Seeking.com (London)

[Stickitin]

Cool cheers mate might give that line a try. Doesn’t the site have a rule that you can’t straight up ask for sex?

Yes hence I soften the question a bit so I’m not actually saying those words......

[Ron89]

Yes hence I soften the question a bit so I’m not actually saying those words......

I can’t imagine your way is any less rule breaking, thanks anyway bud

[Lfc4life]

Whos TOFTT: External Link/Members Only 

[Lfc4life]

Asking open questions has always worked for me, such as:

What brings you to the site?
What are you looking for?
What does your ideal situation entail?

This way, they can direct the conversation and tell you their particualr circumstances and what they're looking for without you just assuming that their main attraction is ££, though in many instances it's likely that it will be. Make the conversation feel as natural as possible. Just to note, I personally never go in with such questions. I'll try and lighten the mood first before eveentually branching the topic.

+1

Open questions help the conversation but I tend to mention 'fun' which is understood to mean bedroom antics. Also, I tend to move convo to WA after mentioning fun and look to discuss specifics. Once on WA can speak quite freely.

[Stickitin]

I can’t imagine your way is any less rule breaking, thanks anyway bud

I should also add that I’m only asking that question where I think there is more than a reasonable chance they will be up for it from their profile, so showing friends with benefits or NSA on their profile. Never had a problem with that approach tbh.

Not sure if seeking can read messages or not but I’m guessing they would probably only bother if the message gets reported, with my approach I think there is a very low chance I’d ever get reported. I’ve been pulled up for putting more direct language on my profile before, but never from my messages on there.

[ratedj]

I do all that and then go for the number which leads to them ghosting, maybe just some bad luck. Cheers for the advice mate

No problem. I should also note that I would initiate this approach once on Whatsapp.

[martini2429]

I can’t imagine your way is any less rule breaking, thanks anyway bud

Purely asking for sex on Seeking will get you banned and you will not be allowed back on there, remember it is not an Escort Site, Brandon does not want to appear as though he condones sex for sell, even though he does 

 

[Spencer Fobby]

Purely asking for sex on Seeking will get you banned and you will not be allowed back on there, remember it is not an Escort Site, Brandon does not want to appear as though he condones sex for sell, even though he does 

 

Because the site is American based and operates by US law, not UK law.

[stampjones]

Cool cheers mate might give that line a try. Doesn’t the site have a rule that you can’t straight up ask for sex?

Yeah dont do that or even mention ppm etc. Get them onto whatsapp asap and talk about it there.  You’ll generally have more success if you dont think of it like an escort situation. Chat for a bit then gradually ease in discussions about what the arrangement will be. Generally I’d say you talk to a lot of girls before you hit paydirt. Its really about playing the game until you eventually get one you like. Having said that, London seems pretty easy right now. Ive got more lined up than I know what to do with to be honest.

[what-a man]

Yeah dont do that or even mention ppm etc. Get them onto whatsapp asap and talk about it there.  You’ll generally have more success if you dont think of it like an escort situation. Chat for a bit then gradually ease in discussions about what the arrangement will be. Generally I’d say you talk to a lot of girls before you hit paydirt. Its really about playing the game until you eventually get one you like. Having said that, London seems pretty easy right now. Ive got more lined up than I know what to do with to be honest.

At realistic rates ? (Realistic for me being 150-200 for a couple of hours)

[Blacksealz]

200-300ppm is the norm now unfortunately in London

[stampjones]

At realistic rates ? (Realistic for me being 150-200 for a couple of hours)

Ive struggled to get 150 post lockdown. 200-250 has been the norm.

[bobgiggs]

At realistic rates ? (Realistic for me being 150-200 for a couple of hours)

I've only one time paid more than £200 (£300 - she was hot!) for a PPM, I saw her regularly for a few months and after the first meet brought it down to £200 - these type of PPMs for me are usually overnighters.

Anyone wanting more or for a few hours usually get rejected by me - plenty of girls on the site, also an overnighter gives a more genuine feel instead of the more professional escort type arrangement.

Unfortunately the prices seem to be going up in London because people are agreeing to pay that much - in the Northwest, I've had arrangements for 100-150 for an allnighter, really cute girls as well

[Lfc4life]

I too am getting quoted stupid ppms.. 500 initial and then work way to an allowance 

I have ended up matching/connecting with SB who are quite far in location (circa 1.5hrs drive); have others had similar connections? how did you go about with organising meets? Don't really fancy a long meet only to get to know each other..

[y101y]

Anyone on here actually providing an allowance to any of these girls?

[Spencer Fobby]

Anyone on here actually providing an allowance to any of these girls?

