UKP Clients BANNED 🥴😂

[AffAlchemist]

Just read this on Twitter
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Here’s the tweet
“ So, the brothel down the road from mine has effectively unionised against seeing UKP clients. They ID’d the clients who have previously written reviews on workers there and now collectively refuse to see them. We love to see it!”


If you give/get a great service then surely UKP brings a flood of business but if you are a shitty provider then you surely expect shitty reviews 

[standardpostage]

Reviews are an everyday part of life nowadays, it's normal.
Good service = good reviews.
Bad service = bad reviews.

[Blackpool Rock]

Looking at some of the quotes they clearly have no idea what this site is actually like especially over the last couple of years where the nasty posting has been cracked down on, still comparing us to the BNP FFS yet look how many threads there are where both SP's and punters put some dodgy person back in their hole 

I don't frequent other forums however I believe that most have an element of trolling and some nasty posts especially if there is an OT section.
There is a dedicated politics thread however just look at our rules and things like religion; racism and homophobic posts aren't allowed.

I'd actually wager that the current UKP is far more accommodating and welcoming / non discriminatory than most other forums or social media platforms, in fact Twitter which that post is taken from appears to be a cesspit of abuse 

Girls have sites such as SAAFE and most of us would agree that they need somewhere to be able to go and discuss things and let off steam plus flag up potentially dodgy punters etc.
However us punters also need somewhere, for instance there are a couple of threads running in the NW at the moment where people are turning up and getting robbed by a guy with a hammer who turns up when the girl leaves the room to stash the cash.
Are they honestly saying that punters shouldn't be able to let each other know about this shit happening so they have to turn up blind and potentially get seriously hurt or killed by this bloke 

If a girl is a thief it needs flagging, if a girl is unreliable or ghosts you on arrival it needs flagging; if a girl is smelly or unhygienic it needs flagging etc etc however the flip side is that if a girl is a good punt then she also gets some decent reviews and feedback.

In short the decent SP's have nothing to worry about this site 

Be interesting to get the views of some of the resident SP's on here too 


Oh and I wonder if anyone can identify the parlour, perhaps if they don't want UKP'ers to visit then we should help out and refuse to punt there 
They should be less worried about an honest review on here and more concerned about getting shut down by the authorities or punters dwindling away due to the effects of AW and OF etc 

[big-al93]

I wonder how many of their punters they can identify, I know there are some that have matched AW profiles with UKP members, would have thought it nearly impossible with a parlour, especially as it was mentioned that it's not the management just the SP's themselves. Unless there was something notable about the booking that was mentioned in the review?

[jeanphillipe]

Although its easy to make a new Aw account and burner phone .....

The ukp Barcodes tattoed to our arses unfortunately gives it away.

[Colston36]

Just read this on Twitter
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Here’s the tweet
“ So, the brothel down the road from mine has effectively unionised against seeing UKP clients. They ID’d the clients who have previously written reviews on workers there and now collectively refuse to see them. We love to see it!”


If you give/get a great service then surely UKP brings a flood of business but if you are a shitty provider then you surely expect shitty reviews

A mistake I think. She doesn't know how much UKP has changed since I joined 7 or 8 years ago, when it was full of misogynists. Not that there aren't a few now; but i wager we are a better bet than the average punter - besides being good spenders.

[Atrueyorkie]

I’m so tired of the same spiel they have about ukp members. It’s outdated and mostly untrue. We’re apparently all misogynists, woman haters, a secret society, demons in some peoples eyes. Of course we’ll have some cunts but that’s like 10-20% not the majority. And you shouldn’t base your opinion on the minority.

Then there’s the white knights who got banned who go grovelling and moaning how they got banned. “We stood up for you” - Well done Bob, a cookie for your brave efforts.

Its free promotion at the end of the day, just boring to see it so repetitive

[ulstersubbie]

I’m so tired of the same spiel they have about ukp members. It’s outdated and mostly untrue. We’re apparently all misogynists, woman haters, a secret society, demons in some peoples eyes. Of course we’ll have some cunts but that’s like 10-20% not the majority. And you shouldn’t base your opinion on the minority.

+1

[elnukky]

Apparently we have to pay to use this site: External Link/Members Only

[Southernbloke]

Apparently we have to pay to use this site: External Link/Members Only

Some of us do!

[RandomGuy99]

Don't worry about it.

Move on to another provider.

They may find that a good percentage of their customers were UKP members and their takings will go down.

Or it may be that it works wonderfully for them and everyone is happy.

