Dr Spanks

[CoolTiger]

In the past, numerous girls have made comments about this low-life, as to how he tries to get freebies out of newbie WGs, cons them into joining his "elite" group (then refuses to unlink them), pretends that he can work MMF, can act as a taxi driver, nicks their AW PG Credits, and even tries it on to get BB sex from the girls.

Here is the latest rant from one of the girls he duped into joining his group. He kept hacking into her account, changing her age to 35+, deliberately altering one of the numbers in her contact number so that calls do not get through to her (she was furious as she only works 1 day a week/fortnight, in a hotel 60+ miles away from home), and if he falls out with the girls, he uses numerous PAYG numbers to make false bookings with girls,making her turn away genuine punters.

"I HAVE JUST FOUND THAT MY ACCOUNT WAS HACKED WITH SOMEONE CHANHING MY DATE OF BIRTH AND TAKING MY PHONE NUMBER DOWN I DO APOLOGISE IF YOU HAVE BEEN TRYING TO OR WANTING TO GET HOLD OF ME TODAY.

I also would like to point out that I am not in ANYWAY afilliated with DR Spanks I was conned into been linked to his site and the twat wont take me down from it!! I have complained to AW and am waiting have it taken off"

Girls's Profile:
External Link/Members Only or External Link/Members Only

This is his Group:
External Link/Members Only or External Link/Members Only

Previous threads on him:
https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=14748.100
https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=21539.msg321378#msg321378
https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=11618.0
https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=11088.0

[Steve2]

IF she has been able to get back into her account, why hasn't she changed her password and deleted all the links to him?

Confused

 

[CoolTiger]

IF she has been able to get back into her account, why hasn't she changed her password and deleted all the links to him?

Confused

 

From what I understand, once you are part of a group, whilst you can change password and amend you profile, you can't unlink yourself from that group without the group administrator(?) agreeing to unlink you.

[TheDoctor]

From what I understand, once you are part of a group, whilst you can change password and amend you profile, you can't unlink yourself from that group without the group administrator(?) agreeing to unlink you.

I'm 99% certain that is correct.

Dr Spanks used to specialise in trying to coerce independent English outcall girls into his group. Since those were exactly the girls I was booking, he was 'mentioned in dispatches' frequently by the girls I saw. None had anything good to say about him.

[Louise 100% British]

This is true.
I was part of his group years ago.
I met him in Bristol, I was working there and he came from london to meet me,
and he seemed to think that he would get a freebie. Luckily I was with a friend so he left pretty quickly.
After this i understood he was a twat, asked him to unlink me, but before he did he stole £1000's of my credits.
He had taken a copy of my photos etc and stuck them on a profile up North, took me ages to find them but AW did take it down.
He thinks he is some kind of pimp, but in reality he is utterly useless.
He definitely preys on newbies.

[CoolTiger]

This is true.
I was part of his group years ago.
I met him in Bristol, I was working there and he came from london to meet me,
and he seemed to think that he would get a freebie. Luckily I was with a friend so he left pretty quickly.
After this i understood he was a twat, asked him to unlink me, but before he did he stole £1000's of my credits.
He had taken a copy of my photos etc and stuck them on a profile up North, took me ages to find them but AW did take it down.
He thinks he is some kind of pimp, but in reality he is utterly useless.
He definitely preys on newbies.

Louise
Thanks for the confirmation about Dr Spanks and his dodgy methods.

Can you please confirm that you were only able to unlink from his group AFTER he authorised to unlink you, i.e. a definite confirmation that it is down to him (or a group administrator) to unlink you from a group.

[Louise 100% British]

Yes. Otherwise I would have unlinked myself without his permission.
We are going back 4 years now. Can't believe he is still around.

[Stealthshagger]

Worth pointing out this thread:

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=11618.msg259607#msg259607

He's violent, etc. a real scumbag preying on WGs. I'll always avoid any profile or wig associated with him. The loulou wg was associated with him by link, I don't know if she still is.