Yes, I am.  But only after a few ppm meets to establish that I want to see her regularly and she wants the same - and that I feel she can be trusted.  But that's the first time I've found a girl I'm happy to do that with and I've had almost 70 SBs so far...

But bear in mind that a lot of 'proper' SDs aren't UKP members and don't think in punting terms.  There are genuine SDs out there giving £2-10k per month to girls.  We aren't the only people using SA. 

[Bikerboy]

Anyone on here actually providing an allowance to any of these girls?

Yes

[dmitrybulgakov]

Yes, I am.  But only after a few ppm meets to establish that I want to see her regularly and she wants the same - and that I feel she can be trusted.  But that's the first time I've found a girl I'm happy to do that with and I've had almost 70 SBs so far...

But bear in mind that a lot of 'proper' SDs aren't UKP members and don't think in punting terms.  There are genuine SDs out there giving £2-10k per month to girls.  We aren't the only people using SA.

Is there any sub-topic on the forum which could give some pointers on a monthly allowance please?
For a weekly meet PPM could work out to be more expensive perhaps in my view.
thank you

[Bikerboy]

Is there any sub-topic on the forum which could give some pointers on a monthly allowance please?
For a weekly meet PPM could work out to be more expensive perhaps in my view.
thank you

Monthly allowances vary, £1000-£1500 is common.
Highest I heard of which I know was real was £2000 plus clothes food hotels and travel for the SB.
It’s got to be paid at the end of the month otherwise all the meets might not happen.

[DeanoDeano]

I’ve seen evidence of allowances that would make your eyes water, your arsehole contract and your wallet feel entirely inadequate.

There are very rich people out there, plus those who use seeking for entirely nefarious purposes - dealers, pimps, and the like.

[dmitrybulgakov]

Monthly allowances vary, £1000-£1500 is common.
Highest I heard of which I know was real was £2000 plus clothes food hotels and travel for the SB.
It’s got to be paid at the end of the month otherwise all the meets might not happen.

I take that is certainly not Primark or George clothes.

[dmitrybulgakov]

I take that is certainly not Primark or George clothes?.

[Bikerboy]

I take that is certainly not Primark or George clothes.

Nah

[fonzy_007]

I've only one time paid more than £200 (£300 - she was hot!) for a PPM, I saw her regularly for a few months and after the first meet brought it down to £200 - these type of PPMs for me are usually overnighters.

Anyone wanting more or for a few hours usually get rejected by me - plenty of girls on the site, also an overnighter gives a more genuine feel instead of the more professional escort type arrangement.

Unfortunately the prices seem to be going up in London because people are agreeing to pay that much - in the Northwest, I've had arrangements for 100-150 for an allnighter, really cute girls as well

Overnighters make it worth it, I remember some cute SP’s bidding around 300 to 400 on AW reverse bookings for overnights but that was a few years ago.

So what’s the averagevprice for an overnighter on SA? Assuming she agrees to staying all night

[massagepuntingfan]

Overnighters make it worth it, I remember some cute SP’s bidding around 300 to 400 on AW reverse bookings for overnights but that was a few years ago.

So what’s the averagevprice for an overnighter on SA? Assuming she agrees to staying all night

Personally I wouldn't recommend doing a sleepover until you know the girl and have established a good comfort level with each other, a night is a long time to spend with a girl you may not click with. I had an arrangement last year that moved into all nighters as the sex was so good, there was no increase in price and it seemed a very natural thing to do.

[londonroad]

Agree with this. Need a few sex meets with a new SB before moving to having a successful overnight.
Regarding allowances, whilst some SBs continue to try for large ppm’s is still plenty of girls, who if you treat them well and with respect, will agree to sensible allowances around 200. As with all negotiations need to be prepared to walk away if the SB holds out for high allowances. Also, in my experience, if the SB is solely driven by amount of the allowance is a high risk you will get an ‘escort’ type sexual experience, rather than a genuine seeking experience.

[dmitrybulgakov]

Agree with this. Need a few sex meets with a new SB before moving to having a successful overnight.
Regarding allowances, whilst some SBs continue to try for large ppm’s is still plenty of girls, who if you treat them well and with respect, will agree to sensible allowances around 200. As with all negotiations need to be prepared to walk away if the SB holds out for high allowances. Also, in my experience, if the SB is solely driven by amount of the allowance is a high risk you will get an ‘escort’ type sexual experience, rather than a genuine seeking experience.

