Is it time to retire?

[Dlevine]

I have to tell you it appears more and more difficult to find someone who is what they say, who offers what they say, who is available when they say, and who charges a reasonable price for what they offer.
I keep to what I say and am respectful. 
Is it really too much trouble to expect the same.

Think I’m done with this as the search for someone decent is too time consuming .

25 years and I’m nearly out.

[Stevelondon]

I think quite possibly it’s a case of just getting older and becoming more interested in quality over quantity.
I know I am and it’s nothing to do with just not fancying a punt as much as I did.
It’s because I’m more selective and definitely more critical of what’s on offer.

[Dlevine]

I agree

I’m interested in a punt but it feels like most of the time I arrive and something is not what I was told.
I think it’s a societal issue.

[pa5151]

Society has change drastically even in the last few years, people are desperate and trying to take advantage of you.

People have also changed and different attitude to life, much more entitlement. It's not what it was and never will be.

[Crackanut]

You lot sound like a bunch of old wanders. Tighten your shit up and just walk. Suck it up if it's shit and stick to the good SPs. It's called punting for a reason.

[lillythesavage]

You lot sound like a bunch of old wanders. Tighten your shit up and just walk. Suck it up if it's shit and stick to the good SPs. It's called punting for a reason.

Lol, they could try evolving the way they punt, not so easy for attached guys but single guys can have a ball with some time put into it, AW is not the only way to find paid sex.

[Dlevine]

The point is there are very few decent punts, and that’s replicated across other sites
Look at a very well know agency a few years back
compared to now.

[Malvolio]

The Brexit uncertainty and COVID pandemic has led to a lot of foreign WGs leaving and not being replaced - but I'm optimistic that once travel normality returns they will be back.  At the moment you've just got to wait it out.

[Stevelondon]

You lot sound like a bunch of old wanders. Tighten your shit up and just walk. Suck it up if it's shit and stick to the good SPs. It's called punting for a reason.

You can think what you like.
The question has naff all to do with walking or shit.

I punt as I want too and I repeat, I’m selective because I can be.
Unlike you obviously who punts because of insecurities 

By the way. I’m not an old wander …….. whatever that is.

[whoya.kiddin]

The Brexit uncertainty and COVID pandemic has led to a lot of foreign WGs leaving and not being replaced - but I'm optimistic that once travel normality returns they will be back.  At the moment you've just got to wait it out.

Agreed.  Market is bad but it will improve.

[prelude141]

I fully agree with the OP. It’s a societal issue. Things have changed dramatically during the last 10 years or so. The behavior of the WGs we all observe is a reflection of how people generally behave in society. With WG it’s even more visible and straightforward because you pay upfront and the pimp protect the girl so you don’t have any leverage  but try to buy a house or a second hand car and there are 200% probability the seller will try to fuck you the same way but with better manners but the conclusion is similar.

I barely punt nowadays, I must getting old but I can’t bear anymore to be fucked up by WGs and the London market has just become an absolute joke

[Dlevine]

One of the response highlight the issue.
Rudeness for the sake it.
The respondent can be and hide behind a post.
So too with these girls and their fakes profiles.
Same thing really. Societal issues

[Ron89]

One thing I will note is that it's getting increasingly common for girls to double book you, which is potentially due to flaky punters not turning up so I'm not entirely blaming them.

[Lp1975]

A combinations of factors…

Age is probably one factor - I am old enough and don’t really have the urge as often. And so I agree with the earlier comment of quality over quantify.

The social media style of communication is also creating a saturation… it’s like a overload with lots of noise. Going on AW is like going to any social media site, whatever you “choose”, you get so much information when 90pc of that is probably useless. In the old days of going to a phone box (!!), there were only so many cards they could fit on the wall!

I think it also leads to a re-emergence of agencies - somehow it just seems to offer that little bit of quality control. And I have preferred going to a tried and tested place rather than looking for a needle in the AW haystack!

[lillythesavage]

It is a social generation issue, the younger generation of women willing to sell pussy are still coming through, but the likes of AW are old hat now and as you can see on here, with all the internet searches of pictures and linking to social media some try and do, they do not want to put themselves on such sites.

