging a booking if they hear about it before 10:30.

Maid was a bit more business like than HoD/MKE maids normally are when I finally got through on the phone - but not rude. She was real friendly when i met her at the flat for my punt with Jess - good looking lass under 30 too, I guess being young means she's less experience handling the bad news of a late cancellation.

Offline JustaPunter

I had booked to see Apple at Annabella's today. I had made the booking a couple of days ago and was told to confirm on the day.

I called this morning at 11.45 ( I had been told to call by 10.30) But due to running late I was late. The maid chastised me for calling late. I apologised but she repeated in harsh voice you should have called by 10.30.
I asked if Apple was booked for the time that I had booked. She was not. I told the maid she needed to be polite and not rude to clients. Anyway, I was pissed and cancelled my booking. I have visited this joint many times in the past, but they have lost me as a client.

My point is this. Why do these maids treat us money paying as shit. And should we put up with it.

Entitled much….


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Annabelles and their sister op in MK bank on their lock on the local market, their affiliation with HoD under the banner of their officially condoned exploiter don't deserve the patronage.  The girls should form a cooperative and run their own shop.

If a maid gave me the lip he reports then I'd also have said something about her manners and dumped the operation.  I have sworn off a number of crews with shitty management.  Easier to do here in London and that's part of the reason why the MK cartel can get away with their shit.  In my less informed days when HoD were just in the one place in South Ken and the girls were pretty good I frequented them a fair amount, even schlepped to MK a few times to try their girls who didn't come to London, but they messed me about with poor service and double bookings and then the girls got worse as they opened more sites so I binned the lot.  Then I learned about Mr HoD and there's no way I'm giving them another look.  If any of the well regarded girls go indie and seem VFM then I may book them indie.

OP may find he's fucked for local choice by excluding them but there are other ways to enjoy punting.  GL to him if he sticks to his principles.  If he's got a ball'n'chain to work around then guess life might be pretty shit for him.  Hopefully he's got better cock control than I and can cork it long enough to go epic with a darling (or duo or trio) further afield.
It’s clear your issue is with this agency. I don’t know this agency but from what you’re saying it’s the same reason why I don’t use any of them as far as I’m aware. Someone has influence over the escorts. That age old question of coercion / control. Pimping.

But the OP was in the wrong, that’s a fact. He was asked to call by a certain time and didn’t. What happened afterwards is secondary. It’s he said she said.

If one of my clients is late to a meeting, then I don’t just roll over and let them abuse me. I don’t just suck it up to make a few quid. As I don’t want to work for people who disrespect me. I make it known that they’ve wasted my time that could have been better used elsewhere. Now I might choose to be polite about it or less so, depending on how much I value them as a client and think that they can change their ways.

Offline Adoniron

Apart from being told lies about the girl's age and looks (which is an accepted risk of this hobby) I've never had a problem with a maid.

Offline northface

Be courteous at all times.
It worked for me when I turned up for a mid morning punt and the maid and girl had slept in.
I left a text saying cant wait any longer and hope nothing serious had happened.
About an hour later she text and could not apologise enough and said my next appointment was free.

I duly went 2 weeks later and she remembered and was given a free hour with just £20 to pay for CIM
This was in the North East
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Offline LLPunting

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If one of my clients is late to a meeting, then I don’t just roll over and let them abuse me. I don’t just suck it up to make a few quid. As I don’t want to work for people who disrespect me. I make it known that they’ve wasted my time that could have been better used elsewhere. Now I might choose to be polite about it or less so, depending on how much I value them as a client and think that they can change their ways.

The conceit you are displaying/propounding here is that the service provider is some kind of rare treasure that all should kowtow to.  The fact is that the sp is one amongst many.  The client has asked for an appointment convenient to their diary because they, like you are busy people with plenty of commitments but unlike the SP they are offering to pay for the meeting to take place in good faith that they might be worth it.
The relationship you are supporting is not one of equal respect nor does it acknowledge that money will be exchanging hands.  Even if there were no financial interest and the meeting was a social one the dynamic you are proposing is still one of assumed hierarchical iniquity.
The fault above is not about being late to make a call, the fault is the conceit that OP should be required to make the call at all.
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The fault above is not about being late to make a call, the fault is the conceit that OP should be required to make the call at all.

