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Offline yorkieyorkie

Now having read few pages of SAAFE and Mumsnet I’m really surprised and even a little disappointed with the way ‘many’ women who are WG’s talk about punters. Now I’ve been punting for 7 or so years and I do it cos I really enjoy sex without any strings attached. I’m single and could date etc and heck I don’t say this arrogantly even pull many girls I’ve paid but I pay to walk away and the non hassle that comes with it.

I fully understand WG’s slagging off violent, abusive, dirty etc type of punters but I’ve always been respectful and clean and always paid straight up the full amount but the vitriol some WG’s have baffles me.

I know it’s pretty stupid of me reading such articles but just wanted to know what others thought or am I just giving this topic far too much attention.

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I think, like this site, don't read it unless you have thick skin.

And as a guy you won't even be able to read the 'hidden' board on SAAFE.

Online scutty brown

you're giving the topic too much attention.

They're paid to fuck you, not to like you

Offline marcello

I guess they have seen too many.
I do go there clean and all, as if it were a date  :lol: :lol: and treat them way better than civvies.
But the problem is for every client who is clean and nice think how many arrogant, prick, curry-smelling, dirty, drunk, stoned clients they might see.
I think to be a decent WG you have to be 100% independent and enjoy it to a certain extent because otherwise you will soon end up burn out and hating pretty much every client regardless of the way they behave.
In a sense you really have to be confident, otherwise putting up with a job like this it's too much.
« Last Edit: October 21, 2018, 11:28:18 pm by marcello »

Offline yorkieyorkie

I think, like this site, don't read it unless you have thick skin.

And as a guy you won't even be able to read the 'hidden' board on SAAFE.

Oh I’m very thick skinned :)

Offline yorkieyorkie

you're giving the topic too much attention.

They're paid to fuck you, not to like you

Fair point my man. Fair point  :thumbsup:

Offline king tarzan

They are fucking men for money they wouldn't go near otherwise.. deep down i suppose there would be contempt and disgust..
I admit that if it wasn't for the money about at least 97% of them wouldn't come near me..
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Offline yorkieyorkie

I guess they have seen too many.
I do go there clean and all, as if it were a date  :lol: :lol: and treat them way better than civvies.
But the problem is for every client who is clean and nice think how many arrogant, prick, curry-smelling, dirty, drunk, stoned clients they might see.
I think to be a decent WG you have to be 100% independent and enjoy it to a certain extent because otherwise you will soon end up burn out and hating pretty much every client regardless of the way they behave.
In a sense you really have to be confident, otherwise putting up with a job like this it's too much.

I never treat it like a date but I get ready as though it’s a date as in choice of clothes, aftershave hair shaved etc down below.

Yeah I can imagine how the many dick heads can make some of them think the way they do. I have had some WG’s say they don’t DFK clients but they did me as my oral hygiene was good. I mean how messed up is it that people walk around with bad breath/teeth. (Medical reasons excluded)

Offline yorkieyorkie

They are fucking men for money they wouldn't go near otherwise.. deep down i suppose there would be contempt and disgust..
I admit that if it wasn't for the money about at least 97% of them wouldn't come near me..

Oh I fully understand that. Even I’m not stupid enough to not know that many girls have fucked doing this wouldn’t look at me twice in the street. I just think (foolishly on my part perhaps) that even though I enjoy wild sex and like to dominate in the bedroom respect was both ways.

Offline king tarzan

Oh I fully understand that. Even I’m not stupid enough to not know that many girls have fucked doing this wouldn’t look at me twice in the street. I just think (foolishly on my part perhaps) that even though I enjoy wild sex and like to dominate in the bedroom respect was both ways.

Shows the power of money..

I always believe there are 2 powers in this world...


Above the skies GOD...
Below the skies MONEY..
that simple....
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Offline EnglishRebecca121

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saafe is the female version of ukp thats the best way to sum it up.
Some funny post, some stupid post and alot of drama...
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Offline yorkieyorkie

Shows the power of money..

I always believe there are 2 powers in this world...


