Ever considered setting up an agency? Part II

[cunningman]

You seem to forget this site is here to benefit punters, not to assist wannabe pimps or those looking to make money from escorts in any shape or form.

Having better platforms than AW with plenty of SPs is surely in our interest?

[scutty brown]

Having better platforms than AW with plenty of SPs is surely in our interest?

But this guy clearly isn't going to produce a better platform.

[daviemac]

Having better platforms than AW with plenty of SPs is surely in our interest?

As scutty says he isn't going to create a better platform than AW, he hasn't got a clue, I would bet he doesn't know how many advertising platforms there are already.

He can't grasp that whatever site he creates needs to attract escorts first and foremost, if a new site is reported on here punters look at it and comment and if there is very little choice it is labelled a waste of time.

The most important thing to punters, correct me if I'm wrong, is honesty they want genuine adverts with accurate descriptions, if the OP of this thread has based his post on out and out lies how reliable do you think his site will be.

To clarify the above he has given the impression that he sought and was granted permission to post this thread, not true, he did email the site owner but his email was ignored, confirmed by Head1 on this thread. He also gives the impression that I sanctioned the thread, again not true he did send me a PM but gave no indication of the contents of the 10 year old thread he was referring to, had he done so my reply would have been very different, in fact had he tried to revive the thread it would not have been approved, it would have been deleted.

Then we get down to the main point of the rules, the rules that have been pointed out several times on here including by Head1, this site is not here to assist wannabe pimps or anyone else seeking to gain financially by providing services to escorts.

To be honest I am quite surprised that members would chose to ignore the rules and support someone who's sole aim is to make money from escorts.   

[Hardman123]

A very good idea, funny how it was only you who thought of the getting freebies angle.

You made the statement you made I said it says a lot about you, you could have left it there but for some reason you want to turn it into something it doesn't need to be, if I can give you a bit of advice, don't.

Leave it here.

I’m not scared to stand up to your bullying. That’s the difference. You concluded freebies from a sacastic comment. Says a lot about you to be honest.like I said. Don’t fall off your ivory tower anytime soo.

[Hardman123]

Having better platforms than AW with plenty of SPs is surely in our interest?

Agree. But some can’t look past their stance… 

[marc_hotsteppa]

Hardman123 Oh dear, 

[daviemac]

I’m not scared to stand up to your bullying. That’s the difference. You concluded freebies from a sacastic comment. Says a lot about you to be honest.like I said. Don’t fall off your ivory tower anytime soo.

We'll see if a couple of weeks break from the site makes a difference to you, this isn't the first thread you have had an attitude on, next time the ban will be permanent.

Like I said before the matter of freebies must have been on your mind, no one else thought about it.

[PepeMAGA]

Have you done any professional web design/ before or been part of the sex industry?

[90125]

Have you done any professional web design/ before or been part of the sex industry?

Strange question for Davie

[pbrown355]

These points have been made already on this thread but not all in the same post, so forgive me indulging myself.
A site that competed with AW but without some of the flaws often complained about on here would be good from a punter POV. I have to assume it would benefit SPs as well.
I can't see anything this guy has said that makes me think he has the capability of providing it. Even though there is apparently a team behind/alongside him, if he is the chosen frontman I would not be optimistic.
Just my opinion.

[PepeMAGA]

Strange question for Davie

[maxeyate]

Philosophy only counts for some much.

The real differentiators are the amount of good buying/well behaved booking traffic and cost.

The differentiators you mention are indeed the drivers. What lies behind these drivers is philosophy. For example, VivaStreet has (I would assume, and this forum probably corroborates this view) less well-behaved booking traffic as there are a lot of fake profiles. An abundance of fake profiles exist because the owners want to earn as much money as possible and don’t care about customer satisfaction, which is already inherent to their philosophy. Philosophy moulds the approach you take to cost structure as well. So, I believe that philosophy is a baseline for the differentiators you mention. Thanks for the feedback.

