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[Dime]

Tomorrow I've booked a punt with a girl in the hotel I'm staying in (alone  obviously ). I wondered if there was any protocol?
For example, should I text/WhatsApp her the room number or go to reception or hotel bar and meet her?
I'm also a bit worried about reception staff spotting her even if she is discreetly dressedor people in other rooms hearing us once we get down to business. Any advice would be appreciated.

[Rochelle]

Tomorrow I've booked a punt with a girl in the hotel I'm staying in (alone  obviously ). I wondered if there was any protocol?
For example, should I text/WhatsApp her the room number or go to reception or hotel bar and meet her?
I'm also a bit worried about reception staff spotting her even if she is discreetly dressedor people in other rooms hearing us once we get down to business. Any advice would be appreciated.

Tell her where the lifts are and tell her your room number. That way she walks in knowing where she's going. Staff don't pay anyone any attention unless they look lost.

[kamu]

Tell her where the lifts are and tell her your room number. That way she walks in knowing where she's going. Staff don't pay anyone any attention unless they look lost.

Or agree to meet her in the bar or outside if you dont want her having your room number straight away or if a key card is required for the lift.

What you do in the room is nobody elses business but yours and you would be incredibly unlucky if a fellow guest reported you for excessive noise .

[Corus Boy]

Or agree to meet her in the bar or outside if you dont want her having your room number straight away or if a key card is required for the lift.

What you do in the room is nobody elses business but yours and you would be incredibly unlucky if a fellow guest reported you for excessive noise .

Personally I would never go down and meet in the bar and definately not in the street.  I doubt they would be interested by with a stretch or the imagination and the law, you could be guilty of Soliciting.

I'm sure there are good reasons as to why girls who work from hotels have a set routine;

You phone and book, girl gives you the hotel name, you do your research as to where the hotel is, where the reception/lifts/coffee shop are.

When you arrive, you phone again and the girl gives you floor (floor number is really useful) and room number.

You tap on the door, she checks you out with the spyhole.

If she's happy, she lets you in.

To me it seems the logical procedure.

[billybobsmith]

I've phoned for a girl for an outcall just the once and luckily she turned out to be very nice.

Honestly though, unless I've seen the girl before, I would probably be slightly reluctant to give her my room number upfront.  There's no guarantee that she'll be who she says she is, or at the very least look that much like her pictures, and I'm sure most men won't scrutinise her through the keyhole first before opening the door, especially when horny.  At least if you meet in the bar or outside, if she turns out to be not quite what you were expecting, you can make a retreat without being forced into a corner i.e. if she's at your door, you're more likely to let her in either just to do the deed or to possibly avoid any scene.

[kamu]

Personally I would never go down and meet in the bar and definately not in the street.  I doubt they would be interested by with a stretch or the imagination and the law, you could be guilty of Soliciting.

I'm sure there are good reasons as to why girls who work from hotels have a set routine;

You phone and book, girl gives you the hotel name, you do your research as to where the hotel is, where the reception/lifts/coffee shop are.

When you arrive, you phone again and the girl gives you floor (floor number is really useful) and room number.

You tap on the door, she checks you out with the spyhole.

If she's happy, she lets you in.

To me it seems the logical procedure.

You cant be guilty of soliciting by meeting a guest and escorting them to your room.

The op is the one with the room not the pro$$ie. I think your getting confused.

[Corus Boy]

Solicitation of Prostitution

Solicitation of prostitution is technically the request to one person by another to perform a sexual act in exchange for a fee. However, an actual solicitation of prostitution charge usually encompasses a wider set of circumstances with harsher penalties and punishments than the basic charge. A person charged with solicitation of prostitution should understand the nature of these charges, the defenses, and all of the possible punishments before deciding how to resolve their case.

Solicitation of prostitution does not require a completed act of sexual conduct. The mere agreement or offer to complete a sexual act in exchange for a fee (i.e. money) is enough to support a solicitation charge. This also means that both parties to the agreement—the person offering a sexual service and the person accepting the service, can be charged with prostitution. This is the most basic type of solicitation charge. However, solicitation charges can encompass a broader type of conduct.

