VFM - spend ratio?

[jeezyuk]

Hi, in the past I’ve done some mathematical analyses of TPC parties etc. Today I’m considering a new proposition.

I’m just wondering if any other punters have recorded and analysed:
1. How much they have spent in their punting life cycle on punts
2. Average Cost per hour
3. Average Cost per WG
4. Punting lifespan to date and average spend/year

I’ve worked out I’m currently at:
1. 4350£ total
2. 109/hour
3. 84£/WG
4. 6.5 Years as a punter...700£/year

Add to that : 10£ in AW credits, unaccounted ubers (no more than 100£), punting phone (200£) , credit (50£)... roughly another 400£.. I’m probably grossing 4800£ all in

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Now this covers sex parties, 1-1 etc altogether.

As my total nears 5k£ which for me is a lot of money... I’m just questioning if punting enjoyment is indeed worth the financial drain and whether I am optimally using each £

Would like to get comments and experiences to gauge my spend or value against everyone else’s. 

Thinking that 4K odd would have paid for a superb holiday that I’d have remembered for a lifetime but equally so I’ll remember the sex forever ! 

[arrow0404]

I have lost count which is probably best.
If you add booze and gambling I would have A much smaller mortgage If I don’t partake in these ... but I enjoy my hobby

[petermisc]

Jeez, after 40-odd years of punting, on and off, I wouldn't know how to even start to calculate it.  But in that time I have seen some spectacular girls and had some experiences that I will remember forever - plus a lot that are best forgotten!  If you totted it all up the total cost would probably be truly frightening, but then if you totted up the amount I have spent on other things (drink, holidays, hobbies, etc) it would likewise be frightening.  But then you have to spend the money somehow, you can't take it with you.  Yes, you could have spent it on the holiday of a lifetime, but would you really have enjoyed it more?  If the answer is yes, you are probably in the wrong game.  Remember that, just like punts, holidays can go wrong - your holiday of a lifetime may be memorable for all the wrong reasons if you get taken seriously ill, for example.

[bright0nbreezy]

Lol - I work as a data analyst so I have a spreadsheet for everything and punting is no exception.  My spreadsheet does record visits, time and fees, but also rates each provider in terms of aesthetics and quality of services provided.  It categorically demonstrates that while cost is correlated with aesthetics, it is not correlated with services. 

I've been punting for two years and spent just shy of 5 grand at an hourly rate of £138.50.  I don't look at it in quite the same way as you though.  I've had some 5 star punts and some two star punts that I would rather forget, but it's been money well spent.  But then I have been on holiday as well, so it's not an either or decision.

[workinallweek]

Hi, in the past I’ve done some mathematical analyses of TPC parties etc. Today I’m considering a new proposition.

I’m just wondering if any other punters have recorded and analysed:
1. How much they have spent in their punting life cycle on punts
2. Average Cost per hour
3. Average Cost per WG
4. Punting lifespan to date and average spend/year

I’ve worked out I’m currently at:
1. 4350£ total
2. 109/hour
3. 84£/WG
4. 6.5 Years as a punter...700£/year

Add to that : 10£ in AW credits, unaccounted ubers (no more than 100£), punting phone (200£) , credit (50£)... roughly another 400£.. I’m probably grossing 4800£ all in

———————
Now this covers sex parties, 1-1 etc altogether.

As my total nears 5k£ which for me is a lot of money... I’m just questioning if punting enjoyment is indeed worth the financial drain and whether I am optimally using each £

Would like to get comments and experiences to gauge my spend or value against everyone else’s. 

Thinking that 4K odd would have paid for a superb holiday that I’d have remembered for a lifetime but equally so I’ll remember the sex forever ! 

Cheap 

as you say though the memories live on  (and the videos lol ) . I look at it as therapy  and ive met some people in still in touch with (sadly they are retired  but its cheaper lol )

[Convince Me]

OP, if you were to add the cost of research, it would be much higher. Think of the cost if this great site was not available & the sh*t shags you would of had.

I'm scared to apply your formula as it will show what an ignoramus I've been toward my family & how life could of been different materially. But as others have said this is a 'hobby' & as such I don't need to put a price on it.

