2023-24 Football season

[radioman33]

It’s anyone’s really,I think Leeds should be at least 2/1 as poor form.
Leeds 6/4
Southampton 13/8
Norwich 9/2
W.Brom 11/2

[WARSZAWA16]

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[webpunter]

It’s anyone’s really,I think Leeds should be at least 22/1 as poor form.
Leeds 6/4
Southampton 13/8
Norwich 9/2
W.Brom 11/2

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& being favourites [just] another nail in the coffin 
Although the odds are often adjusted depending on the level of betting & to try & ensure that the bookies make ££ whatever the outcome

[radioman33]

Good luck to David Moyes,he’s a good manager,not definite yet but Lopetegui coming in.He did a good job with what he had for West Ham.

[timsussex]

Good luck to David Moyes,he’s a good manager,not definite yet but Lopetegui coming in.He did a good job with what he had for West Ham.

Agreed gave them a European trophy with a very patchy squad - makes you wonder what he could do at a big club ......oh hang on 

[JontyR]

I think Moyes will now become the new Roy Hodgson. Delivering solid outcomes, stability, rescuing clubs from relegation whilst boring the knackers off everyone.

[mr.bluesky]

The Eagles are shitting on Wankchester big time. 
Surely Ten Hag is now on borrowed time.

[timsussex]

The Eagles are shitting on Wankchester big time. 
Surely Ten Hag is now on borrowed time.

Means currently no place in any European competitions - unless they win the FA Cup

[chrishornx]

The Eagles are shitting on Wankchester big time. 
Surely Ten Hag is now on borrowed time.

they have arsenal and newcastle next ...very tough times for them 

[mr.bluesky]

they have arsenal and newcastle next ...very tough times for them 

I think Ten Hags job is safe until the FA cup final  depending on the result of that game. Like you say they have a tough run in on their remaining fixtures but I wouldn't be surprised if outgoing Bayern Munich and former Chelsea boss Thomas Tuchel hasn't already been earmarked for the job. He knows the Premier league after all.

[daviemac]

I think Ten Hags job is safe until the FA cup final  depending on the result of that game. Like you say they have a tough run in on their remaining fixtures but I wouldn't be surprised if outgoing Bayern Munich and former Chelsea boss Thomas Tuchel hasn't already been earmarked for the job. He knows the Premier league after all.

Man U are wanting Newcastle's sporting director Dan Ashworth but can't agree a compensation package, personally I'd be wary of employing someone who jumps ship so readily when what seems like a better offer comes along. We got him from Brighton but he was put on gardening leave first and we had to pay compensation now he's in the same position with us.

Whatever contract he signs means nothing to him, he's got no loyalty to his employer.

[mr.bluesky]

Man U are wanting Newcastle's sporting director Dan Ashworth but can't agree a compensation package, personally I'd be wary of employing someone who jumps ship so readily when what seems like a better offer comes along. We got him from Brighton but he was put on gardening leave first and we had to pay compensation now he's in the same position with us.

Whatever contract he signs means nothing to him, he's got no loyalty to his employer.

Unless Man Utd are offering him mega bucks You would have to ask why he is leaving a club with great potential to win trophy's to join a club that's on the slide 

[daviemac]

Unless Man Utd are offering him mega bucks You would have to ask why he is leaving a club with great potential to win trophy's to join a club that's on the slide 

I suppose we can only guess but it was reported while he was working for the FA in 2018 he had been shortlisted for technical director at Man U but he joined Brighton, then when Newcastle showed interest he told Brighton he wanted to leave. Now Man U have come calling again he's told Newcastle he wants to leave.

Could be Man U have a bigger budget than Newcastle at the minute, it's going to take a while for us to get our revenue up to the level of some other prem teams. Mind getting out of the Mickey Mouse deals the FCB did on the commercial side is going a long way to improve things.

[southcoastpunter]

Unless Man Utd are offering him mega bucks You would have to ask why he is leaving a club with great potential to win trophy's to join a club that's on the slide 

maybe because, although lots of people don't like MU, they are still one of the biggest clubs in the world, if not the biggest! (depending how you measure "biggest")

(i'm not a MU fan but not a "hater" either!)

[daviemac]

maybe because, although lots of people don't like MU, they are still one of the biggest clubs in the world, if not the biggest! (depending how you measure "biggest")

(i'm not a MU fan but not a "hater" either!)