[CoolTiger]

Yes. Otherwise I would have unlinked myself without his permission.
We are going back 4 years now. Can't believe he is still around.

Hi there, it's LadyRae here....

Yet Dr Spanks is another story. I have to thank him too for spending nearly £200 of my credits on looking at other girl's pictures and movies.... after being tricked into joining his "Group"

Shame on AW for not allowing escorts to leave these groups on their own accord.... One must be allowed to leave by the manager. I asked him to allow me to leave, surprise surprise I couldn't. Once my nose has been mended I intend to set up another profile. I'm sick of being had up my no good lazy wanna be pimps!!!!

Louise, you were lucky to be able to unlink yourself without his permission. Ladyrae was not able to do this.

[Louise 100% British]

You read it wrong.
He had to unlink me.
I was just saying if i could have removed the profile myself i would have and then i wouldn't have lost all my money.

[CoolTiger]

I'm 99% certain that is correct.

Dr Spanks used to specialise in trying to coerce independent English outcall girls into his group. Since those were exactly the girls I was booking, he was 'mentioned in dispatches' frequently by the girls I saw. None had anything good to say about him.

You read it wrong.
He had to unlink me.
I was just saying if i could have removed the profile myself i would have and then i wouldn't have lost all my money.

Mis-read your post.  Thanks for the clarification.

This confirms what we've always thought, that until a group manager unlinks you, you have no chance of dis-associating yourself from that group.


Regarding the stealing of your AW Credits.... Did he know your password at the time, or is this something the group manager can do at anytime, even if they don't know the password for your profile.

[Steve2]

From what I understand, once you are part of a group, whilst you can change password and amend you profile, you can't unlink yourself from that group without the group administrator(?) agreeing to unlink you.

Not as easy as I thought then

[Timo]

Really good thread.
There are a couple of scumbags in the Birmigham area who are doing exactly the same thing. Once l have enough conclusive evidence l will post on UKP.
These pimps are doing us punters no favours, nor do they "help"the prossies but simply parasite off them.

[cornbeefinspector]

why cant AW ban this guy and delete the teen angels links ?

the girls must be complaining to them  surely ??

[Ongbak]

A little while ago I sent all the members of the group a message containing a link to threads on here after reading about him, people like him annoy me and I felt that I should have let them know about him. Some of the members got back to me and appreciated that I let them know, about 5 of them told me about him trying to get freebies and that they had sussed him out. I think 2 or maybe even 3 of them even left the group.

But, and it saddens me to say this, some of them seemed to be under his spell and didn't believe a word of it. He had messaged them feeding them some bs and they actually took his word for it. 

[Dani]

A group manager has to choose to unlink you and AW do not allow you to set up another profile while the group has one of you.  No matter how many times you change your password the group owner has full control of it and can change it any time he chooses.  He can also read and answer emails as well as transfer all your credits to himself.

Again AW fall down on this as a group manager should not have full control of everything including passwords.  A prossie should be able to unlink her profile anytime she chooses and not have to try and beg and threaten AW to get it removed.  A lot do have to threaten AW for using their photos without permission to get it taken from the group and this tends to work so if any prossie needs to get herself removed she just has to ell AW the group manager does not have permission to use her photos and AW will unlink the profile  (silly really as there is not much one can do if someone else uses your photos as copyright infringement is a long and costly step to take and most would not bother but AW tend to not take the risk

[SirFrank]

What a complete scumbag. I've heard of those douchebag before but not sure why. Think I might have come across his profile through a girl on aw. Is there a link for him on any of the WG websites? Complete exploitation.

Re above can I just ask how he manages to hook you in? Does he seem nice plausible etc on first contact?

