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Author Topic: Are we getting less tolerant of those who don't review?  (Read 5075 times)

Offline Turtle Z

I've picked up a definite vibe of late that that a lot of punters are openly calling out those punters who benefit from these boards but don't review; especially the twats who chip in after a  punter posts a negative review to say they'd seen her weeks earlier and also thought she was shit!  :dash:

Offline HighlyMotivated

We can moan about it all we like, they're not going to post any reviews. I've been keeping one or two TOFTT gems secret though because of this but happy to review Negatives and Positives of previously reviewed girls

vw

  • Guest
Well those comments on negatives piss many off from what i see, more so with people that have been members for a while, a new person joining in the last month not so as they are still finding their feet.

Think we are better at spotting genuine punter in need of a nudge in the right direction, like this guy the other day.  From non punter to punting MI within a few days.

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=97534.0


Not sure if you saw this post

Basically banned for being an idiot, all kicked off when he moaned at being moaned about.

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=95118.msg1146599#msg1146599


Type_O_Negative

  • Guest
This subject comes back like a boomerang. UKP members know the rules - there is no compulsion to write reviews. So some members do them, some members do not. It's very hard to find a perfect solution in this case - to make everyone happy.

Offline Turtle Z

This subject comes back like a boomerang. UKP members know the rules - there is no compulsion to write reviews. So some members do them, some members do not. It's very hard to find a perfect solution in this case - to make everyone happy.

You seem to have missed the point, we know the rules, the question is are members getting less tolerant.

Offline OakTree

I can tolerate people who don't or only rarely review if on the other they give valuable info.

It's the ones that don't review and give nothing back but just put posts asking if we've seen this or that girl. Or even worse want us to find them their ideal punt for the weekend.

Offline Rockhead

There are signs of that. Personally I don't mind non-reviewers, but I do appreciate those who make the effort. Some people just aren't confident in their writing style I guess, or have other reasons for keeping quiet. Some are just lazy of course  :D

random task

  • Guest
Who cares.

The more punters = more girls.

More popular the girl = more likely they'll stay in the game

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As for discussion on here - I take everything with a pinch of salt, and only take people seriously who have at least done a couple of reviews and who contribute so I can gauge their style.

There are some people on here who have similar tastes, others are completely different.

To be honest it's a bit of entertainment whilst sitting in the office pretending to work.

vw

  • Guest
Who cares.

The more punters = more girls.

More popular the girl = more likely they'll stay in the game

Do you have stats for that ?

Some would say the opposite

More punters = More waiting around in queues.

More popular = More burnout and quicker to retire !

In reality depends on the individual prossie

random task

  • Guest
Do you have stats for that ?

Some would say the opposite

More punters = More waiting around in queues.

More popular = More burnout and quicker to retire !

In reality depends on the individual prossie

LOL.

Anecdotal..

Just saw a girl who was quiet for 2 days but was very busy when reviewed here for a while.

She is thinking of heading home.

It's market forces though isn't it? If there is less business around, they'll go elsewhere.

Anything that normalises escort use and promotes it - is good for all punters surely? I'm sure this site has helped many take the plunge or normalised the behaviour to keep at it...or been a sounding board when thinking of quitting etc

« Last Edit: May 24, 2016, 01:38:06 pm by random task »

vw

  • Guest
LOL.

Anecdotal..

Just saw a girl who was quiet for 2 days but was very busy when reviewed here for a while.

She is thinking of heading home.

It's market forces though isn't it? If there is less business arojnd, they'll go elsewhere.

Anything that normalises escort use and promotes it - is good for all punters surely?

To many factors to say yes or no, there is no definitive answer.

All I know is as soon as many I have reviewed become more difficult for me to book.  Have many i don't review as would be counter productive for me, some are difficult enough already without a good review !

This site does not promote normalisation IMO.  Many become less normal and more experimental potentially putting new ones off with some of the reviews !
« Last Edit: May 24, 2016, 01:41:01 pm by vw »

Offline OakTree

To many factors to say yes or no, there is no definitive answer.

All I know is as soon as many I have reviewed become more difficult for me to book.  Have many i don't review as would be counter productive for me, some are difficult enough already without a good review !

This site does not promote normalisation IMO.  Many become less normal and more experimental potentially putting new ones off with some of the reviews !