As I said it's "...with a stretch or the imagination and the law, you could be guilty of Soliciting..."

So if you meet her in the street/bar, say nothing and just take her to your room there is no solicitation, but if in casual conversation you should mention prices and/or services, and you were overheard I think you could be charged or held for questioning.

I repeat it is a stretch but I don't like unnecessary risks, let her walk in alone, it's not hard, unless you've chosen a 'keycarded' hotel.

[curry]

Solicitation of Prostitution

The mere agreement or offer to complete a sexual act in exchange for a fee (i.e. money) is enough to support a solicitation charge.

Does the law stretch to prior solicitation. Ie you make a booking on AW (fee for services) or you communicate via email/text prior to her turning up is that solicitation even if the even it to happen after the initial request.

[Gatchaman]

Tell her where the lifts are and tell her your room number. That way she walks in knowing where she's going. Staff don't pay anyone any attention unless they look lost.

Agreed, confidence is the key when walking into a hotel for a meet like this, either as a punter or a WG.  If you act like a guest no-one will question you.

Busy hotels with large lobby areas are generally fine as there are load of people coming and going.  At a recent meet in a small hotel, it was quiet when I went in, and the receptionist was out from behind the desk and by the front door, where she greeted me.  I was glad I knew where I was heading.  If I'd been looking around for the lifts, it could have led to awkward questions.

[TPreston]

up yo you. I'd just give room number and directions to your room myself.

If she's worried about being stopped I'd even tell reception your girlfriend is coming meeting you or tell her to say shes coming for an interview.

[Corus Boy]

Does the law stretch to prior solicitation. Ie you make a booking on AW (fee for services) or you communicate via email/text prior to her turning up is that solicitation even if the even it to happen after the initial request.

Who knows? Until it is tested in the courts it probably remains a grey area.

I would think that neither the Police or the CPS are interested in using sparse resources in persuing a 'no harm done' test case.

[Steely Dan]

I think the advice here is right.  A bit negative/scary but nothing wrong with reflecting on the worst case. 

One thing is to make sure you figuratively walk in from her point of view.  What are the landmarks, which way is left and right.  I find it annoying when escorts do not do this.   Like I call and tell her I am in front of the big fountain, and she never noticed the big fountain.

In terms of giving her your room, I think as long as there are no key cards this is fine and the best way. If she gets to your room and she is a munter, it is really not that hard to send her away. Punting is a sport for guys with balls after all.  If you can't say 'you are a bait and switch lier, goodbye' , nor a neutral, 'sorry I changed my mind, please go home', you could try the 'I don't know why you are here, no I didn't book an escort'.  All three might cost you a punting sim, but that is why you have a punting sim, init?

I have done a lobby meet.  It was no problem on the day either.

Hotel outcalls are certainly a bit more risky to privacy than incalls, but MUCH safer than home outcalls.  Worth it to me on occasion.

[intpro]

From my one experience with an outcall, i would definitely go meet her outside and walk her in. After giving the wg directions to the stairs, the reception staff still stopped her and requested room number and name.

She had to phone me in front of staff and ask my name which was rather embarrassing when checking out.

Also use fake details if you can.

[daviemac]

Does the law stretch to prior solicitation. Ie you make a booking on AW (fee for services) or you communicate via email/text prior to her turning up is that solicitation even if the even it to happen after the initial request.

The charge of soliciting is mainly aimed at streetwalkers and curbcrawlers, if you arrange the supply of sexual service from a prostitute in private then meeting her outside a hotel is not illegal any soliciting has already take place.

Soliciting in public has to be persistent ie occur more than once before charges can be brought.

Loitering or Soliciting for Prostitution
Section 16 of the Policing and Crime Act 2009 amends section 1(1) of the Street Offences Act 1959 to create an offence for a person (whether male or female) persistently to loiter or solicit in a street or public place for the purposes of offering services as a prostitute, with effect from 1 April 2010. The term "common prostitute" has now been removed.

