Are girls pricing themselves out of the market ?

[king tarzan]

Exactly which is why I think those who do charge those prices on Adultwork are deluded or scammers!

They have there own personal fancy flowery website page with 10 inch thick of self deluded worth bullshit followed by outrageous pricing...

[Heph]

They will also float in and out of actually Escorting as they will also no doubt have an eye to meeting and marrying the right kind of wealthy guy so will also frequent... social events like 'Royal Ascot'.

You may have missed some of the last decade's developments on that last bit...

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[NotThePrimeMinister]

The genuine High end escort agencies are catering to a different market, very wealthy usually international businessman who want to have a girl on retainer for at least a weekend and don't want her to be spoiled goods so to say. They charge those rates to scare off the average punter!

These High end escorts will very rarely do a 1hr in-call punt, they are expecting to at least do an overnight with meal at £3000+. A millionaire hedge fund manager is hardly going to blink an eye at that kind of pricing.

Mmm, but who books a girl for an overnight or a weekend without "testing" her for 1 hour first? It's not only about the money : even if you were a squillionaire, wouldn't you want to be sure you like her and get along before committing to a long booking? To save time and disappointment, if not money.

And how many people can there be in London willing to pay > 300 for an hour, or thousands for long bookings? The logistics alone are difficult: a bank payment leaves a trace, and most banks won't let you withdraw thousands in cash.

Sometimes I think that these whores that offer long bookings cater to a totally different client than the average UKP user, not only in terms of income, but also because the clients of these high end girls maybe want also companionship and want to live the delusion they are kind of in a relationship with a hottie? I mean, what's the point of booking a girl for 3 days taking her to the opera and stuff like that? I'll never understand it. Unless you want to reinforce a bad case of EAS.

What do you guys think?

[workinallweek]

You may have missed some of the last decade's developments on that last bit...

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was at Ascot a few years ago and it had its moments like the two girls who came in the gents and asked who wanted a fuck , and the tree girls in a sand pit giving blowjobs to a line up of guys apparently a bet to see who could do the most ....

[NotThePrimeMinister]

So maybe the title should be rephrased as: are Ascot chavs pricing prossies out of the market?

[king tarzan]

Miya rai I paid £250 day before was £400 no way
She told me on high end escorts sites she was £800 per hour


Very large contrasts..

I am just after hotties

Not wine dine dinner
Not Conversations
Not Company


Bottom line is whether your
£100 per hour whore YOU ARE A WHORE or
£2000 per hour whore YOU STILL ARE A WHORE


So shit adult websites or fancy flowery adult websites are both advertising WHORES..

[MilleMiglia]

Mmm, but who books a girl for an overnight or a weekend without "testing" her for 1 hour first? It's not only about the money : even if you were a squillionaire, wouldn't you want to be sure you like her and get along before committing to a long booking? To save time and disappointment, if not money.

And how many people can there be in London willing to pay > 300 for an hour, or thousands for long bookings? The logistics alone are difficult: a bank payment leaves a trace, and most banks won't let you withdraw thousands in cash.

Sometimes I think that these whores that offer long bookings cater to a totally different client than the average UKP user, not only in terms of income, but also because the clients of these high end girls maybe want also companionship and want to live the delusion they are kind of in a relationship with a hottie? I mean, what's the point of booking a girl for 3 days taking her to the opera and stuff like that? I'll never understand it. Unless you want to reinforce a bad case of EAS.

What do you guys think?

Going by what my ex reg told me, there are a lot of seriously rich men out there who are willing to pay. Numerous anecdotes, and all of them made me look like a pauper.

[Heph]

Mmm, but who books a girl for an overnight or a weekend without "testing" her for 1 hour first? It's not only about the money : even if you were a squillionaire, wouldn't you want to be sure you like her and get along before committing to a long booking? To save time and disappointment, if not money.

Some, not many, but enough, will only learn that lesson after being stung. Especially wealthy but novice visitors from countries where whoring is difficult. Of those who do 'test' first, most probably feel that they can get a feel of the girl in the first few minutes and satisfy themselves that the next stage is a dinner date or overnighter.