Newcastle at 17 in the world on the list for 2022/23 are £458m behind Man U, 5th, in the revenue stakes at the minute.

Man City, Man U, Liverpool, Spurs, Chelsea and Arsenal are all ahead of us, we are 7th in the premier league list though. It'll be interesting to see what difference the new commercial deals we have done make.

[mr.bluesky]

maybe because, although lots of people don't like MU, they are still one of the biggest clubs in the world, if not the biggest! (depending how you measure "biggest")

(i'm not a MU fan but not a "hater" either!)

I think it's only Man Utd fans who tag Man Utd as the " biggest club team in the world. How do you measure this, commercial revenue ? Domestic success?
I would say Real Madrid would have to be the biggest club team in the World right now.

[southcoastpunter]

I think it's only Man Utd fans who tag Man Utd as the " biggest club team in the world. How do you measure this, commercial revenue ? Domestic success?
I would say Real Madrid would have to be the biggest club team in the World right now.

ah, i did say I was not sure how it was measured. If by "total worldwide fan base", i suspect it would still be MU. it struct me in my travels over the last 15-18 months or so that whenever a MU game was on tv, the sports bars showing the match were more crowded than when any other teams were playing.(This was particularly so in Asia and also Colombia)

In terms of success, i agree - RM are taking over Man City's crown.

[mr.bluesky]

Football manager merry go round in motion again. Hull City have sacked manager Liam Rosenior despite Hull finishing just 3 points short of a play off position in 7th place. When he took over the club they were 21st in the league. A ridiculous decision. Club has a Turkish media broadcaster and entrepreneur as the owner who probably expects instant success.

[daviemac]

ah, i did say I was not sure how it was measured. If by "total worldwide fan base", i suspect it would still be MU. it struct me in my travels over the last 15-18 months or so that whenever a MU game was on tv, the sports bars showing the match were more crowded than when any other teams were playing.(This was particularly so in Asia and also Colombia)

In terms of success, i agree - RM are taking over Man City's crown.

According to this website - External Link/Members Only - below is the top 20 revenue generating clubs and I'm sure worldwide popularity has a lot to do with that. That's why Newcastle are doing their best to promote the brand all over the world. They did several promotional meet and greet type 'gigs' when they were in the states last year.



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[mr.bluesky]

According to this website - External Link/Members Only - below is the top 20 revenue generating clubs and I'm sure worldwide popularity has a lot to do with that. That's why Newcastle are doing their best to promote the brand all over the world. They did several promotional meet and greet type 'gigs' when they were in the states last year.



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Surprised to see West Ham so high on the list 

[willie loman]

ah, i did say I was not sure how it was measured. If by "total worldwide fan base", i suspect it would still be MU. it struct me in my travels over the last 15-18 months or so that whenever a MU game was on tv, the sports bars showing the match were more crowded than when any other teams were playing.(This was particularly so in Asia and also Colombia)

In terms of success, i agree - RM are taking over Man City's crown.

you can quibble if you will, but man united will always be near the top, astonishing given their relative failure over the last decade, every one remembers their victory over benefica in the 60s, no one really remembers any other english victory in europe.

[mr.bluesky]

you can quibble if you will, but man united will always be near the top, astonishing given their relative failure over the last decade, every one remembers their victory over benefica in the 60s, no one really remembers any other english victory in europe.

Yeah , Liverpools win over AC Milan on penalties after coming from 3-0 down is instantly forgettable in 2004/ 2005, nobody ever talks about that 
Or Nottingham Forest's back to back victories in 78/79,  79/80
Or Man Utd's late win over Bayern Munich in 98/99 , no remembers them .

[JontyR]

Grobelaar's jelly legged penalty shoot out?

Oh and if you are ever in the West Midlands you are never more than 20 yards away from a Villa fan banging on about 1982.

[mr.bluesky]

Grobelaar's jelly legged penalty shoot out?

Oh and if you are ever in the West Midlands you are never more than 20 yards away from a Villa fan banging on about 1982.

Exactly , but nobody remembers those according to willie  .