Above the skies GOD...
Below the skies MONEY..
that simple....

Without wishing to sound like a misogynistic pig I’ve come to the conclusion that 95% of girls will gravitate towards a shitty scum bag man with money compared to 95% of girls who could be a with a guy who earns a decent crust and is a decent human being.

Offline NigelF

Now having read few pages of SAAFE and Mumsnet I’m really surprised and even a little disappointed with the way ‘many’ women who are WG’s talk about punters. Now I’ve been punting for 7 or so years and I do it cos I really enjoy sex without any strings attached. I’m single and could date etc and heck I don’t say this arrogantly even pull many girls I’ve paid but I pay to walk away and the non hassle that comes with it.

I fully understand WG’s slagging off violent, abusive, dirty etc type of punters but I’ve always been respectful and clean and always paid straight up the full amount but the vitriol some WG’s have baffles me.

I know it’s pretty stupid of me reading such articles but just wanted to know what others thought or am I just giving this topic far too much attention.

Personally, I mainly find mumsnet and SAAFE to be very entertaining (SAAFE sometimes being interesting and informative too). You can't really expect civvies to understand. As for SAAFE, while some are just miserable old hags with dusty phones, most who seem to be making very broad generalisations are just speaking sloppily and don't really mean to tar all punters with the same brush and that's sometimes revealed when girls call them out on it (which is fairly rare but does happen).

However, as lilywhite has suggested, they all know that their comments are visible to punters and even though they might be hard to identify due to the alias/username they use, they're still usually careful (although sometimes they seem to forget) so the real vitriol is saved for the hidden board.

I do go there clean and all, as if it were a date  :lol: :lol: and treat them way better than civvies.

 :D
I don't really treat it like a date although I do treat them a lot better than civvies too. I think it's because I have money (and time) on the line so I don't want to get anything less than the best possible out of the meet.
« Last Edit: October 21, 2018, 11:59:33 pm by NigelF »

Offline king tarzan

Without wishing to sound like a misogynistic pig I’ve come to the conclusion that 95% of girls will gravitate towards a shitty scum bag man with money compared to 95% of girls who could be a with a guy who earns a decent crust and is a decent human being.

the latter 95% should it be 5% as you may have got it wrong?

Typing error?
« Last Edit: October 22, 2018, 12:01:45 am by king tarzan »
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Offline marcello

I never treat it like a date but I get ready as though it’s a date as in choice of clothes, aftershave hair shaved etc down below.


yeah i meant exactly this, well presented hopefully

Offline yorkieyorkie

the latter 95% should it be 5% as you may have got it wrong?

Oh shit my bad. Thanks for the correction   :hi:

Offline Metalgear2018

Too be fair. The escorts are fucking men they would not go anywhere near. So it's understandable.

Offline NigelF

Without wishing to sound like a misogynistic pig I’ve come to the conclusion that 95% of girls will gravitate towards a shitty scum bag man with money compared to 95% of girls who could be a with a guy who earns a decent crust and is a decent human being.

Aside from the not insignificant number who really do gravitate to scum bags (often because of daddy issues, previous relationships, psychological issues etc). I think in most cases it's actually that they're just attracted to some of the traits that are found more often in scum bags than typical blokes. I don't think money is a particularly big factor until women get into their 30s (although there are goldiggers of all ages) and even then it's not huge. Also, those traits are usually only attractive for either one nights stands, flings or short-medium terms relationships, rarely long term.

Personally, I think a lot of "decent guy" behaviours are, deep down, just dishonest fluff - often because "society" tells you to behave like that. If you're just brutally honest and ensure you focus on having fun for yourself (even if than means being a bit of dick) it's often a lot more effective on dates, as well as being more enjoyable and making it easier to get to the action much quicker. Tinder is great for this because you can do most of it during the messaging.

Too be fair. The escorts are fucking men they would not go anywhere near. So it's understandable.