It could also be that the UKP reviews drive customers to them and if the reviews stop happening  then so does the flow of unidentified UKP member customers.

UKP reviews drive traffic to the well reviewed SPs, so provided an SP is mostly doing a good job then they shouldn't be worried about UKP.  However, we all accept that everyone has bad days in their job and being an SP having to please random guys walking in off the street is a very difficult job, so no SP is going to have a perfect review record.

Life is too short....

[IndigoRocks]

Girls have sites such as SAAFE and most of us would agree that they need somewhere to be able to go and discuss things and let off steam plus flag up potentially dodgy punters etc.
However us punters also need somewhere, for instance there are a couple of threads running in the NW at the moment where people are turning up and getting robbed by a guy with a hammer who turns up when the girl leaves the room to stash the cash.
Are they honestly saying that punters shouldn't be able to let each other know about this shit happening so they have to turn up blind and potentially get seriously hurt or killed by this bloke 

If a girl is a thief it needs flagging, if a girl is unreliable or ghosts you on arrival it needs flagging; if a girl is smelly or unhygienic it needs flagging etc etc however the flip side is that if a girl is a good punt then she also gets some decent reviews and feedback.

In short the decent SP's have nothing to worry about this site 

Be interesting to get the views of some of the resident SP's on here too 

Totally agree those things need to be shared & there needs to be accountability on both sides for poor behaviour.

My personal issues are when identifying information is shared (which holds zero relevance to the meet) … also location specifics (I know this shouldn’t be shared but this rule is frequently flouted without consequence or removal). Both these things things may seem harmless, but actually compromise our safety and anonymity.

Also, if the content of a review is overly graphic- it does put me off seeing a client again tbh. I know I’m a sex worker, but that doesn’t mean I shouldn’t be treat like a human being.

But, absolutely general reviews and warnings are an essential part of safety in this industry. I completely respect the need for that on both sides.

[scutty brown]

A brothel in Bristol apparently, and she supposedly works in another nearby

[hendrix]

I've been on UKP for about 10 years and is has changed a hell of a lot in that time. It's a shame that some WG's would apparently never acknowledge that, but hey-ho, they don't have to, and we don't have give them any business either.

[daviemac]

Totally agree those things need to be shared & there needs to be accountability on both sides for poor behaviour.

My personal issues are when identifying information is shared (which holds zero relevance to the meet) … also location specifics (I know this shouldn’t be shared but this rule is frequently flouted without consequence or removal). Both these things things may seem harmless, but actually compromise our safety and anonymity.

Also, if the content of a review is overly graphic- it does put me off seeing a client again tbh. I know I’m a sex worker, but that doesn’t mean I shouldn’t be treat like a human being.

But, absolutely general reviews and warnings are an essential part of safety in this industry. I completely respect the need for that on both sides.

A couple of points here, firstly we regularly remove addresses, specific locations and phone numbers and post warning reminding members of the rules, but we can only do this if we know about it and with 1,600+ new reviews per month we can't read them all so rely on being told by way of post reports.

Secondly you, as a service provider, should not know you are seeing a member of UKP, it's frowned upon to say the least to let an SP know who you are on here. If I booked you you would have no idea who I am nor would you be able to link me to my review. There should be no link between here, the punt or AW.

[IndigoRocks]

A couple of points here, firstly we regularly remove addresses, specific locations and phone numbers and post warning reminding members of the rules, but we can only do this if we know about it and with 1,600+ new reviews per month we can't read them all so rely on being told by way of post reports.

Secondly you, as a service provider, should not know you are seeing a member of UKP, it's frowned upon to say the least to let an SP know who you are on here. If I booked you you would have no idea who I am nor would you be able to link me to my review. There should be no link between here, the punt or AW.

Thank you for acknowledging my points.

Unfortunately my old street name still remains on this site. Flagging these things for an SP is dependant on her having access to the site or even being aware of it.
I appreciate the volume of reviews makes this hard to manage.

Also, re reviews. I’ve rarely been told about reviews but have always (without exception) known who has left them… even if it’s been months after the event. It’s always just been really obvious to me based on the content of the review. I’m sure it’s pretty easy for other SPs to work it out too unless they are very high volume with a low number of regs.

[pythondan]

Is there any way of analyzing UKP reviews by parlour in Bristol to see how many positive, neutral and negative reviews there are per establishment?

I would be interesting to see the data that has triggered this action.