And how many people can there be in London willing to pay > 300 for an hour, or thousands for long bookings? The logistics alone are difficult: a bank payment leaves a trace, and most banks won't let you withdraw thousands in cash.

Several tens of thousands, at least, most of whom will have strong urges at least weekly.

The logistics alone are difficult: a bank payment leaves a trace, and most banks won't let you withdraw thousands in cash.

It's really not that difficult if you have the money: several bank accounts for a start.

Sometimes I think that these whores that offer long bookings cater to a totally different client than the average UKP user

On a recent booking, the whore and I were chatting about the typical behaviour of different nationalities of punters. To support a point she was making, she played and incoming call on loudspeaker. A well-spoken, clearly cultured young man from one of the Gulf States, made what I thought was a sincere enquiry. She rattled out a stream of curt questions, decided she didn't want his business and hung up.

The average UKP user and our offline equivalents are an important bread-and-butter market for many big city WG's, but I'm afraid we aren't necessarily their meat and drink.

I mean, what's the point of booking a girl for 3 days taking her to the opera and stuff like that? I'll never understand it.

Imagine that spending £50 had a similar impact as spending £1 does on you now, and riff it from there.

[Heph]

Bottom line is whether your
£100 per hour whore YOU ARE A WHORE or
£2000 per hour whore YOU STILL ARE A WHORE

So shit adult websites or fancy flowery adult websites are both advertising WHORES..

But still... thank goodness for whores, eh?

[DeanoDeano]

I agree with pretty much everything Heph said just up there.

There are plenty of people around for whom the difference between £100 and £500 is just inconsequential.

I've spoken to London WGs who get booked for the day by dealers who just want some eye candy around to look cool.

I work with people for whom taking a girl away for the weekend and subbing them a couple of grand is not a big deal.

I agree a lot of these girls are not on AW. More probably on SA.

But the market is geared towards what people want to pay, and different people want to pay different amounts. Value of money etc.

[NotThePrimeMinister]

Imagine that spending £50 had a similar impact as spending £1 does on you now, and riff it from there.

But it's not (just) about the money. Even if it cost me £1 to hire a hottie for 3 days, I think I still wouldn't do it; maybe I'd book her for 2 hours on Monday and for 2 hours on Wednesday, but not for 3 days in a row. I can't shag for 72 hours in a row! And I have no interest in taking a prossie to the opera, to Harrods Le Gavroche or wherever. That's the key bit I question: not the money, but why seek the companionship of a prossie for so long? It is genuine curiosity but it makes me think that these clients are a combination of lonely people who want companionship, and deluded EAS-suffering fluffies who want to live the fantasy that they're dating these hotties. Some of these high class expensive hotties tweet constantly about the shit they're up to, and publish gift lists with really expensive stuff. Who cares that she drank a Chateau Latour or travelled to Paris? And who buys a prossie a Gucci handbag?

Horses for courses, of course, I'm just curious!

[Marmalade]

was at Ascot a few years ago and it had its moments like the two girls who came in the gents and asked who wanted a fuck , and the tree girls in a sand pit giving blowjobs to a line up of guys apparently a bet to see who could do the most ....

Sounds rather fun though. How much was your Ascot ticket? I wonder if they have more ‘PC’ enforcements now...

[king tarzan]

I have seen a few hotties who have told me they get flown to the middle east by wealthy arabs and stay with them for about a week to two weeks, all inclusive flights, get put up in classy hotels.. and given an allowance to spend and obviously there fee too.
I just think to myself i don't give a shit, i have just fucked you too!!
only need you for an hour anyway!!
I remember when I saw Lyric after we had finished, i was getting dressed and she was waffling that her £200 rate per hour was far to low, and that she is going to increase it too much higher..
I just stayed silent as a mouse, thinking i just got a bargain with a super honey!!

As long as i get my 30 mins to 1 hour with a super honey i am satisfied..

A few times i have thought about negotiating an all nighter with a hottie that i have seen before, but then wake up to the fact that my mind and body can barely cope with an hour with a woman let alone several physical hours with the same woman..
WHAT A SUPER WASTE OF MONEY THAT WOULD BE..