Punters, or rather stalker types, are to blame for a lot of it, the internet and posting pictures exposes them to this and they simply do not want the risk of being exposed. They look at other ways first and if another way, selling online content, or a few meets, gives enough to top up low wages or a decent weekly wage then they do not move on to the world of pimps/agencies, renting, costly advertising, dealing with bad punters and exposing themselves to the internet as a whore.

It took some time to work it all out, but using other media I am having no problem getting very sensibly priced punts with 20 somethings, every one of them is in full time employment and topping up income, and it is not call, book, pay, fuck but AW is not attractive to them at all. The rewards do not outweigh the risks and costs like they once may have anymore.
They are still out there, you just have to put some effort into finding them, pussy for money will never die , it is just evolving.

Like a lot of " Jobs" the flood of cheap EE labor did the market no favors in the long run but things are changing now, truck driving has gone from low paid to well paid in the last year, 20 quid plus an hour is the going rate, up from 10 to 14 pre pandemic and the big B. AW may not win them back though, career whoring is not as attractive or lucrative as it once was.

[Stevelondon]

Good post Lilly.
Although I still do peruse AW. I found out a long time ago that there were other avenues to explore in the search for pussy.
I’ve said it elsewhere. Sometimes the research and finding is as much fun as the punt or at least adds to it.
Craigslist is crap now but I’ve had a number of really good finds just answering ads that offered pics, foot worship, massage etc. All turning into something more and a couple of times, actual quite long term sexual relationships.

It’s what I was attempting to say earlier. No need to retire. Just stick to your inner quality control 

[char45]

Agree with alot of this, I started punting 20 years ago and for the first 10-15 years there was a middle ground of decent quality girls charging 80-130 hour without extras, except anal. These were alongside the cheaper girls doing mainly P&D and trying to hustle you for extras and out the door quickly, and the high end girls.

That middle seems to have gone with the decent quality girls charging more.

I don't think the situation will improve when things reopen because the European girls who previously could stay here indefinitely are limited to six months a year so they are going to need to cram what might have been 10 months of work into 6.

[peter jb]

Haven’t punted much due to lockdown, but when I go through phases of shit punts or nothing appealing, I go for a nice quality massage and HR for around £60 /h . At least you’ll feel better after hour massage, and if they are good at edging you , you’ll definitely get your mojo back .

[jamiekinkxxx]

I have to tell you it appears more and more difficult to find someone who is what they say, who offers what they say, who is available when they say, and who charges a reasonable price for what they offer.
I keep to what I say and am respectful. 
Is it really too much trouble to expect the same.

Think I’m done with this as the search for someone decent is too time consuming .

25 years and I’m nearly out.

You never retire from this hobby... you take a hiatus (again and again) that could last days, weeks or years, but once you have tasted the fruit of punting you never leave. Trust me... I am 22 years in... come and go...

However I do agree that since my last prolific time (circa 3-4 years ago), it has changed a great deal and it has changed beyond all recogition from what it was like in the early to late 00's (the golden years IMHO).

[jamiekinkxxx]

Agree also that AW has lost its way TBH.... it was always a minefield but had some gems. Fewer abd fewer of them, but as has been mentioned alot of that is no dount down to COVID and Brexit with lots of people leaving the country to either and see COVID through with friends and family (and lets face it UK didn't do very well at the start so dont blame them runnign fr the hills) or feel that life post Brexit is better of out of the UK.

[poulen]

I am more concearned with quality as of the last few years. I do not punt often and I take breaks between skirmishes (so to speak!).

My biggest issue is the quality of the girls on offer as well, mostly in terms of attitude. I am happy for the girls to stick to their likes and dislikes, I never want anyone to have to do things they really don't want to do.
But if you say you offer something, then do it well.

Another issue is the girls with attitude. If I want to do or not do specific things, as long as you are offering them, let me decide. I am the one paying after all. I can't stand pushy providers.

Overall, and to go back to the original point, I think a combination of COVID and Brexit has reduced the pool of available providers, allowing the remaining ones to take advantage when they can.

