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You can’t pay cash here’: how our newly cashless society harms the most vulnerable
Retailers and banks have been pushing us to use contactless payments and online services for hygiene reasons. But many older, abused and unbanked people still depend on cash. What will happen to them?


So we pay our ladies with cash. As there are fewer ATMs where and when do we get it?
As there are fewer bank branches how do the ladies pay it in? Where can they spend it if even supermarkets demand a card?

Is it an issue or a problem for us and for the ladies?


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You can’t pay cash here’: how our newly cashless society harms the most vulnerable
Retailers and banks have been pushing us to use contactless payments and online services for hygiene reasons. But many older, abused and unbanked people still depend on cash. What will happen to them?


So we pay our ladies with cash. As there are fewer ATMs where and when do we get it?
As there are fewer bank branches how do the ladies pay it in? Where can they spend it if even supermarkets demand a card?

Is it an issue or a problem for us and for the ladies?

Ironically, the most vulnerable are also the most vulnerable from a hygiene/COVID perspective. That's a bummer.

This has been discussed a few times before. The banks have been pushing this for ages; the hygiene issue is just a topical way of encouraging people to ditch cash where they can. There are a stack of reasons why cash sucks, but it wins on 2 key points: it's used pretty much everywhere and it's anonymous. Furthermore it doesn't cost the punter any money to use cash, i.e. no bank charges for getting cash out. At the moment there is no suitable alternative from the punters perspective. I also expect SPs like cash because it's anonymous, i.e. no audit trail.

Offline funfungoodguy

Cant say I am bothered to continue to pay them cash, there's another thread on 'where do they hide their stash' and I'm increasingly disgusted at tax dodgers especially when those who pay tax properly will be paying the bill from keeping the post-Covid outbreak nation afloat and nobody should avoid that burden, particularly those that are known to have worked through the pandemic, nicely stuffing their pockets, selfishly regardless of the risks. If your focus is on getting as much cash in as possible irrespective of any other considerations then the fiddle of cash only as well is a privilege too far. The pandemic has revealed rather a lot about the true morals and values (financial and health) of some WGs.
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ooh i say funfungoodguy,  you're not much fun today are you.
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Offline usroads

Cant say I am bothered to continue to pay them cash, there's another thread on 'where do they hide their stash' and I'm increasingly disgusted at tax dodgers especially when those who pay tax properly will be paying the bill from keeping the post-Covid outbreak nation afloat and nobody should avoid that burden, particularly those that are known to have worked through the pandemic, nicely stuffing their pockets, selfishly regardless of the risks. If your focus is on getting as much cash in as possible irrespective of any other considerations then the fiddle of cash only as well is a privilege too far. The pandemic has revealed rather a lot about the true morals and values (financial and health) of some WGs.

With all due respect I consider some of what you say is garbage. Every self employed owner/driver business likes to get some cash. Maybe you should have a go at Amazon and Google for stashing tax free millions but not working girls - their money goes straight back into the wider economy - not into ofshore tax avoidance schemes

Offline tintin100

With all due respect I consider some of what you say is garbage. Every self employed owner/driver business likes to get some cash. Maybe you should have a go at Amazon and Google for stashing tax free millions but not working girls - their money goes straight back into the wider economy - not into ofshore tax avoidance schemes
I actually know a neighbour few doors away was working through the crisis but not sure if he claimed but a friend is claiming but he only declares 12k a year but earns about 50k, so you don't call that tax avoidance then ?

Offline usroads

That's actually tax evasion and illegal - tax avoidance is different and legal.
Yes of course some working girls are evading tax and it's illegal but compared to the scale of legit tax avoidance shemes it's not in the same ball park

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And if your neighbour earns £50k pa and has legit costs and overheads of £38k pa he will pay tax on only £12k.
Actually he won't pay any tax

Offline vindici

If you want anonymous, then Cryptocurrency is viable. Unlike a bank transfer you can't reverse, appeal or cancel cryptocurrency transactions. So it would be ideal for punting.

However it is not user friendly and can be a nightmare getting it converted to GBP, and then deposited into your bank account. Currently deposits would raise even more questions than the cash being paid in 🤔

My sincere hope is that Crypto can be fully normalised and we can enjoy the convenience of digital transactions, together with the privacy afforded by cash.


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Cant say I am bothered to continue to pay them cash, there's another thread on 'where do they hide their stash' and I'm increasingly disgusted at tax dodgers especially when those who pay tax properly will be paying the bill from keeping the post-Covid outbreak nation afloat and nobody should avoid that burden, particularly those that are known to have worked through the pandemic, nicely stuffing their pockets, selfishly regardless of the risks. If your focus is on getting as much cash in as possible irrespective of any other considerations then the fiddle of cash only as well is a privilege too far. The pandemic has revealed rather a lot about the true morals and values (financial and health) of some WGs.
Seems a bit hypocritical to me to criticise those that you are happy to pay.   :unknown:  If you think they are avoiding tax you shouldn't be paying them.

