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Simplysimon

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See they are saying no further parties on their AW page , wonder if it is to do with the police raid on a pop up "brothel" yesterday

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Davido0007

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See they are saying no further parties on their AW page , wonder if it is to do with the police raid on a pop up "brothel" yesterday

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Yes.

vt

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Oh fuck! You would like to think the Cambs Police have got better things to do than break up a bit of consensual fun!!  :rolleyes:

How was anyone being trafficked or coerced there with most of the girls being UK porn actresses? And there certainly wasn't anyone underage!!  :wacko:

« Last Edit: June 15, 2017, 11:35:06 pm by vt »

Simplysimon

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Obviously an easy nick for the old bill as more than one girl was working in the apartment then = a brothel to the letter of the law.
Notice there are 18 witnesses they found there so that's the possibility of a few guys being outed .

The police really are a bunch of arseholes , they obviously knew it was a sex party and decided to make an easy arrest to appease a few nosey dogooders instead of catching the Romanian pimps who operate in the same area


Offline TonyD

Obviously an easy nick for the old bill as more than one girl was working in the apartment then = a brothel to the letter of the law.
Notice there are 18 witnesses they found there so that's the possibility of a few guys being outed .

The police really are a bunch of arseholes , they obviously knew it was a sex party and decided to make an easy arrest to appease a few nosey dogooders instead of catching the Romanian pimps who operate in the same area

fuckin typical of our must be pc old bill...wonder if they realise who pays their wages...uk citizens or serge the pimp?

Online Watts.E.Dunn

Say's in the old evening news rag there were 19 people there!

Must have been a party!

A coitus interruptus one on a large scale!

Offline camus

Have been to LMP parties before and this has got me thinking what the best way to deal with this situation would be. As a punter would you have committed an offence in attending and what would you say to the police if they questioned why you were there?

Davido0007

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Have been to LMP parties before and this has got me thinking what the best way to deal with this situation would be. As a punter would you have committed an offence in attending and what would you say to the police if they questioned why you were there?

To attend a sex party.

Offline itk

Doubt the happy one who was formerly a member here isn't so happy anymore  :lol:

vt

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Have been to LMP parties before and this has got me thinking what the best way to deal with this situation would be. As a punter would you have committed an offence in attending and what would you say to the police if they questioned why you were there?

No offence committed by a punter attending a party unless the girls were trafficked or forced to work there which they are patently not at the well-known party venues. By your attire or lack of, I think they will probably guess why you were there!  :hi:

It seems the Police tried to put the fear of God into the Cambridge partygoers by saying they are now witnesses, but I don't suppose they could tell the Police what they didn't already know!  :rolleyes:

You would have to be extremely unlucky to get caught up in a Police raid, but if it were to happen, the advice given previously is to provide them with your real name & address and not much else and they'll likely let you get dressed and go. Hopefully they would have sufficient evidence from other quarters than to need to call on a witness who doesn't seem to know anything useful anyway.


emmasexyescort

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but there is an offence,
the gentleman were attending!!! a brothel
this is illegal still,
its states they took 19 that means they took
all the clients and they will all be used as witnesses,
ive been in a bust and heard of plenty but never them
taking the men I as well,they must be desperate
to send down who ever it is that's running the show,
please be careful and clued up
and have heaps of happy healthy sex
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

vt

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but there is an offence,
the gentleman were attending!!! a brothel
this is illegal still,
its states they took 19 that means they took
all the clients and they will all be used as witnesses,
ive been in a bust and heard of plenty but never them
taking the men I as well,they must be desperate
to send down who ever it is that's running the show,
please be careful and clued up
and have heaps of happy healthy sex
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

If you're a prossie, you definitely need to brush up on the laws surrounding Prostitution!   :dash:

It is not yet an offence to 'attend' a brothel or sex party as a paying punter, as long as none of the girls were coerced or underage. It's not an offence for a girl to sell sex there either.  :rolleyes:

It's the pimping that's an offence, so 'Managing a Brothel' and 'Assisting in the Management of a Brothel' are the relevant offences, that is organising/running and profiting from it.  :hi:

It was reported previously that the pimp here would get his kit off and join in the party, so it is possible that the Plod had difficulty in identifying the management if everyone was naked, so needed to establish from all attendees whether they had any hand in the organising of the party. Though you would imagine that if they had done their homework properly they would already have identified the players and just a matter of catching them in the act.