What I try and do now is split my punts into two categories. Half of them with safe providers I have used before and I know more or less what I will get, and half of my punts being with new providers. Taking a chance but also hoping of finding something new and exciting.

[workinallweek]

 I think the problem is some girls really are pricing themselves out of the market or thinking they are better than they really are .
they put up with moodey guys but didnt realise how moodey and fake some girls and theier profiles are .

in the past some good agencies ironed out the problems  but i guess everyones getting greedy .

[grandaddybadman]

I've been saying this for years. All the hot girls have gone to webcam, onlyfans, babestation  or any variation of the 3.

Covid and brexit didn't help but the writing was on the wall.

[lillythesavage]

I've been saying this for years. All the hot girls have gone to webcam, onlyfans, babestation  or any variation of the 3.

Covid and brexit didn't help but the writing was on the wall.

That is not the only reason, talking to young brits from all heritage I meet, the internet and social media has made it too easy to be stalked or exposed, that and all the hassles of premises, nosy neighbors, dodgy landlords, pimps, moody punters, advertising costs, laundry, utility bills, etc. In the online age they cannot be bothered with all that, easier to get a job where everyone thinks money comes from and meet from other media to top it up. 3 or 4 regs and the odd one off are enough for most. The only overheads they have is normal living expenses.

They come across as respectable with jobs to the outside world and have fun and money with little exposure to risk. Aw is just not what they want. They decide who they will meet, not just taking punters who call with money, it is a very different game these days.

[prelude141]

That is not the only reason, talking to young brits from all heritage I meet, the internet and social media has made it too easy to be stalked or exposed, that and all the hassles of premises, nosy neighbors, dodgy landlords, pimps, moody punters, advertising costs, laundry, utility bills, etc. In the online age they cannot be bothered with all that, easier to get a job where everyone thinks money comes from and meet from other media to top it up. 3 or 4 regs and the odd one off are enough for most. The only overheads they have is normal living expenses.

They come across as respectable with jobs to the outside world and have fun and money with little exposure to risk. Aw is just not what they want. They decide who they will meet, not just taking punters who call with money, it is a very different game these days.

Which ‘ other route’ are you referring to ? If this SA, it’s the same or nearly the same than other social media means of promoting pussies. Full of pro who pretend they are not and full of scams. Few gems but too much hassle and work to find 1 in 1000

[lillythesavage]

Which ‘ other route’ are you referring to ? If this SA, it’s the same or nearly the same than other social media means of promoting pussies. Full of pro who pretend they are not and full of scams. Few gems but too much hassle and work to find 1 in 1000

SA is not so bad, hard work but a more than a few genuine ones, not where I look now and posted too often where I do, few here have got on the bandwagon. Think I best calm it down lol, be none left for me, just this evening had a best part of 3 hours with a mixed race Amazonian, all 6 foot of her, travelled 90 minutes each way to me, for about the same as a decent EE for 30 minutes.
Young Brits of every heritage are out there, there is great company and good sex to be had, they just do not want to go the career and aw route, a job gives them the basics and cover for other things without a major fear of being outed. Online content gives them other options too. Aw does not appeal, asked loads why they do not try it and the answer is always just not for me. They do not want family and friends knowing or risking pics all over the net.

[blend57]

SA is not so bad, hard work but a more than a few genuine ones, not where I look now and posted too often where I do, few here have got on the bandwagon. Think I best calm it down lol, be none left for me, just this evening had a best part of 3 hours with a mixed race Axxxxxxian, all 6 foot of her, travelled 90 minutes each way to me, for about the same as a decent EE for 30 minutes.
Young Brits of every heritage are out there, there is great company and good sex to be had, they just do not want to go the career and aw route, a job gives them the basics and cover for other things without a major fear of being outed. Online content gives them other options too. Aw does not appeal, asked loads why they do not try it and the answer is always just not for me. They do not want family and friends knowing or risking pics all over the net.

Tinder seems to be another site that part time WGs use to connect with clients. I also suspect that if you asked the WGs they would not regard what they do a prostitution. They probably regard it as a form of dating where their expenses are covered by a sponsor.