Unfortunately one thing you can be certain of is a great many of those bookings are probably taken up by non reviewers/contributors.

Offline 2chunky2

I've had a ton of useful info off this site and it is great resource.  My take is it's only fair to contribute to it and keep it going.

I'm new to this site and this hobby so I've held back a little so far as I don't necessarily know what's good etc. and I don't want to accidentally write a load of useless shite.

I'm just in the afterglow of a rather good punt  :dance: :dance: :dance: (to the point I can hardly type properly :) ) but will post a review of that tomorrow (no feedback on here and was a good punt so only fair) and possibly a couple of others from earlier in the year.

Rod trotter

  • Guest
Simple answer yes

Me more so, its a punters site to help punters and boils my piss when someone pipes up but never reviews.

Its being noticed yes but as has been said at times i have to suck it up.

Ben4454

  • Guest
I think the more people complain the more these guys will not want to review. Negativity has never been a great motivator. I think we should be glad these guys are here and glad to give them information on their next punt. If they wish to review and I am sure they will want to give back in their own time. I honestly would hate to see some kind of anti-review hate squad on punters. I honestly believe everyone will give back in their own time.

There are some punters who contribute to the board who do not review but contribute indirectly like offering members with advice/trip reports and waging in when a working girl tries to take the piss out of the board members. Personally I think everyone plays a great part in making this site great. Hats off to the admin team and nick.  :hi:
« Last Edit: May 24, 2016, 02:56:11 pm by Ben4454 »

tonibell99

  • Guest
I'm don't mind whether members write reviews or not as long as they contribute in some way, giving advice or info on girls they have seen. I've only written 3 reviews myself but have hopefully given my opinion & also some advice on other girls I have punted with.

What I am less tolerant of is members with thousands of posts who never give any advice on punting, in fact you would never know if they have ever punted themselves. This is a punting forum after all.
I thought we were all her to help each other  :hi:

Offline smiths

I've picked up a definite vibe of late that that a lot of punters are openly calling out those punters who benefit from these boards but don't review; especially the twats who chip in after a  punter posts a negative review to say they'd seen her weeks earlier and also thought she was shit!  :dash:

Its up to a punter if he does a review or not but I find it hard to see a reason apart from the punter being so naïve and/or stupid the WG knows his real details that a negative review wouldn't be done on a bad WG to inform other punters on here. Yes it can be annoying to read a negative review and see another punter post she was the same with me yet that punter hadn't done a review which might of saved punters time and money.

But am not less tolerant, I am the same as I was before. UKP works well in my view and long may it continue.

Offline smiths

Do you have stats for that ?

Some would say the opposite

More punters = More waiting around in queues.

More popular = More burnout and quicker to retire !

In reality depends on the individual prossie

In my experience of posting on punting forums for years this is what happens more often than not and some WGs also raise their prices to cash in while they can, great for them, bad for me, and particularly forum darlings, Adele4u has whacked her prices up £40 an hour recently off the back of many good reviews on here.

A punter if he is bothered has to decide whether to do a positive review straight away and risk the above happening, have his fill of the WG first as I do sometimes, or not do positive reviews at all.

Offline Horizontal pleasures

Why not have a number of posts beyond which a punter must post a review to survive on here; make it generous like a punt with a review = 1000 posts? 100 posts would be mean but any limit is arbitrary.

random task

  • Guest
My view is I want to be taken seriously on here, so I can have a useful conversation with other punters who share my tastes.

Im not going to do that by contributing nothing, making things up, or posting lots of rubbish.

Not my site - if it was I'd continue to run it the way it is, except I'd only allow access to the last 3 months review by doing at least 3 TOFTT reviews off a daily new girl list.

A bit like some girls won't see punters with no a-work feedback.

LL

  • Guest
I've picked up a definite vibe of late that that a lot of punters are openly calling out those punters who benefit from these boards but don't review; especially the twats who chip in after a  punter posts a negative review to say they'd seen her weeks earlier and also thought she was shit!  :dash:
I've not picked up on that. Is it possible that it's pissing you off at the moment so you're more tuned in to read similar views?
A bit like when you get a different car then realise how many of that same model car there are on the road - which you'd not really noticed before.

random task

  • Guest
Me again, long train commute...nothing better to do.

If this site closed, I'd go back to what I did before and still base all my bookings on - my own personal appraisal of a profile/agency/conversation through a-work or website.