[maxeyate]

But this guy clearly isn't going to produce a better platform.

This is clear because I am less of a domain specialist in the space than you are? Or because there are already competitors in the space? This line of argument could hold truth, but everyday in various industries, people not in the top echelon of their domain create good products. They do, however, take interest in hearing from entrenched domain specialists (like yourself, I assume).

[maxeyate]

Have you done any professional web design/ before or been part of the sex industry?

If this is addressed to me, the first, yes, extensively. The latter, no.

[maxeyate]

I can't see anything this guy has said that makes me think he has the capability of providing it. Even though there is apparently a team behind/alongside him, if he is the chosen frontman I would not be optimistic.
Just my opinion.

Fair enough. Your opinion. Thanks for the feedback though.

[maxeyate]

As scutty says he isn't going to create a better platform than AW, he hasn't got a clue, I would bet he doesn't know how many advertising platforms there are already.

He can't grasp that whatever site he creates needs to attract escorts first and foremost, if a new site is reported on here punters look at it and comment and if there is very little choice it is labelled a waste of time.

The most important thing to punters, correct me if I'm wrong, is honesty they want genuine adverts with accurate descriptions, if the OP of this thread has based his post on out and out lies how reliable do you think his site will be.

To clarify the above he has given the impression that he sought and was granted permission to post this thread, not true, he did email the site owner but his email was ignored, confirmed by Head1 on this thread. He also gives the impression that I sanctioned the thread, again not true he did send me a PM but gave no indication of the contents of the 10 year old thread he was referring to, had he done so my reply would have been very different, in fact had he tried to revive the thread it would not have been approved, it would have been deleted.

Then we get down to the main point of the rules, the rules that have been pointed out several times on here including by Head1, this site is not here to assist wannabe pimps or anyone else seeking to gain financially by providing services to escorts.

Addressing the first part of your response, I believe I have somewhat of an understanding of what ad platforms exist. This forum has a list of such platforms, pretty extensive. So, I know a bit about the space.

Next two paragraphs are solid advice. Thank you. Number of WGs matter as well, good point.

Regarding the paragraphs about my conduct on the platform. I didn’t mention which thread I want to revive, yes. NO MOD GAVE ME PERMISSION TO START THIS THREAD. Just a heads up to readers. The mod let me start a new thread but I didn’t specify what it will be about. I am also just answering to responses in the thread. No talks about platform specifics and so on, so the help I am receiving basically centres around criticising my capabilities to lead an ad platform. PMs are answer-only now. I will continue sticking to the rules of the platform.

[daviemac]

PMs are answer-only now. I will continue sticking to the rules of the platform.

Classic example of an oxymoron. You post this despite knowing that. -

I am not allowed to PM members anymore,

Despite the rules being pointed out numerous times you have chosen to totally disregard them and therefore earned a ban.

33 Access to sending Private Messages and the visibility of Members Post history have different criteria to be gained. The criteria will not be made public. Anyone attempting to circumvent the PM criteria by requesting PM’s may receive a ban.

[scutty brown]

Addressing the first part of your response, I believe I have somewhat of an understanding of what ad platforms exist. This forum has a list of such platforms, pretty extensive. So, I know a bit about the space.

I'm not  going to mince my words because the time for that is past.
If you think just reading that list gives you "have somewhat of an understanding of what ad platforms exist" then you're a fucking idiot.
Most of the sites on that  list are failures.
They are in the main knock-off copies using faked sex worker profiles, or licencees of the AW database back end. Virtually none of them are providing a useful service, and are largely ignored by punters.

If they can't provide a useful service or even make money without scamming, what makes you think you are different?
The whole idea is downright nonsense. You don't understand the business, you've no chance of competing. Give up before you start losing money.
There's a whole host of problems in front of you if you carry on, one of which is no bank payment/card payment clearance scheme is going to accept you as a customer. And no money = no business

[marc_hotsteppa]

There's a whole host of problems in front of you if you carry on, one of which is no bank payment/card payment clearance scheme is going to accept you as a customer. And no money = no business

I'm glad you mentioned this and it's 99% accurate as it's extremely hard to try and get payment processors set up for adult services with recent and forthcoming regulation changes.