[Jayj]

That is not the only reason, talking to young brits from all heritage I meet, the internet and social media has made it too easy to be stalked or exposed, that and all the hassles of premises, nosy neighbors, dodgy landlords, pimps, moody punters, advertising costs, laundry, utility bills, etc. In the online age they cannot be bothered with all that, easier to get a job where everyone thinks money comes from and meet from other media to top it up. 3 or 4 regs and the odd one off are enough for most. The only overheads they have is normal living expenses.

They come across as respectable with jobs to the outside world and have fun and money with little exposure to risk. Aw is just not what they want. They decide who they will meet, not just taking punters who call with money, it is a very different game these days.

Exactly this, I’ve found some exceptional SP’s who work this way one I’m seeing currently is fabulous she has a handful of punters who are reliable, respectful, clean tidy and decent she has a nice 9to5 and the this works well for her and the small number of guys who see her, she is low profile can work from home no overheads secure in knowing who’s coming round, she isn’t badly priced definitely below what you would pay on say AW for an hour with someone of this quality but that ensures we (punters) keep coming back.

[sensualencounter]

SA is not so bad, hard work but a more than a few genuine ones, not where I look now and posted too often where I do, few here have got on the bandwagon. Think I best calm it down lol, be none left for me, just this evening had a best part of 3 hours with a mixed race Axxxxxxian, all 6 foot of her, travelled 90 minutes each way to me, for about the same as a decent EE for 30 minutes.
Young Brits of every heritage are out there, there is great company and good sex to be had, they just do not want to go the career and aw route, a job gives them the basics and cover for other things without a major fear of being outed. Online content gives them other options too. Aw does not appeal, asked loads why they do not try it and the answer is always just not for me. They do not want family and friends knowing or risking pics all over the net.

All great posts by you in this thread and you’ve hit the nail on the head. But I’d go one stage further and say that it is a societal issue as others have said but not all this nonsense about the yoof being entitled but that the real issue is still the stigmatisation of prostitution and that leads onto the entitlement of a lot of punters (men). You can see it all here on UKP - so many men are shocked and outraged that the escorts won’t fuck them for what THEY perceive as a fair price. And this is because a lot of men still look down on prostitutes as subservient and they’re “getting above their station”.

If it was a plumber that was charging a high price, then surely you’d look into why and find that he / she did a great job, was reliable, didn’t rip you off, tidied up and maybe even went above and beyond. And hence justified the higher price than a cheaper plumber. Alternatively, you might find that the plumber was just bang average but had a great marketing presence - jazzy website, word of mouth, everyone raving about him on the local Facebook pages etc. Or, finally , he was a complete cowboy and a chancer and you wouldn’t touch him with a barge pole.

Is this analogy ringing any bells?

And then to summarise, you end up choosing whether the service is worth it by choosing either “wow”, “hmm not sure what all the fuss is but he did the job” or “ what a scumbag, out to rip me off, never going back and I hope that he either improves drastically for others sake or goes out of business”. But nowhere in there is “ it’s a society issue, all these young plumbers are so entitled and are all prima donnas beyond their stations”. So why do so many men freely spout this shit about escorts? It’s their bodies, it’s their businesses, surely they can do what they want and us as punters can judge them by their service at the applicable price point, rather than the blanket subconscious (hopefully - else it’s far more sinister if it’s conscious) misogyny?

[Colston36]

It is harder perhaps for all the reasons given but not THAT hard if you do your research. I am astounded by how many clearly don't look at all the reviews here and - though far less credible - on AW.

I never see anyone without asking, in detail, if they do what I want. If they don't reply I ignore them. If they're not clear I ask again. I sometimes ask other members what their experiences were like - one of the great advantages of this excellent club. 

I can't recall the last time I wasted my time and money. When I began 6 years ago I didn't realise how important that is. Pleasure is a serious business to me.

[Home Alone]

Good post Lilly.

... ... ... ...

It’s what I was attempting to say earlier. No need to retire. Just stick to your inner quality control 

Totally agree with this. In addition to seeing my Regular who knows what buttons to push, there are enough good experienced SPs in my part of the world - the North and the occasional visit to the Midlands - and in my sector of the punting market - the attractive MILF offering a good GFE - to supplement visits to my Regular when I'm feeling affluent.