The reporting doesn't say anything about arresting the punters, there were only 3 arrests, but just mentioned questioning (presumably onsite) as witnesses, but as I said previously, the plod should have got enough on the organiser before this bust, so as not to have to rely on unwilling, unhelpful witnesses who may know little or nothing.

The 16 questioned would also presumably include the girls working there, who may well have known a bit more about the set-up, but as they weren't committing any offence being there, they were also let go without arrest.


Offline uncle jessie

Pathetic really,everyone there would have been totally consenting so what harm was caused.They really should concentrating their efforts on the scumbags that traffic and pimp girls and those that visit the poor girls creating demand.Cant see the CPS allowing a prosecution to go ahead if everyone present sings off the same hymn sheet that they just paid towards the cost of premises,food,drink,condoms etc ?.But there again I expect the bastards have threatened to name and shame if they dont assist. Common sense and turning a blind eye would be the sensible and less costly option .

vt

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Pathetic really,everyone there would have been totally consenting so what harm was caused.They really should concentrating their efforts on the scumbags that traffic and pimp girls and those that visit the poor girls creating demand.Cant see the CPS allowing a prosecution to go ahead if everyone present sings off the same hymn sheet that they just paid towards the cost of premises,food,drink,condoms etc ?.But there again I expect the bastards have threatened to name and shame if they dont assist. Common sense and turning a blind eye would be the sensible and less costly option .

Surely the arrested suspects mobile phones would have been seized and there would be sufficient evidence on them for whatever charges they're hoping to pin on them.

If they're relying on punters to finger the organiser, they wouldn't have conducted a very good preliminary investigation.

Airforceone

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Different police forces have differing views on how to deal with a brothel.
A brothel is where any premises, including a private flat or massage parlour, which is used by more than one worker (either male or female) for prostitution.
Suffolk police have said that if two girls work in the same place and it's for safety to work from the same premises then they will not prosecute.
Their main aim is to make sure no girl is trafficked or forced into sex for money and others are profiting from this.

And I agree with VT that if you are a prossie then you should know the law!!!

Offline Students Notebook

I understand from at least 2 prozzies in Colchester, working in flats where more than 1 girl  works, that the police have been to see them to ascertain that they are (A) over the age of consent and (B) not trafficked and (C) happy in their work.

They make bookings and turn up, 2 officers,  one  male and another female.

Coffee and biscuits.

Once they have satisfied themselves, they withdraw !!!

S.N.


vt

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I understand from at least 2 prozzies in Colchester, working in flats where more than 1 girl  works, that the police have been to see them to ascertain that they are (A) over the age of consent and (B) not trafficked and (C) happy in their work.

They make bookings and turn up, 2 officers,  one  male and another female.

Coffee and biscuits.

Once they have satisfied themselves, they withdraw !!!

S.N.

Sounds like Essex Police are a bit more pragmatic than in Cambs.

Surely it's better to have willing, happy girls servicing the demand than to allow a vacuum for ruthless traffickers and pimps to inhabit.

vt

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Suffolk police have said that if two girls work in the same place and it's for safety to work from the same premises then they will not prosecute.


It seems Suffolk Police are being sensible too then, but I suppose they do have the recent memory of the Suffolk Strangler Steve Wright who murdered those street girls in Ipswich.

Better for girls to work more safely in a flat in pairs than roaming the streets alone.  :thumbsup:

Offline smiths

but there is an offence,
the gentleman were attending!!! a brothel
this is illegal still,
its states they took 19 that means they took
all the clients and they will all be used as witnesses,
ive been in a bust and heard of plenty but never them
taking the men I as well,they must be desperate
to send down who ever it is that's running the show,
please be careful and clued up
and have heaps of happy healthy sex
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

At learn the law before posting shit. :rolleyes: Unless any of the WGs were proved to be underage and/or being coerced the punters haven't broken any laws as its legal to punt in a brothel. The only people breaking the law are the pimp and anyone that actively helps them run the outfit, NOT the WGs as long as all they do is punt.

