Does anyone know about this? A doctor in the house?

[Colston36]

A girl I met a few months ago (not an escort - actually a photographer, but she has her moments) told me about PrEP.

It's supposed to guard against infection, though I have not caught a damn thing since 51 years ago.

Please only reply if you have tried it or actually know anything; we have a more than adequate supply of opinionated know-nothings on here.

[Goldfinch]

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[freeze44]

we have a more than adequate supply of opinionated know-nothings on here.

Don't be so harsh on yourself 

[pewpewpew]

After a bit of a scare a few years back I was booked in for an emergency visit to the GUM clinic (called 111 and they phoned ahead to make sure I got seen). I asked about prep and they were against issuing it to me as I did not know if the girl actually had AIDS or what her viral load was. He explained that there are many side effects such as liver and kidney failure and weighed up against the chance of me catching HIV from an unknown, the risk from prep was greater than doing nothing other than regular tests.

From what he said, prep is mostly used for nurses/doctors who come into contact with HIV+ patients and some definite contamination occurs.

This is all from what he said of course. Maybe it's just expensive and he didn't want me to have it

[daviemac]

Please only reply if you have tried it or actually know anything; we have a more than adequate supply of opinionated know-nothings on here.

Are you for real, this is an anonymous punting forum and you want genuine medical advice.     Talk to those you know are qualified to answer, or look at reliable websites such as NHS.

[Colston36]

Don't be so harsh on yourself 

Takes one to spot one

[Colston36]

Are you for real, this is an anonymous punting forum and you want genuine medical advice.     Talk to those you know are qualified to answer, or look at reliable websites such as NHS.

There is at least one doctor among our number; and in the time I have been following things a great many questions have been posed about such matters

[winkywanky]

I'm sure Doc Holliday will be along in a bit.

But he'd probably tell you to check on the NHS website too (in addition to a few very useful comments, as per usual).

One thing to note with PrEP though, is to beware of SPs who flaunt the fact that they use it. This probably means that they have a cavalier attitude to bareback because they think that HIV/AIDS can't kill them. Well yes that's true (even without PrEP, retroviral drugs are very good these days), but it also means that they are a STI car crash waiting to happen, with all the other nasty shit that's going around including drug-resistant strains of gonorrhea.

Also worth noting that if they are that thick, they're probably buying the stuff from an unreliable source for peanuts, and their regime for taking the stuff is as flaky as hell.

[freeze44]

There is at least one doctor among our number; and in the time I have been following things a great many questions have been posed about such matters

Of course! And I'm a flying dutch man  Go on takes one to spot one! Such wit! 

[daviemac]

There is at least one doctor among our number; and in the time I have been following things a great many questions have been posed about such matters

There is at least one who claims to be a doctor, however you answered your own question with this - "we have a more than adequate supply of opinionated know-nothings on here." Nobody knows for sure what anybody does.

In my own personal opinion, and I've said this before, anybody who asks for and or takes notice of medical advice, given on an anonymous punting forum, that could cause you serious health issues is an idiot.

My advice is always the same, anything to do with medical issues consult the professionals and I mean those who you know are professionals. We are all different, what is fine for one might not be for another. As an example, I take statins and I believe the most common prescribed are Atorvastatin because of less restrictions, they can be taken at any time and small amounts of grapefruit juice is allowed. However I have an allergic reaction to them so I have to take Simvastatin which carry the restriction of having to be taken at night and no grapefruit juice at all is allowed. 

That is just one example of how different things affect different people. Your choice of course.   

[winkywanky]

Doc Holliday is a bona fide doctor, and he's worth listening to.

One or two other 'pretenders', but they normally get caught out.

Oh, and of course we mustn't forget the Google Kings, people who know shit, look on the internet, repeat it parrot-fashion as if they knew it all along, whereas infact they've completely misinterpreted it, yet presented it as fact. There's loads of them  .

(That's not me by the way  )

[winkywanky]

There is at least one who claims to be a doctor, however you answered your own question with this - "we have a more than adequate supply of opinionated know-nothings on here." Nobody knows for sure what anybody does.