[lillythesavage]

All great posts by you in this thread and you’ve hit the nail on the head. But I’d go one stage further and say that it is a societal issue as others have said but not all this nonsense about the yoof being entitled but that the real issue is still the stigmatisation of prostitution and that leads onto the entitlement of a lot of punters (men). You can see it all here on UKP - so many men are shocked and outraged that the escorts won’t fuck them for what THEY perceive as a fair price. And this is because a lot of men still look down on prostitutes as subservient and they’re “getting above their station”.

If it was a plumber that was charging a high price, then surely you’d look into why and find that he / she did a great job, was reliable, didn’t rip you off, tidied up and maybe even went above and beyond. And hence justified the higher price than a cheaper plumber. Alternatively, you might find that the plumber was just bang average but had a great marketing presence - jazzy website, word of mouth, everyone raving about him on the local Facebook pages etc. Or, finally , he was a complete cowboy and a chancer and you wouldn’t touch him with a barge pole.

Is this analogy ringing any bells?

And then to summarise, you end up choosing whether the service is worth it by choosing either “wow”, “hmm not sure what all the fuss is but he did the job” or “ what a scumbag, out to rip me off, never going back and I hope that he either improves drastically for others sake or goes out of business”. But nowhere in there is “ it’s a society issue, all these young plumbers are so entitled and are all prima donnas beyond their stations”. So why do so many men freely spout this shit about escorts? It’s their bodies, it’s their businesses, surely they can do what they want and us as punters can judge them by their service at the applicable price point, rather than the blanket subconscious (hopefully - else it’s far more sinister if it’s conscious) misogyny?

The stigma and anti prostitution thing is what I was trying to explain but the stigma word did not come into my head, that is what they tell me, having a job and doing it as and when is far less difficult than no job and having money.

The social aspect affects things too, very few young women live alone, either with family or in shared rented homes, having no job and spending money would soon have people putting 2+2 together. There is also the social media making it far too easy to track what friends and family do and where they go. One mistake or wrong picture posted and they out themselves.

When I meet these young British girls, more so a first time, for several hours there is a good bit of conversation, some of them are very well educated and heading for big money jobs, every single one is in full time employment or part time and studying and career prostitution is not the easy option maybe once was.

While many punters think the internet has made things easier, it has for years, the ever increasing tech many use here to search pictures, link social media, search for friends you think may also be providers, all things like that are now working against you, stopping the natural flow of new young Brits to AW, along with stigma and a changing social country.

Young women willing and able to make money from their pussy have not suddenly stopped appearing, they just go about it a different way, with a job for cover, like everything else punting is evolving, you can sit and wait in hope, moan on here as much as you like, but I do not believe AW is ever going to attract many young British girls again and those that do find the way there may not be there for long and have less competition so can ask increased prices and keep increasing until they find the maximum punters will pay.

[lillythesavage]

Totally agree with this. In addition to seeing my Regular who knows what buttons to push, there are enough good experienced SPs in my part of the world - the North and the occasional visit to the Midlands - and in my sector of the punting market - the attractive MILF offering a good GFE - to supplement visits to my Regular when I'm feeling affluent.

You can find good fun older women in most areas and that is where I look if I need to use Aw, the general moaning and posting is that there are very few young British women coming through, and when they do, the prices are ever increasing, it will because there is less competition and punters are paying it, market forces dictate.

They are still coming through, young women willing and able to use their body to make money has not suddenly stopped, they just want to keep it private and look perfectly respectable to the outside world, friends and family.

Plastering pictures, phone numbers and descriptions on AW for perves to search every aspect and dig info on them is not the way they want to go.

Someone posted when I said I was meeting blind last night, " back to pre internet days"  The internet is still where you find them, just not in the usual way, ever increasing tech is actually chasing young British girls away from the likes of AW.

[signy]

It is harder perhaps for all the reasons given but not THAT hard if you do your research. I am astounded by how many clearly don't look at all the reviews here and - though far less credible - on AW.

