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Author Topic: POLL: Would you mind if you booked a girl and she turned out to be a Post-Op TS?  (Read 5452 times)

vt

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A subject that has received publicity on a recent thread is that there are a number of post-op Transsexuals (TS) advertising and working as females in London.

west8 wrote a review about his booking with a certain Inesita who turned out to be a post-op TS, you can read more here:

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=48853.0

Although westie seemed to enjoy himself, he called it a negative for the deception. Since being exposed as a TS, Inesita has since deleted her profile.

A pre-op TS SweetLauren aka Lauren Prado joined in the discussion, her gleeful claim is that she knows 'about 6 ridiculously hot post ops who work as females, you can visit them 100 times, you will never know, unless they tell you'.

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When I challenged her about this, I got a barrage of accusations of transphobia. I admit that the language I used wasn't the most conciliatory, but I don't have a problem with TS per se, my motto is live & let live. Nevertheless, I certainly don't want to mistakenly get intimate with anyone who was born with a cock, regardless of whether that person now considers themselves female and has had gender reassignment surgery.

I understand that some guys on here actively seek out TS, so there's room for all views here.

Others such as pumps claim to have been duped on several occasions to his disappointment...https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=48853.msg677136#msg677136

No doubt this is one of those occasions...

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=27905.0

Some guys, such as these young Russians in Thailand took the transexuals who duped them to task, maybe coming off worse in the scuffle and all ended up at the Police Station...

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So guys, would you mind if a girl you booked turned out to be a post-op transexual??

If yes, how would you react once you had made the discovery? Would you leave as soon as possible? Would you ask for your money back? Would you resort to force to get your money back?

If not, how would you go about making the best of the situation? Is it just an occupational hazard of punting?

Over to you guys...

« Last Edit: March 23, 2015, 09:37:16 pm by vt »

SirFrank

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Yes. I don't have a problem with TS but they should advertise accordingly

Offline claretandblue

wasnt this done to death on westies review of inesita?

i cant imagine anyone coming on here and saying they like to be deceived by any wg let alone one lying about their original gender :dash:

Drillakilla

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She would certainly get a negative in my review :D possible a neutral if it was the best blowjob ever :D

vt

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wasnt this done to death on westies review of inesita?

i cant imagine anyone coming on here and saying they like to be deceived by any wg let alone one lying about their original gender :dash:

That was in the London section, so I've opened it out to a nationwide audience to comment on.

Lets not pre-empt other member reactions!  :hi:

Sylvester

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That was in the London section, so I've opened it out to a nationwide audience to comment on.

Lets not pre-empt other member reactions!  :hi:
I'd be pretty unhappy, to be fair.  I'm entirely pro people being able to define themselves however they choose.  I'm afraid that I can't get past the idea that you are just shagging a man who has had some bits removed...  Maybe I'm out of step.

Ben4454

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Gender bait and switch. Id walk.

Offline Punting Valley

It would be deceptive :mad: However if the punt went really good then I find out, well I must say I would be quite impressed that I can't even tell her original sex :wacko: :crazy:.

SirFrank

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Imagine how little your cock would look in his/her big fucking hands! That would be the give away

Sylvester

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Imagine how little your cock would look in his/her big fucking hands! That would be the give away
Do you think you can feel the Adams apple from the inside?

Offline billyjo

I'd be devastated.  Are we now at the stage where a post op ts fake vagina cannot be differentiated with a real vagina? 



Stealthshagger

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It's dishonest. If they think it's no big deal, then why not state it? If they do think it's a big deal, they clearly should state it.

Do you think they would mind if you paid in dodgy currency? Just misrepresenting the currency? Or if you misrepresented any of the salient details your end? Like if there are other people there for an outcall, etc?

If you sell or rent or do anything for money you need to be honest about it. That is true of sex as in anything, perhaps even more in such a case.

Offline billyjo

I've said it before, there should be some law in place to prevent ts's tricking straight guys into sex.  If you're born with a cock, regardless of how many surgical procedures and hormones you take to try and look feminine, you're still a man. 