[A.Claw]

Quick flick through her timeline shows why she'd like this: External Link/Members Only

Scenes at the broth because one girl can’t do maths and keeps turning up the music to give us a times up warning half way through the bookings, and the other gal is getting annoyed at her instead of seeing it as a blessing from the ✨dyscalculia gods✨

Short changing customers is a good thing for her and of course she wouldn't want to be held accountable...

[daviemac]

Thank you for acknowledging my points.

Unfortunately my old street name still remains on this site.

At present there's 3,196,136 posts on the site so as you can imagine it could take me several years to find where your street name is, alternatively you could do as I suggested and report where it is, either by a link on this thread or by 'report to moderator' on the post it is actually on and if it is / was not advertised it will be removed.

BTW members also report where addresses etc have been posted.

[scutty brown]

Is there any way of analyzing UKP reviews by parlour in Bristol to see how many positive, neutral and negative reviews there are per establishment?

I would be interesting to see the data that has triggered this action.

They're not indexed, so you'd have to run a series of searches on parlour names

[daviemac]

Is there any way of analyzing UKP reviews by parlour in Bristol to see how many positive, neutral and negative reviews there are per establishment?

I would be interesting to see the data that has triggered this action.

Search the name and reviews will show in a list.

[RandomGuy99]

I believe there's an SP site somewhere that allows SPs to know who we are.

I know I've had grief from SPs when I've left reviews for them. They've told me "I've been told that you are RandomGuy99 and I want you to remove your review of me. If there was a problem with my service you should have said in the room.".   The reason I didnt say so in the room was that the SP was on drugs and probably wouldn't have been receptive so me saying "I think you're on drugs and I'm leaving because I don't feel comfortable."

It's either that or the SP has some simps on here who report to the SP who has left reviews for them.

[IndigoRocks]

At present there's 3,196,136 posts on the site so as you can imagine it could take me several years to find where your street name is, alternatively you could do as I suggested and report where it is, either by a link on this thread or by 'report to moderator' on the post it is actually on and if it is / was not advertised it will be removed.

If the review was edited wouldn’t it bump it back to the top of the board though?

[daviemac]

I believe there's an SP site somewhere that allows SPs to know who we are.

I know I've had grief from SPs when I've left reviews for them. They've told me "I've been told that you are RandomGuy99 and I want you to remove your review of me. If there was a problem with my service you should have said in the room.".   The reason I didnt say so in the room was that the SP was on drugs and probably wouldn't have been receptive so me saying "I think you're on drugs and I'm leaving because I don't feel comfortable."

It's either that or the SP has some simps on here who report to the SP who has left reviews for them.

There's no site that can disclose a UKP member's name, the only way for anyone to know who you are on here is if you leave a trail or tell them yourself.

If I book an escort and say use Peter Potts as the name to book under, never mention or deny all knowledge of UKP if asked there's no way on earth they would know it's me.

[RandomGuy99]

There's no site that can disclose a UKP member's name, the only way for anyone to know who you are on here is if you leave a trail or tell them yourself.

If I book an escort and say use Peter Potts as the name to book under, never mention or deny all knowledge of UKP if asked there's no way on earth they would know it's me.

It's very easy to work out somone's AW username based on the reviews left on here and on AW. You just need to look at date of the feedback left on AW. It's really easy.  The only way to avoid it is to not leave any feedback on AW.

[daviemac]

If the review was edited wouldn’t it bump it back to the top of the board though?

No it would stay where it was, it would just have 'edited by daviemac' at the bottom.  To bring it back to the top it would have to be quoted or the thread actually posted on.

[IndigoRocks]

No it would stay where it was, it would just have 'edited by daviemac' at the bottom.  To bring it back to the top it would have to be quoted or the thread actually posted on.

Okay - thank you.

(Example)

[daviemac]

It's very easy to work out somone's AW username based on the reviews left on here and on AW. You just need to look at date of the feedback left on AW. It's really easy.  The only way to avoid it is to not leave any feedback on AW.

Rubbish, don't use the same name and change or miss out the exact date when posting a review on here. Two different names, two different dates, slightly different reviews, how can you link them.

When posting a review on here you aren't expected to compromise anonymity, as long as the basic information about services is correct along with other details and it's posted within the 6 month timescale, identifying information can be left out. EG you wouldn't need to mention something like the bed collapsing. Even put an incorrect date for the booking, one totally different to that on AW, oh and change the wording.

[RandomGuy99]

Rubbish, don't use the same name and change or miss out the exact date when posting a review on here. Two different names, two different dates, slightly different reviews, how can you link them.