On topic, cash will be around for a long time yet. Card companies would have to drastically reduce their charges so small outlets could dispense with the minimum charge for card use.

If small shops were made to only accept cards you'd have a situation where they were paying the card company for you to take goods away, plus every child would need a debit card. 
« Last Edit: June 24, 2020, 10:49:09 am by daviemac »

Offline usroads

Contactless card payment could be increased to £150 - or £120 in my case   :) :) :) :)

Offline David50

Don’t know if it’s possible but maybe escorts could register as a business and have a card machine .

Offline Fuzzyduck

Contactless card payment could be increased to £150 - or £120 in my case   :) :) :) :)

Sure, and punters could pay using an anonymous pre-paid card. But how are punters going to get funds onto the card? From their own bank account? Perhaps if you don't have to account for outgoings. Not so good for married punters. The current alternative is funding the card using cash at a corner shop. It really all depends how punters feel about having traceable transactions,


Don’t know if it’s possible but maybe escorts could register as a business and have a card machine .

It's pretty easy to get a machine so long as the SP/Sergei doesn't mind paying 2-3% fee on every gig. It's not so good if you want to remain anonymous and ummm... dodge taxation.

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The new polymer £20 note has an expected lifespan of 20 years, the new £50, due for release next year, should last longer due to less everyday use. Doesn't give me the impression they are going to do away with cash anytime soon.   :unknown:

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It’s very rare I even have any cash as always use Apple Pay .

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New York and other US cities have banned companies going cash-free to protect those that have to use cash.

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Offline Moby Dick

Pay in silver or copper
Anti microbial properties more resistant than plastic notes or cards.
Got £109.99p in two and ones, piggy bank is busting, just like me Moby balls.  :sarcastic:

Gunna take me money and Moby balls round in a wheel barrow to meet the fortunate “support bubble”
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Pay in silver or copper
Anti microbial properties more resistant than plastic notes or cards.
Got £109.99p in two and ones, piggy bank is busting, just like me Moby balls.  :sarcastic:

Gunna take me money and Moby balls round in a wheel barrow to meet the fortunate “support bubble”
Pay with £50, £20 and £5 coins, not as heavy to carry around.   :hi:

Offline Fuzzyduck

It’s very rare I even have any cash as always use Apple Pay .

It's lucky you don't seem to punt much then, eh?

Offline datwabbit

The new polymer £20 note has an expected lifespan of 20 years, the new £50, due for release next year, should last longer due to less everyday use. Doesn't give me the impression they are going to do away with cash anytime soon.   :unknown:

I wonder if these new notes can be cleaned with hand gel and not mess up. Though it might be easier to just use the gel on your hands  :lol:

Offline Moby Dick

Pay with £50, £20 and £5 coins, not as heavy to carry around.   :hi:
Didn’t know they were available in coins.  :hi:
Sliver or copper?

Haven’t got any, never mind seen any, so wheelbarrow it is.

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I wonder if these new notes can be cleaned with hand gel and not mess up. Though it might be easier to just use the gel on your hands  :lol:
As they are plastic and can be washed in the washing machine I would think so.  Gives a whole new meaning to 'money laundering'.   :sarcastic:

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They don't like being ironed.  :D

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Didn’t know they were available in coins.  :hi:
Sliver or copper?

Haven’t got any, never mind seen any, so wheelbarrow it is.
Yeah I've got a couple of £50 coins and a couple of £20s, they are silver, not sure what the £5 coins are made of but they are massive, about 38mm in diameter and got about 13 of those.

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Yeah I've got a couple of £50 coins and a couple of £20s, they are silver, not sure what the £5 coins are made of but they are massive, about 38mm in diameter and got about 13 of those.

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Don’t know how you have the time to collect coins, far too busy collecting train numbers and stamps.

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I had to give up on the stamps,  kept getting high from the glue when licking them.   :sarcastic:

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I had to give up on the stamps,  kept getting high from the glue when licking them.   :sarcastic:

Stick to licking trains.
Not had a sore throat for a few months :unknown:

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Pay in silver or copper
Anti microbial properties more resistant than plastic notes or cards.
Got £109.99p in two and ones, piggy bank is busting, just like me Moby balls.  :sarcastic:

Gunna take me money and Moby balls round in a wheel barrow to meet the fortunate “support bubble”

Make sure that Bubble's time spent counting your pennies doesn't come out of your service time, Moby, or you may end up short changed.   :)

Offline Moby Dick

Make sure that Bubble's time spent counting your pennies doesn't come out of your service time, Moby, or you may end up short changed.   :)

Yeah that did cross my mind.
Also getting past concierge and up the stairs with my balls out, dangling in a wheelbarrow may raise a few more eyebrows than normal, although a wheelbarrow is a good way of maintaining a distance : that’s my excuse.