[jamiekinkxxx]

I agree with some... lost count and would have had to have kept quite a large spreadsheet!

To get to a ball park figure I am making some assumptions:

- I would have to be closing in on seeing 300 (ProDommes, Escorts, TS, Tantric Massage)
- 22 year punting career... had my first punt in 1998... can still remeber it and her (gorgeous blonde called Dani)
- Averaged (finger in the air) £500 per visit over that time (I prefer longer meets of min 2hrs, but I have done longer and also had 1hr meets)

That means I have spent £150k... eeeeck, however if you average that out.... it is circa £7k PA...

I bet a guy playing gold would spent as much but not have as much fun! lol

[SpaceRaiderDave]

Since I discovered Seeking Arrangement about five years ago my spend has gone up significantly. Before Covid I was spending over £10K per year on all paid sex activities

[jeezyuk]

Thanks all for the good comments. Definitely agree that:

1. You have to spend it somewhere, it won’t go with you to the grave
2. After a while keeping track makes it seem Ollie a bad thing but it is a hobby that brings much enjoyment
3. We’ve all had some stellar punts and ones to forget but that makes it an adventure
4. This site has indeed been a god sent. I remember when I first thought of punting and discovered backpage and adultwork, I had no clue what to do. It was only after I stumbled accidentally on this site and decided to read in depth that I figured out where to go and how to operate. Thanks to all my fellow contributors. I think I have also done my bit giving back in reviews.


I think the reason I got to thinking about all this was primarily because:
- Covid has me idle lol so I have nothing better to think about
- distracting myself from work at hand
- I’ve been grappling lately with the idea of punting while having a partner : both financially and personally. As one said above, a better mortgage and family spend are benefits of not punting but I think not satisfying the urge to punt can be even more damage .. ie lead to extra marital affair etc.
For that reason I think punting costs outweigh the negatives.
- I was also just interested to see how my average spending was stacking up. I started off punting at the 200£/hour mark and slowly stepped it down to the sex party rates or the 60-80£/half hour. Over time that trended my spend and ratios down to what I think is almost acceptable. At 80£ish/WG and 109£ish/hour , I’m not too far off what most of us would consider to be acceptable rates. My aspiration is to stick close to these average figures and punt on a “needs” basis rather than overindulge

Thanks for sharing all the commentary, it’s put into perspective my spend and circumstances !

Would be also interested in how some of you deal with the thought of your £ and your partner after you burst that first sobering load. Back when I was young and single and horny with money to throw, I could cum 5/6 times in 2 hours with no remorse ... now when I bust my gun.. first thing comes to mind is £ gone and “shame on me”  . Anyone else experience that?

[char45]

 Back when I was young and single and horny with money to throw, I could cum 5/6 times in 2 hours with no remorse ... now when I bust my gun.. first thing comes to mind is £ gone

I've been on that journey for several years now, at one stage I was spending about 8-10 grand a year on punting. It didn't seem alot because I was also going out several times a week and even just post work drinks, bite to eat in pub or a takeaway and an Uber could easily come to 100 a night.

Then realised it was a habit and not an enjoyable one so cut out the weekly massages and focussed on a couple of regulars, got into parties as a more VFM way of punting.

Now with Covid when I hand over 100-150 it feels like real money as I'm not spending much elsewhere and my earnings have gone down drastically so when I come I immediately think was that worth it.

Don't know if that will change when hopefully things pick up financially for me but I suspect I'll probably stick to parties and the odd meeting.

[bright0nbreezy]

now when I bust my gun.. first thing comes to mind is £ gone and “shame on me”  Anyone else experience that?

Only when it is a punt that I know I shouldn't have taken, i.e. a b&s or a provider where it was pretty obvious there was no chemistry and I should have walked.  But thanks to the forums these are few ad far between and I am now much better at overriding the little guy downstairs with the loud voice.

[bedhedred]

I ran some stats a while ago and found that a little over half of my toftt or "new to me" meetings were a success. Sadly the other half was more negative than neutral which highlights the risk of wasting money. Some of the most painful negatives were meetings where I could see one or more positive ukp reviews for the girl.

