WGs and drugs

[ravenous25]

From other punters I've spoken to over the years, it seems the general consensus is that quite a number of WGs take drugs of some description. I'm not into them at all and feel a bit uneasy being around those that do so does it bother you if the WG you're seeing takes them?

If not, how do you deal with it? Just blank it out your mind? Or try and find a WG that doesn't take anything????

[hendrix]

I'm having the same trouble while deciding which way to vote on the EU referendum. So many politicians are cocaine addicts on both sides of the argument.

[cueball]

Whether a lass takes drugs or not is not really my concern (smack head apart). I won't punt a junkie though.

Whether she takes drugs whilst I'm punting with her is a different thing altogether, I'd walk if she was off her head.

I'm not there to save her.

[ClarkeOfTheCourse]

If a girl tried to do drugs during the meet that would be a very awkward conversation. How they piss away their money in their spare time is entirely up to them, but if it affects their service or makes them unreliable then they soon get ditched.

[Sonny Crockett]

WGs who are on drugs are generally crap pro$$ies.

[Steely Dan]

I just ask the other kids in my class for advice.  Or maybe my teacher.  If they wont help, I join a forum and post bollocks.

[cueball]

I just ask the other kids in my class for advice.  Or maybe my teacher.  If they wont help, I join a forum and post bollocks.

I think that might just sum up the op nicely

[Marmalade]

From other punters I've spoken to over the years, it seems the general consensus is that quite a number of WGs take drugs of some description. I'm not into them at all and feel a bit uneasy being around those that do so does it bother you if the WG you're seeing takes them?

If not, how do you deal with it? Just blank it out your mind? Or try and find a WG that doesn't take anything????

You're not a punter. Just some shit-stirrer. WGs are not for you. Try Scalextrics.

[ClarkeOfTheCourse]

Just blank it out your mind?

She's probably doing the same during your meet.

Or try and find a WG that doesn't take anything????

Good luck with that. Maybe ask for blood and urine samples to be sent to you prior to the booking.

[Mr Sinister]

How they piss away their money

At times the transaction works the other way round with the dealer giving the wg samples for free sex.

[webpunter]

Have done the odd bit of bolivian mp with WGs.  Mostly abroad.  When feeling tired.  But i refuse to pay for it.  Some of the nice ones offer a bit for free when having a few lines themselves.  Although they know they'll most probably get their money back as its then a fucker to shoot your bolt.    Extra 1/2hr please     Kamagra [sachet] seems to be a good antidote to these effects

[ClarkeOfTheCourse]

At times the transaction works the other way round with the dealer giving the wg samples for free sex.

Sometimes this person is also their "landlord", and may also be getting paid in kind for the room.

[vw]

Used to be a bad boy and play wit naughty girls.  Now I am a good boy avoid the naughty party girls !

No different from the rest of the population ask your school mates the ratios will be similar, assuming you know ratios. 

[Corus Boy]

 

I just ask the other kids in my class for advice.  Or maybe my teacher.  If they wont help, I join a forum and post bollocks.

Brilliant!!!

[7x5]

It only takes one bad client to turn a WG onto drugs to numb the pain and the punter doesn't even have to be that much of a cunt to do it.

Security buddy or not, certain types of people will kick off no matter what and some even get off on the additional drama witnesses may bring. Kinda like how CCTV only stops the people who were never going to rob you anyway, but now people either don't care about being seen or worse, play up to it.

Most knuckle draggers will only say, shout or scream nasty things but even if they do get physically abusive, the damage could be done long before help arrives, if at all. Fortunately they are unlikely to be as callous as to twist someone's head off in the blink of an eye, preferring to bludgeon, scratch or strangle instead.

The job comes with risks and a WG should know, accept and make attempts to minimise those risks, but unless they like the cock and they are so good at it they shouldn't do it for free, they will be better served out of harms way. On a long enough timeline something bad is bound to happen eventually.

If you don't ever want to see a WG on drugs, don't be a as much of a cunt to send them there in the first place. But if you do find a WG is on drugs and there are some obvious problems because of it, it might not be your place to save them, but you can always walk, offer a bit of advice and hope they save themselves.

[vw]

It only takes one bad client to turn a WG onto drugs to numb the pain and the punter doesn't even have to be that much of a cunt to do it.