It's not understandable when they're choosing to do it and being paid good money for it. In my job there are plenty of things I wouldn't do if I wasn't being paid but I not only do them but I do them to a very high standard (for a variety of reasons, not least because it'll often make me even more money in the long run).
« Last Edit: October 22, 2018, 12:19:23 am by NigelF »

Stevensmiles

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Shows the power of money..

I always believe there are 2 powers in this world...


Above the skies GOD...
Below the skies MONEY..
that simple....


The first sentence is a fairy story and unproven.

So it ain’t that simple.

Apart from the power of money that is.

Offline Moby Dick

Never read it, don't think I ever will.
All that matters is her attitude whilst I am paying her.

Offline Jimmyredcab

Never read it, don't think I ever will.
All that matters is her attitude whilst I am paying her.

Agree totally ------------------- I bet that Saafe is full of fat old has beens anyway, who gives a fuck what they think about us.

Offline shagmore

Shows the power of money..

I always believe there are 2 powers in this world...


Above the skies GOD...
Below the skies MONEY..
that simple....

There is no God, so only 1 power

Offline Waterhouse

They are fucking men for money they wouldn't go near otherwise.. deep down i suppose there would be contempt and disgust..
I admit that if it wasn't for the money about at least 97% of them wouldn't come near me..
KT you could most likely reduce that down to 87% if you'd stop bathing in Kouros.   :rolleyes:

Maybe further still to around 75% if you lose the Addidas threads from your wardrobe.   :cool:

 :lol: :lol:  :lol:

Offline winkywanky

Now having read few pages of SAAFE and Mumsnet I’m really surprised and even a little disappointed with the way ‘many’ women who are WG’s talk about punters. Now I’ve been punting for 7 or so years and I do it cos I really enjoy sex without any strings attached. I’m single and could date etc and heck I don’t say this arrogantly even pull many girls I’ve paid but I pay to walk away and the non hassle that comes with it.

I fully understand WG’s slagging off violent, abusive, dirty etc type of punters but I’ve always been respectful and clean and always paid straight up the full amount but the vitriol some WG’s have baffles me.

I know it’s pretty stupid of me reading such articles but just wanted to know what others thought or am I just giving this topic far too much attention.


I think in reality the percentage of WGs who feel like this is probably pretty well equal to the percentage of punters who like to demean women and love the feeling of being able to force their resentment on women because they paid for it.

One can only hope that in the main these types get to meet each other and play out their rancour, while the rest of punting humanity gets on with the job (literally) of indulging in paid sex of various hues in pursuit of the heady mix of pleasure and money enjoyed by either side, and both sides coming out of that transaction feeling good about themselves. 

Offline winkywanky

....and I should add, this site goes a long way in enabling that to happen  :thumbsup:

Offline king tarzan

KT you could most likely reduce that down to 87% if you'd stop bathing in Kouros.   :rolleyes:

Maybe further still to around 75% if you lose the Addidas threads from your wardrobe.   :cool:

 :lol: :lol:  :lol:

 :lol: :thumbsup: :hi:
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Offline datwabbit

They are fucking men for money they wouldn't go near otherwise.. deep down i suppose there would be contempt and disgust..
I admit that if it wasn't for the money about at least 97% of them wouldn't come near me..

Contempt for you wanting to have sex with them?
Contempt for themselves for doing it?
Contempt for you because they can't face having contempt for themselves?

TizerTerry

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I suppose there are many dynamics in each individual encounter so perhaps best seeing it as an artificial scenario, an extension of normal human relationships and not a generalisation. I'm not looking for the type of connection where I am the slightest bit interested in empathetic emotions rather the function in itself. Easier that way ...

Kinky Foxx

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I totally agree... :thumbsup:

For too long now we punters have been treated with contempt and distain.    Well, no more I say ... We have rights too don't we? 

We need a Punters Charter.

 :rolleyes:  The right to be treated to the respect we pay for.

 : :rolleyes:  The right to 10% discount when punt is delayed through no fault of ours own..

 :rolleyes:   The right to a freshly showered WG on arrival..  Or at the very least, bits, tits and pits..

