They dont want us to please them guys!!!

[what-a man]

I just came across this article. It’s a real eye opener in relation to pleasuring escorts

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[mightymunce]

I can imagine it a bit odd for a WG for a guy who wants to please her FFS

[Rochelle]

I can imagine it a bit odd for a WG for a guy who wants to please her FFS

It's not odd for me.
It probably happens more often than you think.

[Bond]

All this makes perfect sense to be honest.

I like to give RO because it turns me on, and not because I have any delusions that the girl will have an orgasm with me. I look at RO as a service the girl gives to me, and not as something I do to make the girl have an orgasm.

I've never been the type to discuss services over the phone. If a girl doesn't offer RO, it's not an issue on a first visit, but it will make a second visit extremely unlikely.

Fingering, I'm simply not bothered with.

[mightymunce]

All this makes perfect sense to be honest.

I like to give RO because it turns me on, and not because I have any delusions that the girl will have an orgasm with me. I look at RO as a service the girl gives to me, and not as something I do to make the girl have an orgasm.

I've never been the type to discuss services over the phone. If a girl doesn't offer RO, it's not an issue on a first visit, but it will make a second visit extremely unlikely.

Fingering, I'm simply not bothered with.

Totally - that's pleasuring yourself

[Thephoenix]

Haven't learnt much there, although in my experience there have been exceptions.

[Jerk Chicken]

The article reads like a load of bollocks to me; typical battle hardened SAAFE style pro$$ies!

[hendrix]

Nothing surprising there surely? Although I do understand that some get pleasure from giving pleasure, in a paid context that can add pressure to the WG I'd imagine. Hence all the "did she really cum" threads over the years.

[what-a man]

I like to give RO because it turns me on, and not because I have any delusions that the girl will have an orgasm with me. I look at RO as a service the girl gives to me, and not as something I do to make the girl have an orgasm.

I think this is the right mindset for approaching this

[mightymunce]

Nothing surprising there surely? Although I do understand that some get pleasure from giving pleasure, in a paid context that can add pressure to the WG I'd imagine. Hence all the "did she really cum" threads over the years.

I get it might be important for some but most escorts are being fucked 10 x  a day and Will lose sensitivity. Some of them have to lube up as they don't get wet. If uou like licking out a girl, that's fine but don't stress if they don't have an orgasm

[Home Alone]

All this makes perfect sense to be honest.

I like to give RO because it turns me on, and not because I have any delusions that the girl will have an orgasm with me. I look at RO as a service the girl gives to me, and not as something I do to make the girl have an orgasm.

I've never been the type to discuss services over the phone. If a girl doesn't offer RO, it's not an issue on a first visit, but it will make a second visit extremely unlikely.

Fingering, I'm simply not bothered with.

I can identify with what you say about RO, Bond.

If I'm looking to visit any particular SP who I haven't seen before, I'll always check that RO is on the Menu. However, fingering's a bonus, in my book.

[MissWolf]

I just came across this article. It’s a real eye opener in relation to pleasuring escorts

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All this tells anyone is what those escorts think as they are the ones being interviewed,  as we are all individuals it says nothing about anyone else.

Although I will say that in part I agree to a degree but for me it's not about not wanting to be pleased it's about being pleased by someone I click with or who has skills in that department, sometimes I find that those that want to please me the most are the least skilled and confident doing it.

When someone asks in the middle of foreplay....am I turning you on, tell me what gets you off babe, I tend to find that a total turn off lol

Passion, just go with passion  ;

[hendrix]

I get it might be important for some but most escorts are being fucked 10 x  a day and Will lose sensitivity. Some of them have to lube up as they don't get wet. If uou like licking out a girl, that's fine but don't stress if they don't have an orgasm

Exactly. Pre-lube is pretty common in my experience, which is completely understandable.

[Rochelle]

I get it might be important for some but most escorts are being fucked 10 x  a day and Will lose sensitivity. Some of them have to lube up as they don't get wet. If uou like licking out a girl, that's fine but don't stress if they don't have an orgasm

Most are being fucked ten times a day? Some probably, but I highly doubt most are.

