What happens if you die during a booking ??

[Proton]

There you are happily having a great time not a care in the world and suddenly, you die during a booking ??  One assumes a quick discrete exit by the provider, ASAP.  Obviously no propositional refund is offered to relatives of the deceased. Does it get a mention in the local newspapers??
                        IT MUST HAVE HAPPENED TO SOMEONE SOMEWHERE 
 

[shed]

                        IT MUST HAVE HAPPENED TO SOMEONE SOMEWHERE 

Think we will have to wait a long time for that SOMEONE to tell us   

[mr.bluesky]

One things for sure is you won't get your money back 

[threechilliman]

Why worry about it, you're dead anyway!

[RAJEC]

This happened once at a flat in Rayners Lane that I’d visited a few times.

I’d popped along one day without calling (my error) and no one was in. Tried again a few days later and went along to be told by the maid that some old boy had popped his clogs whilst in the room, hence why they had been shut. They’d obviously had to call an ambulance, police etc but it seemed to be ok as it was natural causes.

I’m unsure of the finer details and explanations that would have to be given, next of kin etc, but I’d hazard a guess at it being a slightly awkward conversation 

[CanOfRedBull]

It’s an interesting question, especially for those that are super cautious and use a burner phone and don’t carry their ID.  The police could really struggle to identify you.  You’de be a John Doe until they could work out who you actually are. 

The wife would get a surprise 

[fisherofsouls]

It’s an interesting question, especially for those that are super cautious and use a burner phone and don’t carry their ID.  The police could really struggle to identify you.  You’de be a John Doe until they could work out who you actually are. 

The wife would get a surprise 

Unless he was practising good OpSec, the Police will have little trouble associating the burner phone with the victim's legit phone.  It's standard practice now to do location maps which will show in an instant which phones have shared a close location the most (e.g. in the car, at home, at work) and to pull the account details for the legit account(s).  Then some poor soul will be sent off with a snapshot of the deceased's face to find someone who knew him.

Burner phones are great, as far as they go:

• they 100% prevent casual abuse and victimisation by dodgy WGs and small-time crims
  
• they are quite good for hiding your true identity from serious organised crims, assuming you paid cash, always top up using cash, never have the phone switched on in a location associated with you personally
  
• they are practically useless for hiding from the authorities...
  

[Squire Haggard]

A case of coming and going at the same time, both at Scorpio Leisure, Edinburgh.

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[Whiteknight]

Why worry about it, you're dead anyway!

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Not a bad way to go for the last moment of your life   

[Corus Boy]

And in Wales;

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Dr Williams was professor of solar terrestrial physics at Aberystwyth University and one of the architects of Plaid Cymru’s economic policy.

Despite stepping down from his post a month before his death, Assembly Members were urging him to stand for the presidency of Plaid Cymru.

He collapsed at A Touch of Class massage parlour, in Woodville Road, Cathays, Cardiff, and was taken to the city’s University Hospital of Wales in Heath where he died.

[radioman33]

There have been deaths caused by face sitting,be a nice way to go.

[suttonporksword]

You have got some explaining to st paul at the pearly gates naked, oiled up and lipstick on your cock

[Punter S Thompson]

Fuck all. 😂

[Atrueyorkie]

Every punter would be screwed 

Imagine, “how’d you know the deceased” 

[MissWolf]

Every punter would be screwed 

Imagine, “how’d you know the deceased” 

I should think the answer would be....intimately 

If it's an outcall to your own home it's possibly easier for the wg to deal with and for the police and ambulance, I'm not advocating it but she can pack up, tidy up, leave saying noting, she could also once away from the area, call 999 stating she can't get hold of her relative etc, has been trying for hours, she lives away etc and ask for a welfare call. She could also stay if she knows that client is single and call 999 she doesn't have to state her relationship with the deceased.

For an incall to an sp who works from home thats a bit more tricky I would think, I couldn't exactly bundle him out the door dead  so it would have to be 999, clear the room of 'work paraphernalia' and go through pockets for a car key, find car and I would most likely find his correct I'd and phone which can then be placed with belongings and burner phone discreetly placed out of the way, but then by that point the family are going to find out anyhow so 

[scutty brown]

There's a girl in Blackpool who has apparently three blokes die on her..
Two OAPs, and one the partner of another girl in the same pimping group

[Doc Holliday]

If it's an outcall to your own home it's possibly easier for the wg to deal with and for the police and ambulance, I'm not advocating it but she can pack up, tidy up, leave saying noting, she could also once away from the area, call 999 stating she can't get hold of her relative etc, has been trying for hours, she lives away etc and ask for a welfare call. She could also stay if she knows that client is single and call 999 she doesn't have to state her relationship with the deceased.