Security buddy or not, certain types of people will kick off no matter what and some even get off on the additional drama witnesses may bring. Kinda like how CCTV only stops the people who were never going to rob you anyway, but now people either don't care about being seen or worse, play up to it.

Most knuckle draggers will only say, shout or scream nasty things but even if they do get physically abusive, the damage could be done long before help arrives, if at all. Fortunately they are unlikely to be as callous as to twist someone's head off in the blink of an eye, preferring to bludgeon, scratch or strangle instead.

The job comes with risks and a WG should know, accept and make attempts to minimise those risks, but unless they like the cock and they are so good at it they shouldn't do it for free, they will be better served out of harms way. On a long enough timeline something bad is bound to happen eventually.

If you don't ever want to see a WG on drugs, don't be a as much of a cunt to send them there in the first place. But if you do find a WG is on drugs and there are some obvious problems because of it, it might not be your place to save them, but you can always walk, offer a bit of advice and hope they save themselves.

Yet more nonsensical stuff from you !

Have you managed to sleep yet ?

[AnthG]

It only takes one bad client to turn a WG onto drugs to numb the pain and the punter doesn't even have to be that much of a cunt to do it.

If you don't ever want to see a WG on drugs, don't be a as much of a cunt to send them there in the first place.

I do not think a WG taking Prozac prescribed by her GP is what this topic is referring to.

[7x5]

Yet more nonsensical stuff from you !

Have you managed to sleep yet ?

I'm sorry if my life experiences with WG's long before I became a punter went over your head, though if it is buried in the sand, it would be easy to see why. Very few WG's start out as low class, but circumstances can send them that way.

And yes, my sleep is getting a little better each night, though some nights are better than others. I had a raging boner the other day and nowhere to stick it  I have a few booking requests lined up with different WG's so I'm hoping everything pans out.

I do not think a WG taking Prozac prescribed by her GP is what this topic is referring to.

Neither was I...

[SamLP]

You're not a punter. Just some shit-stirrer. WGs are not for you. Try Scalextrics.

I'm always wary about those who ask these kind of questions, especially with only 6 posts to his name. Could be a journalist looking for a hot story to demonise punters attitudes towards WG's.

In my experience I've met many girls who smoked but haven't seen any evidence of any drug taking. Like the general public, there may be those who do take drugs but the vast majority don't so I disagree with the OP/journalist on this issue.

[Marmalade]

I'm always wary about those who ask these kind of questions, especially with only 6 posts to his name. Could be a journalist looking for a hot story to demonise punters attitudes towards WG's.

In my experience I've met many girls who smoked but haven't seen any evidence of any drug taking. Like the general public, there may be those who do take drugs but the vast majority don't so I disagree with the OP/journalist on this issue.

Very much so. There seems to be a rash of them every so often. If you put them into a journalistic context, the headlines would be another anti-prostitution sleaze story.

[Marmalade]

It only takes one bad client ...

I'm getting more and more suspicious of you, "7x5". You sound rather like an ex- social worker who used to post on here, scarred by his work with street workers. Your so-called 'vast experience as a punter' doesn't seem backed up by what you write. Please don't bother saying "I assure you . . . " blah blah blah. Most of the experienced punters on here are quite capable of judging for themselves rather than listening to bland assurances supposedly from on high.

[vw]

I'm getting more and more suspicious of you, "7x5". You sound rather like an ex- social worker who used to post on here, scarred by his work with street workers. Your so-called 'vast experience as a punter' doesn't seem backed up by what you write. Please don't bother saying "I assure you . . . " blah blah blah. Most of the experienced punters on here are quite capable of judging for themselves rather than listening to bland assurances supposedly from on high.

7x5 is a wrong-un has much anti-punter undertones to his posts, not quite punter hate but that could be masked by his condescending tone !

[7x5]

The benefit of the internet is anonymity, if you could be bothered to go after it. I'm not nor was I ever a social worker, but that doesn't mean I haven't had a significant number of life experiences that are relevant.

I really don't care what happens to me, but I do care what happens to others. I'm not anti-punter, but I am anti-abuse.

Perhaps ignorance really is bliss. I'll take a blue pill, please.

[Marmalade]

The benefit of the internet is anonymity
Perhaps ignorance really is bliss.