Section 1(4) has been amended to insert that for the purposes of section 1, conduct is persistent if it takes place on 2 or more occasions in any period of 3 months.

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[Baldy]

Isn't part of the thrill having the girls find you room and knock on the door though ?

[billybobsmith]

In terms of giving her your room, I think as long as there are no key cards this is fine and the best way. If she gets to your room and she is a munter, it is really not that hard to send her away. Punting is a sport for guys with balls after all.  If you can't say 'you are a bait and switch lier, goodbye' , nor a neutral, 'sorry I changed my mind, please go home', you could try the 'I don't know why you are here, no I didn't book an escort'. 

It may not seem that hard but when you've prepared all day for this meet, are as horny as hell and possibly are standing to attention, us men don't always think with the brain up top.  Worse if I've paid for the room specifically to meet this girl and don't want to be wasting the £100 or whatever you may have paid for it.
The first time I did this I rang up a random agency ad in the phonebook, was told "we're sending a so-and-so 19yo girl around" and I had zero idea what to expect.  I was bricking it yet horny.  Opened the door when there was a knock on it without checking who it was and let her straight in.  Wasn't thinking about safety or anything much at that point.

As I said earlier, I feel hemmed in and I've no idea if rejecting her then and then is going to make her cause a scene i.e. screaming, shouting, accusing you of things etc. and I really wouldn't want to be put in that position. 
I would rather discretely check her out in the lobby or outside the hotel before letting her near my room.  At least that way I can avoid anything untoward and have a sanctuary.

If I've seen her before, fine.

Each to their own though.  I want to minimise the risk to myself and any possible embarrassment with regards to what I'm doing.  Generally to keep a low profile.

[Gordon Bennett]

If she does out calls she must have enough about her to find her way to a room in a hotel. Beyond ensuring it's not a hotel that needs a key card to move about in I'd just relax and let her find her way to you.

[hrm69]

Long time lurker here, felt this was worth the reply as had a couple of hotel experiences from both sides.

One a number of years ago where I visited a touring escort in a well known 4 star hotel in Belfast, was an early morning before work and I new the hotel fairly well so new where I was going and blended in with the early morning crowds. Second time was a about 2 years ago in an airport hotel. Was staying there with for a night on route to a flight connection and arrived about 11 and mangaed to get checked in early. Had pre arranged the booking with the girl in the hope I could get checked in ok. Quick text to see if she was still ok and gave her the room number and details and aksed her to dress discreetly (jeans or suck like). She arrived dressed in a ridiculous short dress and big bugger off high heels. Seemed to get past reception ok but would have imagined it would have been a bit obvious given it was a Wednesday morning. Booking went generally well apart from a 'cleaner' attempting to get into the room while I had her doggy style on the bed, thankfully I had put the door on the snib so they didn't get in. I'm convinced the 'cleaner' new exactly what they were doing given the lack of discreetness on the WG's part. 

[itk]

On the occasions I've done out calls to a hotel, I agreed to meet outside the hotel first. Saved me the first time because the parlour that sent the girl was different to the one I'd booked and I didn't like the look of her so sent her on her way.
Second girl was spot on, so approached her and we walked past reception without problems. Was great seeing her getting dressed and having to leave whilst I stayed naked in bed 

[TheRuiner]

Check out the hotel before deciding on the best course of action regarding the WG accessing your room as what may work well in one could be impossible in another. If it has a busy lobby with the lifts immediately in front as you walk in and no keycards to access lift/floors then just give her straightforward instructions when she calls to let you know she's arrived. If however, it's a small quiet reception, a keycard-operated lift, ANY travelodge or the WG seems particularly hesitant or dim, have her wait outside in her car, a nearby bus stop or if suitably busy the hotel bar/coffe shop and collect her. If waiting outside is the most sensible option make sure you tell her where to wait and make sure it's not on the hotel cctv. Yes, totally obvious that hanging around outside the hotel entrance doors anxiously peeping from phone to direction of lifts constantly in thick make up, sexy dress and shag-me shoes a few feet away from a bored, jobsworth reception is likely to draw attention to the situation, some WG's really are surprisingly dumb with matters you'd assume them to be well-versed in. Personally, if I hadnt met the girl previously I'd prefer a chance to check them out by meeting in a busy hotel bar, giving me the opportunity to quietly bail if she was less than expected.