I wouldn’t call it conceit being asked to confirm an appointment.
Or is it just conceit in this case because of your views of this establishment?

Either way, like most things punting, you pays your money and takes your choice.  If you don’t like the establishment’s MO, don’t book.

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The conceit you are displaying/propounding here is that the service provider is some kind of rare treasure that all should kowtow to.  The fact is that the sp is one amongst many.  The client has asked for an appointment convenient to their diary because they, like you are busy people with plenty of commitments but unlike the SP they are offering to pay for the meeting to take place in good faith that they might be worth it.
The relationship you are supporting is not one of equal respect nor does it acknowledge that money will be exchanging hands.  Even if there were no financial interest and the meeting was a social one the dynamic you are proposing is still one of assumed hierarchical iniquity.
The fault above is not about being late to make a call, the fault is the conceit that OP should be required to make the call at all.
I honestly can't believe what I'm reading from you, I don't know if it's because you have some grievance with certain members or the establishment, but if confirmation of the booking is required then the punter should confirm within the timescale set.

Try being 45 minutes late to check-in at an airport, or get to a train station 45 minutes after the train has left.

Confirmation of a booking on the day is very much standard procedure.

Offline hendrix

One hour 15 minutes late with no updates to say you're late?

Red card imo.

Offline luv2kiss54

Apart from being told lies about the girl's age and looks (which is an accepted risk of this hobby) I've never had a problem with a maid.

Dont forget the lying about the services the girl will provide BUT doesnt.

Offline contentguy

The OP’s been mighty quiet!

Perhaps he’s writing that letter to “the management”, or maybe he’s just reflecting that he may have been having a bad day.  The maid was perhaps having a bad day, and if they both reined it a bit he’d be welcome back.

Offline tynetunnel

I have no idea why the OP thinks the maid unreasonable. It’s common courtesy if making a booking with the requirement to confirm, to do so. And part of the agreement when the booking was made.

This establishment has costs in terms of staffing and running expenses, and the girl herself is providing this service by way of making a living. The reason you have to confirm is I expect due to the amount of time wasters. If you don’t confirm they will allow someone else to book for your time. Which to me is perfectly fair and reasonable. They are running a business after all, not providing a social service.

OP is a kn*b  :hi:

Offline jimbobted

I've never been treated with anything other than total politeness by the maid. Even had a long text conversation with one about various things last year.

Offline Charlie Chalk

The fault above is not about being late to make a call, the fault is the conceit that OP should be required to make the call at all.
You really think that the SP should call punters to confirm appointments? You haven’t considered there are a multitude of good reasons why this isn’t standard practice?

You seem to be allowing your obvious issues with this establishment to cloud your judgement. However you try and spin it, an agreement was made by the OP, he failed to keep his side of the bargain and lost his booking as a result. Tough luck on him but he can’t blame anyone but himself.

Offline LLPunting

I honestly can't believe what I'm reading from you, I don't know if it's because you have some grievance with certain members or the establishment, but if confirmation of the booking is required then the punter should confirm within the timescale set.

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Sorry DM, no it's not the particular establishment wrt to OP's issue.  I've no grievance with the lads here, didn't mean to imply any either.  I'm debating the point raised.  Perhaps our different takes on this are just down to the distribution of demands made by those we've tried to book.  :unknown:

As I said above the underlying fault is not about OP not calling in time.  He shouldn't have been obliged to in the first place.  He and the SP/maid agreed a meeting time, there was no uncertainty on his part such that a confirmation should be needed.  The maid was selfishly introducing an unnecessary condition prone to failure from any number of simple circumstances beyond either parties' control.  Her conceit is that the client has nothing better to do than solely service her scheduling needs to spend his money.  Where's her assurance that from 10:30 the SP won't be running late when the punter arrives?  She also makes no allowance for the fact he likely has responsibilities elsewhere that trump his calling to say he still wants to pay to fuck later today. 
If she's trying to mitigate timewasters then asking for a morning call doesn't really achieve this, people can still be delayed or prevented from meeting and she'd still be relying on them to be able/willing to call her to cancel. 
She could try asking for prepayment (ha! say goodbye to customers) or multi-book and declare first-come-first-serve (that'd be real popular, not!) or multi-book and ghost those who didn't arrive first (haven't we seen this scenario?) or just run a walk-up.

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Try being 45 minutes late to check-in at an airport, or get to a train station 45 minutes after the train has left.