When I started I used backpage in local newspaper - or website and did perfectly fine.

The benefit of this site for me is the negative reviews and warnings - but no one seems to care about those...as much as talking up their latest awe-inspiring encounter...


Offline Wheelz77

Why not have a number of posts beyond which a punter must post a review to survive on here; make it generous like a punt with a review = 1000 posts? 100 posts would be mean but any limit is arbitrary.

+1 
How about 10k posts without a single review or even a helpful suggestion? Some forum users just take the piss.

slow and low

  • Guest
Reviews always worthwhile, neutral or negative more so. 

Offline Sparta Prada

I haven't seen the general mood turning against non-reviewers.

I don't mind people who don't review. After all, this site is about sharing our experiences so as much as I put up reviews for others to read, I also read other people's reviews to hopefully find someone who would not normally be on my radar.

For the guys who don't review, I'm in two minds about this. I'm sure there are guys who wish to review but may get scared off by the savaging they have seen first time reviewers get.


Offline claretandblue

Personally I would say I am less tolerant now yes ,just a consequence of being on here a while, the freeloaders and pisstakers get more annoying  :thumbsdown:

I couldn't honestly say I have noticed a general shifting in people's reactions though

Offline smiths

Me again, long train commute...nothing better to do.

If this site closed, I'd go back to what I did before and still base all my bookings on - my own personal appraisal of a profile/agency/conversation through a-work or website.

When I started I used backpage in local newspaper - or website and did perfectly fine.

The benefit of this site for me is the negative reviews and warnings - but no one seems to care about those...as much as talking up their latest awe-inspiring encounter...

Absolute bollocks, I certainly care about doing and reading others negative reviews, and most certainly don't go on about only my positive reviews, I suggest you get down to specsavers if you think no one on here cares. :rolleyes:

random task

  • Guest
Absolute bollocks, I certainly care about doing and reading others negative reviews, and most certainly don't go on about only my positive reviews, I suggest you get down to specsavers if you think no one on here cares. :rolleyes:

I review as  positive a girl who has been reviewed multiple times before - more than 1000 views - multiple comments.

I TOFTT and post a negative of a girl who has been reviewed once - less than 300 views - no comments

I read reviews about adel4u, Emily creme brulee, khloe sexy girl etc - over 80+ reviews for some girls...

Same stuff - always someone who reads a positive review here, then visits and writes another positive review.

What is the point in a girl being reviewed 80+ times?

The negative reviews quickly disappear down the list as there is another review of adele4u, ecb, khloe sexy girl etc - girls i will never punt as it's painfully obvious to me the new punters pick the best reviewed punt and then gush about their amazing experience....perpetuating positive reviews ad infinitum of their out-of-this-world girlfriend experience...

With no cim, swallow, dfk etc....

« Last Edit: May 24, 2016, 08:15:39 pm by random task »

vw

  • Guest
I review as  positive a girl who has been reviewed multiple times before - more than 1000 views. Multiple comments

I post a negative of a girl who has been reviewed once - less than 300 views. No commenrs

I read reviews about adel4u, Emily creme brulee, khloe sexy girl etc - over 80+ reviews for some girls...

Same stuff - always someone who reads a positive review here, then visits and writes another positive review.

What is the point in a girl being reviewed 80+ times?

The negative reviews quickly disappear down the list as there is another review or adele4u, ecb, khloe sexy girl etc - girls i will never punt as it's painfully obvious to me the new punters pick the best reviewed punt and then gush about their amazing experience....perpetuating positive reviews ad infinitum.

With no cim, dfk etc....

Up to people what they post really!

People generally are looking for a good punt so are drawn to what others are doing and read positives more.

expect negatives are read more by people searching by the profile number rather than general browsing.

One of my negatives took 9 moths to get a comment !  Didn't bother me one bit, shocked me to see it did !

Exceptions are if the cavalry arrive to defend a negative they get many more views  Look at this one 10535 views and negative.

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=73827.0
« Last Edit: May 24, 2016, 08:21:07 pm by vw »

Offline smiths

I review as  positive a girl who has been reviewed multiple times before - more than 1000 views - multiple comments.

I TOFTT and post a negative of a girl who has been reviewed once - less than 300 views - no comments

I read reviews about adel4u, Emily creme brulee, khloe sexy girl etc - over 80+ reviews for some girls...

