Would You Class Rubbing Bare Cock On her Clit As BB?

[CoolTiger]

I remember coming across this profile a few years ago and asking this on a different forum.

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Would you class it as a the WG providing BB?

If asked, would you take up on the offer?

Would any punters admit to to doing this whilst punting?

[Happyjose]

From a risk perspective it's 100% BB. For those that seek that service, probably not. I imagine for them it's balls deep or nothing.

Never for me. Had a few WG's get too close when on top - typically after giving oral and moving up to FK - and always insist on getting rubbered up.

[CBPaul]

I suppose technically you could pick up the same nasties as unprotected penetrative sex but at a lower risk though. For that reason perhaps it should be considered a bareback activity.

I did see some profiles about last year which had bareback on the likes list but a few lines in the blurb that said only rubbing was allowed bb, sex had to be covered but you could cum over the outside of her pussy.

I've had a few prossies rub themselves against my bare cock before popping the condom on - got close to going in but was really a controlled tease with no chance of unprotected sex.

[vorian]

I would have to say a lower risk form of BB but still BB,  I enjoy rubbing my cock all over the pussy before sex but always use a condom with lots and lots of lube.

[Rochdull lad]

I remember seeing External Link/Members Only when she was working under a different name 6 or 7 years ago.  During the session, she was on top and began providing this "speciality".

I was even more naive about punting then than I am now - in my limited experience at the time, no other WG had offered anything like that; and none has since.  I was surprised by, and worried about, it; but she assured me that because I hadn't been inside her, it'd be perfectly safe.  Later on, we had penetration which was, of course, covered.

Because I didn't go inside her with nothing on, I didn't think of it at the time as bareback; but if I'd known then what I know now, I'm sure I'd have gone for a check-up.

[potato]

I would class it as BB.  As well as the health risks there is also a pregnancy risk for those girls not taking other precautions  - due to the pre-cum being spread all over her bits which will then travel up her on the outside of the condom - together with any sti's the guy might have.  If you are the next customer then that's going to increase your exposure to risk as well..Makes you think twice about RO..

I had one girl try to roll the condom down the wrong way as it is so easy to do and then turn it over and re-roll it down the correct way. I told her to take it off and throw it away as that was bad practise - she didn't seem to understand and seemed more concerned about the cost of the condom...duh!

[MancSean]

I remember coming across this profile a few years ago and asking this on a different forum.

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Would you class it as a the WG providing BB?

If asked, would you take up on the offer?

Would any punters admit to to doing this whilst punting?

Just to let you know I have punted with this girl and after I rimmed her she actually offered full BB. I said no and ended the punt pretty promptly. Her feedback is hidden but if you read her field reports there are a few guys that say they have cum inside her with no protection. I only read this after visiting her. She is pure filth and I mean that in a negative sense of the word. It doesn't state BB on her profile and I equate that to her being a lying skank and would never visit again. I got checked out and was ok but for someone that would never entertain BB I was upset she offered it

[CoolTiger]

Just to let you know I have punted with this girl and after I rimmed her she actually offered full BB. I said no and ended the punt pretty promptly. Her feedback is hidden but if you read her field reports there are a few guys that say they have cum inside her with no protection. I only read this after visiting her. She is pure filth and I mean that in a negative sense of the word. It doesn't state BB on her profile and I equate that to her being a lying skank and would never visit again. I got checked out and was ok but for someone that would never entertain BB I was upset she offered it

I used her profile as an example (for the wording), as I did a few years ago, when I came across her profile. From what I recall, she was also known for conning customers (in the Hounslow / Southall Area), so you did well with your appt by not getting mugged, even though it was a disappointing one. AFAIR, that's why her FB is hidden

[MancSean]

Cheers CT I also remember she is a compulsive liar flat was a pigstye and I got a feeling she's a junkie. She was quite local to me and was a Sunday afternoon but would defo warn anyone off her

[webpunter]

I would have to say a lower risk form of BB but still BB,  I enjoy rubbing my cock all over the pussy before sex but always use a condom with lots and lots of lube.