[RandomGuy99]

I think it's true.  Pretty much all WGs don't want you to please them sexually.  Paid sex is about you not them.

Occasionally you find a WG who is easy to make cum or a very good actress.

I'd recommend you steer well clear of trying to make a WG cum. Just don't do it and focus on your enjoyment.  They'll enjoy your cash in their own time.  All the bookings I've really enjoyed have been about me not the WG.

[daviemac]

Whatever I do with an escort I do because I enjoy it. I pay to be intimate with a woman and as I don't like to be too rushed I book 45 mins or an hour but as I only pop once I like a lot of foreplay.

Because I like the feel of a woman's body I like to start with me giving her a gently massage leading to RO. I'm not setting out to make her cum but if she enjoys it that's a bonus for her.
I generally find when we move on to more mutual things and sex itself they can get quite enthusiastic.

The way I look at it is if I get a better service during the second half of the booking because I've been doing something I enjoy in the first half then it's win win for me.

BTW I don't ask if it's 'doing it' for them or anything like that. If they give a bit of encouragement then that's different.

[RandomGuy99]

I think problems can arise though if a WG appears to be advertising orgasms as it sets expectations and makes you think the WG almost expects orgasms, so you try.  It probably also attracts the guys who think they're amazing at oral and can make any woman cum in 15 secs with their amazing skills so they think they're on to a winner, which is obviously not the case as women are all different.

I think in some cases the less said about what happens on a booking the better as it avoids wrongly setting expectations and lets the punter enjoy the experience he has without comparing it to others.

Simple solution - don't advertise orgasms.  No expectations set.  The punter enjoys his experience with or without orgasms from the WG.  The WG makes her money and no awkward situations where some supposed orgasm expert turns up and ends up disappointed. 

[RandomGuy99]

Whatever I do with an escort I do because I enjoy it. I pay to be intimate with a woman and as I don't like to be too rushed I book 45 mins or an hour but as I only pop once I like a lot of foreplay.

Because I like the feel of a woman's body I like to start with me giving her a gently massage leading to RO. I'm not setting out to make her cum but if she enjoys it that's a bonus for her.
I generally find when we move on to more mutual things and sex itself they can get quite enthusiastic.

The way I look at it is if I get a better service during the second half of the booking because I've been doing something I enjoy in the first half then it's win win for me.

BTW I don't ask if it's 'doing it' for them or anything like that. If they give a bit of encouragement then that's different.

+1

[smiths]

All this makes perfect sense to be honest.

I like to give RO because it turns me on, and not because I have any delusions that the girl will have an orgasm with me. I look at RO as a service the girl gives to me, and not as something I do to make the girl have an orgasm.

I've never been the type to discuss services over the phone. If a girl doesn't offer RO, it's not an issue on a first visit, but it will make a second visit extremely unlikely.

Fingering, I'm simply not bothered with.

Whereas fingering a WG is more preferable to me than RO on them, to each their own as per. I never expect any WG to enjoy herself when punting with me, I punt for my own sexual gratification, all I do expect of a WG is she puts an act on BUT no obvious fake moans as I am not a brain dead fucking idiot.

WGs are WGs rather than the village bike to sell pussy to punters, their pleasure isn't their motivation though I imagine some enjoy themselves on some occasions with some punters, not including with me. Some punters as UKP proves HAVE to delude themselves that the WG has cum through their great RO, yeah right. Not saying it never happens but i would bet its rare, and the so called experts who know as fact when a WG has had an orgasm live in fantasy land in my opinion.

What they don't take into account is how much practice a WG gets to perfect her act of having an orgasm AND crucially the fact there is an incentive for a WG to fake an orgasm, making the punter happy so he might return thus giving her more cash.

[GreyDave]

Most are being fucked ten times a day? Some probably, but I highly doubt most are.