When posting a review on here you aren't expected to compromise anonymity, as long as the basic information about services is correct along with other details and it's posted within the 6 month timescale, identifying information can be left out. EG you wouldn't need to mention something like the bed collapsing. Even put an incorrect date for the booking, one totally different to that on AW, oh and change the wording.

Trust me, it's really easy to do.

SS who has left a review on here has also left reviews for SPs X, Y and Z
Go look at SP X, Y and Z AW profiles, the feedback left and the dates the feedback was left
You match this to the reviews on here
You can figure out the SS's AW name

You don't have to be a rocket scientist.

[daviemac]

Trust me, it's really easy to do.

SS who has left a review on here has also left reviews for SPs X, Y and Z
Go look at SP X, Y and Z AW profiles, the feedback left and the dates the feedback was left
You match this to the reviews on here
You can figure out the SS's AW name

You don't have to be a rocket scientist.

Are you really saying if I book and escort on AW as Peter Potts leave feedback on 24/05/23 saying I had a good time, then as daviemac post a review on here in two months time giving basic unidentifiable information about the booking you can tell it's me.   

[theaccountant]

Trust me, it's really easy to do.

SS who has left a review on here has also left reviews for SPs X, Y and Z
Go look at SP X, Y and Z AW profiles, the feedback left and the dates the feedback was left
You match this to the reviews on here
You can figure out the SS's AW name

You don't have to be a rocket scientist.

You're working on the assumption we also leave AW Feedback on the girls we review here. It doesn't make sense for me for someone off here to do that if they know the reviews on UKP hold more weight than AW Feedback.

[RandomGuy99]

Are you really saying if I book and escort on AW as Peter Potts leave feedback on 24/05/23 saying I had a good time, then as daviemac post a review on here in two months time giving basic unidentifiable information about the booking you can tell it's me.   

If you spent enough time looking at your booking and review history then I think you could.

[finn5555]

I wouldn't worry unless you have your UKP tee on 

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[Blackpool Rock]

At present there's 3,196,136 posts on the site so as you can imagine it could take me several years to find where your street name is, alternatively you could do as I suggested and report where it is, either by a link on this thread or by 'report to moderator' on the post it is actually on and if it is / was not advertised it will be removed.

BTW members also report where addresses etc have been posted.

Yes I reported a full postcode about a week ago which was edited in a matter of minutes by a Mod 

[pythondan]

Does anyone on here ever leave negative feedback on AW? - I certainly wouldn't as it can provoke retaliation and give you a poor AW record which may cause other girls not to see you.

I would say that probably less than 25% of my punts are actually booked via AW - mostly by phone or text - and if I was going to leave a neutral or negative report here I would leave at least a week after the meeting before doing so.

[daviemac]

If you spent enough time looking at your booking and review history then I think you could.

Not a cat in hells chance, there'd be nothing at all to link them. Different names, different description in the feedback and different dates, months apart.

[paul_tall_]

Does anyone on here ever leave negative feedback on AW? - I certainly wouldn't as it can provoke retaliation and give you a poor AW record which may cause other girls not to see you.

I would say that probably less than 25% of my punts are actually booked via AW - mostly by phone or text - and if I was going to leave a neutral or negative report here I would leave at least a week after the meeting before doing so.

And that unfortunately is where the integrity of the reviews against the profiles on AW exist , the thought of being identified to a booking you rate as negative just doesn’t appeal. Like you my bookings are limited by phone. I prefer to review on here and avoid reviewing on AW .

[KatieEdinburgh]

I think we nearly always can tell which client is on UKP by deduction quite easily. Even when you wait 6 months before posting the review we can still work it out

You’re writing a blow by blow account of the booking and we don’t have a memory of a goldfish lol. But I personally don’t mind as I will see reviewers again if they’re positive reviews. However if one brothel wants to not see clients that they know are UKP members I suppose that’s their choice. Might make a dent in their earnings but probably won’t, a lot of clients are not on here.

Occasionally we will know who posters are without even meeting you. Girls do talk to each other you know especially if it’s a shared set up like the one here

[Atrueyorkie]

At present there's 3,196,136 posts on the site so as you can imagine it could take me several years to find where your street name is, alternatively you could do as I suggested and report where it is, either by a link on this thread or by 'report to moderator' on the post it is actually on and if it is / was not advertised it will be removed.

BTW members also report where addresses etc have been posted.

+1, I distinctly remember flagging up berksboy for just that, being a weirdo and asking for exact road name. (Still hasn’t booked, no shock there).