[RedKettle]

I generally wait in the room for them to arrive. Have met outside before but it can be confusing when a couple of you are waiting at the same time. Also annoying if it turns out they have booked a far better looking girl. 

[TheRuiner]

I generally wait in the room for them to arrive. Have met outside before but it can be confusing when a couple of you are waiting at the same time. Also annoying if it turns out they have booked a far better looking girl. 

This hasn't happened to me personally (for which I'm glad as it could be just the thing to draw nosey hotel staff) but I do remember the infamous Copthorne Tara having a bit of a crackdown a few years ago. I was there as a guest for a couple of nights and they'd positioned a member of staff on the lifts to query everyone trying to enter which room number they were going to and checking the name quoted was correct against their booking list print out 
I did punt while staying there but as a guest myself it wasn't a problem for me but considering the sheer volume of whores in there on any given day there must have been so many left red of face and blue of balls, poor sods. 
I don't know how long this went on for and have since been back and no problems. Was anyone else affected by it?

[HarryZZ]

I was text when the girl arrived at the hotel and gave her directions so she could casually walk past reception to the lifts, which floor I was on and then which way to go from the lift and which room number.

All the other stuff regarding the difference in meeting one side of the door or the other is so obviously rubbish I can't believe anybody believes it. Whether it's the room, the bar, car park, or outside your room, what's the difference? What if she knocks on your door and you step outside the room to greet her? The implication is that the law would treat it differently, rubbish.

[happyharry]

.....and don't forget that all the large chain hotels have CCTV in most public areas. Good reason to give the girl clear directions to your room and, if you meet here at reception best keep your hands to yourself til you get back to your room.

[CityTillIDie]

Hide your valuables

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[wirehair]

I generally let them know the room number and give them any directions they might need - where the lift/stairs are etc. I've had some funny experiences though. The best was at a hotel in Newcastle. She texted me to say she had arrived so I gave her the room number but she said could I come down and meet her in the lobby. She then must have decided just to come up to the room, so as I was going down (err...) in one lift she was going up in the other! I arrived in the lobby, saw an attractive woman by the lifts and asked if she was looking for me. Her face was a picture as she gave me a very definite "No"!! Back up to the room (with a red face!) and who should be standing outside knocking the door but my guest for the next hour  .

[TheRuiner]

Rather obvious but dont  forget to put the"Do not disturb" sign on the door and use the chain/manual lock, especially if a morning punt. More than once I've given an over-zealous housekeeper an eyefull.
Also when checking in tell them you're a light sleeper and would rather minimise noise outside the room. This way you'll avoid a room right outside the lifts and an audience when she enters/leaves your room.
Also, just incase of worst case and the girl has to present herself to reception and give your name or is stopped I suggest using one of the sites that allow you to book without a card so you can use a fake name and pay cash on arrival. It does limit your hotel options but well worth it. Or a top up card. Also if using a card purely to secure the room (no prepayment/pre-authorisation being taken) using a fake name is possible as the booking system only checks if the card details are the correct format..in theory, an expired/cancelled/yet to be activated card would also work although I wouldn't recommend doing so.
Avoid using a loyalty card as your generating evidence of the stay and a change in account balance may prompt a statement to be sent out in the post. Potential dynamite if you have a wife/partner. Free room upgrade, newspaper and a vicious fucking divorce it is..

