Central Oxford ideas please

[freeze44]

Hi. Am in Oxford city center this Thursday and hoping to get a punt in between work meetings.

Noticed these profiles:

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Sandra often up my way but not seen here.

Any other ideas for a fun, slim under 30's wg or even a rub and tug place be good if anyone has any. 

[ars.mav]

Oxford is really dry..don't rely on Vivastreet prossies as had couple of bad experiences..

Rihanna is the best one around..

Sara is good (External Link/Members Only)..

Roses is awesome, but she isn't in central Oxford (External Link/Members Only)

[freeze44]

Oxford is really dry..don't rely on Vivastreet prossies as had couple of bad experiences..

Rihanna is the best one around..

Sara is good (External Link/Members Only)..

Roses is awesome, but she isn't in central Oxford (External Link/Members Only)

Cheers for this and good couple of links there 

[mickyD.]

You wont go wrong with Beautiful Blossom sorry i dont have a link

[Lewis]

You wont go wrong with Beautiful Blossom sorry i dont have a link

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It's correct about viva street, what was said above. I've only seen one genuine girl in Oxford that was on Viva St, who was Romanian (aren't they all on viva?). Unfortunately she went back home to Denmark a few months ago. We kept in touch for a little while too when she left Oxford, but sadly she's now severed all communication with me.

Everyone else I've seen that was on Viva have been absolutely dire.

[freeze44]

Thanks for the help and suggestions all  If I get see one will put a review up.

[NigelF]

My advice is to be careful. I've visited Oxford a few times in the past year or so and very few girls took my fancy and even fewer were able to arrange something. The only girl I've ever punted in Oxford was on tour.

Oxford must be one of the worst places for punting in the country (or at least one of the most surprisingly bad), which is a shame as it seems like a nice place to live for the most part.

[ars.mav]

My advice is to be careful. I've visited Oxford a few times in the past year or so and very few girls took my fancy and even fewer were able to arrange something. The only girl I've ever punted in Oxford was on tour.

Oxford must be one of the worst places for punting in the country (or at least one of the most surprisingly bad), which is a shame as it seems like a nice place to live for the most part.

+1

Would have thought a lot of student/young action, but its shockingly bad

[ars.mav]

External Link/Members Only or External Link/Members Only

It's correct about viva street, what was said above. I've only seen one genuine girl in Oxford that was on Viva St, who was Romanian (aren't they all on viva?). Unfortunately she went back home to Denmark a few months ago. We kept in touch for a little while too when she left Oxford, but sadly she's now severed all communication with me.

Everyone else I've seen that was on Viva have been absolutely dire.

Have had some very bad experiences with the Oxford prossies on Viva..completely avoid them, if possible

[Lewis]

+1

Would have thought a lot of student/young action, but its shockingly bad

Too many rich parents funding their education.

15 or so years ago it was a different story. Loads of students in Oxford were whoring to pay their way though college and uni.

Oxford, like most other towns nowadays, the Romanians have moved in and spoilt it for everyone else.

[Boringbob]

Too many rich parents funding their education.

I'd happily shag the mums then

[Boringbob]

So Vivastreet is a no then for Oxford?

I had literally just been looking at this three:
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and was about to tineye and then ask here.  All fake I assume then

[NigelF]

Too many rich parents funding their education.

You're definitely right but I wouldn't have thought that would have changed all that much in the last 15 years, especially since more people than ever go to Uni.

15 or so years ago it was a different story. Loads of students in Oxford were whoring to pay their way though college and uni.

I think one of the key factors is the rise of large grants and loans for living expenses in recent years. In the past, tuition fees were much lower or non existent but they had less financial support for living (although they still had some). As such, more students needed jobs (or some other income source, e.g. parents) to get through Uni.

Oxford, like most other towns nowadays, the Romanians have moved in and spoilt it for everyone else.

It's true that Roms have had a big effect but I disagree that they've totally spoilt it for everyone else, simply on the basis that if a young and decent looking British escort started working in Oxford, then surely she'd absolutely clean up in a matter of days or certainly weeks. And if her service was good she'd make an absolute killing over the months and years.

I think another big factor is rise of webcamming. Young girls don't need to bother with whoring if they can make almost as good (or at least decent) money from webcamming.

Anyway, I genuinely feel sorry for punters who live in or near Oxford. Indeed, I often recommend to WGs they should visit Oxford because there's so much demand with so little supply (of any decent quality). I know accommodation costs are quite high but so are the average prices escorts charge up here so it should work out financially and so it surprises me that so few girls tour Oxford. Perhaps they don't want to take the risk (due to high outlay on accommodation) and they see Oxford as a fairly small place (which it is) with limited punters but clearly they're a missing a trick. 

[NigelF]

So Vivastreet is a no then for Oxford?