A toftt is pure risk, but getting a shit punt off a recently well reviewed girl doesn't make sense. At that point, I begin to stop trusting the ukp reviews. Makes one wonder what other people think of as positive. Either they are better looking, and get all the advertised services, or they are extremely assertive and push the girl to deliver - something I feel I should not have to do.

My real spend goes into repeat meetings with girls who have made a good first impression.

[SpaceRaiderDave]

....... Makes one wonder what other people think of as positive. Either they are better looking, and get all the advertised services, or they are extremely assertive and push the girl to deliver - something I feel I should not have to do.

There can be many reasons not just the looks or attitude of the punter. Although a good provider should be consistent depending on mood, time of day and other factors they may be less likely to go that extra bit further that impressed the previous reviewers
If its one positive review its easier explained that multiple positives.

[petermisc]

I ran some stats a while ago and found that a little over half of my toftt or "new to me" meetings were a success. Sadly the other half was more negative than neutral which highlights the risk of wasting money. Some of the most painful negatives were meetings where I could see one or more positive ukp reviews for the girl.

A toftt is pure risk, but getting a shit punt off a recently well reviewed girl doesn't make sense. At that point, I begin to stop trusting the ukp reviews. Makes one wonder what other people think of as positive. Either they are better looking, and get all the advertised services, or they are extremely assertive and push the girl to deliver - something I feel I should not have to do.

My real spend goes into repeat meetings with girls who have made a good first impression.

Agreed.

It is very easy to start over-anticipating an SP with lots of positive reviews.  However, different people look for very different things from a punt - some are after a quick p&d, while others are after more of a GFE, for example.  Some aren't bothered if a girl kisses or not, for others it is essential, and so on.  The way I look at it is that just because a number of other punters have had a positive, is no guarantee that I will.  It takes a far more detailed read of the reviews to see what kind of services were offered and such like, and even then I may not click with that particular SP.

I tend to concentrate more on if an SP I am considering has negative reviews.

[jeezyuk]

I tend to concentrate more on if an SP I am considering has negative reviews.

I do the same. I look in depth for what people found bad and glance over the good

[jeezyuk]

Back when I was young and single and horny with money to throw, I could cum 5/6 times in 2 hours with no remorse ... now when I bust my gun.. first thing comes to mind is £ gone

I've been on that journey for several years now, at one stage I was spending about 8-10 grand a year on punting. It didn't seem alot because I was also going out several times a week and even just post work drinks, bite to eat in pub or a takeaway and an Uber could easily come to 100 a night.

Then realised it was a habit and not an enjoyable one so cut out the weekly massages and focussed on a couple of regulars, got into parties as a more VFM way of punting.

Now with Covid when I hand over 100-150 it feels like real money as I'm not spending much elsewhere and my earnings have gone down drastically so when I come I immediately think was that worth it.

Don't know if that will change when hopefully things pick up financially for me but I suspect I'll probably stick to parties and the odd meeting.

Thanks for sharing. Covid really puts the financials into perspective as earnings have dropped for me to. I can’t say I’ve ever been able to splash 8-10k on anything in my life on a regular basis but wow, I hope you had wonderful times! You live once so I hope you got some great rides!

Thanks all for sharing perspective. I’m looking to pace myself and see if this hobby is still worth it £ wise

[Convince Me]

Many times I have thought about a self referral for sex addiction but don't see how life can be better on the other side. Hence why I keep punting in pursuit of the 'golden encounter' & then when I find it; Lucy Mayer I have to keep going. The only restraint is cash in the bank & I'm disciplined not to go in to debt. It hurts for a moment or two that I should be spending more on loved ones. It's the search that keeps me coming back which is why I'm not free to get the calculator out. 30+ years is a fair wedge.

[king tarzan]

I just like to enjoy on beautiful women, nice decent lifestyle good food, and electronics.. simple and humble Simpletto

[jeezyuk]

I just like to enjoy on beautiful women, nice decent lifestyle good food, and electronics.. simple and humble Simpletto

Health + all of the above    and no Covid !

