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Offline horsa

take 100mg
throbbing head
face on fire
but my main concern is my dick, it stays rock hard to touch with my hand... but doesn't feel super hard when having OWO or sex etc..maybe numbness?
aswell my glans reduce significantly regarding sensitivity, can't feel anything and I can't cum

Offline southcoastpunter

have you just started taking it?

may depend on age etc - but i have started taking it in the last 6 months or so. I get 50's and cut them in half so only take 25. that is enough most of the time. i will take 50mg if i have had a big meal or more than say 2 drinks.

I don't get any side effect other than a slight block nose for an hour or so. Oh and yes it does reduce sensitivity a bit so i last longer - but usually manage to cum.
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Offline daviemac

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take 100mg
Surprised you've been prescribed 100mg, I was under the impression the normal prescription does is 50mg.   :unknown:

Offline Blackpool Rock

I get a headache so take a couple of paracetamol an hour before popping the bluey or at least at the same time, the headache also sort of feels like pressure build up in my head.
I also get the flushing of the face about 10 minutes after popping the pill, had a bit of heat burn the 1st few times taking it but not since.

I wouldn't say that I lose sensitivity however I can last a bit longer which is good for me as I used to struggle not to cum quickly sometimes so that's another win  :thumbsup:
All in all i'm happy to trade off a bit of a headache and flushed face for decent sex though the last few punts i've struggled a bit for some reason despite taking 50Mg last time instead of 25mg  :cry:

It sounds like 100Mg is perhaps too high a dose for you, try cutting a pill in half and taking 50Mg and reduce further if all's still fine, what I would say is that i've not noticed the headache being any worse when i've taken 50mg compared to 25mg

Offline JD1

They are all known side effects. It sounds like you are sensitive to it and 100mg is probably too strong - it generally the maximum prescription strength. Try taking a lower dose, speak to your doctor if that doesn’t help.

I’m jealous - I take 100mg to give me a boost some times and barely has any impact on me.

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Take tadafil daily. Works a treat and you can shag whenever you want. With viagra you have to plan etc

Offline Bdk78

 I started experiencing problems when I gave up smoking (gave up a few years back and didn't get hard for 3 months, started smoking and was ok again. Gave up again last year and same problem) so started using sildenafil. I get flushed face and blocked nose on 50mg. I also occasionally experienced the sensation that I'm not hard during oral or sex, but when I check I am. Takes a lot more effort to cum too, which I see as a bonus  :D

Offline lillythesavage

Not strictly on topic, read somewhere a Botox jab does the trick, even on those tablets have failed for, helps open a valve for blood flow  :hi:

A little prick in the little prick  :lol:

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One from more than 5 years ago.

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Not strictly on topic, read somewhere a Botox jab does the trick, even on those tablets have failed for, helps open a valve for blood flow  :hi:

A little prick in the little prick  :lol:

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One from more than 5 years ago.

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One for the BDSM fans methinks.
I got that nervous twitch feeling in my balls just reading that  :scare:


Offline lillythesavage

One for the BDSM fans methinks.
I got that nervous twitch feeling in my balls just reading that  :scare:


It is just a little prick  :lol:, admit so did I  :D

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if sildenafil is giving problems try tadalafil

in most men the side effects are much reduced

Offline Freddybigstuff1983

Ive been using both on/off for a few years.  Not because I struggle to get it up, purely to get me back up for the second pop in a short period.

50mg sildenafil, slight headache, blocked nose.  Hard for 4 hrs
On longer weekend sessions (with fuck buddies, cant afford prozzy overnight rates !) I pop tadalafil, 2 days, not quite so hard but good enough.  No side effects

Was running out of Sildenafil last week so cut one in half.  Still lasted 4hrs, still jsut as hard.  No headache - Gonna go with the 25mg from now on

Offline Clitheroelad

if sildenafil is giving problems try tadalafil

in most men the side effects are much reduced

This.