I had literally just been looking at this three:
External Link/Members Only
External Link/Members Only
External Link/Members Only

and was about to tineye and then ask here.  All fake I assume then

I suppose it is pretty obvious just from looking at the pics but yes, they're all fake . See here (links expire in around 12-24 hours): External Link/Members Only
External Link/Members Only
External Link/Members Only

Not all of their pics resulted in hits but that's probably because they edited the pics. I'm sure all of the pics they've used are stolen.

[freeze44]

Just a thanks for all the suggestions and points 

I didn't see anyone as from the few ideas had couldn't get it anything sorted.

Agree it seems difficult to find a good wg there and hope things improve!

[Moby Dick]

Only just seen your post.
I was also down that way yesterday. The traffic was shit!
https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=222916.msg2260052#msg2260052
The only girls that were of possible interest were 2 tourers who I have seen before in Manchester.

[Boringbob]

Depending on which side of Oxford you are, Reading is often a good bet.  Unfortunately Oxford is a complete Island in every other direction.
You would expect Banbury to be ripe being slightly lower income/education and highly populated but that is also a desert.

[ars.mav]

Depending on which side of Oxford you are, Reading is often a good bet.  Unfortunately Oxford is a complete Island in every other direction.
You would expect Banbury to be ripe being slightly lower income/education and highly populated but that is also a desert.

+1

[NigelF]

You're definitely right but I wouldn't have thought that would have changed all that much in the last 15 years, especially since more people than ever go to Uni.

I think one of the key factors is the rise of large grants and loans for living expenses in recent years. In the past, tuition fees were much lower or non existent but they had less financial support for living (although they still had some). As such, more students needed jobs (or some other income source, e.g. parents) to get through Uni.

It's true that Roms have had a big effect but I disagree that they've totally spoilt it for everyone else, simply on the basis that if a young and decent looking British escort started working in Oxford, then surely she'd absolutely clean up in a matter of days or certainly weeks. And if her service was good she'd make an absolute killing over the months and years.

I think another big factor is rise of webcamming. Young girls don't need to bother with whoring if they can make almost as good (or at least decent) money from webcamming. 

I also forgot to mention the rise of SeekingArrangement (and similar sites), most students probably prefer to do that or webcamming rather than escorting and it's easy to see why given how much at least some of them stand to make.

Searching just in Oxford for girls aged 18-28 shows around 100 profiles who've been active within the past 3 days.

[ars.mav]

I also forgot to mention the rise of SeekingArrangement (and similar sites), most students probably prefer to do that or webcamming rather than escorting and it's easy to see why given how much at least some of them stand to make.

Searching just in Oxford for girls aged 18-28 shows around 100 profiles who've been active within the past 3 days.

Interesting insights..thanks NigelF 

[Cunning Punt]

I also forgot to mention the rise of SeekingArrangement (and similar sites), most students probably prefer to do that or webcamming rather than escorting and it's easy to see why given how much at least some of them stand to make.

Searching just in Oxford for girls aged 18-28 shows around 100 profiles who've been active within the past 3 days.

Indeed. Similar to the principle of webcamming, though, most of the students on SA - certainly in the Oxford/Reading area - don't want to have sex, certainly not with middle-aged blokes who are at best average looking.

Many expect to be wined and dined plus given a cash allowance and/or gifts on top, just for their company.

If you're good looking and charming, then in some cases you may get them into the sack but even if that is the case, it would probably be after several meetings when you have spent several hundred pounds on allowances and dinners/drinks.

I guess some guys are happy paying pretty young girls to be their friend, so they can get away with it or give up if they're not getting anywhere.

[mickyD.]

The problem in Oxford is not the price or what they can make i know a lot of girls that want to work in Oxford but they cant find anywhere to rent
so many flats have been shut down and that is the problem.
The Roms have not helped but they are not the only ones.
There is only one or two hotels that are safe and it is not easy to find a flat that is going to work 

[Lewis]

You say places are hard to find to rent in Oxford for a WG.

Funny how there are countless adverts on Viva Street by Romanians who have managed to find houses to work from.

[mickyD.]

Yes but i think you will find they live and work with family boyfriends and pimps and who wants to go there. 

[Moby Dick]

Perhaps you could do some reviews of the girls you have seen.

The problem in Oxford is not the price or what they can make i know a lot of girls that want to work in Oxford but they cant find anywhere to rent
so many flats have been shut down and that is the problem.
The Roms have not helped but they are not the only ones.
There is only one or two hotels that are safe and it is not easy to find a flat that is going to work

[Boringbob]

You say places are hard to find to rent in Oxford for a WG.

Funny how there are countless adverts on Viva Street by Romanians who have managed to find houses to work from.