We have our expenses to think about living in London, which we all know is very expensive,whoring is not a priority, the whore with me gets her hourly fee from me, the riches she can get from another man who wants to wine and dine, need to hear her voice, needs her to show off off his arm, and needs her all night.. there money rightly there choice.

[Flunt]

WHAT A SUPER WASTE OF MONEY THAT WOULD BE..

If you had £200 million sitting around would you worry about wasting £50,000 for a week with a couple of models. one on each arm, and when you've taken them shopping they show their appreciation in the back of the limo, warming you up for the main event on the way back to the hotel? You could have a whole fruit bowl. 

[king tarzan]

If you had £200 million sitting around would you worry about wasting £50,000 for a week with a couple of models. one on each arm, and when you've taken them shopping they show their appreciation in the back of the limo, warming you up for the main event on the way back to the hotel? You could have a whole fruit bowl. 

Mike tyson and Evander Holyfield each had double that amount you stated above, sadly look at them know!!
wonder how many Queen Cobras they had on there arms!!
Being stupid with money has its consequences..

I am a normal man who in comparison spends peanuts in comparison to the wealthy man but i get model standard luckily with my peanuts!!

so im am happy a big fat YES!!

[Redbull4]

I use to work with guys who would fly from Aberdeen to London/Amsterdam on a Friday and come back late Sunday/Monday morning. I know they were engaging in escorts during this time, as they told me. To some of these people dropping thousands a day was nothing to them. And booking girls for a weekend and a hotel was just a reward to them, just another game to some.

Unlike myself and others I'm just a mechanic so I can't engage in these high end transactions. The market suits me right now. I can afford to participate quite regular and have a surplus of cash flow to enjoy myself.

At the end of the day these high flyers will be visiting the same flats as me. We are all just the same on some levels.

[king tarzan]

The market suits me right now. I can afford to participate quite regular and have a surplus of cash flow to enjoy myself.

At the end of the day these high flyers will be visiting the same flats as me. We are all just the same on some levels.

 +1

[king tarzan]

once a whore told me a true story about that they were in the middle east and some rich arab offered up £10k for the night bareback..
A woman in the group took up the offer..
Next day he sent her round flowers and card informing her he had HIV..

what whores do for money..

[Flunt]

I live to dream and occasionally the dreams come true, with the occasional nightmare. Sometimes a longer punt is something different, as much as a half hour is different to an hour. A long, leisurely outcall, the comfort of my own bed where the scent of a woman lingers to keep the memory alive.

Are they pricing themselves out of the market? I have some spare cash and the willingness to spend it, if I don't think they're worth it then I'll find someone else.

[king tarzan]

Over many years some of the super honeys i have seen over the years in South American brothels could with there eyes closed command hefty fees if they were around now and marketed themselves properly..
and certainly better looking than some of these women on high end very high priced escort sites..

i guess i have been extremely lucky in this punting hobby!!

TOUCHWOOD

[king tarzan]

I mean south American run brothels in London

[Flunt]

I remember one beautiful young woman who was just starting her pro$$ie career, graduating from masseuse. My first case of EAS (as it is known now), I left my future ex-wife to be with her and she turned me down. 

I went to see her the next day and paid her £30 extra for a fuck, the last time I ever saw her, 20 years ago. 

[king tarzan]

i also remember a young fit sexy russian brunette who i fucked in a hanwell brothel.. about 15 to 17 years ago..
paid her for very average service.. oral with and sex 15 mins £30 i think..maybe £40.. no kissing or mango licking..
she was beautiful, but had a bit of a bitchy attitude..
she told me she was new to UK brothel scene, and won't be staying at this place long, she is just getting to know how it all works..
several months later she appeared on tv!!
i a sure it was her!!
she was telling how she was making £2000 a night as a very high end upmarket escort..

its the timing and right place at the right time and at the right price for me!!


yummy....

[Heph]

maybe I'd book her for 2 hours on Monday and for 2 hours on Wednesday, but not for 3 days in a row. I can't shag for 72 hours in a row!

If you had the means to comfortably book your whores for a substantial length of time, you'd most likely feel far less of a pressing need to "get your money's worth". You must have read accounts on this forum from your peer punters which will say they need to pop two times in 30 minutes, and whom seem to genuinely not comprehend why someone might want to stick around for a moment longer. That'll be your fluffy arse they're implicitly criticising then. Each to their own.