Offline Home Alone

if sildenafil is giving problems try tadalafil

in most men the side effects are much reduced

And - in my case, at least ‐ Tadalafil still has me hard enough the morning after a punt at least to wonder if I could afford punting on consecutive days.

Offline JustaPunter

Surprised you've been prescribed 100mg, I was under the impression the normal prescription does is 50mg.   :unknown:

100mg is a standard dosage.

Though like any prescription medication a Doctor would normally start with the lowest possible dose and then increase until the desired effect is achieved

Offline JustaPunter

take 100mg
throbbing head
face on fire
but my main concern is my dick, it stays rock hard to touch with my hand... but doesn't feel super hard when having OWO or sex etc..maybe numbness?
aswell my glans reduce significantly regarding sensitivity, can't feel anything and I can't cum

Most of those side effects are listed in the leaflet, without rereading it they potentially all are.

Either reduce the dosage or suggest to your GP you try something else.

Cialis, Levitra or Spedra might be better.

If you have bought online from somebody like Superdrug then consider taking 25mg or 50mg and seeing how the side effects compare.

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100mg is a standard dosage.

Though like any prescription medication a Doctor would normally start with the lowest possible dose and then increase until the desired effect is achieved
It's an available dose, the standard prescription dose is 50mg. Viagra connect only comes in 50mg.


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Offline JustaPunter

It's an available dose, the standard prescription dose is 50mg. Viagra connect only comes in 50mg.


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There are three standard dosages of Viagra.

100mg 50 mg and 25 mg

That’s just a fact.

50 mg is not the standard dose, it may be the most commonly prescribed but that is irrelevant.

If they weren’t standard doses then you wouldn’t be able to get them prescribed in that strength, it’s really that simple.

BNF lists all the standards dosages on Medication.

Your image isn’t really relevant

As I never mentioned Viagra Connect, if I had I would have said the standard dose of VC is 50mg.

But VC is a different situation and is a product available over the counter at a Pharmacy without going via a Doctor.


These are the standard dosages of Viagra as listed by Superdrug.



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There are three standard dosages of Viagra.

100mg 50 mg and 25 mg

That’s just a fact.

50 mg is not the standard dose, it may be the most commonly prescribed but that is irrelevant.

If they weren’t standard doses then you wouldn’t be able to get them prescribed in that strength, it’s really that simple.

BNF lists all the standards dosages on Medication.

Your image isn’t really relevant

As I never mentioned Viagra Connect, if I had I would have said the standard dose of VC is 50mg.

But VC is a different situation and is a product available over the counter at a Pharmacy without going via a Doctor.


These are the standard dosages of Viagra as listed by Superdrug.
Try reading what I said, 50mg is the standard prescription dose. Go to your doctors and they will prescribe 50mg, go to Asda and they will prescribe 50mg.

As with any drug the standard dose can be adjusted up or down according to need.

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That's why I said I was surprised horsa had been prescribed 100mg
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And do check with a medical professional that there are no contraindications with ANY other drug you take, or may take!!!

Offline JustaPunter

Try reading what I said, 50mg is the standard prescription dose. Go to your doctors and they will prescribe 50mg, go to Asda and they will prescribe 50mg.

As with any drug the standard dose can be adjusted up or down according to need.

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That's why I said I was surprised horsa had been prescribed 100mg

Not sure why you want to keep going about this.

Just because 50mg is the most common dosage doesn’t mean it is a standard dosage.

The standard dosages are 25mg, 50mg and 100mg.

If they weren’t they wouldn’t produce Viagra in 25mg, 50mg and 100mg.

And using an over the counter version of Viagra that is only available in a single dosage is not the big win you think it is.

Maybe have a read of BNF.

They list the standards dosages of all medications in there.

Just because half those being prescribed Viagra are on 50mg doesn’t change the facts.

And quoting NHS information designed to “inform” those with zero medical knowledge is not really relevant.