[Dani]

Oh the perfect gent.  He picks on girls with new profiles like so many do and pretends he can give them higher rankings (new girls don't realise all you have to do is update).  He offers to vet your clients so you don't have to deal with TWs and guys with bad reps elsewhere which cant happen if you have your phone number on your profile.  New girls fall for it as he plays on all the bad points about this job and girls feel safer until they realise he isn't doing any of that and takes all your credits.  No different to a lot of group managers really although there are some good ones but with a group you don't have any control over your own emails even le alone what content is on your profile

[Ali Katt]

Here's a copy of jane's profile incase spanks removes it:
External Link/Members Only

[SirFrank]

Can girls complain to AW about this scum bucket?

[Roland D Hay]

I do wish we could stop crediting Dr Wanks and other pimps with the intelligence to hack into AW accounts. The fact is that girls stupidly hand over their log in details then feel so stupid that they claim their accounts have been hacked. As I've said before, the vast majority of hacking is achieved through the process of social engineering... Gaining the persons trust so that they hand over enough information to allow the 'hacker' to log into their account. It isn't really a complex technical process. 

[Taggart]

Maybe I've missed something, but in order to free yourself from him and his group in the absence of any positive action by AW, why cant the following be undertaken:

Buy new PAYG sim for new number
delete all cookies and history from browser (and keep doing so regularly)
reboot modem to get different IP address
create new AW profile with new photos and new nickname
when he emails, block him
Dont tell anyone login password and include unusual characters

[cunnyhunt]

Maybe I've missed something, but in order to free yourself from him and his group in the absence of any positive action by AW, why cant the following be undertaken:

Buy new PAYG sim for new number
delete all cookies and history from browser (and keep doing so regularly)
reboot modem to get different IP address
create new AW profile with new photos and new nickname
when he emails, block him
Dont tell anyone login password and include unusual characters

It will fail at the first line for prossies that he deceives

[Louise 100% British]

I do wish we could stop crediting Dr Wanks and other pimps with the intelligence to hack into AW accounts. The fact is that girls stupidly hand over their log in details then feel so stupid that they claim their accounts have been hacked. As I've said before, the vast majority of hacking is achieved through the process of social engineering... Gaining the persons trust so that they hand over enough information to allow the 'hacker' to log into their account. It isn't really a complex technical process. 

It isn't about being stupid.
If I had known he could "hack" into my account then I would never have allowed him to link me.
Naive maybe but I was new to the business so didn't have a clue about all of the people that prey on new girls.
There isn't enough warning on aw about the power of a group administrator.  If there is now then there wasn't when I joined teen angels.
It isn't like any group administrator would actually say to a girl by the way I have complete power over your profile and this includes access to your credits etc. Can you join me. I doubt he would lure anyone in that way.

[SirFrank]

However 'naive' some new girls may or may not have been the reality is that this guy is a con man. There really is only one person to blame here. I hope at the very least the girls have spread the word about this loser

[overhead]

Interesting thread.

I've seen Dr Spanks mentioned at the bottom of some AW profiles but didn't pay attention at first. Then I noticed that the profiles that had it were unlikely to be genuine, so I now move on every time I see it. It's become a flag for me to move on quickly, and I do that every time I see a link or any association with a group or whatever. They are all cons.

[Roland D Hay]

It isn't about being stupid.
If I had known he could "hack" into my account then I would never have allowed him to link me.
Naive maybe but I was new to the business so didn't have a clue about all of the people that prey on new girls.
There isn't enough warning on aw about the power of a group administrator.  If there is now then there wasn't when I joined teen angels.
It isn't like any group administrator would actually say to a girl by the way I have complete power over your profile and this includes access to your credits etc. Can you join me. I doubt he would lure anyone in that way.

Yes, fair enough, stupid was probably the wrong choice of word and I can see why newbies to the business might be naive enough to give account access privileges to scumbags like this. The only point I was making is that these people ain't genius software and system hackers, they are simply handed access information so I struggle to understand why girls then claim they have been hacked.