I never see anyone without asking, in detail, if they do what I want. If they don't reply I ignore them. If they're not clear I ask again. I sometimes ask other members what their experiences were like - one of the great advantages of this excellent club. 

I can't recall the last time I wasted my time and money. When I began 6 years ago I didn't realise how important that is. Pleasure is a serious business to me.

A lot of truth there Colston. I would just add that if you do your background research and then, for some reason, you can't see your chosen escort, then DON'T rush off to a substitute. We see too many negative reviews on here when punters start off with "she was my plan B or C or D...". Of course, sometimes you get a pleasant surprise from random punting, but odds are not in your favour. Instead, take a step back, save your money and start the process again.

Edit. To add that I think that Colston (like me) is interested in specialist services, and that makes research and confirmation doubly important. If your chosen punt is a P&D or quick fuck, then you have a better chance of getting what you want by random punting.

[redfox_uk]

I'm in a similar mind-set at the moment but for different reasons. I'm past mid 50 now and my attitudes and desires are shifting. For the last 15 years or so I've punted in parlours as I really needed regular sex and that worked well. Lockdown has shown me that over the last few years it has been habit over desire - I still enjoyed the encounters but I didn't *need* them. Since lockdown eased I haven't returned to the parlour scene; I tried a massage with HE but that doesn't really work for me. On the plus side I've saved a fortune over the last 15 months or so.

[itk]

I think quite possibly it’s a case of just getting older and becoming more interested in quality over quantity.
I know I am and it’s nothing to do with just not fancying a punt as much as I did.
It’s because I’m more selective and definitely more critical of what’s on offer.

Spot on. Sums me up perfectly at the moment

[rhubarb]

Edit. To add that I think that Colston (like me) is interested in specialist services, and that makes research and confirmation doubly important. If your chosen punt is a P&D or quick fuck, then you have a better chance of getting what you want by random punting.

Thanks for this, it gave me something to think over. I'd come on tonight to rant about how impossible things are, how broken the system is, but now I think maybe it's just because I'm after something a little specialist that might need a little preparation by the WG and it's just easier for them not to bother any more. If I just wanted a quick fuck, I'd probably manage fine, but since there seem to be so many guys willing to pay big money for very basic sex, why bother with anything more complex?

The reason I'm moaning? I had almost a month to set up a punt recently, and yet still found myself with no booking on the day. I only look for one service that many WGs have as a 'like', and I've used the same routine to book this service which worked fine all these years (albeit very infrequently in the last few).

My experience was wildly different this month though. Of the few that bothered to reply at all, few would really confirm a booking that far in advance, preferring me to call on the day etc. Or once it came to confirming services, they just went silent. Others decided they didn't actually really like doing this service after agreeing times and dates (picture me yelling at my computer 'them why did you FUCKING ADVERTISE IT THEN!).

Maybe WGs just don't need to bother doing anything they need the slightest preparation for. Someone else will pay 100+ quid just to have a fuck so why bother any more?

If it's just going to be like this from now on, I might be getting forced into punting retirement unwillingly.

[Home Alone]

I'm in a similar mind-set at the moment but for different reasons. I'm past mid 50 now and my attitudes and desires are shifting. For the last 15 years or so I've punted in parlours as I really needed regular sex and that worked well. Lockdown has shown me that over the last few years it has been habit over desire - I still enjoyed the encounters but I didn't *need* them. Since lockdown eased I haven't returned to the parlour scene; I tried a massage with HE but that doesn't really work for me. On the plus side I've saved a fortune over the last 15 months or so.

I'm sure you and I - and many other punters - have benefitted from that 'compulsory savings scheme', as I've thought of lockdown, redfox.

And an interesting side-effect of that for me was the realization that I had more money in the bank than at any time since before I first met the OH 39 years ago, long before my first-ever punt!

Which led me to thinking back to the younger, carefree Home Alone and some of the ambitions and hopes I had in the 1980s. Like really quite big holidays - to the Caribbean or Easter Island for example, which are back within reach. With the way the Air travel industry looks after its mobility-impaired customers these days, destinations like those are distinctly do-able for me.

And suddenly, punting in the Uk slides slightly down the list of priorities.