As I said already a Doctor will usually start with the lowest dosage possible to assess efficacy then increase till the desired effect is achieved, with the lowest level of side effects
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Offline Doc Holliday

There are three standard dosages of Viagra.

100mg 50 mg and 25 mg

That’s just a fact.


Your definitions are incorrect. There is no real definition of 'standard' in this context. 100, 50 and 25 mg are the available manufactured tablet strengths. A dose is then defined as how much of that drug is prescribed to be taken singly. A dosage is the dose of that drug related to a specific time scale.

If the prescribed dose of Sildenafil is 50 mg then the dosage is 50mg once a day. That could be achieved by taking a single tablet of 50mg strength or two 25mg tablets or half a 100 mg tablet.

The recommended starting dose for Sildenafil is 50 mg which can then adjusted upwards or downwards. Starting with the smallest dose and working upwards is not normal practice for most medications. Recommended starting dosages are followed which may be adjusted by age and body weight.

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Not sure why you want to keep going about this.
One question doc, would you be surprised if a doctor prescribed a dose of 100mg of Sildenafil as a starting point.

You seem to be blaming me for something I have not done.

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All this started because I said to horsa I was surprised he'd been prescribed 100mg.   
 
« Last Edit: December 18, 2022, 11:13:27 pm by daviemac »

Offline lillythesavage

One question doc, would you be surprised if a doctor prescribed a dose of 100mg of Sildenafil as a starting point.

You seem to be blaming me for something I have not done.

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All this started because I said to horsa I was surprised he'd been prescribed 100mg.   
 


I get it on prescription and never been prescribed anything but 100mg from day 1 and just taken it, reading this I may try reducing it by cutting in half, but I cannot say I have had the side effects of others, a little flushing on an empty belly, no headaches, but a stonking hard on if I was fancy a reliving wank next day  :lol:.

I assumed the connect stuff was 50mg to make it legal to sell and 100 was normal  :unknown:.

Live and learn.

Offline Doc Holliday

One question doc, would you be surprised if a doctor prescribed a dose of 100mg of Sildenafil as a starting point.

You seem to be blaming me for something I have not done.


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All this started because I said to horsa I was surprised he'd been prescribed 100mg.   
 

Not sure what you mean by me blaming you? I was agreeing with you.

I would certainly be 'disappointed' if a GP didn’t follow the correct prescribing guidelines (as below) and I’m confident the majority do, but sadly I wouldn’t be surprised if some didn’t and perhaps Lilly is an example?

In relation to your initial reply to Horsa I took it that you were maybe hinting he hadn’t actually been prescribed it by a doctor, but had self medicated and that was my thought process also.

There will be a great many members who have self medicated, especially those who first tried ED meds some years ago. The most economical tablet strength to purchase on the internet is 100mg and then split it accordingly and this is then more likely to result in people deciding to take 100mg  “to be on the safe side and avoid disappointment” when they don’t really need it as they are using it ‘recreationally’ without really having true ED.

I have largely given up contributing to these threads, but did so as I felt Justapunter was repeatedly posting with authority on the subject, when he clearly is not.

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Not sure what you mean by me blaming you? I was agreeing with you.

I would certainly be 'disappointed' if a GP didn’t follow the correct prescribing guidelines (as below) and I’m confident the majority do, but sadly I wouldn’t be surprised if some didn’t and perhaps Lilly is an example?

In relation to your initial reply to Horsa I took it that you were maybe hinting he hadn’t actually been prescribed it by a doctor, but had self medicated and that was my thought process also.

There will be a great many members who have self medicated, especially those who first tried ED meds some years ago. The most economical tablet strength to purchase on the internet is 100mg and then split it accordingly and this is then more likely to result in people deciding to take 100mg  “to be on the safe side and avoid disappointment” when they don’t really need it as they are using it ‘recreationally’ without really having true ED.

I have largely given up contributing to these threads, but did so as I felt Justapunter was repeatedly posting with authority on the subject, when he clearly is not.