Soho Walk ups 5-6 guys an hour is what some of the WG`s Ive been regular with over years have told me. its not big money unless youre popping them quickly 

Ive cum in less than 5 mins many a time when younger, their perfered clientel  as the younger lads are more excited before they get kit off last lady told me and are easy poppers.
As an older guy it takes me about five mins for bloody thing to wake up last lady I saw in newport st ended wanking me as time was up and a chap was waiting in the kitchen area

[unclepokey]

This thread shows the diverse nature of punter motivations and methods and to a degree also the different views of the SPs, although their motivation is primarily the money, of course.
I avoid seeing SP's who don't kiss. I won't see a SP that doesn't allow RO as I love doing it - with or without fingers. My motivation is thus to have sexual intimacy with a friendly woman that I fancy (am attracted to) and with whom I can achieve a satisfactory orgasm for myself.

Some guys have a 'see once and forget' policy. I'm not of that ilk. I always approach a first visit with the hope of building my confidence to return. Sometimes I do, others not. My most enduring continuity has lasted 18 years and this with a woman who doesn't allow full sex! But I have had other 'regulars' who have lasted in my ledger of punts for many years. 

Coming (at last) to my cardinal point - I have found, during the last 18 years, that over and above being clean, polite, timely, and furnished with the required mazooma, the tipping point in securing a 'value for money' punt either first time or later is - paying attention to her clit or nipples or her arse hole - whatever she prefers or all of the above if she's really greedy.

[David1970]

I go to a SP to enjoy myself, I am paying for a service, I am not there to make her enjoy herself.
They want you to pay them, to be clean, to be polite, to fuck them and to fuck off afterwards
They don’t want some soppy cunt who thinks he is a great lover pissing about trying to make them cum, then psychoanalyse after the punt is over. 

[RandomGuy99]

I go to a SP to enjoy myself, I am paying for a service, I am not there to make her enjoy herself.
They want you to pay them, to be clean, to be polite, to fuck them and to fuck off afterwards
They don’t want some soppy cunt who thinks he is a great lover pissing about trying to make them cum, then psychoanalyse after the punt is over.

+1

[Horizontal pleasures]

I love to be with a lady where the orgasms are mutual even if not simultaneous. I like to suck a lady down below and also play down there with my fingers. If she enjoys this, then usually she puts more effort into my pleasure so we both have fun. I find this works better with better with British ladies working from home than with overseas visitors in a rented flat. So that helps me choose my partners.

A good snog before and during is essential.

[Payyourwaymate]

I just came across this article. It’s a real eye opener in relation to pleasuring escorts

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Why is it so surprising? They mainly get pleasure from the £££££££... not a punters amazing oral, fingering or other sex skills, otherwise they would fuck punters for free time and time again after the amazing session no?  . Sure, there's probably some that have a good time and get paid, but going into a punt you are paying for as a customer, with the aim of pleasing the WG who is mainly in it for the money and not the pleasure is a bit silly.

[The Owl]

This isn't really news if you've spent more than a few minutes on the SAAFE forum, although the fact that you get to fuck a woman purely because you're paying her should be a good indication of who is doing it to get off.

Perhaps escorts that hate customers trying to please them should take things like fingering and RO off their likes list.  They could also add pay pig/cashpoint meets to their profile. Even in their FAQ's they could address the how can I please you sexually question with a reply like bookings are for getting you off, not me.

Of course there are the odd exceptions who for reasons only known to them enjoying getting off too if it happens, even when they're having sex with a bloke they'd not give a second look at in the street.

Then there are the good actresses who know some men get off on getting other people off.

[smiths]

This isn't really news if you've spent more than a few minutes on the SAAFE forum, although the fact that you get to fuck a woman purely because you're paying her should be a good indication of who is doing it to get off.

Perhaps escorts that hate customers trying to please them should take things like fingering and RO off their likes list.  They could also add pay pig/cashpoint meets to their profile. Even in their FAQ's they could address the how can I please you sexually question with a reply like bookings are for getting you off, not me.