[king tarzan]

Not yet
But that day looms

[workinallweek]

 every time i get the hump and think this is the last one

 then you get a good one turn up  .

trouble is the bad ones tend to come in threes   

[lillythesavage]

I'm sure you and I - and many other punters - have benefitted from that 'compulsory savings scheme', as I've thought of lockdown, redfox.

And an interesting side-effect of that for me was the realization that I had more money in the bank than at any time since before I first met the OH 39 years ago, long before my first-ever punt!

Which led me to thinking back to the younger, carefree Home Alone and some of the ambitions and hopes I had in the 1980s. Like really quite big holidays - to the Caribbean or Easter Island for example, which are back within reach. With the way the Air travel industry looks after its mobility-impaired customers these days, destinations like those are distinctly do-able for me.

And suddenly, punting in the Uk slides slightly down the list of priorities.


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I read with envy at times, the posts of massive savings caused by the pandemic having had quite the opposite. Sure others do to.

Though my lack of saving had a lot more to do with it giving me excuses not to work and play more often, there have been lots of bored young women, on furlough, not getting full income, missing tips and bonuses they may have got on top and having more bills to pay by being at home, more so through the winter. I cannot complain, self inflicted and had a good bit of fun, being reasonably ​fit and healthy, having a mild dose of Covid early on and before the first lockdown I have not been worried by it at all.

The choice between visiting the world rather than punting in the UK has been a cause of the green eyed monster giving myself a kick in the ass though, and a few regrets 

[Stevelondon]

I'm sure you and I - and many other punters - have benefitted from that 'compulsory savings scheme', as I've thought of lockdown, redfox.

And an interesting side-effect of that for me was the realization that I had more money in the bank than at any time since before I first met the OH 39 years ago, long before my first-ever punt!

Which led me to thinking back to the younger, carefree Home Alone and some of the ambitions and hopes I had in the 1980s. Like really quite big holidays - to the Caribbean or Easter Island for example, which are back within reach. With the way the Air travel industry looks after its mobility-impaired customers these days, destinations like those are distinctly do-able for me.

And suddenly, punting in the Uk slides slightly down the list of priorities.

The problem for me would be that if I were heading off to some exotic far distant place (I frequently did pre covid)......discounting Easter island ....I'd probably want to see what the punting was like. 

[dynatron]

as a punter who is nearly 61 and has been punting since around 19 or so i rarely punt anymore and  tend to agree with original poster pherhaps its my age i realy dont know but i i seem to remember the days when it was easy to find a good punt-you had no internet then no sites where you could see reviews or even pictures but in general the quality of services was good and you were under the impression that the ladies actually cared and enjoyed pleasing-that phase seems to have gone now

[Home Alone]

This thread kind-of makes it feel like our pastime might be dividing into two: what with the younger punters embracing modern technology to find women willing to sell sex; while older punters like me are content enough to find our pleasures on the pages of AW.

Given the way that the way of accessing SPs has altered so much since the days of adverts in, e.g. the Sport, and adverts in phone boxes, it'll be interesting to see how this divide develops. Will the younger punters move onto AW as a way of finding SPs as they - the punters, that is - move into middle age?

[lillythesavage]

This thread kind-of makes it feel like our pastime might be dividing into two: what with the younger punters embracing modern technology to find women willing to sell sex; while older punters like me are content enough to find our pleasures on the pages of AW.

Given the way that the way of accessing SPs has altered so much since the days of adverts in, e.g. the Sport, and adverts in phone boxes, it'll be interesting to see how this divide develops. Will the younger punters move onto AW as a way of finding SPs as they - the punters, that is - move into middle age?

To put some context to this, I am very nearly 60, I posted this on another thread, during lockdown I tried other ways of punting and not had a bad one since, except a few very average AW pump and dumps.

For several reasons and the wife being around more often it was looking bleak for a few months, being quite tied to home, and when getting out to work, the wife having to be here, and not rushing off.

Last Friday evening I had the opportunity but only at my place, emailed someone I had briefly exchanged an email chat with, she sent her number and we had a phone chat, game on.