[Malvolio]

Ten years a punter, 156 punts with 98 different WGs.  Mind you, for the first couple of years I used to punt after an evening on the beer, so there may have been a couple of revisits I simply didn't notice at the time.

Total spend would be approaching £15k - but that's manageable for me over such a long period of time, and less than I've spent on my other big leisure cost of watching football.

[king tarzan]

Health + all of the above    and no Covid !

👍👍👋👋🙌🙌🤜🤜👌👌👏👏

[FlatEarther]

I punted very hard for about three years on YLF style duos- either through the russian agencies or actually via most of the HOD roster at one time. At my peak I was upto 2 duos per day plus a solo and around 30 SPs seen per week. Not every week but most. Plus a few adultworks etc. Thankfully i can't count it but it's def in six figures for maybe a couple thousand punts. Luckily, have got it out of my system and don't regret it as such couldn't dream of spending that now. Also it was exhausting. Cheaper than some marriages tho. 

[jeezyuk]

Ten years a punter, 156 punts with 98 different WGs.  Mind you, for the first couple of years I used to punt after an evening on the beer, so there may have been a couple of revisits I simply didn't notice at the time.

Total spend would be approaching £15k - but that's manageable for me over such a long period of time, and less than I've spent on my other big leisure cost of watching football.

The dreaded season ticket haha

I used to have two arsenal tickets .. uncle gave up both. Waste of time atm

[jeezyuk]

Cheaper than some marriages tho. 

This comment is gold haha

I wonder if anyone has a thought on how we could quantify ROI from a punt? Or is it binary success or failure? I know some have rating systems

[magnetico]

. At my peak I was upto 2 duos per day plus a solo and around 30 SPs seen per week.

30 girls per week?

[jeezyuk]

30 girls per week?

Imagine how many reviews outstanding

[FlatEarther]

Imagine how many reviews outstanding

Well i've tried to review. My punting story is. I decided the single life was the way forward. Tried celibacy for around 8 years then things lined up for a blow out. Started with massages etc but nothing fulfilled ofc. Discovered UKP in '16. Discovered YLF reviews in '17 (I'm not YLF, but I do know who is- I hope he stays). And basically punting became a lifestyle for three years. I've been known to be feisty, hence my 'experience' was never really valued here... especially when Diva and HOD were poo pooed by the majority here. I did actually start out with YLF's fav agency hot collection and i have to agree it was excellent in terms of comms and pricing. Later I moved to mainly Diva. That was also a time when the HOD empire was very much targeted, which I understand. But again it had me intrigued. Adultwork only occasionally provided what I wanted. The combo of the Russian high end duos and HOD for volume worked great. I think I was the first punter to really go for it with duos at HOD- 140 for half an hour of four tits and two pussies seemed too good to be true. At one time I had seen pretty much the whole active roster. In terms of the russian girls I think 2017-2018 was the peak of finding £200-300 early 20s modelesque girls who really delivered. Not sure we'll see that again. If it wasn't for UKP I wouldn't have found my MO for punting. But like i say, whenever I've spoken here in the past I've got people's backs up. I guess at that point punting was almost a career for me so I prolly was a bit arrogant about it. Especially when I thought it was a shame YLF had been banned and the agencies and HOD were essentially blacklisted here. I remember reading KT saying he would never use an agency, trying it for the first time, having a bad experience; and quickly going back to Diva from adultwork. And now look. Adultwork punting just doesn't do it for me, although I have found a gem or two. Now that Diva seems to be almost a go to for reviews there's probably only minimal i can add; but I keep coming back here, cos like i say without UKP wouldn't have discovered YLF or model duos or even realised that HOD is great VFM and a safe enviroment. Me thinks post covid it will be gone. This is an example of the finest diva honey I saw. Called 'Alaska' if she ever comes back. Siberian catwalk model and had her 21st birthday around the time I started seeing her. Most of my HOD reviews are on another site. Even tho i'm pretty much done punting i'd kinda like to stay this time cos having punted so hard i can def relate to a lot that is said here. And despite the public perception I know it's just a cohort of normal blokes... 