 :rolleyes:   The right to services that have been agreed to before the meet.

 :rolleyes:  The right, in the event of a B&S, of  a discounted threesome with the switch AND the original booking at a later date.  ( reaching with that one I think).

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Offline datwabbit

I totally agree... :thumbsup:

For too long now we punters have been treated with contempt and distain.    Well, no more I say ... We have rights too don't we? 

We need a Punters Charter.

 :rolleyes:  The right to be treated to the respect we pay for.

 : :rolleyes:  The right to 10% discount when punt is delayed through no fault of ours own..

 :rolleyes:   The right to a freshly showered WG on arrival..  Or at the very least, bits, tits and pits..

 :rolleyes:   The right to services that have been agreed to before the meet.

 :rolleyes:  The right, in the event of a B&S, of  a discounted threesome with the switch AND the original booking at a later date.  ( reaching with that one I think).

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Onto SAAFE and see where the wind takes it

Offline Rochelle

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I totally agree... :thumbsup:

For too long now we punters have been treated with contempt and distain.    Well, no more I say ... We have rights too don't we? 

We need a Punters Charter.

 :rolleyes:  The right to be treated to the respect we pay for.

 : :rolleyes:  The right to 10% discount when punt is delayed through no fault of ours own..

 :rolleyes:   The right to a freshly showered WG on arrival..  Or at the very least, bits, tits and pits..

 :rolleyes:   The right to services that have been agreed to before the meet.

 :rolleyes:  The right, in the event of a B&S, of  a discounted threesome with the switch AND the original booking at a later date.  ( reaching with that one I think).

                                                              WHO'S WITH ME?





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:lol: :lol: :lol:
And when a punter is late?

During a booking, fair enough she should deliver on what's agreed. Outside of a booking, if she wants to go on SAAFE and say shit about punters, that's up to her. Just like how some guys say shit about girls here.
« Last Edit: October 22, 2018, 04:45:33 pm by Rochelle »

Offline datwabbit

:lol: :lol: :lol:
And when a punter is late?

It's a punters charter. Doesn't take into account when we're wrong.

Offline django0700

you're giving the topic too much attention.

They're paid to fuck you, not to like you

 :thumbsup:

Kinky Foxx

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True, honest and decent UKP Punters are never wrong.  ( Lurkers not included).

I nominate our own Mr Foo to take our demands to the head of SAAFE for negotiations.. 

I'd do it myself but I'd just end up shagging and come away with nothing but a smug smile..... :D

Apparently, she is quite a good shag, positively reviewed on here, lives over Scarborough way, quite fit too.... :thumbsup:

Offline ars.mav

Shows the power of money..

I always believe there are 2 powers in this world...


Above the skies GOD...
Below the skies MONEY..
that simple....

 :thumbsup:  :thumbsup:

Offline yorkieyorkie


I think in reality the percentage of WGs who feel like this is probably pretty well equal to the percentage of punters who like to demean women and love the feeling of being able to force their resentment on women because they paid for it.

One can only hope that in the main these types get to meet each other and play out their rancour, while the rest of punting humanity gets on with the job (literally) of indulging in paid sex of various hues in pursuit of the heady mix of pleasure and money enjoyed by either side, and both sides coming out of that transaction feeling good about themselves.

Great comment.

Offline freeze44

True, honest and decent UKP Punters are never wrong.  ( Lurkers not included).

I nominate our own Mr Foo to take our demands to the head of SAAFE for negotiations.. 

I'd do it myself but I'd just end up shagging and come away with nothing but a smug smile..... :D

Apparently, she is quite a good shag, positively reviewed on here, lives over Scarborough way, quite fit too.... :thumbsup:

 :D Is her name Saaffe head?

Offline MrFcuk76

Jaded with attitude problems.
I recently used AW to make an enquiry with an SP.
Shirty reply, I left it a while and she sent another shirty message !
Wtf I haven’t even made a booking or replied... Yet.
Reminded her of her job and even if I did want a booking, its definitely not with you now.
What a twat, blacklisted.