Edit : never had sex in a wheelbarrow before. :D
« Last Edit: June 24, 2020, 04:37:34 pm by Moby Dick »

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I actually know a neighbour few doors away was working through the crisis but not sure if he claimed but a friend is claiming but he only declares 12k a year but earns about 50k, so you don't call that tax avoidance then ?

So you don't know if he claimed and yet are making accusations. Says a lot.

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Yeah that did cross my mind.
Also getting past concierge and up the stairs with my balls out, dangling in a wheelbarrow may raise a few more eyebrows than normal, although a wheelbarrow is a good way of maintaining a distance : that’s my excuse.

Edit : never had sex in a wheelbarrow before. :D

Here's a better excuse for you Moby


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You can’t pay cash here’: how our newly cashless society harms the most vulnerable
Retailers and banks have been pushing us to use contactless payments and online services for hygiene reasons. But many older, abused and unbanked people still depend on cash. What will happen to them?


So we pay our ladies with cash. As there are fewer ATMs where and when do we get it?
As there are fewer bank branches how do the ladies pay it in? Where can they spend it if even supermarkets demand a card?

Is it an issue or a problem for us and for the ladies?

You can pay cash into your bank at any post office. I use the post office to bank cash more than I got to the branch as all the small banks in my area closed down.

I also have a business account not related to my own name if a client wishes to pay by bank transfer. Always happy to take payment by card saves the client going to find an ATM if he is in a rush.

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Offline sonyvaio

Contactless card payment could be increased to £150 - or £120 in my case   :) :) :) :)

Contactless card payments are limited to £45

But contactless mobile device payments via Apple Pay / Samsung Pay / Google Pay (possibly others) are unlimited - so be careful when wearing your Apple watch when punting :)

Offline HarryZZ

There are a number of businesses that accept cash, VATless cash, it's just a part of life, builders are the main ones blamed for this, the truth is that their businesses are the most scrutinised by the revenue, the story about £50k a year in cash is just ridiculous, think about that, you can't pay for your mortgage, rent, car loan, holiday or anything substantial with that amount of money, the odd meal out maybe, some decent punts, but you'd need to be eating out every night and wearing your dick away to get rid of a grand a week. And that's all part of the story that's often left unsaid, people with cash spend it, pay a man a grand in the bank and much of it will stay there, pay him in cash and he'll spend it, the economy works by having money changing hands, you don't just pay that tax once, VAT and income tax is secured every time you hand it over. Start with £100, 20% VAT immediately, 25% income tax and that's already only £60, the next time it changes hands there's only £35 left. Cash is good, and the government knows it.

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So you don't know if he claimed and yet are making accusations. Says a lot.
Can you read ?

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There are a number of businesses that accept cash, VATless cash, it's just a part of life, builders are the main ones blamed for this, the truth is that their businesses are the most scrutinised by the revenue, the story about £50k a year in cash is just ridiculous, think about that, you can't pay for your mortgage, rent, car loan, holiday or anything substantial with that amount of money, the odd meal out maybe, some decent punts, but you'd need to be eating out every night and wearing your dick away to get rid of a grand a week. And that's all part of the story that's often left unsaid, people with cash spend it, pay a man a grand in the bank and much of it will stay there, pay him in cash and he'll spend it, the economy works by having money changing hands, you don't just pay that tax once, VAT and income tax is secured every time you hand it over. Start with £100, 20% VAT immediately, 25% income tax and that's already only £60, the next time it changes hands there's only £35 left. Cash is good, and the government knows it.
I can tell you now, he declared more  earnings for 3 years to get the mortgage and then got his mum to say the deposit was a gift from her and now he has reduced it to £12k, so he doesn't even pay income tax but does pay NI. I have told him many times he is playing with fire but as you know it cost more to catch them. also he has boasted that he has hidden cashed stashed at home. It does sound like you admire this black economy but you don't feel a bit sorry for the normal PAYE people that have to pay income tax and NI before the VAT.

Offline Bonker

I've heard that WGs can get a chip implant to receive payments. About 6 inches below the navel.
A quick swipe and away you go.

Offline Moby Dick

I've heard that WGs can get a chip implant to receive payments. About 6 inches below the navel.
A quick swipe and away you go.
Doesn’t always work, I find you have to keep putting it in and out until a connection is made. :sarcastic:

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Here's a better excuse for you Moby


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Offline GreyDave

 :hi: Sorry to be the bringer of bad news but it is on cards slowly slowly the cash system is being pulled in mainly to control those that dont pay tax and the naughtier parts of business ...yes the new plastic notes last longer but are also easyier to produce and therefore change the design and call in old ones .