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[petermisc]

30 girls per week?

That's over 4 a day.  Allowing for time travelling to and from each appointment, plus time to set them up, surprised he had time to do anything else.

[FlatEarther]

That's over 4 a day.  Allowing for time travelling to and from each appointment, plus time to set them up, surprised he had time to do anything else.

Well that's what i said. Exhausting. And i've not worked for quite a while.

[king tarzan]

Well i've tried to review. My punting story is. I decided the single life was the way forward. Tried celibacy for around 8 years then things lined up for a blow out. Started with massages etc but nothing fulfilled ofc. Discovered UKP in '16. Discovered YLF reviews in '17 (I'm not YLF, but I do know who is- I hope he stays). And basically punting became a lifestyle for three years. I've been known to be feisty, hence my 'experience' was never really valued here... especially when Diva and HOD were poo pooed by the majority here. I did actually start out with YLF's fav agency hot collection and i have to agree it was excellent in terms of comms and pricing. Later I moved to mainly Diva. That was also a time when the HOD empire was very much targeted, which I understand. But again it had me intrigued. Adultwork only occasionally provided what I wanted. The combo of the Russian high end duos and HOD for volume worked great. I think I was the first punter to really go for it with duos at HOD- 140 for half an hour of four tits and two pussies seemed too good to be true. At one time I had seen pretty much the whole active roster. In terms of the russian girls I think 2017-2018 was the peak of finding £200-300 early 20s modelesque girls who really delivered. Not sure we'll see that again. If it wasn't for UKP I wouldn't have found my MO for punting. But like i say, whenever I've spoken here in the past I've got people's backs up. I guess at that point punting was almost a career for me so I prolly was a bit arrogant about it. Especially when I thought it was a shame YLF had been banned and the agencies and HOD were essentially blacklisted here. I remember reading KT saying he would never use an agency, trying it for the first time, having a bad experience; and quickly going back to Diva from adultwork. And now look. Adultwork punting just doesn't do it for me, although I have found a gem or two. Now that Diva seems to be almost a go to for reviews there's probably only minimal i can add; but I keep coming back here, cos like i say without UKP wouldn't have discovered YLF or model duos or even realised that HOD is great VFM and a safe enviroment. Me thinks post covid it will be gone. This is an example of the finest diva honey I saw. Called 'Alaska' if she ever comes back. Siberian catwalk model and had her 21st birthday around the time I started seeing her. Most of my HOD reviews are on another site. Even tho i'm pretty much done punting i'd kinda like to stay this time cos having punted so hard i can def relate to a lot that is said here. And despite the public perception I know it's just a cohort of normal blokes... 

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Agency I see the best..
Better looking hotties from Russia...
The Adultworks pool is mostly fucken ugly minghers and rundown shitholes... No thanks

[FlatEarther]

Agency I see the best..
Better looking hotties from Russia...
The Adultworks pool is mostly fucken ugly minghers and rundown shitholes... No thanks

I remember (from your post) your first agency experience which didn't go well- was an early 20s brunette russian, earls court i think. I also remember u initially being dubious about the agencies. As I said if it were not for the YLF reviews wouldn't have known slavic beauties existed in London for ok rates. A lot of them in 2017-2019 were basically student types or just finished uni and saving up rather than career whores.

In terms of Jeezy's idea for the thread...

Two early 20s slavics for 500ph is probs as good as it gets imho.

I've punted regularly from 130ph (HOD) to upto 4 figs per hour.

I would pay 300-500 ph for a model type but they are few and far between to be fair.

I think i've seen around 5-10 SPs who could be catwalk models despite aiming for that regularly.