OP, if you're reading this thread as a guest or when you get back from your ban, you might want to give this up completely and focus on something that is less likely to fail at the first hurdle.

[cunningman]

But this guy clearly isn't going to produce a better platform.

I agree that it seems that way - and that it is primarily getting the relationship with SPs and commercial and legal sides right, rather than any tech issues.

[big-al93]

Just read an ad for other services over on EH that sounds like this rocket, and if it is all he really seems to be offering is website design for anyone wanting to set up their own agency. I can't recall if EH links are allowed so I won't post it, but easy to find in the classified section.

[daviemac]

Just read an ad for other services over on EH that sounds like this rocket, and if it is all he really seems to be offering is website design for anyone wanting to set up their own agency. I can't recall if EH links are allowed so I won't post it, but easy to find in the classified section.

Your point being?     More publicity for a wannabe pimp.   

Correction, wannabe EE pimp.

[big-al93]

Your point being?     More publicity for a wannabe pimp.   

Correction, wannabe EE pimp.

Point was that he wouldn't give a straight answer about whatever he was trying to peddle, and it's further proof that it's a load of shite.

[MissWolf]

Just read an ad for other services over on EH that sounds like this rocket, and if it is all he really seems to be offering is website design for anyone wanting to set up their own agency. I can't recall if EH links are allowed so I won't post it, but easy to find in the classified section.

That is not the same person, that ad is from a company specialising in Web design

The OP here has joined Escortinghub under the same name as here but has yet to post on the forum 

[Doc Holliday]

That is not the same person, that ad is from a company specialising in Web design

The OP here has joined Escortinghub under the same name as here but has yet to post on the forum 

Indeed and EH allows users to search the members list to have picked this up.

There is a certain irony that there have been very recent multiple threads running both here and on EH moaning about issues with AW. There is clearly a desire for a viable alternative platform, but successfully achieving that is hugely difficult if not impossible.

[daviemac]

Point was that he wouldn't give a straight answer about whatever he was trying to peddle, and it's further proof that it's a load of shite.

He wouldn't give a straight answer because he is an EE pimp, he isn't even accessing from this country, he's accessing from Eastern Europe.

Might be better to make sure of the facts before posting.

It honestly makes me wonder when people on here try to help a wannabe / maybe already, EE pimp or even think it would be a good idea for one to open an advertising platform. 

[scutty brown]

I was so hoping he'd go and ask the question on SAAFE..........I'm sure the answer would have put him off the idea

[boardyhell]

years ago a  Russian escort I used to see was quitting
we used to go to the theatre etc ( non paid) asked me if I was interested in setting up an agency with her
she said she could get the girls over here
I wasn't really interested and she went back to Russia and run a pr agency
sometime I wondered what would have happened

[JontyR]

you will struggle to get any kind of useful consensus from punters on anything. 

I disagree.

[Strawberry]

years ago a  Russian escort I used to see was quitting
we used to go to the theatre etc ( non paid) asked me if I was interested in setting up an agency with her
she said she could get the girls over here
I wasn't really interested and she went back to Russia and run a pr agency
sometime I wondered what would have happened

You could have gotten into a lot of trouble, or have gotten away with it. I doubt it would have been easy.

[big-al93]

That is not the same person, that ad is from a company specialising in Web design

The OP here has joined Escortinghub under the same name as here but has yet to post on the forum 

Cheers for clarifying  . With the thread title it seems it was an unfortunate coincidence.

[daviemac]

Cheers for clarifying  . With the thread title it seems it was an unfortunate coincidence.

Which could damage the reputation of a legitimate business that has nothing to do with pimping.