Sorry I've never had to call hours ahead to a check-in to say I'm still coming to check-in, I either check-in online and perhaps still fail to get to the airport on time or do so in person before the check-in deadline and catch the plane. 
Nor do I call a station to say I'm still coming to catch the train that won't leave for hours yet.
In neither case does my calling in advance prevent the vehicle leaving without me if I'm late. 
If I'm running late then the only call I'm making is to seek alternative travel options with the carrier as soon as it becomes apparent.

When I've made an appointment with the doctor or the STI clinic, I've had no stipulation that I call on the morning to confirm I'm still coming.  I just turn up and register at reception before my assigned appointment time knowing full well that if I'm late other patients may well proceed before me.
If I book a plumber I'm not told I have to call them on the day to see if they're still coming or indeed to confirm to them I still need them.  Indeed I may well have had to prepay a call-out fee.  They do however typically say they will call when they're on their way to give best estimate of arrival time.


To the point about her getting shirty because he was late calling despite the fact that the SP was still available, that's all on her.  OP was justified to call her out and cancel when she failed to apologise. 

The volume of my punting is pretty high so I've made more than a few booking attempts to make it happen.  Whether I've been booking parlour girls, indies or managed SPs for the first time or repeat business I've not had an overwhelming demand for reassurance calls leading me to believe there's some industry-wide etiquette.  Yes I have had some requests to call to confirm on the day, more often I might be told to call an hour or 30 mins before arrival but mostly I'm told to call on arrival for final entry details.
- In the case of the former I'm more likely to abort the booking and find a more trusting (and trustworthy) SP as during my working day I will have superceding priorities that don't allow for confirmations to be sent from a punting phone which is on silent (or off) in my bag back at my desk. 
- In the case of confirm x minutes before I will explain that I am likely to be underground travelling to the appointment so unable to confirm as requested.  If that's no good for them then booking aborted and I book someone else. 


Offline LLPunting

You really think that the SP should call punters to confirm appointments? You haven’t considered there are a multitude of good reasons why this isn’t standard practice?

You seem to be allowing your obvious issues with this establishment to cloud your judgement. However you try and spin it, an agreement was made by the OP, he failed to keep his side of the bargain and lost his booking as a result. Tough luck on him but he can’t blame anyone but himself.

I've punted many who have taken the seconds needed to contact me to confirm a meeting.  The more lengthy interactions have either been because they or the SP have an issue keeping to the meeting or they've had another punter ask for the same appointment and want to see if I can reschedule.

When you say "standard practice" what are you basing this on.  As mentioned in reply to DM my experience of hundreds of booking attempts has not established any robust protocol implemented by every SP/operation that ensures appointments proceed as booked just because the punter has to call hours before the meeting to say he still intends to turn up.  More often than anything else it is the SP who lets the punter down despite any number of confirmations sent either because they were asked for or indeed the punter sent for his reassurance because he didn't trust the SP.  Been ghosted at all?  How about the "the landlord has turned up unannounced"?  "The previous punter extended, you wait?"

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Sorry DM, no it's not the particular establishment wrt to OP's issue.  I've no grievance with the lads here, didn't mean to imply any either.  I'm debating the point raised.  Perhaps our different takes on this are just down to the distribution of demands made by those we've tried to book.  :unknown:
I'm sorry but I just don't believe that you, as an experienced punter, haven't heard of the requirement to confirm a booking on the morning of the punt before a given time. unless of course you don't make bookings and just use walk-ups. It's standard procedure, book a couple of days or whatever in advance and confirm on the day before a certain time.

By denying any knowledge of what is a regular occurrence in the world of punting you give the distinct impression you have some major issue with either the establishment or the members on here.

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Sorry I've never had to call hours ahead to a check-in to say I'm still coming to check-in, I either check-in online and perhaps still fail to get to the airport on time or do so in person before the check-in deadline and catch the plane. 
Let me put that in terms that might be easier to understand. The phone call to confirm the booking isn't the booking, the check-in at the airport isn't the flight. The phone call is made to confirm you will be there for the booking, the check-in at the airport confirms you will be in the airport ready when boarding starts.

If you miss the deadline to confirm your booking you lose the booking, if you miss the check-in deadline you miss the flight, it's very simple.