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I thought that comment was aimed at Justapunter not you Doc but it was how the reply was laid out that perhaps made it look like you  :unknown:

I've only just started getting ED meds about 6 months ago from Numan and they recommended 50mg as a starting point which i'm sure will be the norm for most people.
After 1st test driving one at home on my own I was well impressed and had a few really decent punts with the stuff then started cutting the pills in half and didn't seem to have any performance drop off just taking 25mg  :thumbsup:

All of a sudden about 4 punts ago and with a top girl i'd seen a few days before and been rock solid I struggled a bit and on a recent punt I went back to 50mg just in case but still struggled a bit

I'm wondering if it's possible that it stops working as well over time if you keep taking it or whether it's due to a whole range of other factors  :unknown: Some of these punts have been a couple of hours after a full gym session when i'm starting to get tired and hungry.
The problem now is that performance anxiety is back which I know only makes things worse  :dash:
Anyway i'm off punting for a week or two over Xmas as visiting family and friends so hopefully back to normal when I return, perhaps I just need a break from it to recharge the batteries  :unknown:

Incidentally I just got my 2nd order a couple of weeks ago and went for the 20 x 50mg option again as it works out more cost effective especially if you can cut them in half, I also had something like a 40% or 50% black Friday discount as I hadn't ordered for about 5 or 6 months (PS they don't know i'm a white guy but i'm keeping quiet  :rolleyes:)
Anyway when I opened the box I had 5 strips of 4 tablets but when I looked they seemed different and the foil artwork has changed however on closer inspection they have sent me 2 strips of 50mg which is correct and 3 strips of 100mg which is the wrong dose.

It's not the wrong foil as the tablets are bigger but it's pretty poor control of medicines on their part, i've worked in the pharma industry years ago and i'm guessing this could potentially trigger a stock recall if I reported it

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Yep, daviemac was having a go at JustAPunter.   Like daviemac, I'd be surprised if any doctor prescribed 100mg just off the bat.  I've been taking 50mg and it does the job.  As the others have said, maybe try switching tablets, or go for the lower dosage. 

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Not sure what you mean by me blaming you? I was agreeing with you.

I would certainly be 'disappointed' if a GP didn’t follow the correct prescribing guidelines (as below) and I’m confident the majority do, but sadly I wouldn’t be surprised if some didn’t and perhaps Lilly is an example?

In relation to your initial reply to Horsa I took it that you were maybe hinting he hadn’t actually been prescribed it by a doctor, but had self medicated and that was my thought process also.

There will be a great many members who have self medicated, especially those who first tried ED meds some years ago. The most economical tablet strength to purchase on the internet is 100mg and then split it accordingly and this is then more likely to result in people deciding to take 100mg  “to be on the safe side and avoid disappointment” when they don’t really need it as they are using it ‘recreationally’ without really having true ED.

I have largely given up contributing to these threads, but did so as I felt Justapunter was repeatedly posting with authority on the subject, when he clearly is not.

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With Horsa it was a bit of both, I am genuinely surprised that any GP or other doctor would prescribe 100mg as a first dose as the NHS guidelines are 50mg. I do suspect that Horsa is self medicating and hasn't actually been prescribed anything, I had hoped he would have come back to the thread and confirmed either way, not the case though.

As far as Justapunter is concerned all I have ever said is that according to the NHS guidelines 50mg is the standard recommended dose and I'm surprised a doctor would go against those guidelines prescribe 100mg, possibly he is misunderstanding that.

Telling someone like the OP who is taking 100mg but is suffering from quite bad side effects that 100mg is a standard dose is misleading, far better stick to NHS guidelines that he might not be aware of.

I presume when buying it online and you fill the form in and they issue a 'prescription' they don't stipulate the strength to purchase, unlike a visit to a doctor who will stipulate the tablet strength on the prescription.



Offline Home Alone

Fwiw, when my GP told me 16 years ago that I qualified for 4 Viagra every 4 weeks, she started me off on 25 mg and told me to come back & see her if they weren't doing the trick.

