A Mind of a WG Question

[AnthG]

This is a question for the WG members of the forum to answer. Or a punter if they can possibly think they know the reason why. It is kind of one of those questions I kind of know the answer to I think already, but am asking anyway incase I am wrong, and I am just curious what is said in response.

So if its a case of you didn't have any bookings for a day. And things were going through a dry patch. You were there sitting in the house twiddling your thumbs, bills to pay and waiting for the phone to ring eager to get going for a booking but its not coming.

What would you rather do and why

1. Have no Bookings, and basically just sitting alone at home watching TV all day.
or
2. Take a booking at a greatly reduced rate just to be making some money than none, and just to be doing something that day, and to possibly try and get some feedback and reputation from those people to thus in the long run up your business.

I ask this saying I kind of know what the answer will be, in that I bet every WG bar the small few would rather sit alone watching Netflix or even just Channel 5 all day than ever think of doing number 2. So I guess another question is, why not do number 2? Is it a saving face type thing. Is it a worry that this person may tell people they seen you for less so thus meaning nobody will ever book for the higher rate? Or another reason.

[vw]

In the real world would never do number 2 unless I was a drug addict and needed a fix. The fucker you do a cheap service for on a quiet day will want the same deal again and again causing  a breakdown in the business relationship.

[threechilliman]

I think some will and some won't - some WG's are prepared to discount and some are not.

I placed a night before RB for a £80/45min punt and got several responses. The best was from Angel Sam, who's rates are £80/£130 30min/1hr and basically she did me 45 mins at her half hour rate. She happened to have that slot available and it was a useful fill-in for her. Good business for her as it culminated in yesterdays MMMMMFFF at her place where each girl earned £260 for a fun-filled 2hrs and each guy paid £155 to fuck 3 women.

tcm

[SophieScott]

This is a question for the WG members of the forum to answer. Or a punter if they can possibly think they know the reason why. It is kind of one of those questions I kind of know the answer to I think already, but am asking anyway incase I am wrong, and I am just curious what is said in response.

So if its a case of you didn't have any bookings for a day. And things were going through a dry patch. You were there sitting in the house twiddling your thumbs, bills to pay and waiting for the phone to ring eager to get going for a booking but its not coming.

What would you rather do and why

1. Have no Bookings, and basically just sitting alone at home watching TV all day.
or
2. Take a booking at a greatly reduced rate just to be making some money than none, and just to be doing something that day, and to possibly try and get some feedback and reputation from those people to thus in the long run up your business.

I ask this saying I kind of know what the answer will be, in that I bet every WG bar the small few would rather sit alone watching Netflix or even just Channel 5 all day than ever think of doing number 2. So I guess another question is, why not do number 2? Is it a saving face type thing. Is it a worry that this person may tell people they seen you for less so thus meaning nobody will ever book for the higher rate? Or another reason.

I think the problem WG forum members are going to have with honestly answering this question is that there does seem to be a perception on here that girls who will give a discount are dumb, desperate, begging and/or have dusty phones.

What I will say is that, generally speaking, girls won't take massive reductions because most girls set their rates based partly on what they are comfortable with being paid for the services they are providing.   It really depends what you mean by 'greatly reduced'.   If you're talking taking £10 or £20 off, then that's a different thing.  Also girls do run special offers as you all know from time to time to boost their business and, in theory, hopefully gain more regular clients.   Myself and the WGs I know save money to get us through the quieter spells so we aren't literally in the situation of having a stack of bills and no bookings, the business being what it is it would be pretty silly not to have some kind of back up.

[escort charlotte]

I think the problem WG forum members are going to have with honestly answering this question is that there does seem to be a perception on here that girls who will give a discount are dumb, desperate, begging and/or have dusty phones.

What I will say is that, generally speaking, girls won't take massive reductions because most girls set their rates based partly on what they are comfortable with being paid for the services they are providing.   It really depends what you mean by 'greatly reduced'.   If you're talking taking £10 or £20 off, then that's a different thing.  Also girls do run special offers as you all know from time to time to boost their business and, in theory, hopefully gain more regular clients.   Myself and the WGs I know save money to get us through the quieter spells so we aren't literally in the situation of having a stack of bills and no bookings, the business being what it is it would be pretty silly not to have some kind of back up.

Agreed x

[Dani]

I think the problem WG forum members are going to have with honestly answering this question is that there does seem to be a perception on here that girls who will give a discount are dumb, desperate, begging and/or have dusty phones.