For an incall to an sp who works from home thats a bit more tricky I would think, I couldn't exactly bundle him out the door dead  so it would have to be 999, clear the room of 'work paraphernalia' and go through pockets for a car key, find car and I would most likely find his correct I'd and phone which can then be placed with belongings and burner phone discreetly placed out of the way, but then by that point the family are going to find out anyhow so 

I understand this would be with the best of intentions, but apart from the fact your adrenaline levels would be so high that it is unlikely you could think any of that through, you would be very unwise to do any of it.

You are not qualified to verify the person is deceased. You must 999 and request ambulance. They will talk you through until help arrives. This will cover you against any liability of 'omission to act'.

[pythondan]

There's a girl in Blackpool who has apparently three blokes die on her..
Two OAPs, and one the partner of another girl in the same pimping group

Blimey - the Angel of Death!

It must be traumatic for a girl for a punter to die on her - imagine if a petite honey was being pumped by a chubber and he expired on top of her 

[lillythesavage]

There's a girl in Blackpool who has apparently three blokes die on her..
Two OAPs, and one the partner of another girl in the same pimping group

My first wife calls herself the black widow, I am the only one still living 

[Proton]

 SORRY~ Just turned computer on and realised I put this in the wrong section, should have obviously been general topics. Thank you all today for your humorous reply, I must do better next time 

[scutty brown]

Blimey - the Angel of Death!

It must be traumatic for a girl for a punter to die on her - imagine if a petite honey was being pumped by a chubber and he expired on top of her 

I don't think the mental trauma was that bad if the stories regarding changed wills are true

[mexicola]

In the post sex chat with a WG we were discussing heart rates after shagging, she mentioned she'd had a client almost go into cardiac arrest, he had chest pains and breathing problems.

 she tried to phone an ambulance but the punter panicked as he didn't want his missus finding out. He got himself dressed and stumbled out the door, she couldn't stop him, so she phoned the police and said she'd seen a guy collapse in the street and then crawl off.

[MissWolf]

I understand this would be with the best of intentions, but apart from the fact your adrenaline levels would be so high that it is unlikely you could think any of that through, you would be very unwise to do any of it.

You are not qualified to verify the person is deceased. You must 999 and request ambulance. They will talk you through until help arrives. This will cover you against any liability of 'omission to act'.

Doc I 100% agree, adrenaline would take over and yes for me I would instinctively dial 999 without any other thought, life is more precious than any personal embarrassment etc and saving life would be my first thought.

I'm not medically qualified although I've done catastrophic 1st aid training due to my job and the machinery I use, I've been 1st on scene in a couple of serious rta situations,  with varying degrees of human casualties,  I've also been present at the point of death when working in the care industry on a few occasions.

But as you rightly say looking in from the outside the post I made are possible scenarios one might think of, reality is always different 

[stampjones]

Or what happens if the girl dies on you? First instinct would be to get the fuck out but I guess it would be pretty easy for the police to trace you. And like doc says the right thing would be to call for help

[markballoon]

I heard a rumour a man died at a parlour in the northwest and they pulled him outside and said they had found him there.

[Stevelondon]

Knowing my luck. I would have forked out £150 and died in the first 5 minutes...
Of course it might be the other way round and the SP pegs out. I'd have to be quick and find out where she stashed the cash before the ambulance/police got there.

I am kidding for gods sake....

Right. True this is.

I was sessioning with a dom many yonks back. We had just finished a very nice cunnilingus ten minutes when she felt unwell. She was having a mild asthma attack. Like the gentleman I am. I not only calmed her and put her at ease. But also got my own inhaler (not needed anymore by the way) out so she could open up those blocked airways.
We became kind of buddies after that episode.
A fellow fetish enthusiast from a BDSM forum who I knew. Visited about a month or so later and he only went and had a heart attack mid sesh.
This time it was her who helped the situation. Called an ambulance and even went with him to hospital. They became even more best buds and remained so until she returned to her native Australia.
Nice girl.

[Thephoenix]

As an ol codger, my favourite massage parlour is Pink Peony in Liverpool, as it's directly opposite the A&E dept at Royal Liverpool Hospital.