Of course there are the odd exceptions who for reasons only known to them enjoying getting off too if it happens, even when they're having sex with a bloke they'd not give a second look at in the street.

Then there are the good actresses who know some men get off on getting other people off.

In reality many WGs aren't going to do any of this as they will know it puts some punters off them, so they lie instead hoping once the truth is uncovered at the punt the punter will stay anyway thinking with his cock. And with the amount of punters who don't walk as reviews on here show I bet at least some of these WGs get enough business.

[Rochelle]

Soho Walk ups 5-6 guys an hour is what some of the WG`s Ive been regular with over years have told me. its not big money unless youre popping them quickly 

Ive cum in less than 5 mins many a time when younger, their perfered clientel  as the younger lads are more excited before they get kit off last lady told me and are easy poppers.
As an older guy it takes me about five mins for bloody thing to wake up last lady I saw in newport st ended wanking me as time was up and a chap was waiting in the kitchen area

Sorry, guess I wasn't thinking about walk-ups. I was thinking about independents doing in calls.

[datwabbit]

Isn't there a risk that if a guy is really into pleasuring her, he'll start running out of time for his own release.

[billybobsmith]

Isn't there a risk that if a guy is really into pleasuring her, he'll start running out of time for his own release.

I've had occasions where that has happened.
Sometimes I'm just happy going down on her etc. as I enjoy that sort of thing.  It's nice being intimate with someone of the opposite sex at the end of the day for me.

There are times where I will make the effort to finish as late as possible.  Could be to pleasure the woman and/or to get my money's worth (don't want to cum too quickly and then she decides it's over as some do after 20 mins of an hour booking)

If a woman is going to get nothing from me pleasure wise, then there's no real point in going to see her in my opinion.
Said before, I can use my hand, do the job and save £140 + travel time etc. instead if she's just going to lie there, go through the motions and have no real interest beyond £££. 

[LLPunting]

All this tells anyone is what those escorts think as they are the ones being interviewed,  as we are all individuals it says nothing about anyone else.

Although I will say that in part I agree to a degree but for me it's not about not wanting to be pleased it's about being pleased by someone I click with or who has skills in that department, sometimes I find that those that want to please me the most are the least skilled and confident doing it.

When someone asks in the middle of foreplay....am I turning you on, tell me what gets you off babe, I tend to find that a total turn off lol

Passion, just go with passion  ;

+1

As every punter's own experiences should tell them there's a spectrum of SP attitudes; there are girls who are careless scammers who can't hide their contempt or revulsion, there are professionals who try to recognise what each punter wants and addresses those specific needs as best she can, there are warm women who enjoy entertaining; and all manner in between.

Punters cum from a full spectrum of needs so how any particular SP gets treated during a working week will run the gammut of experiences.  It may be shaped if she has a consistent reputation.  It's why review sites are useful to both sides of the industry as smart SPs can cultivate a better working experience through encouraging repeat custom from those they are not averse to.  Those WGs who aren't coerced or controlled that moan about the shit they have to put up with do not respect the fact that they prosper through providing a desirable service to service seekers (regardless of how respectful or callous the punters are), they are merely lazy opportunists willing to fuck indiscriminately (probably badly).

The article is aimed at painting prostitution negatively to serve as clickbait, they want moralising, civvy men and women to click looking to reinforce their prejudice and deny their own insecurities and inadequacies about sex relationships; they don't care why liberals click only that they do for the ad revenue they manifest.

[HarryZZ]

It's a salacious story, it's a sex story, there's nobody reading this to be educated, they want to be entertained, horrified, justified or just titillated, every SP will have different thoughts, they could have easily written the story the other way around choosing 3 reports out of 50 questioned suggesting that SPs crave the attention, or punters giving are desperate for the conformation of the sexual skills that they've always dreamed they had, whether they do or not. It's just entertainment, they've sent the cub reporter out to find something to grab the eye without the necessity to spend a great deal compiling a useful survey. Don't worry about it.