Reading your post you come across as someone very new to punting who doesn't understand the way it works, however that can't be true so there must be some other motive for the way you are posting.

As far as you saying SPs should be contacting punters, have you ever read this site?? that is one of the biggest no no's going and for someone like you to suggest it beggars belief.

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l never have and never will ask an SP to contact me before a booking.Even though l have a bare bones punting phone that is only ever powered up on the day of the booking, l don't want any contact from them unless initiated by me.

Offline FLYING BLUE

Are you really saying service providers should contact the punter.   :unknown:  Heard it all now.

Standard procedure is for the punter to confirm as and when if the SP requires it. If they don't hear by the deadline they take another booking or do you think they should wait around on the off chance it does get confirmed.

If any SP contacted me without my express permission to ask if I was still coming I would cancel and post a negative on here. Having said that I would make sure I had confirmed before their deadline.

This, exactly :thumbsup:

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I'm sorry but I just don't believe that you, as an experienced punter, haven't heard of the requirement to confirm a booking on the morning of the punt before a given time. unless of course you don't make bookings and just use walk-ups. It's standard procedure, book a couple of days or whatever in advance and confirm on the day before a certain time.

By denying any knowledge of what is a regular occurrence in the world of punting you give the distinct impression you have some major issue with either the establishment or the members on here.
Let me put that in terms that might be easier to understand. The phone call to confirm the booking isn't the booking, the check-in at the airport isn't the flight. The phone call is made to confirm you will be there for the booking, the check-in at the airport confirms you will be in the airport ready when boarding starts.

If you miss the deadline to confirm your booking you lose the booking, if you miss the check-in deadline you miss the flight, it's very simple.

Reading your post you come across as someone very new to punting who doesn't understand the way it works, however that can't be true so there must be some other motive for the way you are posting.

As far as you saying SPs should be contacting punters, have you ever read this site?? that is one of the biggest no no's going and for someone like you to suggest it beggars belief.

This 100% all of it

If I have an advance booking then a confirmation is required on the day, almost every other working girl I know has the same policy.
There are multiple threads on it on here and EH

Personally I think LL has realised he's made a twat of himself and is too stubborn to admit it so he's digging a deeper and deeper hole trying to justify his point  :rolleyes:

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This 100% all of it

If I have an advance booking then a confirmation is required on the day, almost every other working girl I know has the same policy.
There are multiple threads on it on here and EH

Personally I think LL has realised he's made a twat of himself and is too stubborn to admit it so he's digging a deeper and deeper hole trying to justify his point  :rolleyes:
There's one escort I see quite often, the booking procedure is confirm on the day before 9 am, get given the address minus the door number at that stage then txt at the appointment time when at the address to get the door number. They know I'm going to turn up, they also know I know the address and the door number but guess what, I txt to confirm in the morning, they txt back with the address, I txt again at the appointment time and get given the door number I already know. It just keeps everything right, the txt in the morning shows I, or anyone else, still want the booking and the txt at the appointment time tells them I've turned up.



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This 100% all of it

If I have an advance booking then a confirmation is required on the day, almost every other working girl I know has the same policy.
There are multiple threads on it on here and EH

Personally I think LL has realised he's made a twat of himself and is too stubborn to admit it so he's digging a deeper and deeper hole trying to justify his point  :rolleyes:

Nothing to do with twat or hole.

DM and I are talking in different contexts, he makes a statement with the scenario and interpretation in his mind and I read the same words and have a different plausible interpretation.  He has just asserted something contrary to what I said because I have acknowledged being asked to call to confirm and I've clearly said that I don't proceed with bookings requiring such demands because they are not convenient to the rest of my priorities in the working day.  There is no denying it doesn't happen, I have clearly stated that in my experience it is not any kind of inescapable or even predominant expectation.  To name a few I have booked in advance with the Osterley crew, Skyline, Elverson, Olina, New Malden, Kri Han, some other Bayswater Thai lot, numerous indies of various nationalities and none have needed me to reassure them in the morning.  Some are regulars, some I use infrequently and many were first time encounters all resulted in an expectant door opening.  What happened subsequently ran the usual gamut of situations in this game, many of which are reviewed.

I have explained my experience given I avoid those requiring this condition, he has chosen to dismiss that as neophyte fantasy. 

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I always have to confirm my advance bookings on the day. If I don't then I lose my booking. It does seem to be the standard that the SPs follow.