Offline Students Notebook

Sounds like Essex Police are a bit more pragmatic than in Cambs.

Surely it's better to have willing, happy girls servicing the demand than to allow a vacuum for ruthless traffickers and pimps to inhabit.

I had a close call in Cambridge. A couple of years ago the police raided a brothel in Cromwell Road.

S.N.

vt

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I had a close call in Cambridge. A couple of years ago the police raided a brothel in Cromwell Road.

S.N.

Were you there at the time? What happened?  :unknown:

Offline Sedition

Hmmm this is Cambridge, a somewhat prudish little fen town sometimes...I wonder if any precious students were attending or maybe had been at previous parties.
Not unknown for the Uni to poke its nose into matters it disapproves of.


Offline cambsguy

Surely by paying to attend a party that is all you are doing so no offence there.

I did hear that one of the guests however was guess what... a copper. Could be embarrassing at the canteen

Offline GreyDave

 :hi:  You would think with all the crap going on in the UK the Police would have more important things to sort out :unknown:

There is a saying amongst some of the lads I know who have been behind the door, two English words which do not go together...

Police and intelligence.....They always have to be informed looks like this time they just used Awank.com  :( :(

vt

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Surely by paying to attend a party that is all you are doing so no offence there.

I did hear that one of the guests however was guess what... a copper. Could be embarrassing at the canteen

That's a bit of an own goal!  :sarcastic:

Unless he was the plant that was supposed to relay the venue info back to station...but got carried away in the moment once the girls started stripping down and sucking him off...you know what girls are like with a man in uniform!  :lol:

bigmanbigman

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In a nut shell
Their main aim is to make sure no girl is trafficked or forced into sex for money and others are profiting from this.

Offline TonyD

wonder how much time was wasted on this in research etc, how may officers involved on the day? for the poor stretched police forces...a blind man could see the girls are of free choice by spending 30 mins going through all their twitters...yet sergi is free to spread his operations....ffs only in Britain  :hi:

vt

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In a nut shell
Their main aim is to make sure no girl is trafficked or forced into sex for money and others are profiting from this.

So why are they wasting valuable resources on busting this party which obviously was none of those things and a bit of research would have told them so?!?   :rolleyes:

If they were expecting to deal with 19 attendees, they must have sent dozens of officers there, what a fucking waste of time & money!

I've heard from a reliable source that the party girls were giving the Police shit about it being bloody obvious they were there of their own free will.

Meanwhile Sergei or Dumitru may well be peddling their misery by shifting his skanks all around the County right under their noses!  :dash:

Offline bigpoppapomp

I can only echo the general sentiment on here that it's a nonsense that this party should be targeted yet, without doubt, at least 2-4 ee girls will have been shipped into Cambridge for a 1 or 2 day stint on their forced tour of the UK, all police need to do is look at AW to see where the real problem lies and, spoiler alert, it isn't with parties with established porn stars and escorts.

Offline TonyD

like when there is a minor car bump 4 cars appear 8 officers stand around and chew the fat...burglary or illegal gypsy camp....oh sorry we cant respond to that........ :dash:

Offline uncle jessie

like when there is a minor car bump 4 cars appear 8 officers stand around and chew the fat...burglary or illegal gypsy camp....oh sorry we cant respond to that........ :dash:

Thats why when there is an RTA,there are police cars on the way from all directions,every one of them driving like fucking idiots because they know the first couple of cars on scene can fuck about for hours doing pretty much nothing apart from causing gridlock  :angry:


TheRuiner

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I know that the uni holds a hell of a lot of power in that town, own a great deal of it and have power in everything from venues being granted late licences to blocking even a strip club from opening in the vicinity.
I think those in a position of power are using it for their own prudish agendas and unfortunately it's law abiding citizens being shafted.
One of those articles quoted a rozzer as proudly announcing sixty-odd service providers had been questioned. How bloody ridiculous! Hours of manpower questioning citizens on the off-chance they're involved in crime. Swap "sex worker" for "mechanic/accountant/astronaut/"  and there'd be outrage.
Swap "19 men attending sex party held for questioning" for "19 men attending darts match" and apply the same logic; That those working in the venue theyre attending are say, suspected of working illegally. You can imagine the public reaction.
But the police play to the publics ignorance on the legalities of sex work.
It's like the whole sending letters to the homes of those suspected of kerb-crawling. Totally unproven yet they go ahead and action something that at best could cause embarrassment and at worst end a marriage, destroy a family.
They fully take advantage of the stigma and misinformation surrounding the procurement of sex. And for what? Statistics. Meanwhile old ladies harassed in their own homes of victims of burglary get what exactly? A bloody crime number if they're lucky.
Bag 'o shite!