Offline smiths

A subject that has received publicity on a recent thread is that there are a number of post-op Transsexuals (TS) advertising and working as females in London.

west8 wrote a review about his booking with a certain Inesita who turned out to be a post-op TS, you can read more here:

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=48853.0

Although westie seemed to enjoy himself, he called it a negative for the deception. Since being exposed as a TS, Inesita has since deleted her profile.

A pre-op TS SweetLauren aka Lauren Prado joined in the discussion, her gleeful claim is that she knows 'about 6 ridiculously hot post ops who work as females, you can visit them 100 times, you will never know, unless they tell you'.

External Link/Members Only or External Link/Members Only

When I challenged her about this, I got a barrage of accusations of transphobia. I admit that the language I used wasn't the most conciliatory, but I don't have a problem with TS per se, my motto is live & let live. Nevertheless, I certainly don't want to mistakenly get intimate with anyone who was born with a cock, regardless of whether that person now considers themselves female and has had gender reassignment surgery.

I understand that some guys on here actively seek out TS, so there's room for all views here.

Others such as pumps claim to have been duped on several occasions to his disappointment...https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=48853.msg677136#msg677136

No doubt this is one of those occasions...

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=27905.0

Some guys, such as these young Russians in Thailand took the transexuals who duped them to task, maybe coming off worse in the scuffle and all ended up at the Police Station...

External Link/Members Only

So guys, would you mind if a girl you booked turned out to be a post-op transexual??

If yes, how would you react once you had made the discovery? Would you leave as soon as possible? Would you ask for your money back? Would you resort to force to get your money back?

If not, how would you go about making the best of the situation? Is it just an occupational hazard of punting?

Over to you guys...

I most certainly would mind. I want natural born women and those that deceive punters are total scumbags in my view.

To ME post-ops are still men but with no cock. Now if such people appeal to some punters good for them, that's their business as who I wish to punt with is mine. There is a world of difference between Transexuals having the right to be who they wish to be and being prostitutes not informing punters they once had a cock as I see it.

Stealthshagger

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To me the issue is just deception removing right to choice.

Offline maxxblue

Too fucking right I would.

There was a case where a girl deceived other girls into thinking she was a boy (External Link/Members Only), and her deception was classed as sexual assault.

I don't see any difference, in principle, to a WG who turns out to be a post-op transexual.  :unknown:



xxxx

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I had a great blowjob from a she-male, better then most females. But depends if you want sex

Offline ForrestGump

Yes I'd mind.

Post-op or pre-op ts should imo always make it clear about their true birth gender in their advertising, even if through cosmetic surgery and hormone treatment they've achieved an apparently complete gender change.

In the case of those few that are genuinely born intersex I guess it's a tougher call as to their true original gender but they should still be up-front about that.

Andre 3000

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It would be outright deception if they didn't tell you. It's fine if you as a punter are open or looking for that. But I'd like to know.

Although when a WG is mega glamorous you do have to wonder... Especially these south American ones. As some of these TS's look better than a lot of 'actual' women.  :D

« Last Edit: March 24, 2015, 08:09:14 am by Andre 3000 »

Offline OakTree

Can't say it would bother me too much as I think I've been duped a few years ago by one anyway. I could see it would bother some though and they should tell you before hand.

ATMIV

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I'd be mega pissed off and walk and then before I'd have chance to calm down I would write a scathing review on here.

I'm not homophobic - it's the deliberate deception - a TS is not a woman it's a man with altered body features I would be having sex with

Don't know if there is a TS section on AW but if there is that is where he should be advertising.

vt

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Although when a WG is mega glamorous you do have to wonder... Especially these south American ones. As some of these TS's look better than a lot of 'actual' women.  :D

It is Latina (Brazilian) TS that were discussed, though others have mentioned Oriental (Thai) posties also working as women.

TS Lauren has revealed that she is XXY (Klinefelter Syndrome) which is the most common chromosomal disorder affecting around 1 in 1000 male births. The upshot is that although they are often born with male genitalia and the majority will continue to live as males, testosterone levels at puberty are often reduced so that secondary male characteristics are often underdeveloped, so they are nearly always sterile and somewhat androgynous, developing natural breast tissue, making the transition to a convincing female that much easier to achieve.

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It is worth noting that were it not for our Y chromosome and a strong dose of testosterone at 6-8 weeks gestation and again at puberty, we would all develop as females...any interference in that process causes havoc...male gender is a precarious state.