Seems to be par for the course with some 'massage only' girls
Not so much on the clit - just a general sliding around
Maybe not the best thing to do - but very hard to resist
Deffo some small risk of an STI - but think the 'big one' is highly unlikely as this requires unprotected penetration.  And quite a lot of it i understand.  Unless you happen to be very unlucky
A few years ago had one stunning babe [who wouldn't do OWO but did do protected FS] straddle me & told me to lie very still.  Then proceeded to open her flaps & slide up & down the shaft for a few mins.  Made it very clear - even in broken english - 'not the tip'.  She looked down as she approached by bell-end each time & then looked at me on the way back down.  Felt absolutely awesome.  Was well horned up.   She rolled a condom on me with her mouth & then proceeded to ride me cowgirl.  Didn't last very long but as the big-hand was approaching the top of the clock then time was nearly up.  Was an ace time.  Nothing happened - maybe i was lucky.  Who knows ?

[wristjob]

A few months back I read about 3 reports in a day or 2 that had this mentioned. I was going to post the same question but forgot which reports they were.

Anyway yes, it's BB IMO and more risk than I would want to take but for what it's worth it's probably lower risk for the really bad STIs than it is for the less bad ones.

[socks]

I like to do the arse equivalent of tit wanking on girls who let me, with the inevitable rubbing of my bare cock against their arsehole. Any views as to where this sits in the heirarchy of risks? I've thought of it as lower than owo and pussy contact in the way described above, because of the reduced, if any, potential mixing of fluids.

[mattylondon]

I remember coming across this profile a few years ago and asking this on a different forum.
Would any punters admit to to doing this whilst punting?

Of course it's bareback but a punter has a choice. It's not like you have to let her do it. If a punter does, then he enjoys and likes the idea of fucking her bareback. He just doesn't want to admit it.

I'll admit it has been done with me, whilst a couple have been on top and yes, it was very tempting because both were incredibly fit. I'd be lying to suggest otherwise. It's an anonymous forum, so if you can't post honestly on here, then what/s the point?

[Strawberry]

I like to do the arse equivalent of tit wanking on girls who let me, with the inevitable rubbing of my bare cock against their arsehole. Any views as to where this sits in the heirarchy of risks? I've thought of it as lower than owo and pussy contact in the way described above, because of the reduced, if any, potential mixing of fluids.

There are still fluids in that area, although it's not quite the same there can still be bacteria lurking in that area, and nematodes. You might want to do a search for 'rimming risks'. Or read this; External Link/Members Only

I don't know if the transmission is the same anus-penus as anus-mouth, but still worth consideration.

[Ben4454]

Just had a punt with a genuine Japanese girl who gave me oral without then when it was time for sex she just bent over and started to guide me in - Took some willpower to say no

[maxxblue]

Would be good to see a review!

[yorkshire123]

Would be good to see a review!

Or a link at least 

[vorian]

Just had a punt with a genuine Japanese girl who gave me oral without then when it was time for sex she just bent over and started to guide me in - Took some willpower to say no

Considering the amount of punters who ask on here about genuine Japanese prossies, a link or even better a review would be very helpful. 

[mattylondon]

Or a link at least 

I always find that a difficult one. Simply because what a prostitute offers one punter may vary vastly from one to the other, depending on the size of his wallet, her mood and yes, when she genuinely finds him attractive. It does happen. If I started posting up links for every prostitute who's offered me bareback, who doesn't openly advertise it, then there would be a lot of links!

But would that be fair? I may tell trusted posters via PM but not on this forum, for all to see and link, slate in some hypocritical way, like they've never done it themselves.

I'm not going to draw a distinction between those who secretly offer it and others who I don't know of because I believe they all do it, whilst whoring. Or at least are capable, should the right offer come along. Whether that be with 'select' punters or a boyfriend, fuck buddy, husband or pimp.