Three weeks ago in a review you wrote that it was your eighth punt. Not exactly very experienced then. There are people here who have had many hundreds of punts. People who have dated prossies in civvie relationships, and people who have studied academically and are familiar with many sides of the industry. The forum even has one or two long-term intelligent prossies who post more sensible stuff than you appear to. You have almost no standing to tell others to believe your opinions if you can't back them up. You're digging a trench and may find you're the only one in it.

[Donnie69]

I've known quite a few prossies who had either a bit of a drink or a drug problem.  I'm not talking crack or heroin here, well as far as I know.  A minor drink or drug problem doesn't interfere with life too much.

I would say most of those prossies were damn good, actually the best I ever knew.  They will become bad prossies if the drink or drugs take control, and it becomes a serious problem.

Don't forget many punters have drink and drug problems. 

[AnthG]

I'm sorry if my life experiences with WG's long before I became a punter went over your head, though if it is buried in the sand, it would be easy to see why. Very few WG's start out as low class, but circumstances can send them that way.

But aren't you talking about the chicken and the egg syndrome here. Some girls take drugs. They are very expensive. The only way they can afford to pay for them is to enter this job. So they do.

Other girls, as you say, will start this job. And then get access to drugs from other girls, punters, agency drivers etc and take them.

I think the sort of girl who starts this job would not be the sort to have never experienced, or at least been around somekind of recreational drugs somehere in her life.

Shy retiring bookworms don't suddenly become working girls. Its girls who generally go out on a friday and Saturday night and hit the town and get plastered who do.

I really don't care what happens to me, but I do care what happens to others. I'm not anti-punter, but I am anti-abuse.

It only takes one bad client to turn a WG onto drugs to numb the pain and the punter doesn't even have to be that much of a cunt to do it.

If you don't ever want to see a WG on drugs, don't be a as much of a cunt to send them there in the first place.

You seem to want to keep saying that. What evidence do you have of any working girl you have met, after seeing a scum bag client, opening up her vein with a needle full of heroin or whatever as a direct result?

Its not the sort of thing a girl will ever tell another punter. So how do you know this?

[vw]

Three weeks ago in a review you wrote that it was your eighth punt. Not exactly very experienced then. There are people here who have had many hundreds of punts. People who have dated prossies in civvie relationships, and people who have studied academically and are familiar with many sides of the industry. The forum even has one or two long-term intelligent prossies who post more sensible stuff than you appear to. You have almost no standing to tell others to believe your opinions if you can't back them up. You're digging a trench and may find you're the only one in it.

He only started in January to !

Whilst she is the first WG I've ever been with

[7x5]

Are you lot deliberately skipping over the parts where I say I'm new as a punter, but not new to prostitutes?

If you can't be arsed to reread, want me to spell it out again, or out myself with some specifics to satisfy your curiosity, there isn't much more I can add to the subject at this time.

[vw]

Are you lot deliberately skipping over the parts where I say I'm new as a punter, but not new to prostitutes?

If you can't be arsed to reread, want me to spell it out again, or out myself with some specifics to satisfy your curiosity, there isn't much more I can add to the subject at this time.

Guessing you were a rent boy ?

Or did you listen to mummy with the tv turned up, you do seem damaged whatever it is !  This happened to Henry Lee Lucas.   

[AnthG]

Are you lot deliberately skipping over the parts where I say I'm new as a punter, but not new to prostitutes?

If you can't be arsed to reread, want me to spell it out again, or out myself with some specifics to satisfy your curiosity, there isn't much more I can add to the subject at this time.

Yes there is, and that is, how did you know them? Where you an agency driver? A pimp? A social worker? A police officer? a nurse? or what exactly.

Or was a family member of yours a prostitute or what exactly?

[cueball]

I'm new as a punter, but not new to prostitutes

That'll be......

1) ex pimp

Or

2) ex prossie (male or female)

Or

3) some form of officialdom (social, plod, Jeremy kyle)

.... then?

Edit... ant beat me to it 

[7x5]

None of the above. I had a life less ordinary - my dad was their drug dealer.

WG's did everything from taking me shopping to going to the park. Well, everything except fucking me, though they probably fucked my dad.

As time with a bad punter took it's toll, you'd see them coming back with different injures, asking for different drugs and before you know it they have gone from the top to of their game to an emaciated wreck like something out of the walking dead. Not good, not good at all.