[webpunter]

I think it's only Man Utd fans who tag Man Utd as the " biggest club team in the world

Wankchester are by a significant margin the biggest bunch of cunts
Most neutral fans will agree me thinks

Whilst enjoyable seeing them ripped to shreds yesterday this enjoyment is brief
Still want them to lose to eliminate any chance of europe [say 2-1 or 3-1, no more than two goals]
This would increase the chances of ETH being in the chair next season
& another season of shite
If he departs there'll be a new manager bounce

ETH has his principles & ditching Sancho & Greenwood looks a bad call with the benefit of hindsight
He's still commenting in the press that he is the right manager  , wanting to stay blah blah
He must know he's toast & is waiting for a payoff 
Wankchester are going to have to pay top whack to get anyone decent, with a huge payoff if shown the door 

[webpunter]

Karma, the cheating french cunts [denying Newcastle progressing with the help of the ref & UEFA] are oot
No matter how good they are in Ligue 1 romping it with ease in probably the dullest league in europe they still cant step up
PSG passing FFP or whatever the UEFA equivalent is 

[radioman33]

Bolton managed to hang on,going to Wembley once a prem club and Crawley town easy 3-0 win MK Dons league 2

[Fac51]

Yeah , Liverpools win over AC Milan on penalties after coming from 3-0 down is instantly forgettable in 2004/ 2005, nobody ever talks about that 
Or Nottingham Forest's back to back victories in 78/79,  79/80
Or Man Utd's late win over Bayern Munich in 98/99 , no remembers them .

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Exactly 

Forest as a provincial club winning the European cup twice with the greatest manager England never had will NEVER be repeated. It was amazing

And No, I'm not a Forest fan either ...

[radioman33]

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Exactly 

Forest as a provincial club winning the European cup twice with the greatest manager England never had will NEVER be repeated. It was amazing

And No, I'm not a Forest fan either ...

John Robertson was On Talksport the other day,part of that team.

[mr.bluesky]

Bolton managed to hang on,going to Wembley once a prem club and Crawley town easy 3-0 win MK Dons league 2

That Bolton v Barnsley match was some game. Bolton 3-1 up from the first leg looked to be cruising it but credit to Barnsley for having a real go and nearly pulling off a remarkable come back. 👏

[mr.bluesky]

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Exactly 

Forest as a provincial club winning the European cup twice with the greatest manager England never had will NEVER be repeated. It was amazing

And No, I'm not a Forest fan either ...

A team full of British players too,  with the likes of Shilton , Lloyd, McGovern, Tony Woodcock etc. Eight English players and three Scots in that team. Woodcock went on to have a successful career in Germany for FC Cologne as well as a stint at Arsenal, a much underrated player for England too. Their second European cup victory over German club Hamburg containing a certain Kevin Keegan.

[willie loman]

Exactly , but nobody remembers those according to willie  .

you are always posturing as the forums greatest expert on football, yet you were unaware that celtic had played in 2 european cup finals, ironic given that one was in the 70s , a decade for which you profess great nostalgia.

[chrishornx]

you are always posturing as the forums greatest expert on football, yet you were unaware that celtic had played in 2 european cup finals, ironic given that one was in the 70s , a decade for which you profess great nostalgia.

the fact he doesn't mention Celtic hardly means he has forgotten them. And this part of the thread seems to be specifically about English clubs

[Blackpool Rock]

Wankchester are by a significant margin the biggest bunch of cunts
Most neutral fans will agree me thinks

Whilst enjoyable seeing them ripped to shreds yesterday this enjoyment is brief
Still want them to lose to eliminate any chance of europe [say 2-1 or 3-1, no more than two goals]
This would increase the chances of ETH being in the chair next season
& another season of shite
If he departs there'll be a new manager bounce

ETH has his principles & ditching Sancho & Greenwood looks a bad call with the benefit of hindsight
He's still commenting in the press that he is the right manager  , wanting to stay blah blah
He must know he's toast & is waiting for a payoff 
Wankchester are going to have to pay top whack to get anyone decent, with a huge payoff if shown the door

Sitting on the fence again then 

[willie loman]

the fact he doesn't mention Celtic hardly means he has forgotten them. And this part of the thread seems to be specifically about English clubs

i dont know why you are replying on his behalf, he knows what post i am referring to.

[mr.bluesky]

you are always posturing as the forums greatest expert on football, yet you were unaware that celtic had played in 2 european cup finals, ironic given that one was in the 70s , a decade for which you profess great nostalgia.

I don't claim to be the greatest expert on football but your topic was about English teams claiming no one remembers their achievements apart from Man Utd 's victory over Benfica or is your memory span so short you can't remember what you posted. Stick to posting about Scottish football because you know Jack shit about football South of the border.
I am well aware that Celtic won the European cup in 1967 but your topic was about English teams specifically Man Utd.
So what's Celtic got to do with it  I can only assume that you are also a Wankchester Utd fan too which explains everything.