Offline LLPunting

l never have and never will ask an SP to contact me before a booking.Even though l have a bare bones punting phone that is only ever powered up on the day of the booking, l don't want any contact from them unless initiated by me.

Where did I insist that an SP call me in the morning?  I certainly didn't mean to assert that.  I meant that if an SP/management were so uncertain about my attending then they could call/txt me, I might not appreciate it but they could and I could respond when next I checked my punting phone.  However when I book an SP I commit to that arrangement, just as when I book a holiday I commit to the travel arrangements required.

And what happens if they have to advise you of a problem their side that affects your booking?  Never had an SP go sick, have her period come on, be delayed getting to venue, ask to reschedule because she's trying to accommodate another punter, ask for a delay because she's running behind...
If you only power up your phone as you're leaving work to go to the punt...

Being asked to confirm in the morning only assures the organiser that I still intend to attend as of that moment in the morning.  In the subsequent hours anything may happen to kibbosh the plans.  What's the most efficient way to manage such eventualities of Life?  Call only when the plans might need to be changed.

Clearly we all have different ways we like to arrange things, they all work, some may be more or less onerous, some may mitigate eventualities better than others sometimes.

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Where did I insist that an SP call me in the morning?
It looks like you're forgetting what you've posted.

Sorry this defending maids is horse shit.  We are paying clients so if they want confirmation that we're turning up they should call us or text. 

It can't be much clearer, you are saying the SPs should be contacting the punter if they want the booking confirmed.   :unknown:

Offline LLPunting

I'm sorry but I just don't believe that you, as an experienced punter, haven't heard of the requirement to confirm a booking on the morning of the punt before a given time. unless of course you don't make bookings and just use walk-ups. It's standard procedure, book a couple of days or whatever in advance and confirm on the day before a certain time.

By denying any knowledge of what is a regular occurrence in the world of punting you give the distinct impression you have some major issue with either the establishment or the members on here.
Let me put that in terms that might be easier to understand. The phone call to confirm the booking isn't the booking, the check-in at the airport isn't the flight. The phone call is made to confirm you will be there for the booking, the check-in at the airport confirms you will be in the airport ready when boarding starts.

If you miss the deadline to confirm your booking you lose the booking, if you miss the check-in deadline you miss the flight, it's very simple.

Reading your post you come across as someone very new to punting who doesn't understand the way it works, however that can't be true so there must be some other motive for the way you are posting.

As far as you saying SPs should be contacting punters, have you ever read this site?? that is one of the biggest no no's going and for someone like you to suggest it beggars belief.

I'm not denying anything and again I'm not ragging on any members I am trying to address the point of practice, kindly stop making claims otherwise.

Here's another way to consider it, confirmation bias, you are happy to subscribe to a confirm in the morning protocol so you happily proceed with bookings needing such, result you have a lot of booking that are managed that way.  That's your (and others' like you) happy lived experience.   :thumbsup: for all of you.
I don't proceed with such bookings and find others who are happy to take the initial agreed booking to be final and expect me to turn up, which I do.  Some might ask me to let them know if I have to cancel others don't, as it happens I let them know if anything comes up and we try to resolve it at that time.  Infallible? No but it certainly has enabled me to punt as I have.  So that's my lived experience.  :thumbsup: for me.

Where did I say that failing to check-in resulted in anything other than missing the departure? 
You have the steps in your mind for making a booking, I have mine, hopefully they achieve the same thing but we're ultimately designing different User Experiences.  We can expand the flow as far back as you like to the point of thinking about going travelling (browsing for a punt) but it's not necessary here.
- I took "call SP and agree a date and time" to be the equivalent to "book and pay for journey (and receive tickets)".  My only reasons to cancel will be because I can no longer make it or some new intelligence emerges (thankyou UKP) that makes me doubt the SP.  And I would do that as soon as I'd made the decision and tell her immediately be it before of after "10:30 am" on the day.
- Remote/advance check-in any number of hours (or days) prior to departure supposedly confirms your intent to get to the port of departure, it does not guarantee you will be there because things can still happen. 
- Check-in and baggage drop at the (air)port is very much a last mile part of the process, your intent to travel is pretty much locked-in as far as the carrier is concerned, It's like being outside the SP's premises.