There are a few places with 4 or 5 girls which means they are always a possible fuzz target
In addition the way Oxford is built means that there are few easily rentable services apartments which dont require dodgy parking or a bus

Unlike Reading, say where there are flats galore walkable from the middle of town

[Mkhelen]

Oxford clammed down on students whoring

So 2 years ago I thought it would be a great place to tour as there was the potential business

I toured Oxford once a month but stopped because I wasnt breaking even

Unfortunately the demand wasn't there

Last visit I did an outlay for a decent hotel and went up had 6 poss bookings and only one quickie turned up

Quite a few gangs ring round to book you up to mess up your diary

Accommodation is difficult for visitors
Airbnb require minimal 5-7 days just like the short stay apartments I seeked

It's also expensive outlay when guys don't want to pay the rate you seek

It's frustrating

[NigelF]

Oxford clammed down on students whoring

So 2 years ago I thought it would be a great place to tour as there was the potential business

I toured Oxford once a month but stopped because I wasnt breaking even

Unfortunately the demand wasn't there

Last visit I did an outlay for a decent hotel and went up had 6 poss bookings and only one quickie turned up

Quite a few gangs ring round to book you up to mess up your diary

Accommodation is difficult for visitors
Airbnb require minimal 5-7 days just like the short stay apartments I seeked

It's also expensive outlay when guys don't want to pay the rate you seek

It's frustrating

Cheers for the insight. I don't know what the demand was like 2 years ago but at the moment I'd be very surprised if it wasn't high. Although possibly since guys are so used to it being rubbish they don't even bother to check AW that often (or at least not in the Oxford area as they might just presume it's crap as usual).

What was the rate you sought (say for 30 mins and an hour)?

[Mkhelen]

I did an offer for £110 for an aw booking for the mutual feedback Back then
Pretty standard in the south east area £70 for 30mins  or £140 for 1hr

[Mkhelen]

A hotel room in OX1 was £160 pounds
Vs
A hotel room in OX4 £89 pounds

Both one night stays both 4 star rated hotels decent bed and decent shower
easy acess hotels entry and exit
With nearby easy parking

[NigelF]

I did an offer for £110 for an aw booking for the mutual feedback Back then
Pretty standard in the south east area £70 for 30mins  or £140 for 1hr

Yes, standard for the area. Assuming this is you - External Link/Members Only - I'm surprised you weren't at least busy enough.

Anyway, you should strongly consider touring Manchester. Hotels are cheaper and as long as you don't increase your rates, you definitely should be able to do very well. Don't be put off by the relatively high number of other escorts there because there's absolutely loads of demand in Manchester and it often attracts punters from nearby cities too, especially Liverpool.

[Cunning Punt]

Unfortunately the demand wasn't there

The demand is there - but your working MO, which obviously works for you in your MK base, isn't possibly suited to doing the odd day on tour elsewhere.

I've noted in previous tours that you didn't switch your location to Oxford and certainly not in advance - very few guys look at Escort Tours. If they don't know you're in Oxford, or certainly coming to Oxford, in the first place they won't book you!

Most tourers will switch their location in advance and stay for a couple of days so they can build up awareness, interest and bookings leading up to and during their tour. This also gives them the option of getting pre-bookings from guys with an AW a/c and possibly authentic feedback, cutting out the risk of fake callers.

Many tourers also work late into the evening, meaning they pick up bookings from guys who work during the day.

If you can't chop and change your location on AW due to having a permanent base, only go somewhere for the odd day and can't work into the night because you have a family, then that makes it much harder to make a success of a tour.

Fair enough - you need to make it work for you - but it would be inaccurate to say it's down to lack of demand. SPs providing a decent service for a reasonable price and who can be flexible as well as organised will always make good money in Oxford, whether that be as tourers or residents.

[Mkhelen]

@cunningpunt

Thank you for your reply

I will take that on board

Much appreciated

[sensualencounter]

The demand is there - but your working MO, which obviously works for you in your MK base, isn't possibly suited to doing the odd day on tour elsewhere.

I've noted in previous tours that you didn't switch your location to Oxford and certainly not in advance - very few guys look at Escort Tours. If they don't know you're in Oxford, or certainly coming to Oxford, in the first place they won't book you!

Most tourers will switch their location in advance and stay for a couple of days so they can build up awareness, interest and bookings leading up to and during their tour. This also gives them the option of getting pre-bookings from guys with an AW a/c and possibly authentic feedback, cutting out the risk of fake callers.

Many tourers also work late into the evening, meaning they pick up bookings from guys who work during the day.

If you can't chop and change your location on AW due to having a permanent base, only go somewhere for the odd day and can't work into the night because you have a family, then that makes it much harder to make a success of a tour.

Fair enough - you need to make it work for you - but it would be inaccurate to say it's down to lack of demand. SPs providing a decent service for a reasonable price and who can be flexible as well as organised will always make good money in Oxford, whether that be as tourers or residents.

Great post CP and all tourers should take that advice. Unfortunately, I think some of them want a 100% full diary before they commit to the tour and that's only ever going to work for the "elite" prossies with a big following.