[Strawberry]

Yes, fair enough, stupid was probably the wrong choice of word and I can see why newbies to the business might be naive enough to give account access privileges to scumbags like this. The only point I was making is that these people ain't genius software and system hackers, they are simply handed access information so I struggle to understand why girls then claim they have been hacked.

I agree with this, hacking is breaking in electronically, if he already has the password then hacking hasn't occured, he's simply walked in with the info you gave him.

I think there have only ever been 2 occasions that I've given ANY password to anyone, both were in situations when there really was no other option. I do hear of people using obvious passwords, and giving them out lacksidasically a bit how folk used to be with PIN numbers and credit cards.

Unfortunately there are plenty of con-merchants out there, and the number of guys who will offer to help you out, give advice etc when you are new, and even later on is quite high. Plenty of trouble arises when the other party wants to manipulate methods to their own ends, or you have a fall out.

Best to keep as much as you can within your own control.

[Louise 100% British]

Yes, fair enough, stupid was probably the wrong choice of word and I can see why newbies to the business might be naive enough to give account access privileges to scumbags like this. The only point I was making is that these people ain't genius software and system hackers, they are simply handed access information so I struggle to understand why girls then claim they have been hacked.

Hopefully AW will take him off.
When it happened to me, at least it made me more aware of the con artists around. Haven't joined a group since thats for sure.

[James999]

Pro$$ies love emptive words,

Hacker = Guy who uses the password as allowed 

Stalker = Anyone who contacts them more than once 

Weirdo = Anyone who asks for a discount 

Pervert = Anyone who walks out on them 

Unhygenic = Annyone who gives them a poor review 

[Mara]

I don't get this whole belonging to a group thing. What are the advantages of giving someone full access to a profile, emails and credits?

Higher search ranking? To my knowledge a client won't book a WG just because she is on top of the list or part of a group, she would also have to fit his criteria. And if she fits his criteria her profile will come up anyway. The genuine clients will go through all these profiles to make a decision and not just click on the first one to send a booking request.

Writing the content of the profile? Is a group administrator some kind of online marketing genius who has special knowledge of SEO or secret wording that turns a potential client into a paying customer?
Safety? These so called group administrators are hiding behind a computer screen and certainly won't be helpful in case that one of their group bunnies gets into trouble.

with a group you don't have any control over your own emails even le alone what content is on your profile

IMO, if a WG doesn't have any control of her profile content, emails, services on offer and her credits after joining a group she would clearly lose her status as an independent escort.

[Ali Katt]

For adultwork to remove the group they would have to remove every single profile linked to it. Which I can't see happening.

[Corus Boy]

For adultwork to remove the group they would have to remove every single profile linked to it. Which I can't see happening.

Think of all the Credits that they would impound!!!!!!! 

[Louise 100% British]

I don't get this whole belonging to a group thing. What are the advantages of giving someone full access to a profile, emails and credits?

Higher search ranking? To my knowledge a client won't book a WG just because she is on top of the list or part of a group, she would also have to fit his criteria. And if she fits his criteria her profile will come up anyway. The genuine clients will go through all these profiles to make a decision and not just click on the first one to send a booking request.

Writing the content of the profile? Is a group administrator some kind of online marketing genius who has special knowledge of SEO or secret wording that turns a potential client into a paying customer?
Safety? These so called group administrators are hiding behind a computer screen and certainly won't be helpful in case that one of their group bunnies gets into trouble.

IMO, if a WG doesn't have any control of her profile content, emails, services on offer and her credits after joining a group she would clearly lose her status as an independent escort.

You do get access to your emails and can edit your profile. All uou can't do is remove yourself.
From what I remember of the prick it was more about exposure that anything else. Because his group was so well known 

[Racey_Lane]

It's impossible to leave the group from what I can see.

Whilst setting up a new profile seems the only answer the problem in that is losing feedback and field reports etc.
Also it will be a nightmare replacing all the galleries etc as I don't have many of those pictures now..........