I would rather take a discount and get some money in than not tbh.  I am not one for sitting around twiddling my thumbs anyway as would just read but I would sooner earn something than nothing.  I don't care if some would see me as dumb, desperate or have a dusty phone.  If it is so quiet I am getting no work then I will offer a discount as to me it is rather dumb to sit there earning nothing when you can be earning something  I offer a small discount between the quieter hours of the day anyway (early mornings and late evenings are always the busiest times) and sometimes at those times of the year when it goes very quiet I would happily take a booking at x amount.  I actually have a couple of guys who are on disability and cant afford normal rates who have asked if I am very quiet would I contact them if I am willing to accept x amount.  Which I do as it is better to earn something rather than nothing.  Thankfully it doesn't happen too often but when it does I am not too proud to drop my rates

Each to their own though as I know some do think they will be seen as all of the above (mainly by other prossies not punters) if they do a discounted booking so would rather not do a sicount but to me that is cutting off my nose to spite my face.  I prefer to earn something over nothing or I have wasted a day.  I do have savings I could use to cover the quieter days but I see it as a wasted day if I have spent all day at my flat and not worked.

[Quesadilla]

Surely this is what reverse bookings are all about? An escort can make a bid on an RB without have to publish lower rates - the punter gets a great deal and the WG gets enough cash to make it worth her while without having to lose face.

[SophieScott]

I would rather take a discount and get some money in than not tbh.  I am not one for sitting around twiddling my thumbs anyway as would just read but I would sooner earn something than nothing.  I don't care if some would see me as dumb, desperate or have a dusty phone.  If it is so quiet I am getting no work then I will offer a discount as to me it is rather dumb to sit there earning nothing when you can be earning something  I offer a small discount between the quieter hours of the day anyway (early mornings and late evenings are always the busiest times) and sometimes at those times of the year when it goes very quiet I would happily take a booking at x amount.  I actually have a couple of guys who are on disability and cant afford normal rates who have asked if I am very quiet would I contact them if I am willing to accept x amount.  Which I do as it is better to earn something rather than nothing.  Thankfully it doesn't happen too often but when it does I am not too proud to drop my rates

Each to their own though as I know some do think they will be seen as all of the above (mainly by other prossies not punters) if they do a discounted booking so would rather not do a sicount but to me that is cutting off my nose to spite my face.  I prefer to earn something over nothing or I have wasted a day.  I do have savings I could use to cover the quieter days but I see it as a wasted day if I have spent all day at my flat and not worked.

Hey, I totally agree with you.....I wasn't saying girls wouldn't give a discount for fear of being seen as that, I was saying some girls might not want to admit to giving discounts for fear of retaliations of that. 

I'm the same as you, I'd rather knock £20 off and have almost my full rate if it's quiet than make nothing at all.  If it's a greatly reduced rate as Anth has said, for example half price or less, then no I wouldn't do that, because I wouldn't be comfortable working for that kind of money, and that would show in my service even if I did agree to it.

[SophieScott]

Surely this is what reverse bookings are all about? An escort can make a bid on an RB without have to publish lower rates - the punter gets a great deal and the WG gets enough cash to make it worth her while without having to lose face.

Yeah, I'd agree with that.

[Swansea lad]

Do you look at what other local girls are charging to set your rates?

I've never understood how a pretty size 10, 30 year old charges maybe 100 per hour and gives decent service and then a size 16, 52 year old charges 140 and gets away with it?

[Jimmyredcab]

Only "desperate" girls would take bookings at a greatly reduced rate.     

If a girl is asking £150 an hour it is reasonable to offer her £120 -------------- if you offer £80 an hour she will think you are taking the piss.   

[SophieScott]

Do you look at what other local girls are charging to set your rates?

I've never understood how a pretty size 10, 30 year old charges maybe 100 per hour and gives decent service and then a size 16, 52 year old charges 140 and gets away with it?

I can only speak for myself but yes, although perhaps not in the way you are saying.... I looked at what other girls in my area were charging and the services they were providing, worked out where I fitted in amongst all that and how much I was comfortable with being paid for doing this work, and set my rates based on those factors.

[AnthG]

If a girl is asking £150 an hour

If the girl is asking for £150 per hour. This is likely the exact reason she is sitting at home all day twiddling her thumbs waiting for bookings, with none arriving.

[SophieScott]

Only "desperate" girls would take bookings at a greatly reduced rate.     

I didn't say that Jimmy....I said that girls may not want to admit to taking reduced rates for fear of people thinking that. 

