Criminalise The Punter

[doc14]

Half caught a radio 5 subject earlier this morning talking about helping WG's etc, not their fault, trafficking. The do-gooders saying the best way is to prosecute the punter to protect the WG.
One person quoted said "if these men are prepared to walk into a parlour for sex then they wouldn't really care about the threat of prosecution" err excuse me, I would!

Would anyone else reconsider punting if there was a criminal charge brought against you?

[StevenS]

If it became criminalised then I would stop and see how things panned out. I'd certainly actively avoid anything that would constitute a brothel and IF I ever punted, it would be an indie in own home with no other WG on the premises.

Howere you ask if I would stop if a criminal charge was bought against me. Absolutely I would stop. Mainly due to the cost of the inevitable divorce and maintainence would leave me skint.

[smiths]

Half caught a radio 5 subject earlier this morning talking about helping WG's etc, not their fault, trafficking. The do-gooders saying the best way is to prosecute the punter to protect the WG.
One person quoted said "if these men are prepared to walk into a parlour for sex then they wouldn't really care about the threat of prosecution" err excuse me, I would!

Would anyone else reconsider punting if there was a criminal charge brought against you?

I would re-consider punting in brothels which i like doing at present when i punt at parties and parlours on ocassion. My logic tells me brothels will be very easy targets for the police to nick punters in, though they are all illegal as it is of course yet allowed to operate, some for years in some areas if the police allow them to.

My logic also tells me the police havent the resources and in some areas the interest in nicking punters punting with so called Indies off-street.

[pierrot]

Did you hear the prossie they had on, she must in the space of five minutes managed to reinforce every possible stereotype about working girls possible, from being abused as a kid to now being forced to work because she has brain cancer.

[Daffodil]

Half caught a radio 5 subject earlier this morning talking about helping WG's etc, not their fault, trafficking. The do-gooders saying the best way is to prosecute the punter to protect the WG.
One person quoted said "if these men are prepared to walk into a parlour for sex then they wouldn't really care about the threat of prosecution" err excuse me, I would!

Would anyone else reconsider punting if there was a criminal charge brought against you?

Seems to be a hot topic at the moment. Yes, if it was criminalised I would likely stop.

[Captain Caveman]

It's in the news because it's being debated in the Commons today.

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=41236.25

Not much chance of it passing this time but that might change if there's a Labour govt after the general election.

[milfwklover]

It would probably stop some of my cheaper punts(Hungarians round my way), in places where more than one girl works in, but I'd still take the risk to see an indie.

Can't see how they could do me if there was a raid on an indie; I could easily be a fuckbuddy/cheap shag.

Don't know what right they have anyway to tell a woman what they can or can't do with their bodies. There's a reason why it's the oldest profession.

[squeezebox]

If it was criminalised, then this forum and its review system would be even more important to the punter. I'm sure AW would still exist too.

So in that respect, I would continue.

[Andre 3000]

A great article on this today in the Guardian

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This week, the tide turned against attempts to attack sex workers by criminalising their clients. An amendment by the Labour MP Fiona Mactaggart to the modern slavery bill (based on Swedish prostitution law) was dropped, despite cross-party support.

This came after a plea from sex workers that mobilised hundreds of individuals and organisations, including the Hampshire Women’s Institute, Women Against Rape, the Royal College of Nursing, church groups, trade unionists, academics, lawyers and anti-racist and anti-poverty campaigners, to write letters urging MPs to oppose the legislation.

The English Collective of Prostitutes argued that criminalising clients would undermine women’s safety, drive prostitution further underground and sabotage sex workers’ efforts to keep safe by displacing us to remote areas.

Others questioned a crackdown on people who are trying to survive in the face of austerity policies which have increased poverty and therefore prostitution.

LBGTQ groups called for an end to this “last vestige of Victorian moralism”, asking why some feminists had allied themselves with evangelical Christians who oppose gay marriage, sex outside marriage and abortion...

[leedstony]

If this did come to pass it certainly wouldn't stop the majority of punters. The likelihood of police deciding to pursue punters would probably be something of a post code lottery, with certain Police and Crime Commissioners keener than others to push their police to be active on it.

I'd imagine that Vera Baird, a PCC in the North East would be one of the keenest.

[Neal69]

I'd imagine that Vera Baird, a PCC in the North East would be one of the keenest.

Never heard  of her but I bet she is a munter 

[punk]

If the worse comes to the worse, holiday in germany,thats where all the poor WGS will go if these crazy reds get there way.

[Neal69]

Just googled her and guess what

Correct

[webpunter]

And a gingerr

[Jimmyredcab]

Seems to be a hot topic at the moment. Yes, if it was criminalised I would likely stop.

Well I certainly wouldn't but then I am not cheating on a partner.   

Vote Labour and we will all be on the sex offenders register. 