In my own personal opinion, and I've said this before, anybody who asks for and or takes notice of medical advice, given on an anonymous punting forum, that could cause you serious health issues is an idiot.

My advice is always the same, anything to do with medical issues consult the professionals and I mean those who you know are professionals. We are all different, what is fine for one might not be for another. As an example, I take statins and I believe the most common prescribed are Atorvastatin because of less restrictions, they can be taken at any time and small amounts of grapefruit juice is allowed. However I have an allergic reaction to them so I have to take Simvastatin which carry the restriction of having to be taken at night and no grapefruit juice at all is allowed. 

That is just one example of how different things affect different people. Your choice of course.   

All very true. Especially the bit in bold.

[daviemac]

Doc Holliday is a bona fide doctor, and he's worth listening to.

May or may not be, but I think I'll take my advice from someone sitting in front of me with their qualifications hanging on the wall and who has full access to my medical history.   

If he is a genuine doctor his advice should always be the same, discuss it with someone who knows your medical history.

[freeze44]

Doc Holliday is a bona fide doctor, and he's worth listening to.

One or two other 'pretenders', but they normally get caught out.

Oh, and of course we mustn't forget the Google Kings, people who know shit, look on the internet, repeat it parrot-fashion as if they knew it all along, whereas infact they've completely misinterpreted it, yet presented it as fact. There's loads of them  .

(That's not me by the way  )

Up to you WW but no way am I listening to anyone who claims to be a doctor, nurse, airline pilot etc on this forum!

Seriously why come here looking for such advice?? 

[winkywanky]

May or may not be, but I think I'll take my advice from someone sitting in front of me with their qualifications hanging on the wall and who has full access to my medical history.   

If he is a genuine doctor his advice should always be the same, discuss it with someone who knows your medical history.

Very true, and depending on what the query is, he's always at pains to say that.

For broad, general enquiries about medical matters he is a very helpful contributor.

[winkywanky]

Up to you WW but no way am I listening to anyone who claims to be a doctor, nurse, airline pilot etc on this forum!

Seriously why come here looking for such advice?? 

People have general queries they like to air sometimes, even just to talk with others like they might do down the pub. It depends what the question is, and the context in which it's asked.

If someone says they have a nasty rash and it 'looks like this' or 'my heart feels funny when I lay down' then obviously they should see their doctor. For example there was someone on here telling a questioner that palpitations were 'normal', he'd had the same, his doctor told him there was no problem, so therefore there was nothing to worry about. Clearly that is frankly insane, and anyone saying that is bonkers (he's a longstanding member on here BTW).

If someone is asking general questions I see that as different, but if it's important then yes of course they should talk to a professional.

Unless he's a bloody good faker the Doc is for real and will helpfully get involved in general health/medical chat. But he'd be the first to say talk to a professional or see your own doctor if it's an issue specific to you. He's also good at debunking bollocks.

[winkywanky]

The other thing to consider of course, is whether someone is what/who they say they are.

Personally I think the Doc is for real. There was an incident recently where another chap intimated he was a doctor but then was easily shot down in flames by a couple of questions. I won't say who it was, but he's been posting today  .

Of course it's for everyone to judge who they decide to trust on here. I'd say it's normally pretty obvious who those people are (even if they're good bullshitters).

[freeze44]

The other thing to consider of course, is whether someone is what/who they say they are.

Personally I think the Doc is for real. There was an incident recently where another chap intimated he was a doctor but then was easily shot down in flames by a couple of questions. I won't say who it was, but he's been posting today  .

Of course it's for everyone to judge who they decide to trust on here. I'd say it's normally pretty obvious who those people are (even if they're good bullshitters).

Ok and get things like general info on things connected to punting but we know very little about each other and that's the best way as why give any info out about yourself esp on the public forum?

[winkywanky]

Well for a start I wouldn't ask your advice on punctuation, I got halfway through your post and ran out of breath before reaching the end  .

But I think I get your drift.

Well some people are more staunchly anonymous than others, and for differing reasons. Everyone's situation is different.

To 'out' yourself as a doctor for example, is hardly giving much away, even with the location of your punts.

[freeze44]

Well for a start I wouldn't ask your advice on punctuation, I got halfway through your post and ran out of breath before reaching the end  .