I said I'd knock £10 or £20 off but not go below a certain amount....which is basically the same as you said.  Sorry I don't know how to quote two separate posts.

[PLeisure]

I don't know how to quote two separate posts.

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[smiths]

If the girl is asking for £150 per hour. This is likely the exact reason she is sitting at home all day twiddling her thumbs waiting for bookings, with none arriving.

That depends on the WG of course and in some cases the area she is based in. Many WGs in London for example charge £150 an hour or more, its up to punters to decide what they are prepared to pay.

I punt according to what I am prepared to pay so those that charge too much in my view don't get my business, it would be great if WGs charged less but unlike some I live in the world of reality. One of the great things about punting is there are WGs in many price brackets, in London anyway.

[smiths]

Do you look at what other local girls are charging to set your rates?

I've never understood how a pretty size 10, 30 year old charges maybe 100 per hour and gives decent service and then a size 16, 52 year old charges 140 and gets away with it?

Its all very simple, other punters aren't you and view WGs differently to you so will and do pay £140 an hour for a 52 year old size 16 WG, she gets away with it because enough punters are prepared to pay it or she will have a dusty phone.

[Hawkwind71]

This is a fascinating thread and very pertinent to what I just investigated. I was checking out profiles and came across this WG with a one year AW account, only 33 fb, charges £120 hr, limited description, 2 photos and no interview so she could be any size, shape, height etc. I thought classic dusty phone but it also indicated, that she had checked in today.

I decided to email her and just ask why her profile was so limited and could she add more detail so I could decide if a meet would be good. She basically came back and said 90% of her work was by direct phone call from the number on her AW profile and they didn't use AW or the booking system as a follow up. She just used her AW profile to display her phone number !!!!!!!!!!!!!

So while others worry about a dusty phone, this WG provided limited profile and purportedly lived 90% off 'non AW' bookings.

Figure that one out if you can. If that is the way to do it, why don't they all do that and not worry about discounts etc

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[Hawkwind71]

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[Longlife]

To be fair whilst I use AW I usually book by telephoning and then don't put a booking through on the site. On a couple of occaisions I have been asked to put a booking through to confirm but this is very much the exception.

[smiths]

This is a fascinating thread and very pertinent to what I just investigated. I was checking out profiles and came across this WG with a one year AW account, only 33 fb, charges £120 hr, limited description, 2 photos and no interview so she could be any size, shape, height etc. I thought classic dusty phone but it also indicated, that she had checked in today.

I decided to email her and just ask why her profile was so limited and could she add more detail so I could decide if a meet would be good. She basically came back and said 90% of her work was by direct phone call from the number on her AW profile and they didn't use AW or the booking system as a follow up. She just used her AW profile to display her phone number !!!!!!!!!!!!!

So while others worry about a dusty phone, this WG provided limited profile and purportedly lived 90% off 'non AW' bookings.

Figure that one out if you can. If that is the way to do it, why don't they all do that and not worry about discounts etc

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Loads of WGs only or mainly worked off their phones that I have punted with off A/W for years. A/W is where they have their profile and Private Gallery and sell themselves but they decide on how they wish to take bookings and operate. The reason they don't all do that is because some WGs decide to work in a different way, taking only bookings through A/Ws poxy feedback system for example, a system that has more holes in it than a string vest in my experience and works directly against the interests of punters as proved on here where some punters have said they wouldn't give a bad WG negative feedback on their in case she gave the same back in return which could then put some other WGs off accepting their bookings, something that bad WGs and pimps are no doubt laughing their heads off about.

[Hawkwind71]

Loads of WGs only or mainly worked off their phones that I have punted with off A/W for years. A/W is where they have their profile and Private Gallery and sell themselves but they decide on how they wish to take bookings and operate. The reason they don't all do that is because some WGs decide to work in a different way, taking only bookings through A/Ws poxy feedback system for example, a system that has more holes in it than a string vest in my experience and works directly against the interests of punters as proved on here where some punters have said they wouldn't give a bad WG negative feedback on their in case she gave the same back in return which could then put some other WGs off accepting their bookings, something that bad WGs and pimps are no doubt laughing their heads off about.

There are more holes and pitfalls in this system than the proverbial Swiss Cheese. For the punter it is how to flush out the vaid from the not valid. The girl I checked also has no review on UKP. So its a no from me. But I wonder what her business could be like if she provided a full profile. We'll never know nor will she.

[two20]

I guess like any freelance work the rate incorporates some allowance for downtime.