vt

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like when there is a minor car bump 4 cars appear 8 officers stand around and chew the fat...burglary or illegal gypsy camp....oh sorry we cant respond to that........ :dash:

To deal with real criminals, like arresting prolific burglars, violent pimps or tackling raucous gipsy/traveller convoys an officer might get hurt, busting up a party with a bunch of naked businessmen seems far safer.


Offline TonyD

All you vice coppers reading this hang your head in shame......

WHY not nick one of your own? the pimps Divine...millions they have made and you do NOWT!! does the home secretary know? or care?

TrevorN

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All you vice coppers reading this hang your head in shame......

WHY not nick one of your own? the pimps Divine...millions they have made and you do NOWT!! does the home secretary know? or care?

Apparently THEY WERE raided few years ago . The other places in their umbrella outfit . But YES the Divines are untouchable .

Because the MK rozzas have free sucks and fucks .

Offline smiths

Apparently THEY WERE raided few years ago . The other places in their umbrella outfit . But YES the Divines are untouchable .

Because the MK rozzas have free sucks and fucks .

Yes 2 of their brothels were raided in Milton Keynes, very soon afterwards one at least was back open and has been ever since. The male Divine pimp posted many times he is ex old bill, I assume he deals in backhanders. And it is certainly the case as many WGs have told me over the years that some old bill including senior officers use brothels for free sex. That wont stop the pimps getting done if a decision is made to raid and nick though especially under POCA which is who raided those 2 brothels. The Divines must have powerful support at a senior level, again this is no guarantee of future support though, it could all come crashing down on them at any moment, if smart they have sorted an escape route out just in case and filtered money abroad. They own a number of legit businesses now to launder cash through.

bigmanbigman

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Its plod scare tactics raid same party twice or thrice times then their finished
Too much hanging over punters and organising people just topples it all .

TrevorN

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My question is can't these establishments/parties who do get raided say on there day in court  " Why one rule for us and another for Divine "



Surely some thing can be done ??


bigmanbigman

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Would you toss up a brothel's
Manager on your police record or

Put up and shut up you parties
Plod all  over  scare tactics.

Offline smiths

My question is can't these establishments/parties who do get raided say on there day in court  " Why one rule for us and another for Divine "



Surely some thing can be done ??

They can say it, doesn't mean the Judge will be interested, at that stage that's just the accused spouting off in the dock, unless of course they have previously done a deal with the CPS and police to grass in the hope of a lesser sentence.

Offline Chorley

I was considering going to this.  :scare:

Thank fuck fate intervened and I was unable to withdraw cash due to an error with my bank account.

I think theres been a massive crackdown on brothels since somebody found that an Air b and b flat was being used by a few WG's, which was then plastered all over the local rag :dash:

Offline anglian

Cambridgeshire police have an anti-slavery unit. My guess is they were interested in whether any girls were trafficked. Also, the local paper has been highlighting complaints by locals of pop up brothels in Cambridge, so there was pressure for the police to act.

Offline TonyD

Cambridgeshire police have an anti-slavery unit. My guess is they were interested in whether any girls were trafficked. Also, the local paper has been highlighting complaints by locals of pop up brothels in Cambridge, so there was pressure for the police to act.

even inspector  clouseau could see straight away that they was independant british girls, by spending 5 mins on adultwork...if the useless fuckers want to do some good...nick the EE pimps, chinese pimps and the girls being sent round the country, they must be thick as fuck, or lazy or scared to nick a gang.

Offline yakamo

On a related subject, does anyone know how to get in contact with Summer, who was at several CP's, until she was felt to be too much of a handful?! Cheers!