I do have sympathy for the plight of those born with chromosomal abnormalities which interfere with sex differentiation, it must be difficult to find a place in a very binary world, but like many here, I don't think it excuses any dishonesty or deception about their true status if they choose to prostitute themselves.

Offline myothernameis

I'd be mega pissed off and walk and then before I'd have chance to calm down I would write a scathing review on here.

I'm not homophobic - it's the deliberate deception - a TS is not a woman it's a man with altered body features I would be having sex with

Don't know if there is a TS section on AW but if there is that is where he should be advertising.

I think I would feel the same way, I would be booking an escort, and believing her to be female, if I found out it was a ts, and we have done everything from sex, kissing, in the end I would say it isn't right

Put it like this, how would you all feel if a 15 yr old girl managed to get a profile on Aw, she looks  a lot older than she is, and you have seen her; and the next day its all over the news paper

Offline HappyandLucky

Each to their own and if a post op advertises openly then I wish them all the best. However, if I had been openly duped into going through all the services on the likes list and then found out, Then there is a distinct possibility the meeting would not end nicely and at a minimum I would request a refund. IMO any post op caught duping is playing with fire, some time or another she will dupe the wrong person and it will end in tears.

vt

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I'd be mega pissed off and walk and then before I'd have chance to calm down I would write a scathing review on here.

I'm not homophobic - it's the deliberate deception - a TS is not a woman it's a man with altered body features I would be having sex with

Don't know if there is a TS section on AW but if there is that is where he should be advertising.

There is a 'TS/TV' box to tick on AW, so there's no excuse...but sadly some try to dupe unwary punters by not ticking the box and appearing as natural-born females.

Obviously the market for natural-born females is bigger, so there's a cash incentive to tap into that market, but maybe they feel a sense of victory if their female credentials are convincing enough to dupe unwary punters.

Offline cunnyhunt

This is for sure a TS

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But listed as female.

I do not want the deception when I book.

Offline Johny Stone

This is for sure a TS

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But listed as female.

I do not want the deception when I book.

You can see clearly the scars and that pussy looks disgusting  :vomit:

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Offline Brazilian Martian

Makes me think of the film the crying game  :vomit:

vt

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This is for sure a TS

External Link/Members Only or External Link/Members Only

But listed as female.

I do not want the deception when I book.

This one's not a very convincing female.  :rolleyes:

Inesita had westie convinced right up to the point when he 'began the MOT and popped the bonnet' and TS Lauren claims you could visit some Latina TS 100 times and never guess...that's more worrying!  :scare:

Offline myothernameis

This is for sure a TS

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But listed as female.

I do not want the deception when I book.

Maybe a hint of what she or he might be

Will be working from my Ts friends house in kettering

pierrot

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Post op is on my punting  must do list but I would like the knowledge before hand.

pierrot

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Makes me think of the film the crying game  :vomit:


You can tell by the tits. They arent just in the right place.

Offline myothernameis


You can tell by the tits. They arent just in the right place.

Then theres the hiding of the face in the photo, might be another give away

Offline cunnyhunt


You can tell by the tits. They arent just in the right place.

Agreed, the surgeon should of left them in their packaging.

Offline flybynightpm

that's plain disgusting... I love TS girls but yuk....  The tin should say Pre-Op or Post-Op otherwise its deception... I'm sure there are better ones out there.. but i'd be pissed off if I was duped... as I am with any genetic girl who says their a size 8 and turns out to be a 12 or does anal...yeah right...

Cornish sub

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A subject that has received publicity on a recent thread is that there are a number of post-op Transsexuals (TS) advertising and working as females in London.

west8 wrote a review about his booking with a certain Inesita who turned out to be a post-op TS, you can read more here:

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=48853.0

Although westie seemed to enjoy himself, he called it a negative for the deception. Since being exposed as a TS, Inesita has since deleted her profile.

A pre-op TS SweetLauren aka Lauren Prado joined in the discussion, her gleeful claim is that she knows 'about 6 ridiculously hot post ops who work as females, you can visit them 100 times, you will never know, unless they tell you'.