Same stuff - always someone who reads a positive review here, then visits and writes another positive review.

What is the point in a girl being reviewed 80+ times?

The negative reviews quickly disappear down the list as there is another review of adele4u, ecb, khloe sexy girl etc - girls i will never punt as it's painfully obvious to me the new punters pick the best reviewed punt and then gush about their amazing experience....perpetuating positive reviews ad infinitum of their out-of-this-world girlfriend experience...

With no cim, swallow, dfk etc....

Its up to punters who they punt with and review on here, always has been and hopefully always will be. 300 views of a negative review COULD of helped many many punters who don't post on the thread. The point is its a review from a different punter and ALL genuine reviews, good, bad or neutral are welcome by me.

If your that bothered you can always fuck off, jeez a member a very short period of time and already moaning, not a good sign in my experience. :rolleyes:

mrhappypants

  • Guest
Technical point; is there is a way to disable/disguise links on the page for readers who are not logged in?  I think this would encourage readers to log in and increase admin's purchase on those who do not review.

Dave

bod666

  • Guest
I think I'm getting less tolerant of the freeloaders. Particularly the idiots who post stupid questions.

I can understand that there are probably a good chunk of members who live vicariously through the rest of us (& our reviews).

Agree with the comments that the +1 guys who add to a negative review that they saw the same girl week before and they were shit are the lowest of the low. If you've got the balls to go shag a stranger for money then you can write a negative review.

For me part of the pleasure of punting is sharing the experience on here afterwards - particularly if it was a bad one.

Offline Alvin

To be honest I haven't done many reviews, mainly because I tend to see a couple of girls that are already well reviewed on here.  I have also just broken my computer so having to use a tablet which is a nightmare for doing links.  I have a couple of reviews that I will upload most likely to be at the weekend. 

random task

  • Guest
Lol.

Perhaps it's the fact that I've been here for 5 minutes, done a few reviews and already being told to "fuck off" that may discourage others from reviewing....Let alone tell the truth in a review or put up the negatives/neutrals that are importnat to avoid issues or at least be fore-warned when booking...so can be mitigated.

The point I'm trying to make is that reviews are only useful if they add value....

What value is added by the 88th review of adele4u talking about the exact same services - when there is a boat load of new unreviewed girls everyday.

It's not my site, apologies if I've offended anyone - just trying to join in 😃
« Last Edit: May 24, 2016, 08:55:29 pm by random task »

vw

  • Guest
Lol.

Perhaps it's the fact that I've been here for 5 minutes, done a few reviews and already being told to "fuck off" that may discourage others from reviewing.

The point I'm trying to make is that reviews are only useful if they add value....

What value is added by the 88th review of adele4u talking about the exact same services - when there is a boat load of new unreviewed girls everyday.

It's not my site, apologies if I've offended anyone - just trying to join in 😃

the value it adds is that punter may not have reviewed before, he subsequently gets a negative and has more credibility.  First time/first post negatives are often treated with more suspicion than by someone with a history !

random task

  • Guest
Jesus Christ, okay I guess u you can't please everyone and I'm losing the debate.

I think I'm going to spend my time looking for the next punt and will.....post a review!

vw

  • Guest
Jesus Christ, okay I guess u you can't please everyone and I'm losing the debate.

I think I'm going to spend my time looking for the next punt and will.....post a review!

Hope its a good one !   :drinks:

Offline smiths

Lol.

Perhaps it's the fact that I've been here for 5 minutes, done a few reviews and already being told to "fuck off" that may discourage others from reviewing....Let alone tell the truth in a review or put up the negatives/neutrals that are importnat to avoid issues or at least be fore-warned when booking...so can be mitigated.

The point I'm trying to make is that reviews are only useful if they add value....

What value is added by the 88th review of adele4u talking about the exact same services - when there is a boat load of new unreviewed girls everyday.

It's not my site, apologies if I've offended anyone - just trying to join in 😃

Yes well if you or anyone posts bollocks as I see it I will say so newbie or not. :rolleyes: ALL genuine reviews add value in my view, up to you that you don't agree.

vw

  • Guest
Yes well if you or anyone posts bollocks as I see it I will say so newbie or not. :rolleyes: ALL genuine reviews add value in my view, up to you that you don't agree.