[mrbobbit]

Rather obvious but dont  forget to put the"Do not disturb" sign on the door and use the chain/manual lock, especially if a morning punt. More than once I've given an over-zealous housekeeper an eyefull.
Also when checking in tell them you're a light sleeper and would rather minimise noise outside the room. This way you'll avoid a room right outside the lifts and an audience when she enters/leaves your room.
Also, just incase of worst case and the girl has to present herself to reception and give your name or is stopped I suggest using one of the sites that allow you to book without a card so you can use a fake name and pay cash on arrival. It does limit your hotel options but well worth it. Or a top up card. Also if using a card purely to secure the room (no prepayment/pre-authorisation being taken) using a fake name is possible as the booking system only checks if the card details are the correct format..in theory, an expired/cancelled/yet to be activated card would also work although I wouldn't recommend doing so.
Avoid using a loyalty card as your generating evidence of the stay and a change in account balance may prompt a statement to be sent out in the post. Potential dynamite if you have a wife/partner. Free room upgrade, newspaper and a vicious fucking divorce it is..

I bow down before the expert.

I have never had a problem, even in the odd hotel with key card operated lifts. I am divorced and single, mind. so no worries about her indoors.

[bigmanbigman]

Never pay up front and let girl take money to her car driver .
Thats the. Last your see of her !!

[Pennine Rover]

Most experienced girls will know their local hotels and will know their way around them and thus look confident on arrival. They will also know which ones need a key card etc.

[radrats]

When i book hotels I usually book it for 2 adults as it usually the same price. So when i book in if they ask who else is staying I say my partner had to work and may turn up later if she can get off, that way if she does get stopped she could just say I'm here to surprise my husband Jim in room number 133.
 But anytime I've booked outcall I've never had any problem with the escort walking by the reception, but always good to have cover story.

[Home Alone]

. . . always good to have cover story.

That sounds like a motto for many of us in punting-land!

[RedKettle]

Most experienced girls will know their local hotels and will know their way around them and thus look confident on arrival. They will also know which ones need a key card etc.

I used to assume this but have found that most of the time it is the first time the girl has been to that hotel! 

[TheRuiner]

I used to assume this but have found that most of the time it is the first time the girl has been to that hotel!

Same here. Or I've made the mistake of assuming a WG will use basic common sense. Plenty will glide up to your room without drawing a second glance but it's not unheard of for a chap to waiting for the knock only to have a phone call from reception "Mr Smith? Visitor for you here at reception to collect..at least we think she's here to see you..she says she doesn't know your name,just your room
Number.."

[tarkus]

Lots of good advice so far.

I stay away quite often with work and usually use the chain hotels - Macdonald if I can but I'll use a Premier Inn if needs must - never had a problem with having WG's visit. Most often I give them the room number and advise them on the location of the lift/stairs. I find most WG's are confident enough not to worry about getting past reception. It wouldn't bother me to meet a girl in reception or outside the hotel, as fees and suchlike will all have been agreed beforehand and are not going to be discussed again until we're in my room I don't see how there could be any worry about soliciting by either party.

[TheRuiner]

This thread reminds me of an article I read enroute to a punt while on business in Brighton. Funnily enough the punt was in the mentioned Royal York.
I must say though, I'm very impressed at the comments from the Hilton Group. Sensible and progressive..not the usual mock-outrage and faux-naïveté companies tend to spout when vaguely linked to something a bit saucy.

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Probably sensible not to say too much about specific hotels but The Hilton Brighton Metropole was good for a punt, so long as the girl had one of the bigger rooms. Big busy reception and many non-guests passing through for gym, bar etc.

There's a boutique hotel nearby with a huge basement suite that can accommodate 6..mirrored ceiling, pole, jacuzzi, own private entrance. I suspect the staff turn a blind as it's frequently used for parties.

WG's booking unsuitable hotels is massive pet hate of mine. There's plenty of choice and it's easy to assess suitability before booking.

[wheeliebinwanking]

Lots of good advice so far.

I stay away quite often with work and usually use the chain hotels - Macdonald if I can but I'll use a Premier Inn if needs must - never had a problem with having WG's visit. Most often I give them the room number and advise them on the location of the lift/stairs. I find most WG's are confident enough not to worry about getting past reception. It wouldn't bother me to meet a girl in reception or outside the hotel, as fees and suchlike will all have been agreed beforehand and are not going to be discussed again until we're in my room I don't see how there could be any worry about soliciting by either party.