If you don't like how I see things then fine, no point debating it further and I'm happy to not debate the point.
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Fuck me, and I thought I was a pedant!  :wacko:

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Relevant story here:   2 weeks ago I had a solid booking with Veronikaxo; postcode received, it seemed to be all good.   Knowing  her flaky reputation I was still pretty doubtful that it would happen but hey-ho.   An hour later we had a txt exchange initiated by me outlining my interests to which she responded promptly and enthusiastically.   I ended up booking an xtra chunk of time and activity with her with which she was very happy.  So I became completely confident that this booking would happen and go well.

She had asked me to confirm an hour before meet time.  I confirmed 1.5 hours beforehand.  A few minutes later she txted to cancel ; the classic  "sorry Babe, something's come up."     I'm pretty sure that if I hadn't confirmed she wouldn't have bothered to inform me.   Grr !!  I'd want to post this as a neg review purely because of that assumption.  (actually, i realize only while writing this that she might have reasoned that I only deserved information because I had confirmed.  Not sure how that affects the blame game).   Anyway,   Grr !!   :diablo:

What I'm sounding off about, tho, is  the unreliability of  arrangements no matter how many confirmations are flying around from both sides.   Double grr.... :timeout:

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This 100% all of it

If I have an advance booking then a confirmation is required on the day, almost every other working girl I know has the same policy.
There are multiple threads on it on here and EH

Personally I think LL has realised he's made a twat of himself and is too stubborn to admit it so he's digging a deeper and deeper hole trying to justify his point  :rolleyes:

Rubbish.   The crucial point here IMO is what time the confirmation is required by.   My schedules sometime mean that i cannot for various reasons comply with an early am txt.   I've found that once I explain to the SP why I cannot comply, and suggest an alternative time at midday, I've never had any problem.

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Rubbish.   The crucial point here IMO is what time the confirmation is required by.   My schedules sometime mean that i cannot for various reasons comply with an early am txt.   I've found that once I explain to the SP why I cannot comply, and suggest an alternative time at midday, I've never had any problem.

I'm sorry but at what point did I specify what time all SP's want a confirmation by? You appear to be disagreeing with me just because I'm an sp :rolleyes:

If its an evening booking made in advance of the day I'm happy to have a confirmation by 1pm for example , if that's what works for my client, as long as we agree a time to confirm by and that happens then all is good, if he's very late confirming then the booking might not happen.

What I'm saying is a confirmation on the day of the booking is a very common place working practice.

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Rubbish.   The crucial point here IMO is what time the confirmation is required by.   My schedules sometime mean that i cannot for various reasons comply with an early am txt.   I've found that once I explain to the SP why I cannot comply, and suggest an alternative time at midday, I've never had any problem.
Clearly you’ve got an issue too. He was told to call by / at 10am. He knew that time and he didn’t debate it when that time was set.

It’s not fucking rocket science. But it is amazing how many punters don’t seem to get it or don’t want to get it. Your time is valuable the escort’s time is valuable. Show some mutual respect….. But there’s the crux of it yet again, the respect has to only come one way in a fair few punters’ eyes.

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Relevant story here:   2 weeks ago I had a solid booking with Veronikaxo; postcode received, it seemed to be all good.   Knowing  her flaky reputation I was still pretty doubtful that it would happen but hey-ho.   .........

Would have made a good review, you say she's got a flaky reputation.  Searching on here finds no mention of her.  Nobody with that nick on AW and a google search does't find an escort going by that name.

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Offline Colston36

I honestly can't believe what I'm reading from you, I don't know if it's because you have some grievance with certain members or the establishment, but if confirmation of the booking is required then the punter should confirm within the timescale set.

Try being 45 minutes late to check-in at an airport, or get to a train station 45 minutes after the train has left.

Confirmation of a booking on the day is very much standard procedure.

I make a point of keeping whoever I'm seeing informed. Makes life easier for everyone. £200 an hour or whatever doesn't make you master of the universe. You're just someone who pays because you can't get it free. And so am I.


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Offline Mikefr1972

I am surprised with all who defend bad maids. I am spending my hard earned money and don't expect to be treated badly. Same as I don't expect to to rudeness when I go in to a shop. in this instance Annabel's lost a client. I am sure they won't go bankrupt because of that. But I happily spent my money elsewhere that appreciated my custom. I do hope Apple got another client to replace me as it was not her fault