[puntingpumping1920]

Well i've tried to review. My punting story is. I decided the single life was the way forward. Tried celibacy for around 8 years then things lined up for a blow out. Started with massages etc but nothing fulfilled ofc. Discovered UKP in '16. Discovered YLF reviews in '17 (I'm not YLF, but I do know who is- I hope he stays). And basically punting became a lifestyle for three years. I've been known to be feisty, hence my 'experience' was never really valued here... especially when Diva and HOD were poo pooed by the majority here. I did actually start out with YLF's fav agency hot collection and i have to agree it was excellent in terms of comms and pricing. Later I moved to mainly Diva. That was also a time when the HOD empire was very much targeted, which I understand. But again it had me intrigued. Adultwork only occasionally provided what I wanted. The combo of the Russian high end duos and HOD for volume worked great. I think I was the first punter to really go for it with duos at HOD- 140 for half an hour of four tits and two pussies seemed too good to be true. At one time I had seen pretty much the whole active roster. In terms of the russian girls I think 2017-2018 was the peak of finding £200-300 early 20s modelesque girls who really delivered. Not sure we'll see that again. If it wasn't for UKP I wouldn't have found my MO for punting. But like i say, whenever I've spoken here in the past I've got people's backs up. I guess at that point punting was almost a career for me so I prolly was a bit arrogant about it. Especially when I thought it was a shame YLF had been banned and the agencies and HOD were essentially blacklisted here. I remember reading KT saying he would never use an agency, trying it for the first time, having a bad experience; and quickly going back to Diva from adultwork. And now look. Adultwork punting just doesn't do it for me, although I have found a gem or two. Now that Diva seems to be almost a go to for reviews there's probably only minimal i can add; but I keep coming back here, cos like i say without UKP wouldn't have discovered YLF or model duos or even realised that HOD is great VFM and a safe enviroment. Me thinks post covid it will be gone. This is an example of the finest diva honey I saw. Called 'Alaska' if she ever comes back. Siberian catwalk model and had her 21st birthday around the time I started seeing her. Most of my HOD reviews are on another site. Even tho i'm pretty much done punting i'd kinda like to stay this time cos having punted so hard i can def relate to a lot that is said here. And despite the public perception I know it's just a cohort of normal blokes... 

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Sounds like complete bollocks
 
If you fucked 30 girls per week then you're spending min six figures on this hobby
 
You need to post proof (reviews) for punters to believe that

[puntingpumping1920]

The Adultworks pool is mostly fucken ugly minghers and rundown shitholes... No thanks

 
KT, you know that isn't true
 
Agencies like Diva only beats A/W in its convenience.
For instance, I can book a girl for 3am booking at an agency at short notice....On A/W it may take you some time to find that girl
 
A/W beats agencies on choices and price

[Wood2017]

 
Sounds like complete bollocks
 
If you fucked 30 girls per week then you're spending min six figures on this hobby
 
You need to post proof (reviews) for punters to believe that

He did say earlier up in the thread he'd spent a 6 figure sum.

I'm not saying that like i know it to be true or anything just that he'd already said about spending that much money

[FlatEarther]

He did say earlier up in the thread he'd spent a 6 figure sum.

I'm not saying that like i know it to be true or anything just that he'd already said about spending that much money

 
Sounds like complete bollocks
 
If you fucked 30 girls per week then you're spending min six figures on this hobby
 
You need to post proof (reviews) for punters to believe that

It is what it is. I've explained myself above. Maybe UKP should start verifying reviews- selfie of SP and punter perhaps?

I'm not here to brag or boast.

Reminisce maybe.

I've said above that my history with UKP goes back to 2017; I guess seeing YLF back reviewing enabled my to find my voice again, plus management opening the doors.

After YLF was booted, the agency reviews pretty much disappeared and it was the usual adultwork stuff. YLF has got a lot of stick, partly for stuff I have no comment on; but also being called a fantasist. Which I guess you are labelling me. I'm here to say that i think YLF's reviews were real; I punted that way for a long time; and if u have the cash I think it's the best way to punt. And yes even with means (unless you have millions to burn); a site like this can be very useful. Whilst I spent a lot; I think it's the best punting experience non Illuminati grade plebs can get.

My duo and trio reviews of the HOD roster are available on another site; I think I have around 50 reviews of around 100 SPs over a year or so circa 2018. I have another review to post on there sometime in which I will name drop you, PP1920...

Ps also my review of Alaska aka Lolita at Barracuda will be there

 

[king tarzan]

It is what it is. I've explained myself above. Maybe UKP should start verifying reviews- selfie of SP and punter perhaps?