"Oh hello Sir you wish to exchange 4000k in Jane Austins to the New JK Rowling as old jane wont be used ...please explain the cash origin"   :lol: :lol: :lol: whislt calling old bill 

( My ex Father inlaw had bank call police after he took 3000k out to pay builders 3years ago so it happens they said it was agaisnt scamming older customers ..Barclays )

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Banks alreadyquestion cash payment ...yes there will be small numbers of poorer people who dont have accounts or want them be thats progress sorry :unknown: :hi:
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:hi: Sorry to be the bringer of bad news but it is on cards slowly slowly the cash system is being pulled in mainly to control those that dont pay tax and the naughtier parts of business ...yes the new plastic notes last longer but are also easyier to produce and therefore change the design and call in old ones .

"Oh hello Sir you wish to exchange 4000k in Jane Austins to the New JK Rowling as old jane wont be used ...please explain the cash origin"   :lol: :lol: :lol: whislt calling old bill 

( My ex Father inlaw had bank call police after he took 3000k out to pay builders 3years ago so it happens they said it was agaisnt scamming older customers ..Barclays )

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Banks alreadyquestion cash payment ...yes there will be small numbers of poorer people who dont have accounts or want them be thats progress sorry :unknown: :hi:
Have you any evidence that cash is going to be withdrawn in the UK? or that they intend to change the design of banknotes regularly because the Bank of England only change designs about every 20 years at present.

Can you also explain how school children will be able to spend their 40 pence on the way to school without cash if the shop is charged 50 pence for the card transaction.

Cash will be here for a very long time to come.

Offline Adoniron

I've never had a problem getting cash but you do need to plan ahead. I usually withdraw it the day before a punt. Interestingly one SP I've seen a few times is now advertising that she takes card payments, presumably with a WiFi hand held device.

Offline cunningman

Cash will be here for a very long time to come.

This is true, but it doesn't matter whether other people use it.  The problem is that I have increasingly little legit use for it, so while I used to 'use it' to buy sandwiches for lunch and pints in the pub (and actually paid on my CC) - that's all stopped and unlikely to resume in the same way with WFH.

Some withdrawals I could hide by using a debit card in the supermarket.

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This is true, but it doesn't matter whether other people use it.  The problem is that I have increasingly little legit use for it, so while I used to 'use it' to buy sandwiches for lunch and pints in the pub (and actually paid on my CC) - that's all stopped and unlikely to resume in the same way with WFH.

Some withdrawals I could hide by using a debit card in the supermarket.
I agree the need for cash is slowly disappearing and I could imagine those with other half's would find it increasingly difficult to sneak cash out. None of that means we are anywhere near a totally cashless society though.

On someone else's point, why would anybody want or need to pay a builder £3,000 in cash, he wouldn't need to pay cash for materials, it could only be to dodge tax or something like that.

Offline magpie252

Have you any evidence that cash is going to be withdrawn in the UK? or that they intend to change the design of banknotes regularly because the Bank of England only change designs about every 20 years at present.

Can you also explain how school children will be able to spend their 40 pence on the way to school without cash if the shop is charged 50 pence for the card transaction.

Cash will be here for a very long time to come.
Quite the opposite, there was some speculation a couple of years ago that 1p & 2p coins would be removed from circulation.
This rumor was quashed by the Chancellor last year, no plans to remove cash in circulation
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I don't withdraw cash from a hole in the wall, I just get £10 - £20 cashback each time I do a shop.

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Quite the opposite, there was some speculation a couple of years ago that 1p & 2p coins would be removed from circulation.
This rumor was quashed by the Chancellor last year, no plans to remove cash in circulation
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Saving copper was a poor and political decision IMO. The government has, rightly, backed to retain cash for the foreseeable future but the consequence is the cost of using cash use will be subsidised, probably by the banks and retailers who will pass those costs on in other ways.

Offline Watts.E.Dunn

Seems to me they, the  revenooo want cash done away with so as to slow or stop the black econnoney.
 
The virus after time will go away so no contact problems with good ole 'arry nash, and i can't remember the last time i got used notes from the hole in the wall either their always new plastic ones.

Mind you a couple of girls i was was seeing quite regurley were OK taking bank payments via online banking as thers no one here to query no matter to me!

Now i'm sure theres the odd copper or tax collector or inspector who has no qualms seeing Miss Whiplash for a session without dobbing her in it?...

Offline David50

I don't withdraw cash from a hole in the wall, I just get £10 - £20 cashback each time I do a shop.

Same here or I’ll go to the bank . I do not trust Cash machines in the slightest.

Offline Fuzzyduck

Same here or I’ll go to the bank . I do not trust Cash machines in the slightest.

May I ask why?