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=363531.0

As you can see it’s been removed so like Davie is saying if it’s not removed report the post 

[hairdownthere]

If you spent enough time looking at your booking and review history then I think you could.

OK, tell me my AW user name.

[RedKettle]

Trust me, it's really easy to do.

SS who has left a review on here has also left reviews for SPs X, Y and Z
Go look at SP X, Y and Z AW profiles, the feedback left and the dates the feedback was left
You match this to the reviews on here
You can figure out the SS's AW name

You don't have to be a rocket scientist.

why would you leave an AW review at all????

I do the odd one to get a review back to help with bookings but that is all.

[RedKettle]

You’re writing a blow by blow account of the booking and we don’t have a memory of a goldfish lol. B

If they are concerned about being identified they should not write a blow by blow account.  I also tend to put the odd false fact in there - nothing that alters the value of the review to the reader.

[whiskeygogo]

Are you really saying if I book and escort on AW as Peter Potts leave feedback on 24/05/23 saying I had a good time, then as daviemac post a review on here in two months time giving basic unidentifiable information about the booking you can tell it's me.   

No, but if you do the same thing again, it's easy to cross-reference them, because the group of users who have given AW feedback to both users will be small in the last 6 months will be small. Repeating this just a few more times will reduce that group to 1 user

[pythondan]

You’re writing a blow by blow account of the booking and we don’t have a memory of a goldfish lol.

Do bookings really vary so much that you could pick a particular punter out of say your last 50?

Unless the review mentions a specific incident but instead just comments of ease of booking, location, appearance and an overview of services then surely lots of the meets are pretty generic and thus hard to pin to a particular person?

[KatieEdinburgh]

Do bookings really vary so much that you could pick a particular punter out of say your last 50?

Unless the review mentions a specific incident but instead just comments of ease of booking, location, appearance and an overview of services then surely lots of the meets are pretty generic and thus hard to pin to a particular person?

Personally, yeah I can.
Depends on who. Some ladies hate this place and avoid looking at what is written about them, anyone who is pimped is unlikely to read here either. But if you’re reasonably smart you can normally work it out by power of deduction as well as who else you have reviewed. If you also have seen someone I know I could speak with them and ask.

But usually I don’t go around asking details from my friends since I don’t really care who you are

[IndigoRocks]

Personally, yeah I can.

Same.

[RedKettle]

Personally, yeah I can.
Depends on who. Some ladies hate this place and avoid looking at what is written about them, anyone who is pimped is unlikely to read here either. But if you’re reasonably smart you can normally work it out by power of deduction as well as who else you have reviewed. If you also have seen someone I know I could speak with them and ask.

But usually I don’t go around asking details from my friends since I don’t really care who you are

Back in the day when I punted a lot I walked into a meeting with a regular who I saw once or twice a month for a while and she asked me straight off if I was Redkettle who had reviewed her.  Well dealing with WGs is like dealing with a wife in one way, deny anything until it is proven and then keep denying.  So i kept calm and said no I was not and added, "what is UKP?".

She laughed and said she was asking all her regulars as she was pleased with the review.  I still kept quiet and she explained all about UKP for me.

Point is she actually had no idea who had reviewed her.

[RandomGuy99]

Back in the day when I punted a lot I walked into a meeting with a regular who I saw once or twice a month for a while and she asked me straight off if I was Redkettle who had reviewed her.  Well dealing with WGs is like dealing with a wife in one way, deny anything until it is proven and then keep denying.  So i kept calm and said no I was not and added, "what is UKP?".

She laughed and said she was asking all her regulars as she was pleased with the review.  I still kept quiet and she explained all about UKP for me.

Point is she actually had no idea who had reviewed her.

Well I've been bollocked by 3 SPs for writing reviews. One had her maid contact me after someone on here informed her who I was.  I denied all knowledge, but she clearly didn't believe me as her informer had told her.  I don't really have a problem with it as I have nothing to hide and the reviews were fair.

[rubric]

Personally, yeah I can.

Based on that I'm curious whether you think the average UKPer puts too much detail in their reviews.

On the topic of the OP itself; they are going to to what they do, and that's their prerogative. Though am somewhat bemused that the sex workers who are most vocally in favour of decriminalisation generally don't seem to believe that 'ethical consumption' of sex work is possible.

[Jonestown]

Well I've been bollocked by 3 SPs for writing reviews. One had her maid contact me after someone on here informed her who I was.  I denied all knowledge, but she clearly didn't believe me as her informer had told her.  I don't really have a problem with it as I have nothing to hide and the reviews were fair.

How would someone on UKP know who you are ?