Which I did because their effect was limited. She moved me onto 50 mg, with the same instruction as before. And that was how I ended up on 100 mg of Viagra.

Until, as I grew older - about 10 years after my GP had first prescribed the 25 mg tablets - their effect became limited, too. I went back to the Health Centre and saw one of the Trainee GPs who regularly do placements there. She went back to first principles by consulting the Formulary and discovered Tadalafil (Cialis) for me. My gratitude continues to this day!
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I use Viagra Connect and as has been mentioned here I think they only come in 50mg, I could be mistaken but I certainly have only ever had those. I cut them in half and find that they work just as good. I also take them with paracetamol which helps with the side effects, usually I get a bit of pressure in my head and my eyes but nothing major.

On a 30 min punt I don't bother with them, it's only if I'm doing a longer punt and looking to go again for round 2 as I'll need a bit of help. Getting it rock hard the second time is easy then but being able to pop again is another challenge

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Offline JD1

Regarding doses and self medicating, with the rise of online doctor services and pharmacies you can actually get 100mg very easily on prescription. You select the dose you want, fill in the online survey, a doctor reviews it and issues the prescription, then you get the pills in the post. I have ordered 100mg from several sources using this approach, including from high street names, and none have suggested a lower dose.

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Regarding doses and self medicating, with the rise of online doctor services and pharmacies you can actually get 100mg very easily on prescription. You select the dose you want, fill in the online survey, a doctor reviews it and issues the prescription, then you get the pills in the post. I have ordered 100mg from several sources using this approach, including from high street names, and none have suggested a lower dose.
That is not the same a visiting a doctor who has access to your medical records and them issuing a prescription, anything can be put on the online form or in a pharmacy such as Asda.

If I told the truth to an online pharmacy they say no chance, they won't prescribe any, but like I said I can put anything they want to hear and there's no checks done, then I can buy any strength I like, they are in it to make money, not look after the patients welfare.

However I don't do that, I went to my doctors, she carried out several blood tests to eliminate any medical reason, looked at my medical record and prescribed the NHS recommended dose of 50mg once per day.

In order to point the OP in the right direction it would be handy to know if he's taking 100mg after being examined by a doctor or if he's just bought them online off his own bat  and is taking that dose because that's what he was ably to buy.

There's a world of difference between self medicating and being supervised by a medical professional and having regular reviews of any medication you are taking.


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Yeah for sure - you’re not getting any medical advice and they don’t even have access to your medical records when using these online services. I have been prescribed it in person before, but was surprised how easy it is to get online. I just do it that way now for convenience and you can also get some bargains - I recently purchased 64x 100mg tablets for £40.

Offline Marmalade

Since everyone’s getting so picky about definitions there’s a distance between dose (a single occurrence) and dosage (treatment regimen, such as not taking more than once a day or taking daily or three times a week).

What people are meaning by a standard dose is a default amount. Standard medical practice all other things being equal starts at the minimum dose likely to be effective. This minimises the possibility of side effects. If you are prescribed 50mg (or low dose of anything when you want a higher dose), go back to the doctor after about three weeks and say it has some effect but could do with being stronger. Or ‘confess’ that you’ve ‘taken two’ on occasion.

Many meds need a trial period. One or two days isn’t enough. With viagra there might be other variables. (Even if you think otherwise, that is a standard good procedure assumption the doctor makes). Don’t say it has no effect (if it has no effect at all, an increased dose isn’t likely to be much better). These are like a rule book to get what you want.

You’re less likely to get tadalafil. If that’s what you want, make it seem like the doctor’s idea. ‘They seem to work but the timing is so unreliable it’s hard to rely on them’ blah blah blah. ‘Is there anything else you can recommend?’ This gives you a fallback if the GP says no, but also gives a necessary excuse if the GP is willing in principle to prescribe tadalafil.

The above works for most drugs.
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