[Boundless]

It would be a big shake up that's for sure.
I think it'll spell the end for AW and I'm not sure that I'd want to be advertising my activities quite so freely on UKP either.
As has been said, I imagine for me I hope that I'd be able to keep seeing my 2 or 3 regulars who work from home or a rented apartment.

[NIK]

Half caught a radio 5 subject earlier this morning talking about helping WG's etc, not their fault, trafficking. The do-gooders saying the best way is to prosecute the punter to protect the WG.
One person quoted said "if these men are prepared to walk into a parlour for sex then they wouldn't really care about the threat of prosecution" err excuse me, I would!

Would anyone else reconsider punting if there was a criminal charge brought against you?

FUCKING HELL,  HERE WE GO AGAIN!   

[webpunter]

Not so much of a worry for you - as you've notched up 500+
I'm trying to catch up which could be more of an issue
Can't see the police supporting it - as it will drive activities underground
They've got quite a clear view of most stuff going on
Wouldn't be surprised if the laws relating to shagging trafficked girls are tightened up
Which will be +ve

[Diehard]

I would still punt as I don't go to brothels anyway in case of a raid, once when I did go to a brothel literally 2 mins after I left and was in my car it was raided so that was my last brothel trip.

It is an unworkable law in respect of indies. Meet them at their hotel and unless the hotel staff contact the police it would be impossible to be done. A clever escort wouldn't see more than. 3 guys in a day so as not to attract suspicion.

All I would change is deactivate my aw profile and just book via phone, something I'm thinking of doing anyway as I suspect aw is monitored already due to number of illegal immigrants on there offering services.

As for sex parties, I don't see how they would be at risk. All the participants would have to do is be a bit more trusting with each other and ensure money is paid beforehand and ensure no large amounts of money on the premises.

Ultimately, if this stupid fluffy law ever comes to pass, all that will happen is the police will end up wasting time chasing their own tales. Unworkable nonsense.

[myothernameis]

If it was criminalised, then this forum and its review system would be even more important to the punter. I'm sure AW would still exist too.

So in that respect, I would continue.

If it became law, it will be publicised in the news papers in a big way, and think adult work, will be targeted by a major news paper

They might even tell, reader how to check for an escort who might work in your street, and simple as searching under postcode, and if you think your neighbour is an escort...contact the sun

Affectively on AW thus would mean all escorts will have to consider removing all or some of there pictures, as maybe there neighbours will recognize them, and if the escort is in a council property, she could be breaking her tenancy agreement

So here a lot at stake if this becomes law

[maxxblue]

I'm not sure why this post is still attracting comments about the punter being criminalised when the bill has been defeated in parliament:

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Prostitution becoming illegal isn't going to happen anytime soon.

[punk]

I'm not sure why this post is still attracting comments about the punter being criminalised when the bill has been defeated in parliament:

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Prostitution becoming illegal isn't going to happen anytime soon.

i thought this thread had died 3 days ago.

[maxxblue]

i thought this thread had died 3 days ago.

It should have, but apparently not.

[NIK]

I'm not sure why this post is still attracting comments about the punter being criminalised when the bill has been defeated in parliament:

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Prostitution becoming illegal isn't going to happen anytime soon.

Totally agree, but for some reason some alleged punters appear obsessed that it will! 

[punk]

May be they have something to hide?

[myothernameis]

I'm not sure why this post is still attracting comments about the punter being criminalised when the bill has been defeated in parliament:

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Prostitution becoming illegal isn't going to happen anytime soon.

I never even realized the bill had been defeated, but has the bill actually gone away, is it just sitting in someone draws, waiting to be pulled out next year after the general election

[Captain Caveman]

I never even realized the bill had been defeated, but has the bill actually gone away, is it just sitting in someone draws, waiting to be pulled out next year after the general election

It isn't the whole bill (on trafficking/modern slavery) that's been defeated - that is still going forward -  but the backbench attempt to amend it to criminalise punting failed.

If Labour gets in next year it is quite possible the proposal could come back - and have govt backing this time.

[Dani]

Yeah if Labour get in this will be one the first things they try to do.  They have too many feminazis that think they speak for all women and that we are victims who do not know our own minds so need protecting as apparently throughout our lives we have been forced to believe selling our bodies is something we have to do as we obviously have no common sense or the ability to decide for ourselves what we want to do with our own lives.

They just don't realise that not only will it be impossible to enforce they will also force it further underground therefor putting us at more risk and not helping us at all.  However that is ok in their minds as long as what they want happens so they can gloat over how charitable they are helping all those poor victims

Their grasp of reality is very skewed and they even have the gall to ignore what sex workers actually have to say as we are not allowed a voice at all as our voices are apparently skewed by men so we cant possibly be able to have a valid opinion

[punk]

is these one's?

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