Online scutty brown

Shows the power of money..

I always believe there are 2 powers in this world...


Above the skies GOD...
Below the skies MONEY..
that simple....

You forgot......
Under the earth WORMS...

Autopunter

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Given I've had some terrible WG experiences, that men and women have very mixed attitudes towards each other, and that workers and customers have cussed each others' existences since the year Dot, this doesn't surprise me in the slightest. I've heard enough civvy women chatting among themselves to know that women don't usually hold a very balanced-shades-of-grey about the men in their lives, so it doesn't surprise me that the randos they get paid to fuck don't get cut some mysterious slack;I mean, if you're ugly enough to have to pay for it, do you really think they're sitting at home talking about how romantic you were when you laid the fifty pound notes on the bedside cabinet without being asked?

I like having my ego stroked as much as the next man, but don't be fooled too deeply by the illusion of an SP - ultimately you are just a paying customer and the next one through the door will get the same act. That's not to say that you can't have a certainly wary respect/friendliness for some SPs, but if you want unconditional worship, get a dog. Anyway, it's not like it's all sweetness and love from our side is it? I know I've come here to moan plenty of times in ways I'd never do in public.
« Last Edit: October 22, 2018, 09:46:05 pm by Autopunter »

Offline The Owl

I think, like this site, don't read it unless you have thick skin.

And as a guy you won't even be able to read the 'hidden' board on SAAFE.

+1

Can't handle what the other side thinks of you, don't read it.

Offline Malvolio

Like Theresa May's sex life, this is a topic you're much better off not thinking about.

Offline yorkieyorkie

Given I've had some terrible WG experiences, that men and women have very mixed attitudes towards each other, and that workers and customers have cussed each others' existences since the year Dot, this doesn't surprise me in the slightest. I've heard enough civvy women chatting among themselves to know that women don't usually hold a very balanced-shades-of-grey about the men in their lives, so it doesn't surprise me that the randos they get paid to fuck don't get cut some mysterious slack;I mean, if you're ugly enough to have to pay for it, do you really think they're sitting at home talking about how romantic you were when you laid the fifty pound notes on the bedside cabinet without being asked?

I like having my ego stroked as much as the next man, but don't be fooled too deeply by the illusion of an SP - ultimately you are just a paying customer and the next one through the door will get the same act. That's not to say that you can't have a certainly wary respect/friendliness for some SPs, but if you want unconditional worship, get a dog. Anyway, it's not like it's all sweetness and love from our side is it? I know I've come here to moan plenty of times in ways I'd never do in public.

I agree with everything in that comment except the paying for it cos one is ugly. I’m in my 20’s and decent looking from what I’m told and I CHOOSE to pay for it cos I find dating to be too much hassle.

P.S I know many have said just don’t read what they say and I totally get it. My OP wasn’t anything particularly deep lol. Thanks for all the replies anyway  :hi: :hi:

Offline NigelF

KT you could most likely reduce that down to 87% if you'd stop bathing in Kouros.   :rolleyes:

+100

I've nearly said this myself in the past. It's a heavy scent and only needs a couple of sprays max. Of course it's not as strong as it used to be but the modern formulations are still potent. But honestly though, Kourous (and all it's flankers) is quite a polarising scent and indeed most girls, especially those under 30, actively dislike it. Some girls will like it but it will probably annoy just as many or more and most WGs won't say anything out of politeness.

There are loads of other fragrances out there which are much safer and get much better reactions, almost universally. In my experience if you don't get complimented on your fragrance/how you smell in at least 25% of your punts then you're probably wearing something which is at best dull/boring/can't be smelt and at worst, something that's bad/annoying.

I totally agree... :thumbsup:

For too long now we punters have been treated with contempt and distain.    Well, no more I say ... We have rights too don't we? 

We need a Punters Charter.

 :rolleyes:  The right to be treated to the respect we pay for.

 : :rolleyes:  The right to 10% discount when punt is delayed through no fault of ours own..

 :rolleyes:   The right to a freshly showered WG on arrival..  Or at the very least, bits, tits and pits..