Not every punter will do that, most won't, but it only takes one to send them on a downward spiral and flush their life down the toilet forever and if they are on the game long enough, sooner or later that bad punter will find them and more will soon follow.

[cueball]

None of the above.

Are you sure you're not Jeremy Kyle?

I've noticed that you're never on here between 9:30 and 10:30 in the morning 

[vw]

None of the above. I had a life less ordinary - my dad was their drug dealer.

WG's did everything from taking me shopping to going to the park. Well, everything except fucking me, though they probably fucked my dad.

As time with a bad punter took it's toll, you'd see them coming back with different injures, asking for different drugs and before you know it they have gone from the top to of their game to an emaciated wreck like something out of the walking dead. Not good, not good at all.

Not every punter will do that, most won't, but it only takes one to send them on a downward spiral and flush their life down the toilet forever.

Probably your dads scummy drugs drove them to take risks, what a scum bag !

Probably gave them freebies to get them hooked and on the game knowing the MO of most dealers !

Apple doesn't fall far from the tree as they say. 

[cockneybstrd]

None of the above. I had a life less ordinary - my dad was their drug dealer.

WG's did everything from taking me shopping to going to the park. Well, everything except fucking me, though they probably fucked my dad.

As time with a bad punter took it's toll, you'd see them coming back with different injures, asking for different drugs and before you know it they have gone from the top to of their game to an emaciated wreck like something out of the walking dead. Not good, not good at all.

Not every punter will do that, most won't, but it only takes one to send them on a downward spiral and flush their life down the toilet forever and if they are on the game long enough, sooner or later that bad punter will find them and more will soon follow.

Perhaps your childhood experiences have clouded your views. Or perhaps they are slightly limited are those are the ones that you had experience with

I cant find the exact figures to hand at the moment but the amount of prossies that got into hard drugs after entering prosituiton compared to numbers that were snorting jacking before they got into it would be minuscule.

[Marmalade]

I've known quite a few prossies who had either a bit of a drink or a drug problem.  I'm not talking crack or heroin here, well as far as I know.  A minor drink or drug problem doesn't interfere with life too much.

I would say most of those prossies were damn good, actually the best I ever knew.  They will become bad prossies if the drink or drugs take control, and it becomes a serious problem.

Don't forget many punters have drink and drug problems.

Indeed. Also many people in general drink quite a bit but without it being a problem, or even have an occasional spliff or line of coke without it being a problem. No-one denies that drug addiction is or has been a factor behind street prostitution (but so has being a single parent). It's much rarer among indies and escorts, partly as you need to have your life together sufficiently to run a business of any kind.

It's one thing to slag off holier-than-thou prostitutes who claim no prossie ever takes drugs: it's another thing entirely for the pansy OP and his supporters to write not-so-subtle remarks to demonise the industry, prostitutes and punters alike. It smells like the police who would 'kindly warn' punters that 'all such girls were on drugs' or 'all of them were hiv'. Pure stupidity or pure scaremongering.

If you arrive at an incall and it looks like a drug den you have no obligation to stay. You have two legs than can be used to walk. You not obliged to "be around them" for fuck sake.

Schoolchildren should not be allowed to visit prostitutes, drive fast cars or visit casinos with their parents' credit cards. Unfortunately their parents haven't always managed to use NetNanny to stop them trying to post bullshit on certain threads.

[Marmalade]

Classic fallacy from anti-punter 7x5 even if he is being 'genuine.' His dad sold drugs to prostitutes, so obviously all those prostitutes took drugs. 

Rather like saying hey, all people that experience air travel sickness are air travellers therefore people who go abroad on holiday should travel by canoe cos if you travel by air you'll get sick and who wants to be on a dreamliner with everyone continually puking all over the place, even in business class, I mean you wouldn't feel comfortable with that would you. 

I bet Greggs have lots of fat customers. The counter assistants are often fatties too. I bet they don't know anything else. Too fucking fat to get into Starbucks or Pret a Manger. Food makes you fat. You only need one sausage roll and that's you. A rolly-polly for life. 

7x5, and the OP: you really shouldn't be punting mate, if you are. Get a fleshlight and pray to the angels until you're mature enough for the big wide world.