But I think I get your drift.

Well some people are more staunchly anonymous than others, and for differing reasons. Everyone's situation is different.

To 'out' yourself as a doctor for example, is hardly giving much away, even with the location of your punts.

  One sentence!  You may need medical help if the punctuation doing that to you! Is it because you got....tripped up on the other thread?? 

Well think we going to have to agree to disagree on this one. Not a good idea to expose yourself in my book.

[winkywanky]

I'm not going to expose myself in your book, I didn't even know you were writing one, and where did you get that fucking photo of me anyway?!!   

[freeze44]

I'm not going to expose myself in your book, I didn't even know you were writing one, and where did you get that fucking photo of me anyway?!!   

  you a well know deviant! That's why we like you!   

[Colston36]

I'm not going to expose myself in your book, I didn't even know you were writing one, and where did you get that fucking photo of me anyway?!!   

Stop causing trouble, you scamp, or I show the other one!

[B4bcock]

It's a pity how this thread has developed.  I have never heard of PReP and would be interested to learn more about it, which I think was Colston's original intention, before he got hauled over the coals.

[mr.bluesky]

Doc Holliday is a bona fide doctor, and he's worth listening to.

Nah Doc Holliday is a bit of a cowboy if you ask me 

[B4bcock]

Nah Doc Holliday is a bit of a cowboy if you ask me 

 

I believe the original Doc Holliday was also an alcoholic.

[daviemac]

It's a pity how this thread has developed.  I have never heard of PReP and would be interested to learn more about it, which I think was Colston's original intention, before he got hauled over the coals.

Unless you're in a high risk of HIV group I'm not surprised you haven't heard of it.

[winkywanky]

Nah Doc Holliday is a bit of a cowboy if you ask me 

Ouch! 

[winkywanky]

 

I believe the original Doc Holliday was also an alcoholic.

He was, and he also suffered from (and died of?) TB.

[Doc Holliday]

Nah Doc Holliday is a bit of a cowboy if you ask me 

Yee-haw

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As Davie hints at above .. PrEP will be relevant to very few people reading this as you are unlikely to fall into a high risk group. The latter criteria in addition to where in the UK you live will decide its availability on the NHS. You can of course purchase it online.

The NHS site is not particularly useful but these links are worth reading if you want to know more.

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[B4bcock]

Unless you're in a high risk of HIV group I'm not surprised you haven't heard of it.

Aren't most of us punters classified as relatively high risk of HIV?

[Doc Holliday]

Aren't most of us punters classified as relatively high risk of HIV?

No

[B4bcock]

Phew

[Doc Holliday]

I should also add there is a negative side to the development of PrEP in that many in those high risk groups ie MSM, see its use as an excuse to revert to risky activity eg unprotected anal etc.

[Doc Holliday]

You can of course purchase it online.

Just to clarify and before Davie pulls me up  ... I was pointing out that it is possible to purchase it online and not that you should!

[Watts.E.Dunn]

There is a usefull source of information that does not come from medical pros and thats a type of clinical observation thats where someone might ask does the "xxx" type of medication give you any particalar side effects and that is normally vaild asking the population that do take said medication.

Course its not a 1000% accurate as they may have existing conditions that skew that result they may/ may not be taking other drugs that cause contraindications etc but in the main it is a usefull source of information.

Espically here where there are a lot more ED medication users than most any other forum.  Such questions as does Viagra work any better or worse woth 10 pints of badgers arse bitter than with a mahoosive burger and fries consumed just before taking such med (OK wild exaggeration) but there is an absorption time window for best results  such as does ED's obtained from "xyz" supplier as good as "zyx" supplier and the like.

Course since BB'ing some street gal my knobs gone all mauve and green, very differn matter;!


But if anyone here at the moment has any good advice on what to do with the mutherfecker of all colds, then all advice wellcome:)

But they'll be none better that that given to me by a vet some years ago!;

A cold will last a week if you treat it - and Seven days if you don't:(

[Jonestown]

Aren't most of us punters classified as relatively high risk of HIV?

Probably just those who swing to the TS side.