Not a single one will admit it, of course. Bad for their image but if any prossie comes on here, who's ever had a non punter relationship whilst whoring and states they've never fucked him bareback, ever, they're lying. 

[James999]

Would you class it as a the WG providing BB?

Yes 

[yorkshire123]

My request for a link had nothing to do with the BB.
I have no intention of seeking the services of a Japanese girl based on my experiences with civilian ones, i was curious to see if a fellow member had actually found one working in the uk.
If the OP wants to keep that to himself then that his choice of course.

[CoolTiger]

My request for a link had nothing to do with the BB.
I have no intention of seeking the services of a Japanese girl based on my experiences with civilian ones, i was curious to see if a fellow member had actually found one working in the uk.
If the OP wants to keep that to himself then that his choice of course.

I never mentioned any Japanese escort in my OP. It was Ben4454:

Just had a punt with a genuine Japanese girl who gave me oral without then when it was time for sex she just bent over and started to guide me in - Took some willpower to say no

[yorkshire123]

I never mentioned any Japanese escort in my OP. It was Ben4454:

So sorry CT i knew who i meant but had a bit of a typing brain fart (again)

[CoolTiger]

I always find that a difficult one. Simply because what a prostitute offers one punter may vary vastly from one to the other, depending on the size of his wallet, her mood and yes, when she genuinely finds him attractive. It does happen. If I started posting up links for every prostitute who's offered me bareback, who doesn't openly advertise it, then there would be a lot of links!

But would that be fair? I may tell trusted posters via PM but not on this forum, for all to see and link, slate in some hypocritical way, like they've never done it themselves.

I'm not going to draw a distinction between those who secretly offer it and others who I don't know of because I believe they all do it, whilst whoring. Or at least are capable, should the right offer come along. Whether that be with 'select' punters or a boyfriend, fuck buddy, husband or pimp.

Not a single one will admit it, of course. Bad for their image but if any prossie comes on here, who's ever had a non punter relationship whilst whoring and states they've never fucked him bareback, ever, they're lying. 

Great post Matt  . BB is a very tricky subject to discuss on here. Your post sums this up very accurately, and is very similar to my experience. 

[CoolTiger]

So sorry CT i knew who i meant but had a bit of a typing brain fart (again)

No apology needed 

[Horizontal pleasures]

not worried about how You Class it, just love it if mister happy is drooping, bound to revive, especially if it is hairy.

[dandaley]

In a word yes 

[mcb]

I wouldn't do it. Touching unprotected genitals can have the same result as full, penetrative sex.

[Dani]

Any form of genital touching without a condom is bareback.  The same risks are there unless she is as dry as a 60 year old prossie then the risks would only be for her.  Its the coming into contact with fluids that cause the risk although skin contact for herpes and warts but fluid contact such as her wetness and your pre cum are big risk factors and can cause issues if inside or outside of the vagina

[Daffodil]

Any form of genital touching without a condom is bareback.  The same risks are there unless she is as dry as a 60 year old prossie then the risks would only be for her.  Its the coming into contact with fluids that cause the risk although skin contact for herpes and warts but fluid contact such as her wetness and your pre cum are big risk factors and can cause issues if inside or outside of the vagina

A lot of nonsense 

[dandaley]

A lot of nonsense 

agree with dani dont know where your getting your info from 

[Twist]

I can't see how having your shaft rubbed between a pair of pussy lips is any more risky than OWO or pussy licking, especially if she licks off all her juice afterwards.