[7x5]

Blah blah blah

Err... no. One person having a problem does not mean they all do, but my anecdotal evidence suggests that a bad punter can drive WG's to drugs and another can push them to harder drugs.

I have had my own life experiences, made my own mistakes and I'm not some big naive kid wrapped in cotton wool spending daddies money. I've met my fair share of snakes on my own too. In fact, I'm quite content to be flat broke, because I appreciate what really matters.

I didn't start punting because I'm unable to get sex without paying for it, but it would be nice on occasion to get fucked instead of having some shy girl just lay there like a dead fish expecting me to do everything, especially when I have a new cock which I need to get used to.

I didn't join the forums to troll. I thought people could benefit from my experiences, good and bad, albeit mostly bad. I'm happy to stick around and have been known to appreciate a bit of banter from time to time, but I was foolish to think I would want to entertain a bunch of arse licking, piss drinking, silver tongued wankers.

[vw]

Err... no. One person having a problem does not mean they all do, but my anecdotal evidence suggests that a bad punter can drive WG's to drugs and another can push them to harder drugs.

Clueless Troll

[AnthG]

my dad was their drug dealer.

WG's did everything from taking me shopping to going to the park. Well, everything except fucking me, though they probably fucked my dad.

As time with a bad punter took it's toll, you'd see them coming back with different injures, asking for different drugs and before you know it they have gone from the top to of their game to an emaciated wreck like something out of the walking dead. Not good, not good at all.

Not every punter will do that, most won't, but it only takes one to send them on a downward spiral and flush their life down the toilet forever and if they are on the game long enough, sooner or later that bad punter will find them and more will soon follow.

I just want to possibly point this out.

Your father was these girls drug dealer. So prostitute comes along and says "I have had a nasty punter today". Your father gives her drugs saying these will pick you up.

Girl comes back and says "I have had a really nasty punter today". Your father gives the girl harder drugs to now cheer her up.

Girl comes back and says those last drugs you gave me were great. Your father gives her the harder drugs again, and again and again..... Then

before you know it they have gone from the top to of their game to an emaciated wreck like something out of the walking dead. Not good, not good at all."

And the people at fault and scumbag in this situation is .....the punters???

[7x5]

Clueless Troll

The only troll here is yourself. How does the Kool-Aid taste?

Another fallacy

That's not how it worked.

Girl has a bad punter, comes back, tries the same 'soft' drug and it didn't work for them anymore. Comes back for something harder. Then there is no turning back. Another bad punter comes along, they can't deal with it, so rinse and repeat. They go from high class to low class before they even know what hit them. Once they lose their confidence or sense of self worth they quickly become victims to other wankers, each more terrible than the last.

The odd thing is some of them were abused by their partners who sneaked their way into becoming pimps, yet they still fucked other people, still got beat up or manipulated, and still handed over a wad of cash instead of running away. Call me a fluffy if you will, but any partner worth their salt would crawl over broken glass to make ends meet so their OH wouldn't have to sell their body, unless that was what they really wanted to do.

I know my dad was no saint, heck the cunt spiked me on occasion 'so I would know what it was like', but I never became addicted, but weaker people do.

[cockneybstrd]

The only troll here is yourself. How does the Kool-Aid taste?

That's not how it worked.

Girl has a bad punter, comes back, tries the same 'soft' drug and it didn't work for them anymore. Comes back for something harder. Then there is no turning back. Another bad punter comes along, they can't deal with it, so rinse and repeat. They go from high class to low class before they even know what hit them. Once they lose their confidence or sense of self worth they quickly become victims to other wankers, each more terrible than the last.

The odd thing is some of them were abused by their partners who sneaked their way into becoming pimps, yet they still fucked other people, still got beat up or manipulated, and still handed over a wad of cash instead of running away.

I know my dad was no saint, heck the cunt spiked me on occasion 'so I would know what it was like', but I never became addicted, but weaker people do.

if my old man had spiked me on occasions i would have filled the cunt in. Your right your old man was no saint he was a manipulative cunt who abused you by spiking you.

I am very sorry for you that you were abused by your old man

[vw]

I know my dad was no saint, heck the cunt spiked me on occasion 'so I would know what it was like', but I never became addicted, but weaker people do.

Well must have affected you clearly.

Maybe the time away will do you good !  Bye