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Met many before, give them full details and to be honest I try and stay at hotels I know. One's within a city centre will be very busy and revolving door type. I've made a mistake 2 times

1. The Masseuse ended up coming in via the service entrance so they called up to my room at 10pm....dodgy as..but they've surely seen it before
2. The WG went to give the money to her driver...never saw her again


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[KO_81]

I've had 3 hotel punts.

Luckily for me all 3 went well with no issues from cleaners, pimps or hotel staff.

All 3 times I've picked a completely independent WG, two of those came to the room and had no challenge or issues finding it thankfully. They just walked right in and the staff didn't take a blind bit of notice of them.

Last hotel punt the lady asked me to meet her in the adjoining bar to have a drink first which was really nice and further negated the opportunity for an awkward question or challenge from nosy staff.

Most hotels these days knows that this kind of thing goes on and a lot of them turn a blind eye or don't even notice; I can imagine how some might get stuffy asking questions of someone they don't recognise walking in. This tends to be either because the WG looks lost, they have a keycard system for the lifts/doors or they've just had their arses kicked by managers about security.

This is where research on the hotel you're staying at as well as the WG in question is invaluable.

As others have mentioned make sure to use the 'do not disturb' sign as well as the 2nd lock to make sure nobody is coming in unless you want them to. Communication is paramount as well, make sure you are in touch with the lady all the way to the door and use the spyglass if there is one to ensure you're letting the right person in.

Leave the money in an unopened plain envelope in full sight of her, I leave it on the desk in front of the television; as soon as the "hello's" and other pleasantries are over with gesture with your eyes towards it so you can get the payment out of the way immediately. This usually breaks the ice and makes her more relaxed and you can both relax.

[sean70]

My hotel punts have a set routine.

1 I never leave my room to collect a WG either in the bar or outside to me that is punting suicide.

2 I always select reasonably large hotels that are quite busy and never book a hotel with key-card lifts/floor access

3 I do not give out my room number until she has said she has arrived at the hotel. I make this clear to her during the booking procedure. On arrival I will tell her how to get to me if it is not clearly obvious where the lifts are or the hotel is a bit of a maze.

The above routine has never failed me once and no WG has ever been stopped en-route to my room.

[KO_81]

1 I never leave my room to collect a WG either in the bar or outside to me that is punting suicide.

Why would that be punting suicide?

[Chiaroscuro54]

My advice, which is similar to most other posters here, is as follows.

Make sure before you book the hotel that it does not need keycard for entry or the lifts

The bigger the hotel the better, as the reception is much more likely to be crowded and so a single girl is unlikely to be noticed

When you check in and go to your room, make a mental note of how to reach the lifts, which floor you are on and which direction to turn on leaving the lifts

Give the above information to your escort and wait.

Enjoy the rest of the punt.

[fredpunter]

take a good book - they're always late

[sean70]

Why would that be punting suicide?

1 Collecting from a bar or even worse from outside of the hotel you never know who you might see or bump into. It has happened to OP I know before. The consequences were horrendous!

2 If ever there is a way to draw attention to yourself with other guests and hotel staff then this is it. Granted most don't give a fuck but I am not going to give them a chance to give a fuck. My hotel punts mean that if a WG comes in nobody will ever know she was coming to see me I want it to stay that way

3 If there is going to be any rejection re the way she looks so I am not proceeding with the punt I want that done in my room not in public

[myothernameis]

So if you meet her in the street/bar, say nothing and just take her to your room there is no solicitation, but if in casual conversation you should mention prices and/or services, and you were overheard I think you could be charged or held for questioning.

Every year when I fly out of London airports, I have an overnight stay in one of the airport hotels, and every year I make arrangements to book an escort for an outcall to my hotel

Now I have no problems meeting the escort outside the hotel, and there no need to discuss prices or service, as we have already discussed this in our emails. But there one main reason to go down and meet her, its the hotel key card entry system, and premier in at Gatwick airport is like this