See he posted a 2 line review of adele and got forum executed !

Offline smiths

See he posted a 2 line review of adele and got forum executed !

Yes I read the review, clearly trolling. :thumbsdown:

Offline Steely Dan

To the OPs question, I don't think we are getting less tolerant.  This place has always been tough.  OK I have not been here that long myself, but the history is there to read.  The tough tone of UKP give it edge.  Makes it OK to challenge WKs or scumbags who post false negatives.  Non reviewers are no more nor less welcome than in the past.  The only non reviewers that are banned are banned for the same reasons as reviewers.  I think non reviewers do get a tougher time (just like always) since it is hard to really know they are punters.  I find it very easy to forgive strong words from someone who has TOFTT to help me, or helped me avoid a baddy.

In terms of negatives, I may not read them today.  But in 2 months time, I might put spot her on AW, put in her number, and get saved.  So yeah, positives I read for ideas, maybe the same week written.  Negatives I might only read later. But the negatives are helpful.

And saying (or thinking) that the girls with multiple positives are not really good they are just ordinary and on some cycle of positive rating ... I say no way.  Actually it is quite disrespectful to those (like me ) who have seen some 'board darlings' to suggest that my review is anything other than my experience. Ok, almost all have a bad day.  But really, I think they get good ratings from so many different and hard to please punters for the reason that they are good at their job.

Offline cueball


Perhaps it's the fact that I've been here for 5 minutes, done a few reviews and already being told to "fuck off" that may discourage others from reviewing....

Bye then

Another one who wants his fuckin ego stroking, do these fuckers not get it. It's a forum full of grown men, it's not a bloody knitting forum.

Offline smiths

Bye then

Another one who wants his fuckin ego stroking, do these fuckers not get it. It's a forum full of grown men, it's not a bloody knitting forum.

Was also multi nicking I see as they were also SP1990, well dodgy. :thumbsdown:

Offline punk

Getting too many Trolls and other lazy idiots asking about recommendations with a couple of previous posts and 0 reviews.

There seem to be a whole gang of them.

Offline cueball

Was also multi nicking I see as they were also SP1990, well dodgy. :thumbsdown:

Yep and I've no doubt he'll be back

OldAdmin

  • Guest
Goes to show how much respect he has for the review system to mis-use it like that.

The likes of him think I would be issuing him a warning, play PM ping-pong, waste my time and effort dealing with him, he'd get bitter and spend the next months causing trouble on the forum, issue more warnings and more PM ping-pong, before getting banned for good.
No thanks, I'll ban you now.

Arley Hall

  • Guest
For me - attitude is everything. If a person is polite and apparently well-meaning then I don't care whether they've written any reviews or not. I will answer their questions (if I can) and ignore their questions if I can't. It doesn't even bother me if it eventually turns out that they're not entirely serious, shall we say. The answers I gave may have been useful to another member who was serious. I agree that the most annoying thing they could do would be to admit to having seen a negative girl just after I'd suffered from her negativity. But, even then, their contribution would be useful to other punters since it would reinforce my bad review.

If a person is rude, aggressive, angry, bullying etc then it's an entirely different matter. Not even a 1000 reviews will redeem them in my eyes - though I might grudgingly admit that they're performing a useful service, if my arm was twisted!

Offline RedKettle

I have no tolerance of those that have been members for a while and pipe up with comments like "yes she was shit when I saw her last month!"  I think we have got more aware of that issue.

For relatively new members I think it is good to encourage and educate in a friendly manner, and I have seen that on several occasions on EM.  I do think we sometimes do give new reviewers too difficult a time, some join up full of enthusiasm and perhaps post a poor review immediately out of ignorance of the style and ethos.

Generally I agree that the feeling across the forum is becoming less tolerant to no reviews - but as others have said there is no requirement to review and we should make those that do feel very welcome!  It is good to put something back.

Offline shaunogg

I must admit to self filtering content.
If its a forum post and the comments are from people with no reviews then i just think ' tosser' and move on.
I have been guilty of baiting trolls, but i try to only ever bait them rather than give an answer.
As for reviews, i tend to read one then look at the other reviews the member has done, for a bit of flavour about how much credit i give to their review.

Offline Horizontal pleasures

I have no tolerance of those that have been members for a while ....
+1
and never write reviews while posting hundreds or more than a thousand comments.