[BobAJobMan]

PrEP was designed to be used by promiscuous gay men who wouldn't or often didn't use condoms, just to try and cut down their risk of catching or transmitting HIV. Anyone who has occasional, protected vaginal sex doesn't need it. Anal sex is riskier, but even then more so for the receiver, and only if the condom breaks.

[mr.bluesky]

A cold will last a week if you treat it - and Seven days if you don't:(

Last time I looked at my calender there was seven days in a week.    Cold cures generally  are a waste of money . All they do is ease the symptoms of a cold. Despite the wonderful advancement in modern day medicine a cure for the common cold has yet to be found.( As I'm sure the very knowledgeable Doc Holliday will agree with).

[theejaculator]

A girl I met a few months ago (not an escort - actually a photographer, but she has her moments) told me about PrEP.

It's supposed to guard against infection, though I have not caught a damn thing since 51 years ago.

Please only reply if you have tried it or actually know anything; we have a more than adequate supply of opinionated know-nothings on here.

More to the point....why would a woman tell u about this stuff?

Secondly why are you so interested....do you think you need it?

Are you looking for a 'shield ' so you can go on a bb adventure?

[millbush]

Two local SPs to me advertise using this,to what end I'm not sure.

[GingerNuts]

Last time I looked at my calender there was seven days in a week.    Cold cures generally  are a waste of money . All they do is ease the symptoms of a cold. Despite the wonderful advancement in modern day medicine a cure for the common cold has yet to be found.( As I'm sure the very knowledgeable Doc Holliday will agree with).

You've explained the point of the advice yourself. A cold will run the same one week/seven day course whatever "cure" you take.

[Colston36]

More to the point....why would a woman tell u about this stuff?

Secondly why are you so interested....do you think you need it?

Are you looking for a 'shield ' so you can go on a bb adventure?

What are you, the thought police?

But since you ask, rather than tell you to mind your own business:

I met her at an event in Poland. She is a successful photographer, rich family, very flirtatious, a bit crazy, and seems to have a complicated social/sexual life. She told me about the product. I suspect it was indeed an overture of some kind.

I like the helpful information on here and some of the very entertaining comments, but I am astonished at the aggressive reactions.

[Doc Holliday]

Two local SPs to me advertise using this,to what end I'm not sure.

Surely as a Doctor you could make an educated guess?

[Doc Holliday]

After a bit of a scare a few years back I was booked in for an emergency visit to the GUM clinic (called 111 and they phoned ahead to make sure I got seen). I asked about prep and they were against issuing it to me as I did not know if the girl actually had AIDS or what her viral load was. He explained that there are many side effects such as liver and kidney failure and weighed up against the chance of me catching HIV from an unknown, the risk from prep was greater than doing nothing other than regular tests.

From what he said, prep is mostly used for nurses/doctors who come into contact with HIV+ patients and some definite contamination occurs.

This is all from what he said of course. Maybe it's just expensive and he didn't want me to have it

Apologies I have read through the thread again and didn't read your post properly. What I think you are referring to here is not PrEP (ie pre exposure drug regime) but PEP which is post exposure treatment. Similar risk group criteria will apply, but may also be considered for healthcare workers who may have been exposed .... for example following a needle stick injury.

[Doc Holliday]

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Sceptical and certainly won't be in my lifetime. I no longer get colds anyway 

[winkywanky]

Probably just those who swing to the TS side.

As someone who's developed a bit of a TS habit of late, I would tend to agree with that. However the only thing I do bare is oral (given half a chance) and I don't receive anal. So I don't feel I'm dicing with death.

Whoever we are on here, we all mitigate risk against pleasure to personally acceptable levels, in our own way.

[winkywanky]

A cold will last a week if you treat it - and Seven days if you don't:(

You can get hold of anti-virals now, which will help treat/lessen a cold if you catch it early enough. Very expensive though, and I don't know whether they're generally available over the counter yet?

I think perhaps this is a by-product of the research that's gone into treatment/prevention of HIV, but I don't know?

[workinallweek]

  possibly Tail seeker would have some imformation ...

[winkywanky]

No doubt she would, but she's no longer around, sadly  .