I'm not here to brag or boast.

Reminisce maybe.

I've said above that my history with UKP goes back to 2017; I guess seeing YLF back reviewing enabled my to find my voice again, plus management opening the doors.

After YLF was booted, the agency reviews pretty much disappeared and it was the usual adultwork stuff. YLF has got a lot of stick, partly for stuff I have no comment on; but also being called a fantasist. Which I guess you are labelling me. I'm here to say that i think YLF's reviews were real; I punted that way for a long time; and if u have the cash I think it's the best way to punt. And yes even with means (unless you have millions to burn); a site like this can be very useful. Whilst I spent a lot; I think it's the best punting experience non Illuminati grade plebs can get.

My duo and trio reviews of the HOD roster are available on another site; I think I have around 50 reviews of around 100 SPs over a year or so circa 2018. I have another review to post on there sometime in which I will name drop you, PP1920...

Ps also my review of Alaska aka Lolita at Barracuda will be there

 

Stick with Maradona not YLF

[puntingpumping1920]

I remember (from your post) your first agency experience which didn't go well- was an early 20s brunette russian, earls court i think. I also remember u initially being dubious about the agencies. As I said if it were not for the YLF reviews wouldn't have known slavic beauties existed in London for ok rates. A lot of them in 2017-2019 were basically student types or just finished uni and saving up rather than career whores.

In terms of Jeezy's idea for the thread...

Two early 20s slavics for 500ph is probs as good as it gets imho.

I've punted regularly from 130ph (HOD) to upto 4 figs per hour.

I would pay 300-500 ph for a model type but they are few and far between to be fair.

I think i've seen around 5-10 SPs who could be catwalk models despite aiming for that regularly.

If you was following YLF's reviews so closely

Why didn't you register to post your own reviews...the registration door closed in 2019, so you had an opportunity create an account

[Supersix4]

When I started punting years back I would budget £100 / mth for a single punt. Some good, some great and some not so good. There was no 'research' no UKP to evaluate the AW girls. You took a punt.

As i got older my habits changed and i would book who every i fancied, sometimes 2-3 times in a week if i liked them. Its then i stopped keeping count of the money..

[FlatEarther]

If you was following YLF's reviews so closely

Why didn't you register to post your own reviews...the registration door closed in 2019, so you had an opportunity create an account

make sure u keep an eye on that other site, sonic 

[FlatEarther]

 
Sounds like complete bollocks
 
If you fucked 30 girls per week then you're spending min six figures on this hobby
 
You need to post proof (reviews) for punters to believe that

Modelfucker Out

Laters Plebs

 

[coolguy12]

 
KT, you know that isn't true
 
Agencies like Diva only beats A/W in its convenience.
For instance, I can book a girl for 3am booking at an agency at short notice....On A/W it may take you some time to find that girl
 
A/W beats agencies on choices and price

I can't bring myself to understand the AW user interface, to me it is so very terrible. I'd rather not use an agency because they take 30% of the girl's hard earned fee but A/W is garbage imo.

Do you guys have much experience with citytourgirls or eurogirlescorts ? Of my two punting experiences, I had one off the latter and the girl was pretty much nothing at all like advertised despite the verification and good reviews (this was before I discovered UKP) and it almost turned me off for good. I was about to meet another two girls off the former website but it didn't work out for covid restriction reasons.

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Do you guys have much experience with citytourgirls or eurogirlescorts ? Of my two punting experiences,

I tracked down this girl on eurogirlescorts middle of last year. She had an independent profile on there, called Tina. Now it's just a link to her Diva profile so I'm guessing they chased her off from advertising privately. Currently charging £500 per hr in Dubai but I paid £180. I think her Diva London price was and will be £300 even though that ad says £250.
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I wasn't going to pay £300 but she is right up my street and I had a feeling she might advertise for less £ because I had come across her old ads, including a now defunct AW one. She almost became a regular but her place was probably the scruffiest I've ever been to - terrible, grotty shower shared by male flatmate. I couldn't believe Diva would let her charge such high rates there.