[Jason]

- The STIs that can be transmitted from skin to skin contact are genital herpes, HPV/genital warts and pubic lice.
- It is also possible to get chlamydia, gonorrhoea or syphilis IF (i) there is direct contact between mucous membranes (i.e. glans-clit) and/or (ii)there is vaginal fluid contact with the glans of the penis.
-This activity is riskier for the prossie due to the possible pre-cum contact with her clit

As a measure below is a study about transmission probabilities from BB PENETRATION. I would divide these probabilities by 3 for skin to skin contact transmissible STIs and by 20 for the others.
https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=24702.0

Bottom line: Do NOT do it. It is much riskier than OWO and much much riskier than RO.

[smiths]

I remember coming across this profile a few years ago and asking this on a different forum.

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Would you class it as a the WG providing BB?

If asked, would you take up on the offer?

Would any punters admit to to doing this whilst punting?

Yes i would class it as BB and i wouldnt do it, if offered i would walk.

[mattylondon]

Yes i would class it as BB and i wouldnt do it, if offered i would walk.

Depends though, doesn't it, in terms of rubbing it on her pussy as opposed to inserting it.

What if she was ultra fit and just rubbed her pussy up against you, whilst you were lying next to each other snogging?

Would you get up and walk then?! If you would, then you have a lot more self control than most! 

[Dani]

- The STIs that can be transmitted from skin to skin contact are genital herpes, HPV/genital warts and pubic lice.
- It is also possible to get chlamydia, gonorrhoea or syphilis IF (i) there is direct contact between mucous membranes (i.e. glans-clit) and/or (ii)there is vaginal fluid contact with the glans of the penis.
-This activity is riskier for the prossie due to the possible pre-cum contact with her clit


Bottom line: Do NOT do it. It is much riskier than OWO and much much riskier than RO.

Which is basically what I said.  It is always better to actually know what the risks are than to just assume you know.  A quick visit to any GUM clinic doctor not nurse will soon make anyone who is unsure fully aware of the risks of genital fluids or soft membranes coming into contact with each other
It is the fluids and soft membranous tissue that cause the risks during penetration so why wouldn't they have the same risks just because they are on the outside.

[yorkshire123]

I have only had one very near BB clit rubbing incident.

After visiting a Thai girl for 6 occasions i realised that she was pushing the boundaries more & more.

Visit 1,2 & 3 - Solo shower, massage, covered oral & peck peck kissing.
Visit 4 - Shared shower, OWO, covered sex & FK
Visit 5 - Shared bath (already prepared) OWO, covered sex & DFK (no time wasting massage)
Visit 6 - As above but this time she did a sexy lap dance after the bath, this is when the incident very nearly happened, i had a "what the fuck" moment & she apologised profusely but seemed a little confused about my reaction. Shrugged it off & back to the same as visit 5.

Driving home i made a conscious decision not to return & i haven't been back to see her since that episode.

What I'm trying to say (rather poorly) is that like most things in life complacency & familiarity can lead to the unexpected & both parties need to be on their guard. Im sure even prossie's get lost in the moment on rare occasions too?

[Aspen]

I have only had one very near BB clit rubbing incident.

After visiting a Thai girl for 6 occasions i realised that she was pushing the boundaries more & more.

Visit 1,2 & 3 - Solo shower, massage, covered oral & peck peck kissing.
Visit 4 - Shared shower, OWO, covered sex & FK
Visit 5 - Shared bath (already prepared) OWO, covered sex & DFK (no time wasting massage)
Visit 6 - As above but this time she did a sexy lap dance after the bath, this is when the incident very nearly happened, i had a "what the fuck" moment & she apologised profusely but seemed a little confused about my reaction. Shrugged it off & back to the same as visit 5.

Driving home i made a conscious decision not to return & i haven't been back to see her since that episode.

What I'm trying to say (rather poorly) is that like most things in life complacency & familiarity can lead to the unexpected & both parties need to be on their guard. Im sure even prossie's get lost in the moment on rare occasions too?

I don't think so at all. They know what they are doing and after 6 visits the chances are she was intending to bareback you to get you even more hooked.

Backfired that time, but I reckon it happens quite a lot.