Totally blind, except age and race each way, which are very different, she came straight from work, met her at the station, like a punt we both had minutes to decide yes or no. It was a resounding yes all round and a great time, she apologized for having to leave to meet friends, almost 3 hours after arriving, and the next one was arranged while she was in the pub with her friends.

I have also said on other threads much the same as your split thinking, particularly for young British girls AW holds little appeal and in this social media internet world privacy is hard to keep, one slip and they risk being outed. Punting is evolving, AW is dying, and the less on it, there more they want and can afford to not perform .Demand is outstripping supply, particularly for young Brits of every heritage.
They are still coming through, they always will, but going about it differently and part time, with a job giving the outside world and their friends and family no clue. Plastering pictures on the internet, lying to everyone they know usually, is not a path many are prepared to take.

[Payyourwaymate]

This thread kind-of makes it feel like our pastime might be dividing into two: what with the younger punters embracing modern technology to find women willing to sell sex; while older punters like me are content enough to find our pleasures on the pages of AW.

Given the way that the way of accessing SPs has altered so much since the days of adverts in, e.g. the Sport, and adverts in phone boxes, it'll be interesting to see how this divide develops. Will the younger punters move onto AW as a way of finding SPs as they - the punters, that is - move into middle age?

I think if I have understood your post right I can answer that for myself personally speaking. I reckon for me personally once I get older, I will just go abroad to buy sex to be honest. Seen too many reports on ISG of middle aged and older men living like kings in countries where £££££, $$$$$ or € € € € € €  goes further with prime youthful women. Much better than dealing with the drift and drab in the UK of out of prime women overcharging and offering terrible service in my opinion. Although, such an idea would only work if one had little responsiblities, good health and finances. I could not imagine a married man with kids trying to monger abroad for extended periods of time.

[workinallweek]

I think if I have understood your post right I can answer that for myself personally speaking. I reckon for me personally once I get older, I will just go abroad to buy sex to be honest. Seen too many reports on ISG of middle aged and older men living like kings in countries where £££££, $$$$$ or € € € € € €  goes further with prime youthful women. Much better than dealing with the drift and drab in the UK of out of prime women overcharging and offering terrible service in my opinion. Although, such an idea would only work if one had little responsiblities, good health and finances. I could not imagine a married man with kids trying to monger abroad for extended periods of time.

 not a bad idea  just need a hobby to take you away every few months 

[Home Alone]

I think if I have understood your post right I can answer that for myself personally speaking. I reckon for me personally once I get older, I will just go abroad to buy sex to be honest. Seen too many reports on ISG of middle aged and older men living like kings in countries where £££££, $$$$$ or € € € € € €  goes further with prime youthful women. Much better than dealing with the drift and drab in the UK of out of prime women overcharging and offering terrible service in my opinion. Although, such an idea would only work if one had little responsiblities, good health and finances. I could not imagine a married man with kids trying to monger abroad for extended periods of time.

I fear you've come up with that idea a few years too late for me, Payyourwaymate!

I can make two of your categories - my health's only 'reasonable'; but I have no siblings, spouse nor children; and an income in retirement which would presumably stretch further in one of the countries you have in mind.

The only snag for me would be a very prosaic one: learning a new language at this stage of my life. I've been told I'm fluffy; so I'd want to be able to bill and coo in the same language as the young - younger than me, anyway! - woman!

[Payyourwaymate]

I fear you've come up with that idea a few years too late for me, Payyourwaymate!

I can make two of your categories - my health's only 'reasonable'; but I have no siblings, spouse nor children; and an income in retirement which would presumably stretch further in one of the countries you have in mind.

The only snag for me would be a very prosaic one: learning a new language at this stage of my life. I've been told I'm fluffy; so I'd want to be able to bill and coo in the same language as the young - younger than me, anyway! - woman!

Ah I see, fair enough.

[Happiness]

The more I have done the less appealing it is. My standards have gone up / got more precise looks wise. Unless the service is very good I don't try to rebook regardless of appearance. Rather than retiring just do it as a part time hobby when you really get the urge to book someone or try to find a regular that's happy to see you multiple times. Some reviews would be helpful, you've done 1. Even if it takes a while for you to get the hang of reviewing any intel is useful for all parties.