That's the key bit I question: not the money, but why seek the companionship of a prossie for so long? It is genuine curiosity but it makes me think that these clients are a combination of lonely people who want companionship, and deluded EAS-suffering fluffies who want to live the fantasy that they're dating these hotties.

Coming back to my earlier point: if money flowed for you like water, you'd take your chosen whore/s along like any 50th birthday boy takes his mates and their partners away for a long weekend somewhere in the Med.

NB: the three day rule does still apply: the shine comes off all company after a while, but, if you were at all sensible, you'd give your girl several hours a day of her own free time to allow her to breathe and recover both for her and your own sakes. And it would quickly become clear as to why that really was the best value-adding, relaxing course of action, despite the cost.

You may be right that many who do this are lonely, and/or EAS fluffies living a fantasy; but most people frequently feel lonely - so there's very little shame in that. Most of us ought to have overstepped unsafe emotional bounds too - so what of that? And anyone who punts is, to some degree, a fantasist.

Some of these high class expensive hotties tweet constantly about the shit they're up to, and publish gift lists with really expensive stuff. Who cares that she drank a Chateau Latour or travelled to Paris? And who buys a prossie a Gucci handbag?

For the same reason you take selfies in front of the Eiffel Tower, or Wembley, or whatever it is you do and like to boast about. You're right that almost nobody cares, but you still do it.

As long as i get my 30 mins to 1 hour with a super honey i am satisfied..

On this, Tarzan is surely right. This has to be the best approach: find what you like, within bounds that feel comfortable, and allow yourself to be satisfied.

A few times i have thought about negotiating an all nighter with a hottie that i have seen before, but then wake up to the fact that my mind and body can barely cope with an hour with a woman let alone several physical hours with the same woman..
WHAT A SUPER WASTE OF MONEY THAT WOULD BE...

However; on the above, unless one has tried something, we really aren't able to usefully pass comment.

[MilleMiglia]

But it's not (just) about the money. Even if it cost me £1 to hire a hottie for 3 days, I think I still wouldn't do it; maybe I'd book her for 2 hours on Monday and for 2 hours on Wednesday, but not for 3 days in a row. I can't shag for 72 hours in a row! And I have no interest in taking a prossie to the opera, to Harrods Le Gavroche or wherever. That's the key bit I question: not the money, but why seek the companionship of a prossie for so long? It is genuine curiosity but it makes me think that these clients are a combination of lonely people who want companionship, and deluded EAS-suffering fluffies who want to live the fantasy that they're dating these hotties. Some of these high class expensive hotties tweet constantly about the shit they're up to, and publish gift lists with really expensive stuff. Who cares that she drank a Chateau Latour or travelled to Paris? And who buys a prossie a Gucci handbag?

Horses for courses, of course, I'm just curious!

Some of the sites will make mention of a tour guide and interpreter service. I've had two trips where the girl earned her money on this alone - I wouldn't have seen many of the things that I did otherwise, not to mention travelling easily from one location to another using trams and the metro.

[NotThePrimeMinister]

once a whore told me a true story about that they were in the middle east and

How do you know it was true? 

Some of the sites will make mention of a tour guide and interpreter service. I've had two trips where the girl earned her money on this alone

So you didn't bring a prossie with you, but hired her at your destination? Had you tried her before? It sounds very risky - what if you don't click?

Also, any reviews you feel like sharing after 2 years as a member?

[king tarzan]

How do you know it was true? 
So you didn't bring a prossie with you, but hired her at your destination? Had you tried her before? It sounds very risky - what if you don't click?

Also, any reviews you feel like sharing after 2 years as a member?

The lady telling me the middle east HIV story had to take a few deep breaths, nearly had tears coming out of her eyes, she was certainly affected as she knew the woman as a fellow working girl friend.
IMHO she had no reason to lie.
She was genuinely distressed when she told me.

[MilleMiglia]

How do you know it was true? 
So you didn't bring a prossie with you, but hired her at your destination? Had you tried her before? It sounds very risky - what if you don't click?

Also, any reviews you feel like sharing after 2 years as a member?