[mazda40]

An undertaker will pop round and measure the stiffy

[Slow grinder]

What happens if you die during a booking ... 1) Sergie wil rob you of anything you have on you and hunt down your car and 2) you'll get dumped dowm an alley.

[wristjob]

There are worse things - I once finished shagging this WG who then went and ran to the toilet and started coughing up blood. I was having kittens, called the maid (was an agency) and apparently it was some issue she knew about. The maid then asked if I wanted another girl to finish my time on the booking - no way I just wanted as far away from that room as I could get asap.

[Corus Boy]

I should think the answer would be....intimately 

If it's an outcall to your own home it's possibly easier for the wg to deal with and for the police and ambulance, I'm not advocating it but she can pack up, tidy up, leave saying noting, she could also once away from the area, call 999 stating she can't get hold of her relative etc, has been trying for hours, she lives away etc and ask for a welfare call. She could also stay if she knows that client is single and call 999 she doesn't have to state her relationship with the deceased.

For an incall to an sp who works from home thats a bit more tricky I would think, I couldn't exactly bundle him out the door dead so it would have to be 999, clear the room of 'work paraphernalia' and go through pockets for a car key, find car and I would most likely find his correct I'd and phone which can then be placed with belongings and burner phone discreetly placed out of the way, but then by that point the family are going to find out anyhow so 

I believe they did that with Dr Williams and claimed that they were try to protect his reputation and protect his family.

[arrow0404]

Flip reverse it say the SP dies ?!?!? 

[Thephoenix]

Flip reverse it say the SP dies ?!?!? 

With my legendary oral skills, it's quite common for the lady to experience la petite mort.


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[Slow grinder]

Flip reverse it say the SP dies ?!?!? 

Then you find where she 'stashs the cash' and sod off!

[Doc Holliday]

Doc I 100% agree, adrenaline would take over and yes for me I would instinctively dial 999 without any other thought, life is more precious than any personal embarrassment etc and saving life would be my first thought.

I'm not medically qualified although I've done catastrophic 1st aid training due to my job and the machinery I use, I've been 1st on scene in a couple of serious rta situations,  with varying degrees of human casualties,  I've also been present at the point of death when working in the care industry on a few occasions.

But as you rightly say looking in from the outside the post I made are possible scenarios one might think of, reality is always different 

 

My main point is that it is about covering your back. The scenario under discussion is very 'awkward' and given it is a sudden death under awkward circumstances it will require a degree of 'investigation' Any attempt to complicate that awkwardness by your actions (or lack of) may lead to the sudden death being treated as a suspicious one etc.

If you find yourself with someone who is in danger or has collapsed, there is no legal obligation to treat them (even if qualified to do so) but there is a liability to act in some way which at the minimum level, would be to seek help, report it, dial 999 etc depending on the circumstances.

The minute you make that 999 call, which is logged and being recorded, your back is covered. How it proceeds from there and the eventual outcome does not matter greatly in that respect.

[Hobbit]

I couldn't think of a better way to go. 

[jeanphillipe]

So what if you had booked a 2 hour session but died in 10 minutes. Who does the s.p make the refund out to

[datwabbit]

The jury's out on whether it's heaven or hell.

[Aldebaran]

Many years ago, on Teesside, this did happen. An elderly punter was having a session with a girl who specialised in BDSM when he died of a heart attack. I think the girl simply called an ambulance, there was nothing illegal happening and it really wasn't her concern what his friends and relatives might have made of the situation. I had a punt with the same SP once, but I didn't know about the death until much later when one of her colleagues told me.

[Coriniumstud]

Wouldn’t worry about it,unless you’re with a Rom wg as they’ll probably charge extra

[Colston36]

With my legendary oral skills, it's quite common for the lady to experience la petite mort.


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Since you're en francais, you may like to know that at least one French president - I think it was Faure - died on the job.

[funfungoodguy]

Unless he was practising good OpSec, the Police will have little trouble associating the burner phone with the victim's legit phone.  It's standard practice now to do location maps which will show in an instant which phones have shared a close location the most (e.g. in the car, at home, at work) and to pull the account details for the legit account(s).  Then some poor soul will be sent off with a snapshot of the deceased's face to find someone who knew him.