Seen a SB socially 2 times, and I have clearly said that there will be something nice for you in the envelope. If she spends 4 hours or above, I intend to donate 200ish. But have not agreed or negotiated a fixed amount with her. My conversations have been around fine-dining, fun and something in the envelope at the end of the session.

[what-a man]

Agree with this. Need a few sex meets with a new SB before moving to having a successful overnight.
Regarding allowances, whilst some SBs continue to try for large ppm’s is still plenty of girls, who if you treat them well and with respect, will agree to sensible allowances around 200. As with all negotiations need to be prepared to walk away if the SB holds out for high allowances. Also, in my experience, if the SB is solely driven by amount of the allowance is a high risk you will get an ‘escort’ type sexual experience, rather than a genuine seeking experience.

Totally agree with this.

[bash_eer]

There is plenty out there at 200 for an overnighter even had offers for less than 200. Others at 300 which still good value for overnight.

[massage-freak]

I am seeing one SB for £100 for couple of hours in london. Finding someone really good is hard work like needle from the haystack. With Seeking now a days getting really shallow with more working girls, they just quote whatever comes in their mind.

[fonzy_007]

There is plenty out there at 200 for an overnighter even had offers for less than 200. Others at 300 which still good value for overnight.

I assume people are not sharing their contacts on here where they have found gems?

[Steve2]

I assume people are not sharing their contacts on here where they have found gems?

Correct 

[Spencer Fobby]

I assume people are not sharing their contacts on here where they have found gems?

Girls on AW are looking for business - they post their phone numbers or contact details for punters and would be happy with an enquiry from a punter they haven't yet met.
Girls on SA are not looking for 'business' - they are looking for a SD, and that often means 1 SD.  Some may be escorts, but the majority aren't.  The 'Diamonds' are usually girls who do not consider themselves escorts.  Therefore they would NOT be happy with an enquiry from a man that had not first approached them via their SA profile.

'Diamonds' are not usually seeing multiple men (maybe they have a few SDs but often they don't).  SDs are unlikely to share these profiles openly - especially while actively having an arrangement.

Seems a very hard thing for people to get their heads around, but you can't treat SA like AW.

[fonzy_007]

Girls on AW are looking for business - they post their phone numbers or contact details for punters and would be happy with an enquiry from a punter they haven't yet met.
Girls on SA are not looking for 'business' - they are looking for a SD, and that often means 1 SD.  Some may be escorts, but the majority aren't.  The 'Diamonds' are usually girls who do not consider themselves escorts.  Therefore they would NOT be happy with an enquiry from a man that had not first approached them via their SA profile.

'Diamonds' are not usually seeing multiple men (maybe they have a few SDs but often they don't).  SDs are unlikely to share these profiles openly - especially while actively having an arrangement.

Seems a very hard thing for people to get their heads around, but you can't treat SA like AW.

I wouldn’t expect phone numbers but I was thinking profile link, which is public anyway I think. I agree it would be disastrous if someone said to a girl they contacted them because of a recommendation through UKP. I personally wouldn’t do that, I would treat it like just coming across the profile and making contact and see if my charms worked (or not) in a non AW way. Anyway thanks for the replies and guidance.

[y101y]

If we’re playing along with this notion that the “majority” of girls on seeking aren’t escorts/prostitutes/women who provide intimate services for money - however you want to describe it - then why are we even discussing it on this site, which is about reviews of prostitutes?

[Spencer Fobby]

If we’re playing along with this notion that the “majority” of girls on seeking aren’t escorts/prostitutes/women who provide intimate services for money - however you want to describe it - then why are we even discussing it on this site, which is about reviews of prostitutes?

A very good point. 
It was a private sub thread at one stage - and that was an appropriate way to deal with things.  Since the new admins decided to allow open threads, the natural response on a punting review site is to treat it as a punting alternative.  The reality is much more complex and nuanced and while there are certainly logical reasons to consider it 'sex for cash', it really is such a different beast.
Personally I think the open threads are a bad idea for precisely this reason.

[what-a man]

Yeah I think its a bad idea to leave this thread open

[90125]

A very good point. 
It was a private sub thread at one stage - and that was an appropriate way to deal with things.  Since the new admins decided to allow open threads, the natural response on a punting review site is to treat it as a punting alternative.  The reality is much more complex and nuanced and while there are certainly logical reasons to consider it 'sex for cash', it really is such a different beast.
Personally I think the open threads are a bad idea for precisely this reason.

Oldadmin introduced the rule change allowing SA posts outside of the restricted Topic.

[xyfek]

Being able to discuss Seeking on here is, of course, the Admin's call. People can call it what they want, but it's still a form of punting. As far as I'm aware you can't get access to the restricted thread anymore, so it's natural that those with an interest will discuss it outside if they can.