All bookings were made via the agency beforehand, as the more popular girls book up well in advance. Most went well, however, I did have one who was a complete nightmare:

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None of the women concerned are now available, so reviews of them would be pointless but, to give you an idea, see my comments on Ivana of Ski Bunnies (somewhat fluffy, but I had a great time):

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Sadly, I didn't get to see her again.

[fed24]

Mmm, but who books a girl for an overnight or a weekend without "testing" her for 1 hour first? It's not only about the money : even if you were a squillionaire, wouldn't you want to be sure you like her and get along before committing to a long booking? To save time and disappointment, if not money.

And how many people can there be in London willing to pay > 300 for an hour, or thousands for long bookings? The logistics alone are difficult: a bank payment leaves a trace, and most banks won't let you withdraw thousands in cash.

Sometimes I think that these whores that offer long bookings cater to a totally different client than the average UKP user, not only in terms of income, but also because the clients of these high end girls maybe want also companionship and want to live the delusion they are kind of in a relationship with a hottie? I mean, what's the point of booking a girl for 3 days taking her to the opera and stuff like that? I'll never understand it. Unless you want to reinforce a bad case of EAS.

What do you guys think?

Why would they need to test her first? This is a different world as myself and others have tried to point out, I would go even further than saying if '£50 is worth the same as £1', for many of these guys £1000+ is worth the same as £1. It is not just about punting the girl or having sex but having the power to do what you want for as long as you want! The key words as I said earlier is 'Put on Retainer', as others have pointed out it won't be 72+ hours of constant sex. It could involve all sorts of activities, I vaguely remember a TV program with one of these Super Elite Escorts a few years back and the woman pointed out that it was about somebody having total control over her life for a weekend up to a week. She went and did whatever the client wanted for that period. It could involve international travel, shopping, parties on yachts and much more! She would have time to herself usually and sex was only a part of the exercise, the important thing was during the time she was booked the client had her at his beck and call at all times.

To get back to the need to test beforehand, if you are a guy that wants a model quality woman on retainer for several days and can afford it you will expect the agency to send a perfect specimen physically and in temperament, anything less and the Agency will damn well know about it!

It is definitely EAS! These are guys who can buy what they want when they want, then have control over it for however long they want. They certainly won't get attached...

[david25]

I think its a cycle, back in 2000 and before (yes nearly 20 years ago) the top London agencies were charging £300 per hour.

Compared to general inflation I think the top end pricing has been very static, even dropping.

At the low and medium ends, I will let others comment.

The big "B" might change things again next year.

[david25]

But it's not (just) about the money. Even if it cost me £1 to hire a hottie for 3 days, I think I still wouldn't do it; maybe I'd book her for 2 hours on Monday and for 2 hours on Wednesday, but not for 3 days in a row. I can't shag for 72 hours in a row! And I have no interest in taking a prossie to the opera, to Harrods Le Gavroche or wherever. That's the key bit I question: not the money, but why seek the companionship of a prossie for so long? It is genuine curiosity but it makes me think that these clients are a combination of lonely people who want companionship, and deluded EAS-suffering fluffies who want to live the fantasy that they're dating these hotties. Some of these high class expensive hotties tweet constantly about the shit they're up to, and publish gift lists with really expensive stuff. Who cares that she drank a Chateau Latour or travelled to Paris? And who buys a prossie a Gucci handbag?

Horses for courses, of course, I'm just curious!

A long time ago, I had a manager who commuted from Dubai every week. Now I don't know his private life, but at that level you are living in a different world.

All of the things you mentioned are possible

(1) lonely, yes working 12 hours a day and the looking forward to a nice 7 hour commute (12 when you factor passport control)
(2) EAS in all its forms
(3) Their mates are doing it
(4) etc

£5000 for some people is completely insignificant.

[holland]

I think its a cycle, back in 2000 and before (yes nearly 20 years ago) the top London agencies were charging £300 per hour.

Compared to general inflation I think the top end pricing has been very static, even dropping.

At the low and medium ends, I will let others comment.

The big "B" might change things again next year.

I think your opinion is valuable however if your experience start back to the 2000 you better start writing a review to avoid to sounds a bit silly as you do a bit now