[sparkus]

It's a salacious story, it's a sex story, there's nobody reading this to be educated, they want to be entertained, horrified, justified or just titillated, every SP will have different thoughts, they could have easily written the story the other way around choosing 3 reports out of 50 questioned suggesting that SPs crave the attention, or punters giving are desperate for the conformation of the sexual skills that they've always dreamed they had, whether they do or not. It's just entertainment, they've sent the cub reporter out to find something to grab the eye without the necessity to spend a great deal compiling a useful survey. Don't worry about it.

The content all cooked up on a newsroom floor/journo's laptop in the kitchen without a single real WG spoken to.  Exactly like the froth in lads' mags where 'real girls' talk about their sexual desires etc.

It's not something that's ever crossed my mind and the only time I've heard anything akin to to this was one WG declining RO as it was "something [she] really enjoys".  I left it at that, I got what she meant ie. she just wanted to lay back and let me get it over with as quickly as possible.

I've had some long and steamy RO sessions in the confines of Chinese medicine shops where the girl has climaxed or indeed asked me to keep going so they can but it's not something I dwell on.  A few on here like to draw attention to such things and I've had PMs from blokes boasting about doing it (bully for you!)

[Rochelle]

The content all cooked up on a newsroom floor/journo's laptop in the kitchen without a single real WG spoken to.  Exactly like the froth in lads' mags where 'real girls' talk about their sexual desires etc.

It's not something that's ever crossed my mind and the only time I've heard anything akin to to this was one WG declining RO as it was "something [she] really enjoys".  I left it at that, I got what she meant ie. she just wanted to lay back and let me get it over with as quickly as possible.

I've had some long and steamy RO sessions in the confines of Chinese medicine shops where the girl has climaxed or indeed asked me to keep going so they can but it's not something I dwell on.  A few on here like to draw attention to such things and I've had PMs from blokes boasting about doing it (bully for you!)

Seriously?

That's fucking hilarious, and pathetic.

[sparkus]

Seriously?

That's fucking hilarious, and pathetic.

Oh yes. Certain famous Chinese SPs of Central London, my own personal review!

[Doc Holliday]

Seriously?

That's fucking hilarious, and pathetic.

Indeed ... although I have stopped sending those PMs now since my medication kicked in

[Watts.E.Dunn]

Most are being fucked ten times a day? Some probably, but I highly doubt most are.

See, there you have it! women get more fun that us guys. I could never manage 10 girls a day t'aint fair;!

[Dorsetpunter]

See, there you have it! women get more fun that us guys. I could never manage 10 girls a day t'aint fair;!

Chance would be a fine thing 

[LLPunting]

See, there you have it! women get more fun that us guys. I could never manage 10 girls a day t'aint fair;!

I could, my cock couldn't, at least until I get the pump installed and I stock up on the pain killers... 

[iq129]

I pay for sex because I get none at home. My wife has has no sexual feelings for a decade now. I would never ever see prostitutes if I could get sex even once a month at home. I was aware that working girls do not fully enjoy sex with clients but I did believe that they didn’t mind being pleasured and that some ladies did get aroused. The article has proven me totally wrong. It seems that all these ladies want is money even if pleasure was to be had as a perk of their job. Some ladies mentioned in the article want us out earlier rather than sooner, and a few also want tips. They loathe haggling and say that they charge for their time, so why should we tip them? They get their stated fees and we get the time paid for, so why pay them more? If these ladies want to pleasure their clients then why expect tips? As a client, the last thing I would want is to leave a tip. I would receive no pleasure from paying more than what I am supposed to. Tipping is haggling in reverse. It is hypocrisy for ladies to dislike clients who haggle but at the same time love receiving tips. On the whole, I find the ladies who have been interviewed as hating their work but who are great actresses.

[iq129]

The article reads like a load of bollocks to me; typical battle hardened SAAFE style pro$$ies!

I disagree. Just do a Google search for “Do prostitutes enjoy sex?” and you will gain access to loads and loads of web pages that confirm that working girls actually loathe sex, and they are in it only for money.