External Link/Members Only or External Link/Members Only

When I challenged her about this, I got a barrage of accusations of transphobia. I admit that the language I used wasn't the most conciliatory, but I don't have a problem with TS per se, my motto is live & let live. Nevertheless, I certainly don't want to mistakenly get intimate with anyone who was born with a cock, regardless of whether that person now considers themselves female and has had gender reassignment surgery.

I understand that some guys on here actively seek out TS, so there's room for all views here.

Others such as pumps claim to have been duped on several occasions to his disappointment...https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=48853.msg677136#msg677136

No doubt this is one of those occasions...

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=27905.0

Some guys, such as these young Russians in Thailand took the transexuals who duped them to task, maybe coming off worse in the scuffle and all ended up at the Police Station...

External Link/Members Only

So guys, would you mind if a girl you booked turned out to be a post-op transexual??

If yes, how would you react once you had made the discovery? Would you leave as soon as possible? Would you ask for your money back? Would you resort to force to get your money back?

If not, how would you go about making the best of the situation? Is it just an occupational hazard of punting?

Over to you guys...
Haha, transphobia. Fuck me, are we not allowed to not like anything these days without it being given a ridiculous phobia label? But to answer your final questions, I'd be fucking furious if I was duped and would get my money back one way or another.

Offline anonyorks

I'd see it as an example of bait and switch in a weird way.

Topgun

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Stealthshagger

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broksonic

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I pay to see a woman, and not a bloke with boobs !!.   

Offline cueball

I pay to see a woman, and not a bloke with boobs !!.

That sums it up for me too

Offline AnthG

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Would you mind if you booked a girl and she turned out to be a Post-Op TS?

Yes, big style.

Quite frankly I think I would literally throw up. And I don't think I mean that as a figure of speech.

To clarify my position. I have nothing whatsoever against pre-ops, and to be honest a few seem very attractive. But Post ops for me is just retch inducing. I literally cannot think of anything worse than it to be honest.

that's plain disgusting... I love TS girls but yuk....

My thoughts too.
« Last Edit: March 24, 2015, 09:41:56 pm by AnthG »
Banned reason: To much drama, account closed
Banned by: Iloveoral

Offline jsparky

This one is so obviously a lady boy, and with two positive review here, how come no one kiss & tell?  :vomit:

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Offline od13218

Interesting question - no, it wouldn't, but that's because I am tbh slightly bi and have enjoyed pre-op TS experiences a few times -  BUT I would want to know beforehand ideally. Very much depends - if I found her hot, I'd stay, if not, I'd walk: but that's no different from a regular punt I guess.
However I appreciate that my tastes are not everyone's, and I totally understand how some guys would be pissed off. There's plenty of guys who *would* want a post op TS, so surely better to be honest?
Doug


Offline Mr Farkyhars

Just to clarify: not every single case of a 'fake' vagina is an instance of a TS. Some genetic women require this surgery, not only in the (relatively common) cases of MRKH syndrome - where the vagina is blocked and the womb often absent - but rarer developmental disorders such as a 'cloacal abnormality' where sometimes there is no opening for the vagina or even for the urinary tract, and a basic vulva is 'created' immediately after birth.

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« Last Edit: March 25, 2015, 02:10:16 am by Mr Farkyhars »

bensonhedges20

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Just to clarify: not every single case of a 'fake' vagina is an instance of a TS. Some genetic women require this surgery, not only in the (relatively common) cases of MRKH syndrome - where the vagina is blocked and the womb often absent - but rarer developmental disorders such as a 'cloacal abnormality' where sometimes there is no opening for the vagina or even for the urinary tract, and a basic vulva is 'created' immediately after birth.

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The chances of an escort with that are slim to none.

A TS can advertise in the alternative category but chooses to list himself in the femake category knowing it is 25x more popular for one reason only: more hits equals more cash.

any ts showing deceptiveness is purely bait and switch.

Offline SirNigel

Absolutely I'd mind.....no matter what a surgeon can do with a knife, it's still a bloke....

Topgun

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This one is so obviously a lady boy, and with two positive review here, how come no one kiss & tell?  :vomit:

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What a fcuking state that thing is.
Seriously someone would have to pay me a LOT of money to get with that.