[smiths]

There are more holes and pitfalls in this system than the proverbial Swiss Cheese. For the punter it is how to flush out the vaid from the not valid. The girl I checked also has no review on UKP. So its a no from me. But I wonder what her business could be like if she provided a full profile. We'll never know nor will she.

IF she is busy enough I imagine she couldnt care less.

[Hobbit]

Myself and the WGs I know save money to get us through the quieter spells so we aren't literally in the situation of having a stack of bills and no bookings, the business being what it is it would be pretty silly not to have some kind of back up.

Now I've heard it all. WG'S saving money.  You're kidding right? They only think in the short term, so I can't really imagine them saving vast amounts of money.

[Daffodil]

I'd say you're wrong Anth, more often than not it's option 2. Ask for discounts and ye shall see.

Many won't admit openly to it mind as they'll be worried everybody will expect a discount, all of the time.

Even the most popular prossies will go through quiet patches, but the bills will continue to accumulate.

[iPad3]

Only "desperate" girls would take bookings at a greatly reduced rate.     

If a girl is asking £150 an hour it is reasonable to offer her £120 -------------- if you offer £80 an hour she will think you are taking the piss.   

That my friend is typical london cabbie logic, I shall simply say "uber" and leave it at that

 

[SophieScott]

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Thank you kindly! 

[SophieScott]

Now I've heard it all. WG'S saving money.  You're kidding right? They only think in the short term, so I can't really imagine them saving vast amounts of money.

Some of us do, but yeah, from what I've heard and read you are right about many WGs. 

[Swansea lad]

I usually book by phone as I usually like to go short notice.  I take aw with a pinch of salt.  Some girls offer the world but don't deliver while other's dont say much but are really nice and put a lot of effort in.

[AnthG]

I'd say you're wrong Anth, more often than not it's option 2. Ask for discounts and ye shall see.

Many won't admit openly to it mind as they'll be worried everybody will expect a discount, all of the time.

Even the most popular prossies will go through quiet patches, but the bills will continue to accumulate.

To be honest I would love it if you are correct.

I get the feeling, it is maybe a case of if it is a case and you are correct on that, punters don't test it, so never find out.

For those punters who do it, it would be useful to know what they say, or how the go about doing it that they have found produces most success.

[Hobbit]

To be honest I would love it if you are correct.

I get the feeling, it is maybe a case of if it is a case and you are correct on that, punters don't test it, so never find out.

For those punters who do it, it would be useful to know what they say, or how the go about doing it that they have found produces most success.

The trouble is, that if you ask for a discount from a WG, they may say yes but in the long term they will probably put you on the backburner for future bookings regardless if you're a regular or not. That's how short term minded they are.

[pking_paul]

Do you look at what other local girls are charging to set your rates?

I've never understood how a pretty size 10, 30 year old charges maybe 100 per hour and gives decent service and then a size 16, 52 year old charges 140 and gets away with it?

Try finding a slim 50+ year old, especially one without an attitude as she's been on the game all her life!

So far this thread seems to ignore the part timers who have other regular incomes too? If its a bonus, I doubt if they cut a penny off their rates as it is supply and demand isn't it?

[bensonhedges20]

Some of us do, but yeah, from what I've heard and read you are right about many WGs. 

Can someone tell me what a quiet spell is? 3 punters a day?

I do not believe i would be anyones first punter at say 3pm on any given day of say a 9-5 or 9-9 escort.

Do wg's save? Nope, they waste it on boob jobs and holidays.instead of going twice a year they go 5-6x a year.

[Hawkwind71]

I usually book by phone as I usually like to go short notice.  I take aw with a pinch of salt.  Some girls offer the world but don't deliver while other's dont say much but are really nice and put a lot of effort in.

It is slowly dawning on me that a good chunk of WG's post a minimal profile with phone number and then conduct the whole  business by phone. So their profile is active but little if any fb. I would have considered these profiles fake before but according to one I spoke to, it works well and they prefer not to deal with AW.

Adds a whole new dimension.........

[Roth]

If the girl is asking for £150 per hour. This is likely the exact reason she is sitting at home all day twiddling her thumbs waiting for bookings, with none arriving.

A prossie has to be giving truly exceptional service to charge that! 

Anal, OWO, CIM and Swallow in my book for starters. 

[Jimmyredcab]

If the girl is asking for £150 per hour. This is likely the exact reason she is sitting at home all day twiddling her thumbs waiting for bookings, with none arriving.

Maybe where you live, in London £150 an hour is not that unusual.     