I'm sure that the majority of girls in his group were also tricked into joining like myself and Louise, thinking that it was like a fan club or such, like you get on facebook for example

Rae

[Daffodil]

It's impossible to leave the group from what I can see.

Whilst setting up a new profile seems the only answer the problem in that is losing feedback and field reports etc.
Also it will be a nightmare replacing all the galleries etc as I don't have many of those pictures now..........

I'm sure that the majority of girls in his group were also tricked into joining like myself and Louise, thinking that it was like a fan club or such, like you get on facebook for example

Rae

I have very little sympathy. You should have done your homework 

[Taggart]

You do get access to your emails and can edit your profile. All uou can't do is remove yourself.
From what I remember of the prick it was more about exposure that anything else. Because his group was so well known 

Sadly, now rather well known for underhand tactics and activities.  While some clearly have little sympathy for you, no matter how much research or homework you do, you may not always get the full picture, and you learn from experiences as you go forward. Dont beat yourself up about it. Always be in control of your own destiny.

Lots of girls realise their errors, and re-start with a new profile but in the text make a mention of the fact they had xxx feedback on a previous one.  You use a little marketing waffle as part of your 're-invention'. Once punters realise who you are, you should have no problems.

[James999]

I'm sure that the majority of girls in his group were also tricked into joining like myself and Louise,

Greed & stupidity 

[Ali Katt]

It's impossible to leave the group from what I can see.

Whilst setting up a new profile seems the only answer the problem in that is losing feedback and field reports etc.
Also it will be a nightmare replacing all the galleries etc as I don't have many of those pictures now..........

I'm sure that the majority of girls in his group were also tricked into joining like myself and Louise, thinking that it was like a fan club or such, like you get on facebook for example

Rae

Download you galleries save them to your computer, replace them with fake pics, and say you offer incest and beast. That'll get it removed.

[Straife]

Greed & stupidity 

[berksboy]

It's impossible to leave the group from what I can see.

Whilst setting up a new profile seems the only answer the problem in that is losing feedback and field reports etc.
Also it will be a nightmare replacing all the galleries etc as I don't have many of those pictures now..........

I'm sure that the majority of girls in his group were also tricked into joining like myself and Louise, thinking that it was like a fan club or such, like you get on facebook for example


You say you cant replace pics ect so why not just pull them off AW like we do ?   
Rae

[DaveMugabe]

Download you galleries save them to your computer, replace them with fake pics, and say you offer incest and beast. That'll get it removed.

Good advice but I would go over the top, like offer roleplay involving rape, etc. also

[the pussy man]

Pro$$ies love emptive words,

what the fuck is an 'emptive' word????????????????

[Corus Boy]

Good advice but I would go over the top, like offer roleplay involving rape, etc. also

And have punters quoting that you offered these things for years to come? 

Remember the Internet never forgets!

[James999]

what the fuck is an 'emptive' word????????????????

A typo you idiot 

[ianvilla]

A typo you idiot 

 

[CoolTiger]

Here's a copy of jane's profile incase spanks removes it:
External Link/Members Only

Update...... Success for Jane.... Dr Spanks released her from his group, following her decision to out him in her profile.

[SirFrank]

Dr Spanks is a cunt and deserves to be fucking gutted (with a spoon) like a dead fish. At the very least one of girls should cut his balls off (with a spoon) and feed them to the snivelling piss poor excuse for a man

[jcdmj12]

Replace all your photos with granny porn photoshopped with Harriet Harman's head.

I have no idea if that will get it removed, but it would be very funny.

[jcdmj12]

Dr Spanks is a cunt and deserves to be fucking gutted (with a spoon) like a dead fish. At the very least one of girls should cut his balls off (with a spoon) and feed them to the snivelling piss poor excuse for a man

Amen to that. Hopefully he'll do it to some WG who has a meathead bouncer of a boyfriend. The kind of bloke who is long on artificial testosterone and short on anger management skills, and will leave the cunt eating through a straw for the next 5 years.