As a GFE type of punter, I've been flirting with the idea of finding a SB for a while now. What's most off-putting is the lack of reviews, and also the time it seems to take to find a suitable girl. In this respect, being able to read other's experiences, views and advice is most invaluable.

[Jardent6]

Being able to discuss Seeking on here is, of course, the Admin's call. People can call it what they want, but it's still a form of punting. As far as I'm aware you can't get access to the restricted thread anymore, so it's natural that those with an interest will discuss it outside if they can.

As a GFE type of punter, I've been flirting with the idea of finding a SB for a while now. What's most off-putting is the lack of reviews, and also the time it seems to take to find a suitable girl. In this respect, being able to read other's experiences, views and advice is most invaluable.

+1

[bash_eer]

External Link/Members Only - Sashaxxox (London)

Wants 200 but apparently only offering oral to start with.

Did anyone actually meet her she has been messaging me and may have an opening to see and as there has been a bit of interest from other members on here will this be TOFT.

[Lush1pot]

I managed to get a overnight meet with a 19 year old for £150 last year however had met her for a meet and greet before. I appreciate this is probably very rare.

[JAYZ]

Yeah I think its a bad idea to leave this thread open

I understand the argument, but there has been some really good advice on this thread regarding connecting better with the women on SA and I am grateful for that.

[Lfc4life]

I understand the argument, but there has been some really good advice on this thread regarding connecting better with the women on SA and I am grateful for that.

+1

Having recently signed up to SA.. this thread has definitely been insightful, for which I am quite grateful.

[y101y]

By asking the question I wasn’t necessarily suggesting the thread should be closed or the topic banned. Just find it funny that this is a punting site but some people are convincing themselves that seeking is fundamentally a “dating” site with a few working girls that have slipped in, and therefore not giving out much useful info on the women themselves.

I suppose if people are still getting use out of the vague descriptions of successes/failures, then fair enough.

[stampjones]

By asking the question I wasn’t necessarily suggesting the thread should be closed or the topic banned. Just find it funny that this is a punting site but some people are convincing themselves that seeking is fundamentally a “dating” site with a few working girls that have slipped in, and therefore not giving out much useful info on the women themselves.

I suppose if people are still getting use out of the vague descriptions of successes/failures, then fair enough.

Dont think anyone thinks its a dating site. Some of us do occasionally try and give advice about how to approach it for the best results but there always some closed minded pedants who want to have stupid strawman arguments then complain about their lack of success on there. I’ll think you’ll find no-one gives a shit

[Sparta Prada]

By asking the question I wasn’t necessarily suggesting the thread should be closed or the topic banned. Just find it funny that this is a punting site but some people are convincing themselves that seeking is fundamentally a “dating” site with a few working girls that have slipped in, and therefore not giving out much useful info on the women themselves.

I suppose if people are still getting use out of the vague descriptions of successes/failures, then fair enough.

All of the guys on the closed thread know Seeking is another avenue for paid sex, which is natural as all us guys found UKP for tips and reviews on paid sex. However I would not be surprised if some SDs - outside of UKP - do treat Seeking as a dating site either through their own naivety or haven’t seen any of the increasing media surrounding sugar daddy sites.

[Lone-punter]

External Link/Members Only - Sashaxxox (London)

Wants 200 but apparently only offering oral to start with.

Did anyone actually meet her she has been messaging me and may have an opening to see and as there has been a bit of interest from other members on here will this be TOFT.

Met her couple of weeks ago at a ppm less than what is quoted above. Asian or Middle Eastern girl, protecting 'virginity' for her future husband, hence oral only. Good looking but a bit chubby, saggy tits, perhaps owing to toll they are paying in protecting virginity, smoker's breath, and poor oral skills. Did not swallow but allowed facial. She's been asking for next meet but I am not interested.

Her new profile is External Link/Members Only

[bash_eer]

Met her couple of weeks ago at a ppm less than what is quoted above. Asian or Middle Eastern girl, protecting 'virginity' for her future husband, hence oral only. Good looking but a bit chubby, saggy tits, perhaps owing to toll they are paying in protecting virginity, smoker's breath, and poor oral skills. Did not swallow but allowed facial. She's been asking for next meet but I am not interested.

Her new profile is External Link/Members Only

She is Pakistani,  I gave her miss I was also quoted less oral only but she said would offer sex in future meets and from my chat with her she said she not a virgin and done the deed with more than one of her boyfriends before.

[magnetico]

Monthly allowances vary, £1000-£1500 is common.

How many SDs do they have at the same time?