 :rolleyes:   The right to services that have been agreed to before the meet.

 :rolleyes:  The right, in the event of a B&S, of  a discounted threesome with the switch AND the original booking at a later date.  ( reaching with that one I think).

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True, honest and decent UKP Punters are never wrong.  ( Lurkers not included).

I nominate our own Mr Foo to take our demands to the head of SAAFE for negotiations.. 

I'd do it myself but I'd just end up shagging and come away with nothing but a smug smile..... :D

Apparently, she is quite a good shag, positively reviewed on here, lives over Scarborough way, quite fit too.... :thumbsup:

 :D
I'll join Mr Foo on the negotiating team. Watching these Brexit negotiations makes me want to get involved in at least something!

I agree with everything in that comment except the paying for it cos one is ugly. I’m in my 20’s and decent looking from what I’m told and I CHOOSE to pay for it cos I find dating to be too much hassle.

P.S I know many have said just don’t read what they say and I totally get it. My OP wasn’t anything particularly deep lol. Thanks for all the replies anyway  :hi: :hi:

+1

Although given your age, I strongly recommend Tinder, you can get sex with very minimal "dating", many girls do just view it as a hookup app. The key is to get good pics (I think it can work for most average guys and above). It's a nuanced subject but I'd recommend either doing lots of research or getting a professional to help you (and I don't mean studio photos or photoshopped like a bloody prossie). There are drawbacks though, including plenty of timewasters but not all that much more than punting, especially once you're good at weeding them out.

Anyway, I totally agree with what you've said. By no means are all punters are ugly. Unless you're a male model who can shag on demand (and realistically only due to things like social media and tinder) then punting is a great way to get the high variety and volume of sex you want, conveniently and easily. It's also great if you have very niche/unusual tastes. It's also great for "cheating"/getting your fix of variety without getting any emotions involved or having an affair etc. There are many other reasons to punt too.
« Last Edit: October 22, 2018, 11:40:43 pm by NigelF »

Offline winkywanky

Great comment.


I do occasionally have moments of lucidity, thanks for noticing  :hi:  :D

Kinky Foxx

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Hooray... :yahoo:

I managed to find the review of the chairwoman from SAAFE.

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=167870.msg1794188#msg1794188

The Charter for Punters Rights is coming lads.

Just wait till our crack negotiating team of Mr Foo and Nigel F work their magic on Amy, she'll be a quivering wreck agreeing with and putting forward our reasonable

terms to her members.  (Yey).

Go get her team.... :yahoo:



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Offline yorkieyorkie

Interesting points Nigel above. Yeah I’ve been on Tinder before albeit for a short period of time and it just seems like too much hard work lol.

Offline smartieshouse

Re Tinder, I'm told by women that many go on there to have their ego stroked with no intention of actually ever meeting anyone.

Offline fairfield

Given I've had some terrible WG experiences, that men and women have very mixed attitudes towards each other, and that workers and customers have cussed each others' existences since the year Dot .......
Ofc i totally get it that a 20 something wg would hardly be celebrating her punt with a grizzled Oap. But i am afraid i dont really give a flying fuck what she thinks/says about me afterwards - as far as i am concerned she can always console herself by counting the cash.

But what really does get my goat are - the wgs who openly express in an incredible variety of ways, their complete contempt for their punter DURING the punt. And there's way just too many of theses cynical wgs.
At least this site is a godsend - for venting your frustration and marking the offending pro$$ies cards. 

Offline lebon121

Hooray... :yahoo:

I managed to find the review of the chairwoman from SAAFE.

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=167870.msg1794188#msg1794188

The Charter for Punters Rights is coming lads.

Just wait till our crack negotiating team of Mr Foo and Nigel F work their magic on Amy, she'll be a quivering wreck agreeing with and putting forward our reasonable

terms to her members.  (Yey).

Go get her team.... :yahoo:



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Well done. 
 :yahoo:
« Last Edit: October 23, 2018, 08:33:18 pm by lebon121 »
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