[FLYING BLUE]

I saw a (North East based) AW girl in Leeds recently - her rates were reduced from £75.00 to £50.00 for a 30 min booking.

I was happy to pay £50.00

I would not have paid the full rate of £75 (or even £65 for that matter) - I would have either looked elsewhere or simply not bothered.

Win Win as far as I'm concerned in this case.

Oddly enough, on her AW profile it states in big old letters - "my rates are set and non negotiable" - "Don't ask for a discount" 

[BrunetteBarbieBrooke]

Do you look at what other local girls are charging to set your rates?

I've never understood how a pretty size 10, 30 year old charges maybe 100 per hour and gives decent service and then a size 16, 52 year old charges 140 and gets away with it?

If you take away the service aspect of this, and base this purely on stats...I have to completely disagree with your comments. You are basically saying the latter does not deserve to charge what SHE thinks she is worth. Also every man has different flavours; so while you aren't prepared to pay £140 ph for someone with her stats; there are people out there who find that attractive and will pay it.

I really don't wish to create an argument here  I am just saying your comments were slightly degrading.

Brooke x

[BrunetteBarbieBrooke]

Do wg's save? Nope, they waste it on boob jobs and holidays.instead of going twice a year they go 5-6x a year.

This is a rather generic statement! What a WG or anyone for that matter spends their money on is of no business to us. And I know lots of WG's who save. Not all of us are the dippy, short term minded, plastic and materialistic women you seem to think we are. Myself included, some of us are educated, career minded and money savvy!

Although, yes I have actually managed to holiday twice this year  while still saving. I'm sure WG's are allowed a break too you know! 

[bensonhedges20]

Im not singling anyone out. Lots try to save but cant help dipping into the funds.

Many escorts believe this is good money and they believe they can continue earning it year on year without thinking about their age, competition locally etc.

My opinion is based on the idea of rates. The difference a £10-20 discount per hour or half hour can sway someone alot quicker than photos, better descriptions etc.

Many escorts dont do it, or do it then increase again. Had they kept it steady they can build up feedback , a regular client base as well as having many satisfied customers. I value repeat custom over new customers/escorts and i would imagine many could or would like to.

One flaw of many working girls is the inability to manage a schedule. Time and time again theres someone let down.

[Rod trotter]

Never got a discount and ive asked

Always worry the service will be shite as they will think your a piss taker no matter what they say

[Rod trotter]

Ive put it to the test

[winkywanky]

I think a lot of WG's (not all) just take it as a 'personal affront' being requested a discounted rate, however politely or reasonably they are asked.

Example: I asked a girl currently very popular on here whether she'd consider coming out to see me. She's based in London for incalls and I live just outside London, no more than 45mins from her stated location. On her interview page she states clearly that she's willing to travel for up to 1hr for her outcall rate.

When I told her where I live she baulked at the booking because I live - quote - 'very, very close to her' (ie in the same small town, almost the same street). I managed to convince her that there would be no problem seeing me, and that in the very unlikely event that I'd ever see her around, I would merely feign ignorance. She was then fine with that. All good then! 

Er, no...seeing as she must pay rent for her incalls in London (I didn't pitch it this way), I asked her very politely if she might consider seeing me at my house for her incall rate because I was so close to her. No hassle for her, no rent to pay, little or no taxi fare even if she didn't have a car or didn't fancy Shanks' pony. Also, at her convenience, day and time-wise.

She went through the fucking roof that I might even consider asking her to reduce her rate for me, and 'did I think she was cheap?' WTF?! Stupid bint.

[Hawkwind71]

This is the only industry that I know where asking for a discount is regarded as such an affront to the sellers person and gets such a backlash.

Anywhere else you would be politely told yes/no there are no discounts and business would continue.

In sex work its like unleashing the bats from hell and you are banned for life.

..... oh and the other, asking for something not on the likes list. 'Didn't you read and memorise my like list' Banned.

 

[Rod trotter]

Well i can confirm they do not like it

Ive just asked, the message was read and deleted no reply despite us getting on all good before hand, i asked for £40 for 30mins £10 cheaper than her advertised rate, she had no feedback and not reviewed on here so i explained i was taking a chance.

Silence now

[Hawkwind71]

Well i can confirm they do not like it

Ive just asked, the message was read and deleted no reply despite us getting on all good before hand, i asked for £40 for 30mins £10 cheaper than her advertised rate, she had no feedback and not reviewed on here so i explained i was taking a chance.

Silence now

Think you dodged the bullet there. Dusty phone may be on the cards. A polite no I don't do discounts would have secured your business.