[MissWolf]

I disagree. Just do a Google search for “Do prostitutes enjoy sex?” and you will gain access to loads and loads of web pages that confirm that working girls actually loathe sex, and they are in it only for money.

Both of your posts are a massive generalisation based on you totally believing that everything in the article is true of every working girl.

We are individuals not a standard issue army water bottle, I personally like the money but I also really enjoy a lot of the sex and being pleasured, I also enjoy the company I get with the men who book me, I know quite a few girls who feel the same as me.

Don't believe everything you read especially if it's a small sample of a population,  I would never say that all punters are sex starved married men, but a few are 

[daviemac]

I disagree. Just do a Google search for “Do prostitutes enjoy sex?” and you will gain access to loads and loads of web pages that confirm that working girls actually loathe sex, and they are in it only for money.

What a load of absolute bollocks. It doesn't even warrant a counter argument.

[finn5555]

I disagree. Just do a Google search for “Do prostitutes enjoy sex?” and you will gain access to loads and loads of web pages that confirm that working girls actually loathe sex, and they are in it only for money.

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[LLPunting]

I disagree. Just do a Google search for “Do prostitutes enjoy sex?” and you will gain access to loads and loads of web pages that confirm that working girls actually loathe sex, and they are in it only for money.

You clearly do not understand how search algorithms work nor how they are manipulated.
IF you're not prepared to commit the time to finding resources that are credible and reading evidence that can be substantiated then don't bother propounding facts.  Just use the line "In my deliberately limited understanding I believe..." it's what should be used instead of the current mantra "We're being led by the science".

[iq129]

You clearly do not understand how search algorithms work nor how they are manipulated.
IF you're not prepared to commit the time to finding resources that are credible and reading evidence that can be substantiated then don't bother propounding facts.  Just use the line "In my deliberately limited understanding I believe..." it's what should be used instead of the current mantra "We're being led by the science".

My Google searches revealed some websites that support what I said, but there are also others that say MANY (not all) working girls do not enjoy sex with clients. So yes, I see that search results vary. I have now also seen some accounts of prostitutes that do enjoy, although from my experience I have not found a lady that has enjoyed. I am not out there to help her enjoy but if she does then it becomes sex more mutual than one-sided.

[LLPunting]

Both of your posts are a massive generalisation based on you totally believing that everything in the article is true of every working girl.

We are individuals not a standard issue army water bottle, I personally like the money but I also really enjoy a lot of the sex and being pleasured, I also enjoy the company I get with the men who book me, I know quite a few girls who feel the same as me.

Don't believe everything you read especially if it's a small sample of a population,  I would never say that all punters are sex starved married men, but a few are 

Go on, run for Parliament and a place on the committees for educational reform and affordable sex services, it's about time the genders could enjoy their physical differences and needs via discrete commercial exchange without the lock of civil betrothal and religious dogma.

[iq129]

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You are probably right. Perhaps I am too old and ugly to make any woman enjoy, so I made a generalisation based on my own experiences and some internet articles. Sorry. No offence intended.

[MissWolf]

Go on, run for Parliament and a place on the committees for educational reform and affordable sex services, it's about time the genders could enjoy their physical differences and needs via discrete commercial exchange without the lock of civil betrothal and religious dogma.

[AnthG]

I just seen this topic, where the hell did they get these women from??

‘I would love a client to please me. Throw 10 grand on the bed and not make me have sex with him, that sounds AMAZING.
‘We prefer our clients to follow screening and booking without complaint'
‘I can only speak for myself but the clients who actively tried to please me during sessions were always my worst ones!'
‘I never enjoy it, I’m not attracted to my clients. But I don’t care, I’m not there to enjoy it, I don’t want to enjoy it.'
‘The only way really to please me is to pay upfront, and tip generously.'

Even Saafe isn't as bad as this? In terms of the question, I honestly don't know about the actual sex part of it. But there are girls out there who seem to genuinely seem to have fun spending time with men who book them. And generally speaking, the sex with them is more fun.