[mr.bluesky]

the fact he doesn't mention Celtic hardly means he has forgotten them. And this part of the thread seems to be specifically about English clubs

Exactly,  but you can't argue with an idiot he will drag you down to his level then beat you with his vast experience. 

[alftupper]

PSG passing FFP or whatever the UEFA equivalent is 

Just to be an annoying pedant. FFP (Financial fair play) was the UEFA equivalent until they changed the name to FSR (Financial sustainability rules) . There has never been FFP in the Premier League, it's called PSR (Profit and sustainability regulations).

[Stevelondon]

PSG fail again. Even though the pundits said they would overturn the first game.

All German final anyone ?

[mr.bluesky]

PSG fail again. Even though the pundits said they would overturn the first game.

All German final anyone ?

An all German final at Wembley 

[chrishornx]

Exactly,  but you can't argue with an idiot he will drag you down to his level then beat you with his vast experience. 

not sur which post he was specifically referring to. No doubt he will explain in due course

[WARSZAWA16]

I take Real Madrid to get to the final. They always seem to get the job done in Europe.

[mr.bluesky]

I take Real Madrid to get to the final. They always seem to get the job done in Europe.

They have to start as favourites. The last time Dortmund played a Champions league final at Wembley was against Bayern Munich which they lost so not a happy hunting ground for them.

[chrishornx]

They have to start as favourites. The last time Dortmund played a Champions league final at Wembley was against Bayern Munich which they lost so not a happy hunting ground for them.

got to agree whoever gets through tonight will be favourites at Wembley

[timsussex]

Article in The Times suggesting that Chelsea can't afford to qualify for Europe - as they will then need to meet the stricter UEFA financial standards ( don't laugh)
Apparently UEFA closed the long contract loophole a couple of years before the Premier league. Chelsea also spent £75 million last year on agents fees !

Similarly last years loss of £120million by Aston Villa could see them in trouble as the cash they got from Grealish falls out of the 2 year window in which they can lose a maximum of £35 million
The Premier league allow £105 million over 3 years

[webpunter]

Sitting on the fence again then 

As always
Think the post might have poured ice on my bromance 

[webpunter]

Just to be an annoying pedant. FFP (Financial fair play) was the UEFA equivalent until they changed the name to FSR (Financial sustainability rules) . There has never been FFP in the Premier League, it's called PSR (Profit and sustainability regulations).

Not annoying at all.  Good to know 

[webpunter]

Article in The Times suggesting that Chelsea can't afford to qualify for Europe - as they will then need to meet the stricter UEFA financial standards ( don't laugh)
Apparently UEFA closed the long contract loophole a couple of years before the Premier league. Chelsea also spent £75 million last year on agents fees !

Similarly last years loss of £120million by Aston Villa could see them in trouble as the cash they got from Grealish falls out of the 2 year window in which they can lose a maximum of £35 million
The Premier league allow £105 million over 3 years

 

How PSG, Real & Barca ever 'pass' these tests / requirements i have no idea 
Some very creative accounting

[willie loman]

I don't claim to be the greatest expert on football but your topic was about English teams claiming no one remembers their achievements apart from Man Utd 's victory over Benfica or is your memory span so short you can't remember what you posted. Stick to posting about Scottish football because you know Jack shit about football South of the border.
I am well aware that Celtic won the European cup in 1967 but your topic was about English teams specifically Man Utd.
So what's Celtic got to do with it  I can only assume that you are also a Wankchester Utd fan too which explains everything.

my point was that you werent aware of celtic being in 2 finals, i was referring to an earlier thread where you had displayed your ignorance, you are the one with memory problems, as you know i enjoy goading you.

[mr.bluesky]

my point was that you werent aware of celtic being in 2 finals, i was referring to an earlier thread where you had displayed your ignorance, you are the one with memory problems, as you know i enjoy goading you.

I am well aware of Celtic's European history. You recently showed your ignorance  when critisising English clubs for being full of foreign players when your own team has many .
If goading me makes you happy then carry on. As the saying goes " little things please little minds"
I know one thing, Celtics recent European history is very short, they can never get out the group stage   
In normal circumstances I would look forward to some more pearls of wisdom from you but as you are going on my ignore list I don't think I'll be missing anything.