[Daffodil]

agree with dani dont know where your getting your info from 

Then you are wrong, as has been pointed out subsequently 

Dani said that rubbing your cock against a pussy carries the same risk as penetrating her pussy without a condom. That is nonsense. It carries a risk, not the same risk 

[Daffodil]

Which is basically what I said.  It is always better to actually know what the risks are than to just assume you know.  A quick visit to any GUM clinic doctor not nurse will soon make anyone who is unsure fully aware of the risks of genital fluids or soft membranes coming into contact with each other
It is the fluids and soft membranous tissue that cause the risks during penetration so why wouldn't they have the same risks just because they are on the outside.

The oral mucosa is a mucous membrane (External Link/Members Only). So oral sex is mucous membrane to mucous membrane (the vagina and buccal mucosa are both specifically stratified squamous epithelium) and is therefore, by your logic, just as risky as sticking your uncovered cock into a vagina   

[dandaley]

its basically what she said without splitting hairs HIV is transmitted thru semen pre-ejaculate and vaginal secretions.  It can get into the body through contact with the penis and vagina.

[Daffodil]

its basically what she said without splitting hairs HIV is transmitted thru semen pre-ejaculate and vaginal secretions.  It can get into the body through contact with the penis and vagina.

And it can get in through oral mucosa  The risks are different 

[sucky2dollar]

The same risks are there

You should rephrase your answer. The activity has a lesser probability of infection than with BB insertion.
Just like OWO has an even lesser probability of infection than insertion.

Blanketing everything that's bareback as the same risk is misinformation and slightly fanatical.

[mattylondon]

You should rephrase your answer. The activity has a lesser probability of infection than with BB insertion.
Just like OWO has an even lesser probability of infection than insertion.

Blanketing everything that's bareback as the same risk is misinformation and slightly fanatical.

True. The fanatics pop up every now and again and proceed to give us all a health lecture. Lot's of hypocrisy.

Prostitutes of any standing will have serviced 1000s of cocks. The most promiscuous people on the planet. If people are that squeamish about sticking their cock anywhere near or in them, it's probably better not to punt at all.

[vorian]

True. The fanatics pop up every now and again and proceed to give us all a health lecture. Lot's of hypocrisy.

Prostitutes of any standing will have serviced 1000s of cocks. The most promiscuous people on the planet. If people are that squeamish about sticking their cock anywhere near them, it's probably better not to punt at all.

Very true, I sometimes wonder why they bother to punt, when a full hasmat suit seems the only way to reduce their fears.

[yorkshire123]

Very true, I sometimes wonder why they bother to punt, when a full hasmat suit seems the only way to reduce their fears.

I don't think they do, just pretend punting is as far as some get.

[mattylondon]

Very true, I sometimes wonder why they bother to punt, when a full hasmat suit seems the only way to reduce their fears.

I agree with Yorkshire that they either don't punt at all or it's simply mock concern, for effect. 

As if a man has any control on what services an individual prostitute decides to offer that individual punter? Fanciful.

[Horizontal pleasures]

Prostitutes of any standing will have serviced 1000s of cocks. The most promiscuous people on the planet. =

I shall reprise that:
Punters of any standing will have serviced 1000s ladies with their cocks. The most promiscuous people on the planet.

[dandaley]

well i personally class it as near enough bb and I wouldnt do it 

[mattylondon]

I shall reprise that:
Punters of any standing will have serviced 1000s ladies with their cocks. The most promiscuous people on the planet.

Perhaps a few notable exceptions in the case of individual punters. 100s more than likely, not 1000s. Promiscuous yes, but not as much as a prostitute.

I was referring to individual prossies of long standing. I know you're not too far away from taking your dirt nap, so I'll make allowances. 

You've shamelessly stuck your bare cock into some of the ugliest and dirtiest skanks on the planet. I think you're single handedly kept some of those hounds in business. I've seen you post links to prossies that would make a billy goat puke. 

Are you one of those bug chasers?