Burner phones are great, as far as they go:

• they 100% prevent casual abuse and victimisation by dodgy WGs and small-time crims
  
• they are quite good for hiding your true identity from serious organised crims, assuming you paid cash, always top up using cash, never have the phone switched on in a location associated with you personally
  
• they are practically useless for hiding from the authorities...
  

This is true, the authorities can produce all kinds of anlysis from any phone that has connected to networks via the local phone beacons as it moves around. The networking system is able to identify what phones were connected to what beacons at what times and then identify any other phone that was tracking about the same movement profile and bingo. This is how they track and trace the movement and meeting up of criminals who might be trying to deny having been at some place, or near a particular individual. Osama Bin Laden was eventuially discovered because even though the bloke who was working for him would drive 100 miles from the hide out before he turned the 'phone on, he was overheard by a NASA monitoring station one day, using a known code name when using that phone, enabling the CIA people to identify him as a a person of interest then track that guy even though he turned the phone off, which lead them to the hide out.

I doubt NASA would be too bothered if any of us died while with a prostitute, but the Old Bill won't have too much trouble if you have a phone on you.

[Thecunninglinguist]

You could always hope they would wait for rigour mortice to set in for round two?

[willie loman]

Since you're en francais, you may like to know that at least one French president - I think it was Faure - died on the job.

well done if that was without googling, he might be the president who observed when passing a pretty girl. "oh to be 70  again""

[Stevelondon]

Many years ago, on Teesside, this did happen. An elderly punter was having a session with a girl who specialised in BDSM when he died of a heart attack. I think the girl simply called an ambulance, there was nothing illegal happening and it really wasn't her concern what his friends and relatives might have made of the situation. I had a punt with the same SP once, but I didn't know about the death until much later when one of her colleagues told me.

I know the girl you are on about. Saw her twice myself.

[Richthescouser]

My main point is that it is about covering your back. The scenario under discussion is very 'awkward' and given it is a sudden death under awkward circumstances it will require a degree of 'investigation' Any attempt to complicate that awkwardness by your actions (or lack of) may lead to the sudden death being treated as a suspicious one etc.

If you find yourself with someone who is in danger or has collapsed, there is no legal obligation to treat them (even if qualified to do so) but there is a liability to act in some way which at the minimum level, would be to seek help, report it, dial 999 etc depending on the circumstances.

The minute you make that 999 call, which is logged and being recorded, your back is covered. How it proceeds from there and the eventual outcome does not matter greatly in that respect.

Is there an obligation to take an action? If (for example) I see someone riding a scrambler bike dangerously on the road and he goes into a tree, am I actually obliged to do anything at all to help them? Ignore morals and training here - I didn’t think there was the obligation but I believe you’re better placed to actually know than I am.

[Doc Holliday]

Is there an obligation to take an action? If (for example) I see someone riding a scrambler bike dangerously on the road and he goes into a tree, am I actually obliged to do anything at all to help them? Ignore morals and training here - I didn’t think there was the obligation but I believe you’re better placed to actually know than I am.

That's a very good question. Unless things have changed in very recent years and unlike many other countries, an act of omission of 'failure to act' (such as the one you describe) is not, of itself, deemed a criminal act, although some ommisons are. For example if you actually caused the scrambler to hit the tree and did not report it etc. However in other cases it then becomes a legal muddle and you may be prosecuted.

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The scenario under discussion in this thread involves a 'one on one' situation with a fatal outcome and you would be very unwise to not behave 'as expected'.

In general as a bare minimum, just make that 999 call, you could save a life, but you will also cover your legal back.

[lillythesavage]

Is there an obligation to take an action? If (for example) I see someone riding a scrambler bike dangerously on the road and he goes into a tree, am I actually obliged to do anything at all to help them? Ignore morals and training here - I didn’t think there was the obligation but I believe you’re better placed to actually know than I am.

Would human nature not take over? I mean for whatever reason someone got hurt, could you walk away?

[mightymunce]

Die happy

[Richthescouser]

Would human nature not take over? I mean for whatever reason someone got hurt, could you walk away?

Yes, absolutely. There are issues with people riding scrambler bikes dangerously in many areas of Liverpool for example, including more than one fatal hit and run of an innocent pedestrian. I’d happily walk/drive round the bike rider if the only person injured was them without offering any help at all because of the harm they’ve caused in the past.

In general I make a point of being up to,date in basic first aid training and have helped more than one cardiac arrest patient but I wouldn’t always do so if the circumstances were different.